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A lot of guys I knew were romantic when younger but stopped. I think most found it wasn't actually appreciated all that much and in fact sometimes backfired.
Because you have to be a prize to get effort. If your just an average girl (these days average is almost useless) you won't get effort.
I've never had a issue with effort. It's very easy to shut ones legs.
I wouldn't want to be in a relationship without romance. That would seem really boring
What do you mean by 'romantic'? That's just super broad, y'know?
You are proving like everything the guys are saying with this one comment XD
…what? What am I proving by asking a question?
By saying being romantic is boring you are proving what the majority of guys answers are saying. Or to some it up in a quote. Chivalry is dead and women killed it.
LOL ok pal
Say enjoy living in solitude and only having yourself to talk to
He didn’t say anything about living life in solitude? He’s merely stating how girls don’t care. I have gone to feminist rallies just to see what their message is. It’s all about individualism and pushing this thought of healthy relationships with a man is the past and blah blah blah. Guys/men have major flaws to fix but you know what, women/girls do as well. For girls to be sooo cold hearted today to guys who do want to open and explain things in deeper terms is a sign/direction of bettering themselves. Because back in the day, many men would not care about diving deeper about women. It was just be quiet, make my food, and that’s it. Today, there are guys who cook, clean, want to give self confidence to his daughter and etc. To @kaylas91id you read this and laugh and say “whatever” well I got my answer. Throughout my years of talking to girls who were angry with guys and wanted to stop talking to guys for good, never once did I tell those girls…Ok you lesbian bitch enjoy living life without a penis or living with your cats in solitude. Nah, I tried to talk to these girls and make them feel better that not all guys are like that, simple.
I didn’t say anything about how being romantic is boring (as a matter of fact- I merely asked op for clarification). I can’t take this guy seriously if he acts hostile about things I never even said 🤷🏼♀️
Well that’s the thing guys and girls both have to change their ways. Guys can’t get all bent out of shape and girls can’t just dismiss how a guy feels. I’m not disagreeing with you, but I’m not disagreeing with him either. There are girls who act that way and I will call it out. But guys who act like dogs, cheat, act foolish to girls/women, ya I’ll call that shit out to. Just because im a guy, please understand I’m not a guy who’s obligated to follow some stupid bro code. I’ve learned now that just because a girl says right off the bat “not interested”. That’s fine, a girl has her rights to.
I’m aware of what he’s saying.
I’m not sure why you’re going on about feminist rallies when all I did was ask op what she meant by ‘romantic’.
Because feminists on the campus I went to were rude to guys, I know female TA's who favoured female students over male students, that is a form of discrimination. But I know that this cycle of, "Well we went through it so they should to" continues to happen. Romance is tied to what? Dating? Relationships and marriage, correct? Well, I'm not lying, feminists frown upon that and I have asked questions on GAG why are relationships and marriage not as prevalent as before? Well many girls on GAG, i'm not sure you feel the same way will say "we don't need a man or guy in our life", well we live in a liberalizing society but that also has its downside as well which I don't find very liberating in social ways, in political ways, in religious ways or even in economic ways. I mean we exist because our parents got married, had sex and had children. But now, i'm not going to sugar coat it, look at the world today we are at odds, if you're feeling exhausted or stressed out or whatever more than usual, join the line because many people do. You might be wondering what the hell does all this stuff have to do with "romance" and like I said I have heard feminists pretty much tell girls... Don't worry about being in a relationship, focus on yourself and your job. That's fine, people can have individualistic goals but it takes two to tango right?
Well I think what @Reyow means is if girls give us guys the middle finger and girls turn around and think "omg stop being such babies or simps or obsessive losers" the constant insults from either sex doesn't end man. We live in divisive times, we live in strange times. Me finding a girl who's grounded and can think for herself and doesn't follow a billion ideologies is rare to find these days just as a girl finding a guy who's not a player, is still a virgin is a loyal/committed guy. You can disagree with me on this and that's ok but this is how I feel about today's culture towards romance, males/females and I believe this is why chivalry is slowing eroding.
Those girls sound like assholes, not feminists 🙈.
See the scary thing, those types of girls or even girls who are TA's pursuing their PhD's consider that behaviour valid and acceptable. I don't accept physical violence from men hitting women, neither women belittling men in such a condescending manner. This doesn't go for all girls today, I know there are great girls in this world today. I remember I took women's studies in my 2nd year of undergraduate studies as a side elective course during the summer of 2016. One day, I didn't show up to class because I wasn't in the mood. This guy I know from class told me, "bro you wouldn't believe what happened?", i'm like what happened? He said some older female student in her 40s was arguing with me just because i'm a guy and it got embarrassing to the point of the professor who was also a woman apologized to the guy who had to deal with that female student being out of line.
@kaylaS91 yes i call them female asshole feminazis. And what i ment is your second line says romance is boring which is what i was pointing out that because of that you are proving what a lot of the guy comments said which boiled down to women killed romance not men
@raw_is_war99 yah basically. Like when you read all the break downs on the guy answers than read this one its hard not to see what she said as a middle finger
Because the type of guys women keep pursuing are the guys they see in movies.
Those guys aren't who we are nor who we will become.
Oh yeah, all this "strong independent woman don't need no man" attitude, it's becoming more and more repulsive as more and more stupid and dependent woman claim to be such. We have nothing against women who actually are strong and independent.
What are you basing this off? @loves2learn would you say that I am romantic? Would you say you're husband is romantic?
Sure. You are romantic. Hubs tries. Lol. I give him A for effort.
@Nazgol I think you are meeting wrong type of guys, Indian men as especially known to be romantic, we watch too much Bollywood 🤷🏽♂️
L2L, that's good, better than a lazy SO in a relationship that doesn't try 😊
There are romantic men you just have to find them! It's like funding waldo
Because women wanted power, respect and be treated like men as equals. Romance is the trade off. Why treat someone romantically when all that's gonna do is diminish oneself?
because some guys as ya put it understand that bein romantic as ya put it dont get em laid if bein romantic did get guys laid i promise ya that more guys as ya put it would automatically be much more romantic as ya say ya want
I don't know about straight men, but in me experience as a gay man, gay guys are still romantic
Ask women about this, because us guys are only doing what works with you women.
I am kinda romantic by the way.
Romance for a girl is like yesterday's sandwich in the fridge. The more often it gets ignored, the worse it becomes for someone finally wanting it.
If i had to take a guess it can be cause it doesn't seem to interest women anymore
Because they get nothing in return for that effort.
Also, its 2021. Go be strong and independent
i don't even bother anymore, in the long run they forget anyways. it is what have you done for me lately attitude that prevails
@llcanon I've seen first hand multiple cases where a woman told her man that what he did wasn't good enough but secretly told her girlfriend (s) that what he did was amazing. They play that game to make the man feel like a beggar. Same reason why if you were trying to buy something by haggling you would tell the other person that what they have isn't as valuable as you know it is..
@llcanon but it back fires on these women when they try it on a guy who isn't a desperate/low confidence type.
Does everyone realize that there are whole websites and i mean lots of them of married women and singles women just looking doe men to screw because they are finished with their husbands and boyfriends but would never divorce them because the husbands would never find out and do you know these women and not even one who i got huts from and i got a lot- not a single one was looking for Romance but all were looking for a good fuck and fun. I have never answered even one request to come to them due to i will not do that to a married Man- it just is not right. I did it just out of curiousity and all do not love their husbands or boyfriends. This is why I do not date anymore because if people could see the volume of married women and single women and even women engaged and seen the sheer volume you would lose hope in romance and woman as well. the funny part is the solution to whatever drives them to be doing this lays with the women and it is so so heartbreaking because modern technology j=has made it so so much more easy to do and not get caught- truly truly sad. Another reason i won't respond to their request to hook up is because why would i want to be serious about as woman who already is a expert on betraying loved ones as she once she gets bored with you if you hop in the sack then all she will do is cut it off and mess around with the next man who catches her fancy and good bye to you and if she cheated on her husband with me it would be no problem for her to cheat on you either
@hahahmm i agree with that- for the most part romance is just about dead today. Do you have any idea how many websites- hook up dating sites married and single (fiances) women are involved in -there is tons of these on the web-they are not looking for romance but just a good fuck- amazing how many i saw. So i don't even bother-why go fishing in a water hole where the fish are poisonous.
@hahahmm exactly right
That's nice. Men want women to stop trying to ruin their lives. See the problem?
Ruin your life how?
@WowwGirl False accusations, etc.
Okay
Because feminazis and feminism wanted a change and so here you go.
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Becase 40 years ago dad left the home and never came back. That left mom with 2 jobs to work. Then mom can relate to Jane but Johnny. For gentleman now the boys had no one teach then to love. So if you find a mam teach him to love you
Probably you have been in creep city all this while
If he likes you he will put in the effort.
Guys like to please
Yeah if your married for a couple of years maybe
If you like him you won't expect him to treat you like that you will both equally put in effort. The way you phrased your response is exactly what is killing romance and chivalry. Your statement implies you expect to be treated like a queen when you treat the man like a jester and not a king that is your equal. Hence the fuk u from the one guy. So maybe just maybe get your head out of your ass and act better
@Reyow can you guys stop making assumptions about what I meant and simply ask.
Y'all are super annoying and I don't really have to justify myself after such childish out of proportion reactions😂
Jeez it's like I hit a nerve.
Regardless, my point is guys tend to wanna please and help a woman if they are into her whether in bed or in real life. It's like the positive aspect of masculinity.
Guys get off a lot by seeing their partner in pleasure and they tend to give more and initiate more sexually. Also in real life they like to feel needed, like they're the man.
I thinks guys are more action driven while women like to talk and express more.
To resume, if the guy likes you he is gonna want to please you and be romantic and all.
Yes, a guy who likes you will indeed put in the effort. A guy who likes you put also has some self-respect will not only put in the effort, but will also evaluate if you put in the effort back. If not, then he will drop you like a hot potato and find a girl who will.
@TruthBringer that's valid for both genders
Now can you guys stop projecting your butthurt feelings into my comment and stop assuming shit.
@Schizoaffective Where did I project? So anyone who tells you a piece of fact is suddenly "butthurt"? This actually reflects on yourself. So you're the one who is actually projecting.
@TruthBringer simply what made you think that I meant girls shouldn't put in any effort or I specifically don't to even mention it or make a point of it?
The question is solely on a guy's behaviour.
Never implied you claimed such a thing. I simply put forth a narrative, that is all. No need to get all butthurt about it, love.
@TruthBringer I am annoyed by your post and the previous ones of guys getting all offended or feelings to make a point about it or make it sound like smthng I didn't mean.
Also don't patronise me by calling me love.
Feeling*
Whatever the other guys said is none of my business. That's between you and them. No need to get angry at me for what someone else said. I merely put forth a narrative that is in direct correlation with your comment.
@TruthBringer ow no, your comment initially annoyed me too until you clarified.
Well glad you saw the light and calmed down ;)
@TruthBringer I am calm, I am just bored.
@Schizoaffective ok so i see what you meant now with your comment that layed out what u meant in more detail. But that is part of the issue i think. Your short answer says one thing but your fully written out reply says another. The full context is important.
@Reyow not really you just projected what you thought, I think.
Some men are still romantic, but I agree it's rare these days.
because women are too easy to have sex with. why bother? 2 clicks to sex and i can get nudes before the first date
Women lowered their value. They call it "freedom" but not being loyal to a man has consequences like nobody takes her seriously.
They are not romantic because they are only in it for themselves, at least that's what I've been told by several women.
A bank robber told me that he was just borrowing the money he stole.
These guys are single lol. I think I'm pretty romantic, can't find a girlfriend though to share it with.
Id say the hook up culture that is so prevalent is the main reason.
Edit: also to all the guys on here you have really opened my eyes and a lot of this explains my issues with self worth in a way. What i have been looking for in a significant other dosnt exist anymore. Like no it wasn't just me. I feel a little better about myself thank you
She still exists but the problem you’ll run into is that she’s a true needle in a haystack. I know a few of them and they’re all married and they all married young. The majority of women out there today are used up and losing value like crazy and they don’t even realize it.
The issue we, as men, need to address somehow is all these simps paying women to exist. We need to get these guys involved in something and build up their self worth. Get them motivated and active. We need to get them off the idea that money buys attention.
@Reyow check out my MyTake On Needing Women & Love in the Modern Age ↗
Some guys still are but sometimes that fades away with time
This one is easy. Feminism and the war on men that has been taking place for a while now
It’s hard to see why, but there are some that are. I for sure would be one, only with the one I am with. It’s unclear to me as to why most guys are not romantic.
There are a lot of guys who are romantic. But just not as much as girls. It was all the time.
Because, from my experience, every time we give a female our all we get treated like shit.
Yh because you need to have standards and boundaries so that you don't get taken advantage of
@jescex The moment we do suddenly we're overly controlling, sexist, misogynist and blah blah blah blah.
but there is a difference between you being controlling and letting a girl step on you and use you that is why men need to start loving themselves and have self love so that something like this doesn't happen and to respect yourself
@jescex You try growing up being told your only purpose in life is to protect and provide, that your entire value as a person is based on how much a woman wants you, that the only thing that gives you any meaning is how much money you make, and that you're expendable and easy to replace if you don't cater to their whims every day and even then you might still get cheated on because she was bored.
You're right, men needs to learn to love themselves more, but thats a DEEP hole to climb out of.
@Malik00 feminist cunts let them hate boundaries means you're looking for something more meaningful the only guys who don't have boundaries are the f boys who really don't care about anything another girl another fun then move on
@Malik00 Very well said. Men need to not base their self worth on how attractive they are to women.
Same reason why girls aren't romantic anymore. But I don't care.
like fabio lanzio?
Because the woman we were romanatic with didn't appreciate it and took us for granted
A lot of (but not all) guys today don't feel it's not 'necessary' anymore or don't know how to be.
Because of the females who go along with hook ups
I try to be, especially if they are showing interest it can just be hard sometimes
zombies have eaten the romantic part of their brain, zombies AKA video games
Because women think they’re too good for you
If you haven’t watched the new Alexander Grace video on YouTube about female preference for specific heights. I’d do that. Women don’t just think they’re too good for men, they’re downright deluded for the most part. Women need to have less access to global pools of men. We need to make communities local again to fix these problems or we will cease to exist as a species because of women’s blatant disregard for reality.
I’m never gonna be romantic or kiss the ass of a woman who doesn’t respect me as a man
I’ll check that video out now if it’s not too long
They aren’t? I think many still are.
Women made it into a chore.
Women don’t realize how batshit they are. I once made a chick I was dating and living with a $20 per plate brunch and she refused to eat it because I wouldn’t call off of work and stay with her all day. This wasn’t $20 at a restaurant, this was $20 out of pocket for ingredients; this would have been a $50-65 per plate brunch had we gone out for it. Can you imagine taking a chick out and having her refuse to eat the $50 meal you happily bought her? This was about 4.5 years ago now, I can’t imagine how much worse relationships are today.
In theory, it should be mutually enjoyable. But there's too little give from women, only take and demands. It's to the point where these kinds of things are a chore men do to stay on her good side and are resigned to the understanding that girls are just a little dumb like that.
On the plus side, I feel more comfortable with my own desires as a guy and it think it's true for many.
When it comes to all that stuff that women might complain about in men, which men historically compromised on, now men seem to stand their ground. Like, "no sorry but I don't care about your education or career, I care that you haven't had any previous partners and are good company. And I'm not just going to jump through hoops for you because you're a girl".
You seem to be attracting the wrong guys.
I'm romantic. But you squashed my heart!
Feminism happened
Thank you at least some women see it too
I say we stop glorifying it by calling it that. The first wave did some good. Then, the movement was hijacked by cultural Marxism, who infused it with Kate Millet Syndrome for maximum damage. Now, Millet's insanity governs the logic of family courts.
Which has morphed from simply showing favoritism to women, to full blown racketeering and child trafficking.
North Dakota family courts also engage in libel campaigns, gangstalking and harassment of men who lawyer up and fight back, illegal secret meetings, getting kids addicted to drugs on purpose, brainwashing sessions to plant false memories and turn children against their parents, and selling to sex traders those kids who can resist the brainwash and gaslighting and dare try to testify against the family court to any other court. As well as murdering cops who turn whistleblower, etc.
Deputies in the racket even abuse of the mentally ill by lying to them after wrongfully jailing the parent (claim the parent is a chomo without evidence.). Their hope being the crazy guy will kill the targeted parent, and then they can execute the crazy guy to keep him from talking.
At this point, I wouldn't put it past them to be offering up children skewerd like pigs complete with apple in mouth on an altar to Satan, while performing Canaanite pagan dance rituals. But if anyone can verify that last part, they didn't live long enough to tell me. Also, when they jail parents for nonexistent crimes, they violate every law on the books regarding prisoners' rights.
Clearly you never dated me
Cuz relationships aren't that serious anymore.
Right. They wanted "freedom" and now they have it but that comes with consequences like guys not taking them seriously.
Freedom is a hoax
There are many romantic guys out there
Try French guys they'll sweep you off your feet.
There are... just not Russians...🤨
They're actually well known for being romantic. But they can have a nasty side too
Buts it's like when they get nasty it's real bad & hurtful scary even lol
its not really fair to say but it SEEMS LIKE... Russians in general are just so broken as a people that the type of behavior that comes out of them as a whole is one of despondency.
sad, really.
Yeah. That's true
as a kid i hated russians because of the SOVIETS but after the wall fell and i had more access to russian history... wow! what a people.
so now i don't hate any people group but the idea of communism, i hate that. the communist party of china, hate them. the chinese people. also, rich illustrious history. i have nothing against the chinese. militant terrorist supporting islam, hate it, persian people? wonderful people. same same all over the world. militant catholics in the middle ages, horrible people, catholics in general, good people (always exceptions... get on board).
this is also a window into humanity, if any people group whose focus is to raise their family and be the best they can be... theyre usually awesome people. regardless of race or ethnicity or color.
if the focus would be on working for the benefit of your family and making yourself better... NOT BY STEALING WHAT OTHERS HAVE!!! then the whole planet would be better off.
institutions that want to take from one group and profit for themselves... those are the real bad guys.
it's sad that so many people are sucked in to the race baiting and make things worse because they're ignorant and selfish assholes that hear what they want to hear and ignore truth.
Why? How did it affect you though the Soviets as a kid?
Yeah that's true they definitely do have a soft spot just gotta tap into them and find a way to get along with them cause they're not easy people to get along with. I find the more agreeable and respectful you are to them and show interest the better lol or else good luck
After all, there are more women in russian then men and that's because they lost a lot in wars
*Russia
that's why i'm building up a tolerance for vodka.
so i can drink with them. and tell sad stories.
maybe then they'll accept me.
And their women are fighting for the guys lol
Lol be careful with the vodka! Dont overdo it or you'll regret
that's why i'm building up a tolerance now...
I am for the right woman.
Because women aren't.
You aren’t dating the right guys
Bkoz not everyone have gorgeous girl like you 😘
I am but the notion is that girls tend to fz them
They are romantic with certain women.
Hard to find someone who deserves it.
Because girls aren't romantic.
girls aren't worth the effort anymore.
Nope it’s all about $$
When were they? In old movies?
it's your fault to couldn't find one
I am it just isn't appreciated anymore