Oh, so you were separating out looks and sexual attractiveness? Because if we're considering the former, then I agree with you. But if the latter, then the sexual marketplace value does rise as men get older. Like the top comment on that link you posted. He highlighted it well.
And yeah, and George Clooney definitely is in a league of his own
Looks are the topic Therefore men don’t age like wine. The good women are just taken by the time those men mature late. Any woman prefers a young man who’s mature, which is more of a rare find. Need I show you the opinions on that question that explained this, such as mine? Are you being selective trying to avoid the idea?
I just read the opinions on the other question. It was interesting.
And I do think women always tend to prefer a man around their own age who is very mature. I agree with you on that.
The reason I'm being selected is because I can't tell very well what makes a man physically attractive. So if he ages better or not, I can't personally comment. I'll have to trust the average experience of women.
In terms of their sexual marketplace value, which I know is something I brought up, men do age better as they get older. And I don't think this is due to stupidity or even a change in their own morals. I think it's due to biology. Because it has been true from antiquity
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Exactly. And even with the antiquity they don’t, simply because at that point the good women are already taken and the big demand for them is only from women who were found not good enough to marry. Ever notice how women initiate much more divorce with these guys? Oh yes.
It’s like supply and demand. To begin with they are not demanded because you have the good women in the mix. Now if you make it all women who are at this point desperate... yes. So therefore it is not valid.
I've never seen any study that shows that the good woman were already taken and so the older men were just getting the leftovers. In fact, I've seen studies that counteract that position.
And yes, women do initiate much more divorce these days. But in a time of great economic prosperity and no fault divorce, it makes it much easier for them. Neither of those conditions have been true for very long, only a few decades. And my understanding is that historically women did not initiate divorces in larger numbers than men
Ask ANY women - any at all - if they prefer a younger man who is just as successful as a guy in his 40s and look at your answers you get. It is very self-explanatory. We will take a good younger man first any day. But that’s a much more rare find nowadays. The explanation is there. :)
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It means they're overall level of attractiveness to the opposite sex. How many partners they can get and how many of high quality determined this
@Yads_Is_Back Yes, that is correct. And that point I agreed with already. While there are exceptions, and I know some of them, most women would prefer a man who is younger of an equal success and maturity level.
I was commenting on this sexual marketplace value in addition to this point laid out above
No, hence why the divorce stats of initiated by women who got married in that age range and also look at which men are the complainers all the time. I haven’t done a T-test with the data, but I definitely think that P-value is well above 0.05 and therefore the two are related.
Yes, I do see your point. I have from the beginning. Unfortunately it seems like my point keeps being missed. Or perhaps we are just talking past each other
No, I get what you mean. It’s not all on looks but their value goes down as well, so that’s the counter to your point. If he kept increasing in value like wine then she wouldn’t divorce him (duh). And part of that is him getting ED, as @Hispanic-Cool-Guy said. It’s a factor but I don't know how big of one. Proves the point though. You’re saying their “value” goes up but yet they get divorced a lot more. Huh... 🤔nah maybe the woman was just desperate (part of my point) and couldn’t get better so now she wants to bail 😊
@Grond21: I disagree bruh. When you are older your sexual value or value in general goes to hell unless you make a good salary. No pretty young woman unless she's desperate idiot is going to go for a late 30's man or above when she can easily get a 20 something good looking man with raising social potential still untapped. Its reality in this cruel world.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you are taking the position that not only is physical looks decline as he ages, but his sexual marketplace value to clients as well? On average?
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy making a good salary is Part of the sexual marketplace value. And because on average men make more money as they get older, this contributing value increases. As does maturity. (Often at least) But if you have a cute girl who can take her pick, She will not infrequently go for the successful and already established man in his late 30s rather than the man her own age who hasn't achieved that success yet but only has potential for it.
@Yads_Is_Back That certainly true of some men. And perhaps it's true of many married men, as they feel like they don't have to try anymore. But according to the social studies on the issue, the average sexual marketplace value of the average man is greater in his thirties then it was in his twenties.
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Obviously young Leo looks better lol
I always said that if I looked like him when he was young I’d pull way more women.
Well, we might whine more with age, but otherwise no 🤣
Leonardo DiCaprio didn't really age badly he just needs to go on a fucking diet.
I look young still so why don't you fuck with a real one
Both those guys kinda look like Hollywood f*gs in my opinion. I wouldn’t consider them attractive.
I always have trouble identifying these things.
From what I understand, in terms of their sexual market ability, guys hit their peak and late 30s and it doesn't truly go away until mid-50s.
This is the average to be clear
Not as far as looks. Therefore in general they do not age like wine.
Perfect Explanation is here: Do men age better than women? ↗
Unless it’s George Clooney. With GC, all credit to him!
Oh, so you were separating out looks and sexual attractiveness? Because if we're considering the former, then I agree with you. But if the latter, then the sexual marketplace value does rise as men get older. Like the top comment on that link you posted. He highlighted it well.
And yeah, and George Clooney definitely is in a league of his own
Looks are the topic
Therefore men don’t age like wine. The good women are just taken by the time those men mature late. Any woman prefers a young man who’s mature, which is more of a rare find. Need I show you the opinions on that question that explained this, such as mine? Are you being selective trying to avoid the idea?
I just read the opinions on the other question. It was interesting.
And I do think women always tend to prefer a man around their own age who is very mature. I agree with you on that.
The reason I'm being selected is because I can't tell very well what makes a man physically attractive. So if he ages better or not, I can't personally comment. I'll have to trust the average experience of women.
In terms of their sexual marketplace value, which I know is something I brought up, men do age better as they get older. And I don't think this is due to stupidity or even a change in their own morals. I think it's due to biology. Because it has been true from antiquity
Men don't age better sexually. Lol. Around 40% plus of men have erectile dysfunction after age 40. Aging screws everyone.
When I say that they age better sexually, I'm talking about their sexual marketplace value. Not their sexual ability
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Exactly. And even with the antiquity they don’t, simply because at that point the good women are already taken and the big demand for them is only from women who were found not good enough to marry.
Ever notice how women initiate much more divorce with these guys? Oh yes.
It’s like supply and demand. To begin with they are not demanded because you have the good women in the mix. Now if you make it all women who are at this point desperate... yes. So therefore it is not valid.
I've never seen any study that shows that the good woman were already taken and so the older men were just getting the leftovers. In fact, I've seen studies that counteract that position.
And yes, women do initiate much more divorce these days. But in a time of great economic prosperity and no fault divorce, it makes it much easier for them. Neither of those conditions have been true for very long, only a few decades. And my understanding is that historically women did not initiate divorces in larger numbers than men
@Grond21: Sexual value? What that means?
Ask ANY women - any at all - if they prefer a younger man who is just as successful as a guy in his 40s and look at your answers you get. It is very self-explanatory. We will take a good younger man first any day. But that’s a much more rare find nowadays. The explanation is there. :)
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy It means they're overall level of attractiveness to the opposite sex. How many partners they can get and how many of high quality determined this
@yads_is_back: You desire a 1999 old car or one fresh off the assembly line? Who doesn't like new and fresh?
“Of high quality”
LOL no... unless you can prove my explanation false. But it can’t happen
@Yads_Is_Back Yes, that is correct. And that point I agreed with already.
While there are exceptions, and I know some of them, most women would prefer a man who is younger of an equal success and maturity level.
I was commenting on this sexual marketplace value in addition to this point laid out above
Glad you agree. The only difference is the supply and demand issue. :)
Doesn’t make them more desirable. It’s just that he’s the seconds and that’s all that’s left lol
Yes I do agree. I never disagreed, so it was confusing to me why you were trying to argue against me.
However, the supply and demand issue is not one I see born out in the data. I think that's just a personal observation from your part, correct?
No, hence why the divorce stats of initiated by women who got married in that age range and also look at which men are the complainers all the time. I haven’t done a T-test with the data, but I definitely think that P-value is well above 0.05 and therefore the two are related.
Why are you assuming that the women who initiate divorce are doing so because of the looks of their husband?
You can put it together if you want or ignore it, Idc. But it’s still there and at least you see the point
Yes, I do see your point. I have from the beginning. Unfortunately it seems like my point keeps being missed. Or perhaps we are just talking past each other
No, I get what you mean. It’s not all on looks but their value goes down as well, so that’s the counter to your point. If he kept increasing in value like wine then she wouldn’t divorce him (duh). And part of that is him getting ED, as @Hispanic-Cool-Guy said. It’s a factor but I don't know how big of one. Proves the point though. You’re saying their “value” goes up but yet they get divorced a lot more. Huh... 🤔nah maybe the woman was just desperate (part of my point) and couldn’t get better so now she wants to bail 😊
@Grond21: I disagree bruh. When you are older your sexual value or value in general goes to hell unless you make a good salary. No pretty young woman unless she's desperate idiot is going to go for a late 30's man or above when she can easily get a 20 something good looking man with raising social potential still untapped. Its reality in this cruel world.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you are taking the position that not only is physical looks decline as he ages, but his sexual marketplace value to clients as well? On average?
Yes! Absolutely
And wine doesn’t decline in value like that is it gets older
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Smart guy you are
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy making a good salary is Part of the sexual marketplace value. And because on average men make more money as they get older, this contributing value increases. As does maturity. (Often at least)
But if you have a cute girl who can take her pick, She will not infrequently go for the successful and already established man in his late 30s rather than the man her own age who hasn't achieved that success yet but only has potential for it.
@Yads_Is_Back That certainly true of some men. And perhaps it's true of many married men, as they feel like they don't have to try anymore. But according to the social studies on the issue, the average sexual marketplace value of the average man is greater in his thirties then it was in his twenties.
@Grond21: Yeah, its all about the green. Not enough green and you're old then you don't get the young pretty kitty. LMBO. People suck man.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy 😂😂 sad but true. Financial status seems to impact way more than it should these days.
You're alright man.
Keanu reeves ages well
No. I don't know why people say that.
Nope. Young guys look better.
can't say but more hook ups
I am pretty sure most women want a young Cap.
Nether one
I get that not everyone likes Leo because I’m not a fan of him either. But in general, do you think guys look better at 19-21 or above 50?
I would say between 30 amd 50
I’m told I look really good.
Actually some guys do age like wine.
He aged badly
age ruins everybody
Absolutely
Old. Guys in general looks better older.
No idea what this is
No idea where the planet thing came in. I think it was a glitch. It was not part of my question when I made it. I don't know
Why do men care?
Because they're the ones always using the phrase. And as you can see, they don't like being proved wrong. But the poll did that lol
Oh wow such a great idea yea it must be right then
🤔 not wine