What are your thoughts on self-hatred men?

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't know why there are men hating their own kind.

I find them weird and just being pick-me's.

[Anonymous]

It’s usually because of the following:

• They were raised by extremely controlling mothers and the emotional abuse leaves them mentally all screwed up. They have very unhealthy toxic shame/guilt about being a man with a sex drive. Tragically many of these guys eventually become what they were told never to be (creeps) later in life. They don’t understand real masculinity. Toxic guilt ironically drives people to get worse not better.
• They are “white knights” and believe throwing other men under the bus will get sexually them rewarded. Maybe it does but it’s only temporary and it’s often from the worst types of women. These guys are actually manipulated/sociopathic sex addicts. Or they are compensating for a deep insecurity. However women never truly respect these men in the long run when their true colors come out. True fact: Harvey Weinstein was “pro feminist” in the early 2000s. The Kill Bill series was his production.
• Similar to the last point they think dumping out their “toxic” flaws somehow puts women at ease around them. Instead it can validate female fears/insecurities.

Not to say there aren’t true douchebag men out there. They definitely exist. But I do not nor ever will accept collective punishment for their actions. But that really is what modern feminism is all about: stereotypically label all men as pigs and all women as noble. “Equality” through prejudice.

[Anonymous]

Speaking for myself, it is a symptom of having no target or purpose in life; Lost and or devoid of thought.

Lacking confidence is the intermediate symptop, and it goes more to self-hatred.

Especially when those self-haters are thrown to handle extra and sometimes unncessary pressures (either fatuous or irresponsible).

[whistlingwh0res]

I had a friend like that he likes women and he hates all men and he dressed up as a woman sometimes. I don’t really see a good point of his attitude. I mean I used to be a man hater but I am grown up. He always complain about his father mistreated him. He is stupid that he refused to get money from his dad when he passed. It’s so funny after all. I think he is living in a drama. He look for women who are strong and defensive for him.

[Bagerl]

Anyone who hates themself can be very difficult to be around. It's a very negative energy, and most people tend to absorb some of it and feel bad whenever they're nearby. It's sad because it's sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy: the more you hate yourself, the harder it is for others to encourage you to love yourself.

[tzdc21]

A lot of it is due to being raised by those misandric mothers who picked the wrong guys to settle down with and are now bitter about men in general. Not saying all moms are like this, but there's a lot of them who are. And they share those same bitter feelings towards their sons, causing them to hate other men, and by extension themselves as well. Makes them feel ashamed for even existing. And I think that is one contributing factor as to why the suicide rates often come from the male side.

Another factor is that they are just white knights, or simps as they're commonly known today, who as you said are pick mes. They are so desperate for any sort of female attention that they'll go as low as giving out random free comments just for her existing, and making her feel she is the the ultimate specimen, degrading every other man in their vicinity just to get on the woman's good side, and bending over backwards to do things for her at the cost of their own health or respect or dignity. It's pathetic and sad.

[Lynx122]

I feel bad for them often they were raised by mothers who hate men and when you have this kind of "programming" in your head as a child it's super hard to get out of it. I think you should still try but I understand why they have trouble their whole world view and their identity is based on what they were told. And often then when they go through puberty and their sexuality comes out it fills them with guilt and shame because they've been told their whole live that they're wrong. It's very sad.

[Chazmatazz269]

They’re not all “pick-mes”. It’s important to remember that there are a lot of man-hating single mothers raising little boys out there. They’re teaching those kids that their entire worth is based upon their willingness and ability to attract and keep a woman. When you don’t know anything else, you have to be what you’ve been taught to be. Most of those boys are on a path toward unbearable disappointment and confusion. In the end, they’ll either choose to remain on the simp track, or they’ll become jaded men in their own right. Either way, they’ll never be chosen by women. I’m just not sure if that’s what their mothers had in mind all along.

[handsomelad70]

You learn every day, but until I began coming here, the only time I heard "simp" was from my father to describe not-so-bright people.(I was watching "The Simpsons" [whom my father branded 'The Simpletons"} around Christmas 1989, about two months before his passing. Dad walked by me and said,"Watching "The Simpletons," eh, boy?" I said,"Yeah, Dad, I'm watching The Simpsons." He said,"Son, don't get used to them, they're too simple to last long. Thirty-four years after Dad's passing, "The Simpsons" are still going strong. By the way, was O. J. the Simpson the family never mentioned?)

[Anonymous]

There’s a lot of them on this site for sure. They hate every part of societal masculinity that has to do with a woman having more privilege than them. Hate having to pay for dates, hate double standards between women and men (even though we’re obviously very genetically different) hate how taller men get more preference over them. Then turn around and blame “feminism” for their woes, when in reality they just hate being a man.
They blame women, when in reality their self hatred comes from feeling inadequate as a man, not making enough money, not being attractive or out of shape in comparison to other men. They’re usually always short, and socially awkward.

[CriticalCatDad123]

Men who hate themselves are attempting to appease women who also hate men. I guess their way of thinking is “if I agree with her that all men are bad she’ll like me enough to fuck me.” Either that or “if I agree with her that all men are bad including myself she’ll start to like men again.” It’s truly sad that these men are just giving up on themselves thinking it’ll lead to a better world when it’s just exasperating the problem we already have

[handsomelad70]

Hope they receive needed professional help.

[sage2021]

Some men hate themselves for all the bad things they've done to people. Over a lifetime, the hate for themselves grows until it can't ever be undone.

Some guys deserve to hate themselves along with the people that they have hurt. I would hope they have some emotions for continually doing injustices again their fellow men and women.

[ManOnFire]

Funny that a man could be thought of as hating men because he doesn't like everything about them, and thought of as hating women if he doesn't like everything about them either lol. At the end of the day I suppose a man will never truly be able to please anyone.

Maybe these guys had mostly bad experiences in their life with men, just like the women who had mostly bad experiences with their moms and other women. I think no less of them one way or the other.

[bobby_bush_eater]

It's because of 4th wave feminism. We live in a society that celebrates female masculinity while viewing any traditional masculinity as misogynistic or oppressive. Couple this with the fact that this line of ideology is heavily pushed by the education system especially in college where all "intelligent" people are herded towards and it's obvious why this is happening

[Anonymous]

The U. S. is such an incredibly fucked up, self destructive society. What's amazing are how many people in the U. S. actually think they're normal, while swallowing endless propaganda causing them high stress and non stop paranoia, then thinking the rest of the world actually wants to be like them.😏

[_Lynx]

Wow. Needs detailing and elaboration. And in your opinion, what are improving societies then, non self-destructive? Or what is your reference or standards for that?

[Kaneki05]

I don't like men since they don't relate to me and act like men must act a certain way.
A lot of men are also more conservatized in their opinions. I am not.
Girls on the other hand? More align with my views.
It's that simple.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I try to practice self-love and empathy and forgiveness to myself.
I love myself,

I feel myself

and I forgive myself for every time I failed to do two of the former.

[dustybiker2]

They are emotionally damaged due to thinking the world will rotate around them. Find out it won't, so spend the rest of their lives blaming others for it.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

they bought into the idea that hating themselves and letting women gaslight them into submission will eventually get the rewarded with pussy. not gonna lie I was like this myself when I was in elementary always through high school

[MikeTheBartender]

Weak I'd say. But define hatred, I think there's a need to call out men who aren't living up to their best capacity.

[jshm2]

The word you're looking for is "depression".

These are guys who are depressed, and little more.

[Strong_Warrior]

Because feminist women manipulate and wash their brains. Most Men became masochist in todays society

[RiseofArtemis]

Are you refering to men who claim to be feminists? Because those are the only ones I know that hate themselves.

[Dat-Alpha-Lion]

Honestly I doubt any man who hates himself that much would realistically want to be around any people. I think they have the self awareness to realize that nobody wants to deal with their endless misery.

[Anonymous]

I don't get that either. I don't hate anyone. My on critique on men is I wish they'd act more like men. By I don't mean that in a derogatory way. Quite the contrary. I want every guy to be they best version of himself.

[laly520]

they r doing it to attract women

mostly