Why do some men feel so entitled (rape case) text messages might be upsetting to read?

[Anonymous]

So the WhatsApp messages below have been made public after Alex Hepburn was found guilty of rape today , these texts literally make me sick to my stomach to thing there is men out there that talk this way about women. Alex Hepburn and Joe Clarke are two cricket players from England. They come from very privileged backgrounds and are the fine example of spoiled entitled brats. Even more shocking Alex Hepburn has managed to get himself a girlfriend like how could any girl go out with someone like him. I’ve had to put the texts above because they weren’t posting in this and also (bird) is slang for girl.

Do do you think you are more likely to have a certain attitude towards women if you come from a privileged upper class background? How could anyone be so vile in messages to even say these things?

Vile

Disgusting

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+1 y

Get them blind means to get them drunk just incase people don’t understand the slang

[Jaysonava]

I know men who bring blind drunk women back home and I have no sympathy for the women. Because many of the women know exactly what they are doing and taunt men who don't treat them like trash calling civil and polite men "pussies" and "wimps".

I have also had a woman ask me to rape her and say that her ex boyfriend was "stronger" than me and a better person cause he was a "sociopath" and didn't take no for an answer.

So with regards to those types of women I have no empathy. They can dig their own graves.

Sorry to all the other women who get caught up in the mix and slip through the cracks.

[Jean-Marie_Céline]

That's just disgusting, and I say it as someone who comes from an advantaged background.
Theirs is a lack of morals, education and an indulging in constant depravation and degeneracy.

[Sara12356]

I had following this case from the start it’s absolutely revolting the way those two spoke about females. I guarantee Alex Hepburn will only get a couple of months in prison because mammy and daddy will pay to get him out of it. You see it constantly with these jock type mentalities that think they are invincible. Honestly the guys girlfriend is one stupid girl for standing by him after he has not only committed the crime but could ever speak about a female in that way. I hope the victim can recover one day.

[Veritas7]

His girlfriend is smiling taking pics walking as if he is a noble activist shame on her being a women standing by a scum, she should be given a working brain

[bhavy24]

Its so disgusting that guys have such thinking, i am also from a priviliged background and i never disrespect a woman

[Anonymous]

Weirdly girls like a "bad boy"...

[Asker]

I know I was only talking about it with a guy friend even he said it’s bizarre this guy has gotten a girlfriend. I would love to know what goes through her head.

[esotericstory]

Its already long since know that such things happen and that there is being spoken about women in such language.

[flipper1]

The class thing is a non issue. Girls lower themselves to go out with such men. Without girls fawning over these guys they would have no power.

[Asker]

Very classy victim blaming. You clearly don’t come from societies where these men get away with it more than somebody that is working class.

[Asker]

No means No and if a girl dresses a certain way, gets absolutely drunk or chooses to hang with a group of guys it still doesn’t give anyone the bloody right to rape her. How about not blaming the girl

[flipper1]

Wher did I say it was OK to ignore rape? What I'm saying is, we all see smooth talking guys who we know are creeps but some girls still go after them. They should not lower themselves. These guys in question would have had a reputation and no girl with sense and respect for herself would been best to steer clear.

[Anonymous]

don't care anymore women rape more then men in the US

[ciitruskiwi]

I hope you realize there is actually no way of knowing since rape and sexual assault is the most unreported crime especially with male victims. Because of that there is no statistic that is 100% correct for either female or male victims.

[Opinion Owner]

@ciitruskiwi

100,000 rape kits tested

1000 showed signs of sex
which is 1% of men

only 186 stories actually followed up and made sense
60+ have been convicted

so lets assume those 186 are true
ok

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL THIS?

99,900 WOMEN LIED ABOUT RAPE

I do not trust or want any of you bitches near me
stay the fuck away

or I will make it a reality

[N192K001]

An interesting claim, but that sounds too astounding.

I've written about male-rape victims, so I do acknowledge & denounce this type of rape the same way I would denounce any other type. But what makes you claim this? Can you cite any sources or basis to the claim?

[Opinion Owner]

@N192K001

its been out for a while now
it's all over the internet

www.google.com/search

[Opinion Owner]

@N192K001

now let me ask you this question
how can a women fake raping a man or boy?

[ciitruskiwi]

... what the fuck are you going on about? And I don't assume statistics or that stories are true. That just stupid. I like evidence.

[N192K001]

Wow… That's something new to me.

But some missing info seems lacking your response to @ciitruskiwi:
「Languishing evidence in over 100,000 sexual assault cases around the country has been sent for DNA testing with money from a New York prosecutor and federal authorities, spurring over 1,000 arrests and hundreds of convictions in three years, officials said Tuesday.

It's estimated that another 155,000 or more sex assault evidence kits still await testing, and thousands of results have yet to be linked to suspects. Many who have been identified can't be prosecuted because of legal time limits and other factors.」
www.nbcnews.com/.../cash-n-y-feds-tests-100k-rape-kits-leads-1k-n982186

So yes, 100k were tested, 1k arrests, and 'hundreds of convictions' (as per the cited article).
In another initiative, 55k tested, 186 arrests, and 64 convictions.
Yet in another, 45k tested, nearly 899 prosecuted, and 498 convicted.

The articles mention numbers for successful arrests & convictions, but none for fugitives from complete cases with sufficient evidence beyond reasonable doubt. Also, no solid numbers (other than a vague 'thousands' mentioned in the cited article) for those with yet no known D. N. A.-match. And there is no number at all ('Many' is how much exactly?) given to those whose attackers couldn't be arrested due to 'legal time limits' (statute of limitations, perhaps?).

Answering your question ('how can a women fake raping a man or boy?'), that's easy (depressingly simple!). An verbal/written accusation is already sufficient for the task of ruining a person's life, social-standing, reputation, etc.

[Opinion Owner]

@N192K001

I don't care about what she says HOW CAN SHE PHYSICALLY fake rape a man

[N192K001]

Sleeping-pills, blackmail, blunt object to the head, bindings, multiple accessories, etc. It's been done & documented. Female-perpatrators have even been convicted in numerous jurisdictions.

[Opinion Owner]

@N192K001

without being convicted?

[N192K001]

Yes, there are a number who were successfully convicted.
www.huffpost.com/.../cierra-ross-charged-raping-man_n_3882608
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...running-paedo-ring.html

There was also the 'Manacled Mormon case' in the 1970's. She was convicted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manacled_Mormon_case
But since she'd escaped to the U. S. and the U. K. courts didn't file for extradition, she was convicted and sentenced in absentia to 1yr in prison. (U. K. anti-rape laws required the victim to be female, so she was technically convicted with a more general sexual-offense.) Yes, it's pathetic.

The thing is that the number of reports & the gynocentric anti-rape laws in place make finding these make female-on-male rape convictions… less easy to find. (Cases of female teachers having relations with underage male students are more common, but aren't take as seriously in comparison with cases where the sexes are reversed.)

Technically, such cases exist, but since the world's legal systems have yet to cope, such victims barely exist in society's eye. Hence, support & recovery systems exist but are far dwarfed by their counterparts for female victims.

[Kurodo]

Is this what you would call a chav?

[Asker]

No these are totally the opposite, posh boys from very well off families. Usually daddy’s money talks.

[John_Doesnt]

Some men suffer from the Caligula effect.

[Anonymous]

right-wing men in all their glory