Would you do a dating coach program for other reasons besides being successful with women?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

I'm being honest when I say that I am not a damn simp and I just feel like women are no longer worth my time. to me they are not just worth the effort anymore and aside from that relationships just feel stupid and pointless.

however I kinda want to try that coaching program above called Awakening Dominant Male Attitudes, created by that famous dating coach name Steve Piccus. the main core of this coaching program is as the name says make you more dominant. like 75% of the program is hypnosis so you really dont have to do a lot of reading or changing who you are in any way.

it just caught my interest because throughout my life I been bullied by my family members and many people I knew for being so fucking nice and supposely lacking masculinity. but then, wtf? I'm a millenial! and not only did I not grew up with a father but like all the other typical millenials in the west I too was castrated by feminism.

so I thought I give this program a try just to feel what is like to be a dominant man. but then again my ego is telling me "dont waste your time and money on this horseshit!" because I also believe that dating coaches are nothing but scam artists. its like wtf does this guy Steve Piccus knows about masculinity? this guy is a business man who obviously, like any other dating coaches, pays model bimbos on the download to flock to him and pretend they are all his mistress. plus I looked him up and found out he was born in 1971, therefore he might not be a millenial but he didn't quite escape the castration of feminism either.

till then should I at least give this program a try? just like Marijuana, could this program have other benefits to offer?

[WanderingLoveWizard]

You're right, most dating coaches are full of shit.
They all focus and being a "man" and what "women want", like it's all some big algorithm and people are so stupid that we can't help but fall into our monkey like nature.

"Don't text her back right away! Wait a couple hours. This shows that you're a high value man with more important things to do than 'simp' over women! She'll CRAVE you!"

Yeah, do that and watch her fall for the next guy who's not a fucking dick and doesn't buy off on that MGTOW horseshit.

Women are HUMAN. They should be focusing on universal truths that applies to all humans. Respect, admiration and love. That's what we all want in a relationship. Some people just have no idea what any of that even means.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

not saying I disagree with you but we mgtow hate pickup artists and pua just as bad as you do. If I wasn't a mgtow I probably would of bought this shit without head first without questioning it.

but yeah I've always said the same thing, women are humans too so therefore there really is no need for us men to learn special fucking ways in order to communicate with them and for them to fall in love with us. but unfortunately women have been lost way longer than we have thanks to feminism.

women nowadays are no different when it comes to what you said about in your last paragraph. a lot of them claim they aren't sex objects yet they dont mind being your sex slave in a relationship just as long as you reward with whatever it is that they think they deserve or feel entitlted to get out of you.

we humans really are getting closer to total damnation as days go by

[WanderingLoveWizard]

That's all very true my friend. Couldn't agree more.
And the original MGTOW philosophy was spot on, and I was on board with it.
But then a bunch of young idiots in YouTube turned it into a joke, which everyone started to take seriously.
So I guess I'm mainly referring to this new twisted version of it that makes absolutely no sense to me

[Filthy_Immigrant]

well the thing is that mgtow gets a lot of misinterpretation thanks to all the hatred we get.

a lot of folks think that just because we rose to oppose feminism that we are suddenly just another movement itself opposing feminism when in reality we are nothing like a movement for the fact that we dont encourage men to have just one mentality.

there are mgtows out there who are monks, some are happy beating off to porn, some (like me) prefer sleeping with prostitutes and of course there are those who are handsome enough to sleep with women and because of these specific mgtow we often get pigeonhole with puas and dating coaches.

others who hate us really bad with pigeonhole us as "incels in denial." though that can be true because some of us are incels who learned that having an Elliot Rodger mentality does nothing but harm you mentally and emotionally.

lastly we also get pigeonhole with MRAs for the fact that we advocate justice for men in our misandric society. but we fight it differently than MRA of course

[DownInTheDumps]

I feel it's silly to do one of these. Have you noticed many of them are single themselves, so If the dating coach's advice is as good as they are saying, why are they single themselves or why can they can never make a relationship last.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

that's great observation!

I'm guessing the reason for this is because dating coaches and pua tend to target men who think its possible for any guy to liveout their porn fantasies and bring a different woman home every weekend

[DownInTheDumps]

There are quite a few out there who target women as well. One guy is particular his name is Matthew and he has a YouTube channel. Anytime I watched his videos, I was like, man you are single and your last rel didn't even last a year.

I honestly believe sometimes the person we are destined to be with is the very person who you probably wouldn't have even bothered to talk to because you would have written them off because of their looks but if we took the time to actually talk to people especially those who we feel aren't our type maybe we would meet the person who we are meant to spend our lives with.

[Vegasrunner]

@downinthedumps That's a great question. Part of the reason is because men and women have completely different metrics for dating success. Women's success is based on the quality of man she can retain. Men's success is based on the number of women he can retain.