Do Men Who Stand-up For or Defend Women, Usually Do So Because They Want to Get Laid or Earn their Romantic Favor? (Page 2)
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No. But it says a lot about men who said Yes that they can't even conceive of men doing the right thing just because it's the right thing.
Bunch of losers...
Good men exist. A few men have stood up for me on the internet, knowing I don't do nudes nor believe in online relationships. Some men can be unconditionally kind.
Rr update: usually that's not true
I would stick up for anyone who doesn't deserve to be hurt. It doesn't matter if they were male , female, young, old human or animal. It also doesn't matter if it's online or irl. I don't do it to get laid, I do it because it is the right thing to do.
I can’t vote based on those two options.
Yes, sometimes men stand up for women in hopes of romance or sexual favors.
Buuuuut, there are a lot of amazing men who will stand up for women simply because it’s the right thing to do.
I’ll save anyone who needs saving, because it’s the right thing to help people in need not because I’m expecting some sort of sexual favor as payment. However if a beautiful woman wants to fall in love with me over my nature/protective instinct.. I’m not going to fight her.
No, of course not. 'White Knights' do what they do because they believe that what they're doing is the right thing to do. That, on its own, is a sufficient reason. That's what I believe, a belief that is based upon observation.
Good question. There seems to be a mix of motivations, with sex at the forefront.
well i sure hope not. Id like to believe they do it because theyre genuinely a nice person
Some might I guess. But if a guy doesn't get that it's his DUTY to defend his mother, sister, or partner, then he's not got a very good understanding of what it means to be a man.
Not always. I will defend a woman I love or a dear friend, but I will not stand up for a woman I do not know.
Quite often, yes.
More often, it's b/c they're willing to believe a sob story they've been fed, then "bulling up" on the guy who's been lionized by the poor innocent damsel in distress.
All those tough independent women can defend themselves. I will not take a moment of my time or the slightest risk for them. Just like they won't for me.
For me it would be because it would be the right thing to do.
Yeah.. They're usually like that... Some of them are total slimeballs
Absolutely. The fact that so many females said "no" belies the fact that Captain-Save-A-Hoe's never get laid.
It's something called "women are wonderful effect" and also the same reason why adults stand up for children.
It’s probably more from dad’s who have daughters and are ready to die for their babies…and when they think some shit is going down…don’t get in his way.
I stand up for anybody if it's the right thing to do
Of course they do. These beta boys will do anything to get the box even if that means being a white knight
Then why do you think people also stand up for children? Do they simp for children?
Those people aren't trying to fuck kids. Men want pussy and will do anything even losing respect for themselves to get it
Then i can say the same thing to other guys not trying to fuck women but doing it because it is right. Same as how they'd stand up for kids and other men. I guess you just wanna generalize because it's the most convenient thing to do.
Yes there but there are a lot more dudes that will do so only to get what they want. If they're only helping a specific girl but don't give a shit about others then i know they're full of shit and just white knighting
And you still haven't proved what their motives are about. "if" they are "only" helping hot girls then that's just theoretical. Because just like helping kids, of course you wouldn't say such thing as helping a specific kind of kid. So if you don't think that way when it comes to people helping kids then you literally have no excuse for making assumptions about guys helping girls
Lol its not that hard to figure out when its genuine versus doing it just so they can get pussy. Does this hit too close to home? Do you white knight a woman that doesn't need actually need any help
Then if it's not that hard then how come you're just making generalizations? Forget if it's genuine. you just assume it's white knighting. And secondly the asker never said anything about women who don't need help.
And to answer your question further, i only "white knight" those girls who really do need help for the same reason I "white knight" those guys those guys and children who do need help. I'm going with your terminology because according to you helping someone is white knighting
Not every dude that helps a woman is a simp. But there's plenty of dudes that only help to get something in return. These are white knights and I've seen plenty of them. I know the ones that are being genuine which aren't white knights and the ones that are full of shit and just white knighting to get some pussy. Relax
You still didn't prove anything by saying there are many of them are when I can also say there are many who aren't Simp for doing it. And also I never said not every dude are not Simps for helping a girl. However, you just made a claim that those guys are beta males. You never said many of them are but your original comment is generalizing. So you still have no proof that they generally do that to get pussy and the fact that you don't have any proof which is what I pointed out maybe triggered you which you should relax
Lol dude you got triggered enough to keep digging deeper into this. It's not that deep. There's a lot of dudes that will do whatever they have to do to get the box. But there are dudes that genuinely when it's necessary. There's no need to be thar triggered over this
Look who's also replying further though. what does that even make you? When you tell people to relax just because they pointed out of your logical fallacy clearly means you are not relaxed because there really is no reason for you to get so defensive over it. It's not that deep
You're the one that came to my post. You got triggered over it. If you white knight for pussy, i get it and understand. But i already said that not every dude that does help is a simp but you keep dragging this conversation
Well you have no other point making an opinion if you don't want any criticism. So what if I came? Is that all that's need to be considered to make someone "triggered"? So yeah it seems like my reply bothers you more than anything else. And and you said "not all" in the last minute just until your logic got debunked. Lol i've seen worse contradicting tactic.
Yes because i know it bothered you enough that you're still responding. This is going to keep going on and on. But that's fine. I still stand by what i say there's a lot of white knights. Simps, white knights, manginas. Take your pick
These girls aren't going to fuck them. But they never get that through their heads
And it also bothered you enough that you also continue responding, like a hypocrite. And who said I care about this going on and on? I still stand by what I said that your contradicting things in the end meaning that's not what you're saying in the first comment and you're making assumptions saying generally they do.
You commented on my post so im going to respond to it. I can tell by looking at you that you subscribe to onlyfans and have never touched a woman. You definitely have your moments where you simp and white knight only in hopes of getting something
You talk about guys so I responded to it. You can read your comment again, you never said some. You can read the question again. It says "do men" not "do some men". It's not rocket science to understand what generalization means. If you like to make assumptions about me then I can make assumptions about you saying it's obvious that you're just a wimp who can't help anyone even your family and your kids.
If this is about generalizations and my wording was wrong and it got you bent out of shape then fine generalizations are wrong but there's a lot and i mean a lot of men that only help to get something. And i dont live near any of my family. But if i did. I would do my best to protect them and even die if i had to. But im also not gonna help a random girl that doesn't need any actual help in hopes to get in her pants
Just pointing that out just incase you're surprised why you get downvotes. It's not those white knights that did but some regular men did because you're talking about them being beta boys. If you think I'm bent out with your wordings, then that's not different if I say you're bent out about guys helping a girl for making hasty generalizations at the start.
And you see, because I made assumptions about you like what you did on me, look at how you really defended yourself by making those claims. You know what? I can also say I'm not a white knight but I help anyone out of abundance as long as it's not risking my life. I just don't make excuses like you.
If your helping a person because you find them attractive and want something, thats different than helping someone because you have genuine intentions and know its the right thing to do. But a lot of men aren't like that and only help to get something and not genuine thus they're white knights and simps. And i really dont care if i get downvoted. Im not here to win appraisal or validation. I give my opinion and stand by it. Reguardless if i offend people or not
Except you cannot guarantee if that person is actually helping that person because she is attractive or something. It's the same as when the pizza delivery guy saved that kid from fire. Which is what I'm still referring to your first answer making generalization actually. Regardless of how much you keep denying my reply still stands.
You can tell dude lol. Its not that hard. If a dude only helps attractive women but dont help ugly women, that pretty much should tell you a lot. Accept it man. there's men that will genuinly help and there are others that only do so for the box. Its simple
Yeah I can tell but I don't assume generally they do because I haven't met most guys in the world and neither do you. You also need to accept that. What your currently saying has nothing to do with your first comment by the way. I'm still talking about how you generalize at first.
Why is that such a big issue to you? And I've met enough to know the difference
And why is it such a big issue for you to admit your mistake and admit your generalizing?
I did correct it and say that not every guy that helps a woman is a simp. But a lot that do are simps/white knights
Then i did clarify that its not that you say there are white knights who help women being simps and its just that you couldve said it better
oh so many ignorant girls here. we never take any action if it doesn't help us get laid