Why is asking for a good decent guy too much to ask for nowadays?

[Anonymous]

A lot are of low quality with bad values/morals. Is it really too much to ask the average? Or do we all have to seek Dr's & such!

[MrOracle]

There are plenty of good guys with good morals and values - it's just that they probably aren't super hot or especially wealthy - rather they are relatively average guys, and being average guys, they have been taught by women that they aren't good enough, so a lot of them have stopped pursuing women completely.

Most of them aren't against the idea of being in a relationship (some are, and have chosen the MGTOW path, but most have simply stopped pursuing women because so many women told them that their interest was unwelcome), but they have to see some genuine signs of interest from the girl first before they make any kind of move.

A lot of these guys are going to be blue collar workers, and others will be middle management types, or small business owners. Most don't go to bars or clubs and don't often socialize outside of their friend groups, so you have to keep your eyes open when you are out in the world, or grow your own circles of friends and go to as many of their parties and gatherings as you can - go to their Superbowl party even if you hate football, etc.

Finally, you will need to vet the guys you meet, focusing on their morals, values, and life goals. Not every guy has the ones you want, and you have to be willing to filter those men out, even if they are handsome, funny, or exciting.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

If truth be told Good Decent Guys are getting Scared Away or we are adapting to a changing world. It’s like girls say they want good decent guys or nice guys & they end up friend zoning us because you really want bad boys.

[MikeInHawaii]

I never smoked, never drank, never used drugs, worked multiple jobs and have had many women tell me some variation of I was “too nice.” There are decent guys out there, they just might not be 6’ 4”, make $300,000 per year, drive Mercedes, or be among the 7% of men women rate as above average looking (according to Tinder).

[ProbablyClueless]

Even going for Doctors won't guarantee anything. There's a lot of trashy behavior at every income level.

It really seems like dating sucks for everyone involved.

[richardcory]

There are good men out there, but what do you see as "quality" and "values / morals". What are you looking for?

[jahaims]

You know the saying you get paid what you are worth? Same goes for dating. Maybe you have an unrealistic perspective on where you stand in the dating pool. That or you are just bad at finding prospective partners.

[serious]

Absolutely not. It is totally fair and justifiable

[exitseven]

You might have to accept that he will not be wealthy and will not look like a movie star

[Asker]

Ya, that's always a plus

[BarryLiverstone]

Depends on your standards and what exceptions you can work with. What do you need in a relationship and have you gotten that in the past?

[Grovermint]

Your standards in looks are probably too high.

[Anonymous]

Today's men no longer worry about getting a wife, instead we do not focus on our personal and professional growth, valuing the freedom that they entail.

[Anonymous]

Because it's typically asked by low quality woman unworthy of him.

[Anonymous]

There are plenty of decent guys, you just don't find them attractive.

[Anonymous]

Let you tell it lol

[BigDog1989]

define "decent"

[DerekC321]

I hope that's not true.

[Jmmmfi4]

There's one or 2 left

[FunkyMonkee]

You rang?

[In_Trance]

apparently so