1. Me Too Movement
2. Fears of Rejections
3. Fears of being Falsely accused of harassment
4. Come off as creepy
5. He's just not interested in you
I would say 2, 3, and 4 would make the most sense. But as I have said repeatedly on GaG and what you have to keep in mind is that women want it to be this way. It is so crucial to understand this. Once you do, everything else will make sense.
Women take pleasure in male suffering especially if it is tied to anything like male loneliness, men struggling to date, or even being depressed or upset that they're not having sex. It pleases them if men are lacking in an area that they feel like they are powerful in. And women know that men worry about being seen as a creep, so they are going to use that worry to their advantage and say it about any guy because they also know people will side with her if she complains.
I understand what you're saying in your post and most of those points are true, however as men we also have to show strength in the face of women's wickedness of today - because many are indeed wicked, and they want and hope to use any weakness, depression, or anger you may have against you.
guys body shame more nowadays
unless you're a hot drop dead gorgeous 10/10
you're basically just invisible to em
unless you're walking around holding a knife
doubt they'll look up and see ya there If Ur ugly
so yeah that's exactly why
they prefer getting their meat online
and hookup with a hoe like ordering takeout
because those unrealistic cosmetic
sex addicted fake hot chicks
are their type now
Also if u have the coconuts in the front
But no peach in the back to reach and grab
They're not taking u home to bed
If they can't even stand to check u out
Totally false and misguided. Men are much more accepting of woman's bodies than other women are.
u Its completely the fear of rejection which is tied to she's not interested.
The metoo excuse is a trash assessment.
Coming off creepy is possible which leads to her not being interested and eventually to fear of rejection.
It all boils down to them not wanting to be rejected, which while valid, is not an excuse to not try. Sure you get rejected (and lord knows I have as well), but you get experience in what works for next time.
As you are not a man, you cannot speak on behalf of men.
I dont need to be one to read what's obvious.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
Fear of rejection has always been there for millions of years. Its not the reason why men have changed their behaviour.
And you personally may consider acting in a certain way due to social pressure to be trash but humans are social creatures concerned about their reputation.
MeToo is slut shaming for men.
*yawn*
It really isn't. It was about women raising their voice about how certain men were victimizing women and getting away with it. Were there a tiny minority of women who lied? Yes. But most of those stories are real and exposed what kinds of things women go through on a daily basis.
Men are just upset their shitty behavior was being called out. If it made you scared, then it's because you were one of the ones doing it. Do better.
Now who's the one slinging bullshit.
This is why women deserve the bear.
At least the bear wouldn't lie about who or what it is...
So go bang the bear. Problem solved.
Nah, I'd rather just be with my boyfriend, who isn't a creep, unlike those who are mad at the MeToo movement because they can't get away with being creeps anymore
Only a tiny percentage of men are actual "creeps". Modern women have such an inflated sense of self that they think 95% of men are "beneath" them, and they aren't afraid to let men know that. Who needs that shit?
Its not that we think men are beneath us. It's that some men (and it's way more than a tiny percentage) have basically primed us to be on guard for sexual deviant behaviors. We have to be more guarded so that we don't become victims.
Define "deviant". Can you even define "man" and "woman"?
Oh, lord. What are you blathering about now?
Deviant is someone who strays from the norm of accepted social or sexual behaviors by the textbook definition.
Basically, breaking it down this. If you are making sexual comments or innuendo and it's unwanted, that would qualify as deviant behavior. Being persistent after being turned down or following someone after they are trying to remove themselves from the situation is harassment and considered deviant behavior.
You and I both know what qualifies as deviant behavior you are just playing dumb or you actually are dumb if you need it explained to you like a child.
As for your second request, I won't even dignify that.
No, the sexual innuendo and comments are only unwelcome if she seems the man to be unattractive. Chad Thundercock can say/do whatever he wants and women love it.
Ah the old incel argument. Now I know what I'm dealing with here.
Ah, the "Incel" argument, which implies all women have to offer is sex.
I can't take you seriously anymore. It's best not to continue trying for your sake.
Oh, for my sake? That's rich.
🤣Fear of Rejection 🤣🤣
Dear it's not FEAR OF REJECTION, It's is RISK OF FALSE PERSECUTION!..
Law Gave Unfair advantage to women, she can make false accusations and also easily play victim card and destroy a man's credibility without proving anything..
Look up Rule 5 the of '48 Rule of power " is
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For a man Reputation is everything.
Men aren't afraid, Men Apply to 50 Jobs and give 50 interviews before they get a Job.
Men go out and Meet other men at Pubs and Trust me each time we Run into a New asshole who would reject our companionship.. and We Shake it off within seconds.. REJECTION Isn't something men are afraid of..
@KrakenAttackin is absolutely Right , you shouldn't try to speak on Men's behalf..
I prefer not taking the advice of incels. They have a skewed sense of reality.
And yes, men are afraid of being rejected by women. I've seen it play out and have seen other men reply with it as their answer to this very question. I've seen men posting for advice on how to approach a woman. Not because he's afraid of being falsely accused of anything, but because he's afraid of being rejected.
Right, men are afraid of women and your power 😏😏😏
Apparently, men are afraid of our power. You try to claim it's about the MeToo movement and how we can claim harassment over a simple conversation. Well, that's fear, buddy. Even if it isn't a thing.
Ok, let me put a fine point on this. Men are logical so they are thinking "risk vs reward". And many men are simply realizing that a relationship is more work and difficulty than reward.
Then those men are going to miss out. They are disillusioned into believing that nonsense.
Approaching people is not hard. You just have to know when the best time to approach someone is as well as being confident. Sure, it may not always work, but I guarantee it will work a lot better than approaching a woman and acting like a creep.
If you want to swear off women because you are too afraid, then be alone all your life. Doesn't affect me in the slightest.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Agreed, woman are simply a numbers game. You did a great Jon outlining why guys should have as many as possible.
Oh, it's you. The guy who thinks he's "high value" and basically trolls women. Don't you have anything better to do besides spouting nonsense?
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 TY for your kind words, are you making the argument that posting on GAG is nonsense?
Your posts are nonsense, yes. You should probably stop posting and go somewhere else where they will buy into what you are saying.
What "nonsense"? I read your posts and you seem insufferable. Who wants to deal with your level of being contrary.
Stop stalking me, bruh.
Just because I don't put up with your kind of nonsense doesn't make me insufferable. It just means your points are shit and I'll call it out. I have no problems finding partners in most cases, so I think more people want to deal with my "level of being contrary" than your incel life.
"No problem finding partners"... yeah, but you aren't married. I repeat, insufferable.
I am married. I'm just poly. I have a wife and a boyfriend, so both sexes like me just fine. This just seems to be a YOU problem, and for that, I say, "Who gives a shit?"
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Obviously they are not nonsense seeing as to how you feel the need to respond. Anything I say regarding this subject is simply based on facts and reality so there's nothing to buy into.
You're right, I should stop responding to your nonsense.
So stop posting because I'm gonna just ignore you going forward.
@KrakenAttackin You could make the argument that relationships only favor women, as outside of sex there is little benifit women bring to relationships.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
"It really isn't. "
Whether its real or faux MeToo is semantics.
Point is that men are under more social pressure not to make moves on women than what they used to be.
The fear of rejection was always there.
If there was any societal pressure it was because those kinds of men were used to harassing women and calling it flirting or trying to pick up women. Now that stuff doesn't fly and women are saying as much and the men are freaking out because they can't get away with it anymore out of fear of rejection.
I've already covered that when asked to define deviant for them, but to repost what I said...
Basically, breaking it down this. If you are making sexual comments or innuendo and it's unwanted, that would qualify as deviant behavior. Being persistent after being turned down or following someone after they are trying to remove themselves from the situation is harassment and considered deviant behavior.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
"Deviant
adjective
Departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behaviour.
"deviant behaviour".
See?
People don't know in advance whether someone else wants them to make a move.
No you have to define it in a manner independent of how desirable it is from the other persons perspective.
I don't have to do anything. I've already described it. If you can't comprehend it and interpret what I've already listed, that's on you, not me.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
However you statements:
"If there was any societal pressure it was because those kinds of men were used to harassing women and calling it flirting or trying to pick up women. "
and
"Basically, breaking it down this. If you are making sexual comments or innuendo and it's unwanted, that would qualify as deviant behavior. Being persistent after being turned down or following someone after they are trying to remove themselves from the situation is harassment"
Also lets revisit the whole fear of rejection part.
According to you men have become less brave overall compared to the past but if that was the case this would be visible elsewhere as well.
Is there a exceptionl lack of men willing to do well paying risky jobs?
And you of course don't have to do anything except live or die but you shouldn't make radical statements in the first place if you are not willing to back them up.
What does men having to do risky jobs have to do with it? That generally doesn't come with a fear of rejection. False equivalency there. They are still accepted at just as high levels as they did before.
With women it's different because what used to work because women were beholden to find a man for support when they became adults no longer have to deal with the harassment or chauvinistic attitudes men carried in the past. Some men have not been able to adjust to that and expect it to come easy.
No, I'm a centrist.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
"What does men having to do risky jobs have to do with it?"
You made the claim that men are now more cowardly than what they used to be but if that was the case it would be visible in other aspects of life as well.
"They are still accepted at just as high levels as they did before."
This contradicts your claim. Do you have anything beyond "Because I say so!" to defend your argument?
I never said men were more cowardly on the whole. I said they are more afraid to approach women now because of that fear of rejection. Please don't add words to my mouth to make your point.
And no, it doesn't contradict my claim because, again, nothing I said had to do with the job market before that. You added that part in to make a point that wasn't even needed.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
You never directly said that men were more cowardly on the whole yes but suggesting that men are more afraid to approach women now because of that fear of rejection heavily implies this.
Its not like the rejection itself has gotten worse so either men are cowardly now as a whole or there is some other reason (s).
It doesn't imply anything unless you are trying to make that leap. Don't read too much into it.
All I said was that guys are more afraid of rejection now from women than they were in the past because women are no longer forced to put up with the BS men in the past would use to try and get a woman.
Now, women can support themselves better off than they ever could in the past. We have better programs to help deal with sexual harassment and assaults. And we have better outlets to report that kind of behavior and shame it on social media.
Some men have to learn to adapt and actually be decent human beings now and stop expecting women just to fall for them because they have steady employment. That rejection causes them to fear asking out women and instead blame women like some people in this thread have been trying to do that I'm ignoring now for their childishness.
@Ez-Bri-Z_v2
Look this isn't complicated. If person A is less scared of X than person B but equally equipped to deal with it then it wouldn't be much of stretch to presume that person A is less cowardly in general.
This is even more the case with a large number of people.
So yes as you don't offer any alternative explanation the claim you now have to defend is modern men is more cowardly.
"All I said was that guys are more afraid of rejection now from women than they were in the past because women are no longer forced to put up with the BS men in the past would use to try and get a woman."
Wait are you suggesting that harassing women was a way to be successful with women.
But that was your takeaway, not mine. Why do I have to defend your stance on it now? This was solely about the dating experience, not an overall examination of men's psyche as a whole.
Successful? Not necessarily, it just had to be accepted as part and parcel of the dating experience. Although I will say that some men use harassment and negging as a form of pickup lines which sadly may work for lower esteem girls. It really shouldn't though.
Also, so that we stop spamming everyone else, would you like to take this to DM's?
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It's women just like this that are the reason. It doesn't matter if she's lost her purse, or her tire is flat, or her radiator has leaked most of the coolant, or whatever - there are women who will scream at you, video you and put you on blast, get you fired from your job, etc. just for saying "excuse me, ma'am?"
You also have this:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/wUe3DMXBx2EThis isn't ALL women for sure, but this attitude is VERY prevalent: he needs to be a top 1% (or less) earner to even talk to me. And, of course, he should be handsome, tall, young, and while he's making this spectacular income, he should also be at home most of the week so that he can entertain me.
I think the women in this video are probably upper-middle-class, but they still have "top of the upper class" expectations. It's pretty ridiculous, and a lot of men are tired of wasting their time on women like this - and believe me, there are lower-middle class and even lower-class girls who have these same expectations.
I meet women like this when I'm out DJing. A few weeks ago, some girl demanded that I get her a free $20 drink, because "they'll give it to you for free because you're the DJ." I didn't know this girl, and it's not like she was going to do anything for me - she just assumed that because she was dressed in a skimpy dress that she could demand anything of anyone, and was pretty shocked when I told her to get lost. But the audacity to insist that I get her a "free" drink just floored me. And it's not the first time I've had this happen, or things like it.
She's lucky that I was working for someone other than the bar, because if not for that, I might have told her how I really felt. I just didn't want to cause problems for my customer.
Ill tell you a true story that both answers this question and the mass murder dilemna.
In the gym i was frequenting a girl would get in front of me to work out on an assisted pull up machine while i was on a tread mill. She would pull her tight work out shorts up and smile at me as she did so. This went on for a couple weeks. I then approached and introduced myself. We exchanged names and she said "Nice to meet you" that same evening i was stalked in the parking lot by a girlfriend of hers that is occasionally her workout partner. She threatened me and said that a gang of military personell would jump me if i ever came back to the gym. I started to carry an armed weapon for protection. After a few days i figured it would be smart to report the incident to the gym. The gym owner decided that the solution would be to kick me out of the gym. I have an 820 credit score and have never in my life been delinquent on any debt. The gym owner who is female refused to shut down a two month contract for cryotherapy. It has already been paid for but every employee in the gym refuses to stop the contract. My bank put a stop payment. The gym is trying to charge me for 3 months after the two month contract paid in full. I was kicked out 3/4 in to the first month.
Any person not in a great state of mind after bring continuously harassed from the equal rights movement is going to finally crack and shoot up the place.
Its not guns its women. Ban women and make them illegal because it will actually solve the problem.
I dont approach anymore cus I've done my time. I tried and failed and I don't really have any interest in dating anymore. I'll still approach for sex when I feel like it, but for the most part I'm just living my own life. It doesn't have to be all about finding a partner.
THIS is likely the biggest reason of all. Modern women si. olu don't add any value to a man's life, and actually present several real dangers.
Seriously, why should we? What actial benefit besides companionship which can be supplied by a friends group would he gain?
Any of the reasons you list could be a part of it, but men in general are analytical and look at the risk/benefit return. Quite literally with the way modern women in the western nations respond, it's more of a liability than a benefit to approach women at all.
It isn't like when nuclear family gender roles were the expectation. Now if a man has to work full time, and take care of 50 percent of all domestic duties and child care and yet be expected to take care of 100 % of yard and maintenance duties and the majority of the household finances with very little information return except massive debt and an 80% chance she will leave him destitute, homeless and childless because "she got bored", what possible reason would he approach anyone for a relationship?
m I see men approaching all the time. In all sort of ways, weirdly, normally, pathetically, politely, amusingly, elegantly, clumsily. Nothing changed, in what I observe.
Speculation: I can hardly decipher what Me Too movement really did, in the context of approaches, but if it could mean that men are being more aware of their behaviours, then I would appreciate it. I would see clear benefits for everyone involved in the subject, including, selfishly, me.
Definitely fear of rejection for me. There's a girl that likes me and she is consistently starring at me. She is really friendly and always smiling when she sees me. Though I just see her as a friend and she asked me if I was her friend. Told her yes so I guess I am in the friendzone.
Single life sucks man. I am tired of approaching women. Women rejected me rudely, pushed me, yelled at me, slapped me for approaching. Life is not easy for men. Why it is men's duty to approach women, ask her number, pay on date, fall in love with women, propose her for date, propose her for marriage, provide her, protect her?
Even if they signal you to approach them. They will still reject you and have the cops call on you for harassment! Be careful on approaching women now. Man
Thanks bro! Yes, I will be careful. I have stopped approaching girls. I wanted to date seriously and create a family. But it's not working. 🥴
No problem. Even if you come up to them asking for directions, they still will call the cops on you accusing you of harassment. Back in the 90s, it wasn't harassment because we did have all this technology like we have now.
We didn't have all this technology back in the 90s*
Yes, I agree with you.
Yea people that are rude right from the start are complete assholes that need a wake up call , there is no reason someone should be rude right from the beginning whether they are attracted to the person or not , I can’t stand people that are that way , like we are fucking mind readers and we know what they are into , someone should not get rude unless the other person doesn’t take no for an answer , then yes get rude , but from the beginning no reason at all. If a girl is rude to me right from the beginning , I will be rude and disrespectful right back to her
@Finchie40 but the question is How do I find a girlfriend?
2 Esdras 16:33 “The virgins shall mourn, having no bridegrooms; the women shall mourn, having no husbands; their daughters shall mourn, having no helpers.”
Isaiah 4:1 4 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
Isaiah 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.
Context
An Oracle Concerning Babylon
…11I will punish the world for its evil and the wicked for their iniquity. I will end the haughtiness of the arrogant and lay low the pride of the ruthless. 12I will make man scarcer than pure gold, and mankind rarer than the gold of Ophir. 13Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken from its place at the wrath of the LORD of Hosts on the day of His burning anger.…
What you are witnessing is Prophecy fulfilling.
Basically everything you just wrote. Me too is a part of it despite what some women say. Men aren’t willing to take that risk. Why would they? A lot of men have given up on western women, that’s why they traveling overseas. If they’re smart they won’t come back either. A lot of men are realizing that a lot of these women have nothing to offer in a relationship.
They are traveling overseas to find victims that don't know yet how to defend themselves against predators. They hope to pull the same tricks as they did for so long with Western women in the hope that those tricks still work and that they can misuse overseas women in the same way they have done it before the law is protecting women a tad better.
@SueShe yes because women overseas as so dumb lol it’s amazing how women seem to think they know how all men think. Men are just tired of putting up w disrespectful women who contribute nothing to a relationship. Stop believing everyone you hear a lot do western women say.
i feel like some of the comments from women here are exactly why guys dont approach them because if they say all this about it imagine what guys must think when we approach y'all and honestly I got no problem with you voiceing what you think but I also think that a lot of women who responded here not all ofc kinda make me nervous that women ik in real life want me to approach them because they dont wanna approach me regardless if they feel the same or not
I also think that women kind of take men approaching them as something normal or expected even and not always but just reading these comments it kinda feels like women expect men to approach first and make fools of ourselves if we get rejected and told where to go
Honestly I do and if someone thinks that’s odd or awkward it’s on them not me. I’m respectful and take rejection gracefully and don’t give it a second thought. EVERYONE faces way more rejection than reciprocated interest.
That’s why finding someone you’re attracted to who returns it is so special. By definition you can’t mass produce something special.
There's simply no reason to anymore. Women have equality now. Women know what they want and aren't afraid to ask for it. And men are waking up to this fact. Why ask a dozen women out and get rejected a dozen times when a guy can just wait for her to come to him. Asking more women out does NOT improve his odds one iota. So why do it?
I just got approached at my job. Today.
The guy was nice, and direct, and didn’t respond poorly when I politely turned him down because I’m queer. If you’re too chicken to approach, that sounds like a you problem.
It's funny how I only see this issue with asking women out online. I got approached all the time in college and still do from time to time.
I only see this huge fear coming from chronically online men. The ones who would never ask a woman out anyway.
They're just terrified of rejection. So they make up bullshit excuses about why they shouldn't ask a woman out.
The man who asked you out, did he go to jail for doing so? Did you call him a creep? Did you spray pepper spray at him?
If no, then he must've been a male model correct? I'm just trying to use all the bullshit made up things they invent in their heads.
So, as a lesbian, who approaches who?
That’s what I get told
It depends on the woman and how she presents herself. Does she seem open and approachable or is she looking non interested and stand offish. I not afraid but I've been rejected by some rude women in the past and that might put some guys off in the future IMHO. I just move on to the next one that appeals to me and hope for a decent person.
LOL, don't be such an incel.
Most men have no real problems approaching women. The ones that do, don't understand how, and think it's everyone else's fault.
That's just false lots of men still approach women.
Why is it most guys can still approach then? Not everyone's a weirdo or coward.
True, and imagine that, the ones that do... No issues aside from rejection.
The only guys that are scared of asking a woman out because they think "I'll be arrested for harassment and false assault charges" are the ones who never ask women out to begin with because it's rejection they fear most. Not some false accusation bullshit. They're just scared women might say no and they'll feel like they're not good enough. Easier to make up a reason why you won't ask a woman out then to just do it.
"Hi, how are you doing today, I saw you and thought you were cute. I was wondering if I could get your number."
That's it. That's not being creepy. Just do that.
But yes, you'll probably get rejected a few times. It's part of life. Deal with it.
The question should be why don't introverts ask women out.
That would be far more truthful.
Exactly. I get rejected plenty, shit happens. Rejection happens a lot, and guys like that seem to make the shit sound like it's a minefield. They always say they "read stories" about accusations and such for asking women out. Yeah, stories, as in bullshit spread online you lapped up like gravy off your dad's dick at Thanksgiving.
No, guys just got mad about the metoo movement because it meant they couldn't treat women like walking sex toys anymore. They loss power and control over us. We all know that's the truth. There were consequences after it. Imagine that, you can't tell a woman her ass looks nice at work anymore. News flash, you shouldn't have ever wanted to do that. Lack of empathy for how we feel. That was the problem.
Majority of these guys spend way too much time online doom scrolling red pill/incel bullshit. They will never even ask a woman out because they believe everything they see online lol. Which is amazing because it actually helps us out as women because we don't have to put up with their garbage ass personality disorders out in the real world. We can actually get real men asking us out instead.
I get approached by guys a lot, I don't like talking to people so I'm not a huge fan, but I don't think it's creepy unless they make it creepy. Like saying "hay baby" or other creepy stuff like that.
I think we're starting to see a change from it being hip to be an extrovert, to the opposite. I think introversion among men is going to rise
We now have people who have never done it as adults , so they don’t know how
I think all of these are excuses to justify being too scared to have a real relationship.
6. He has understood that you are not interested in him.
Why should they honestly? The way most women are now is heartbreaking and going in the wrong direction. Believe it or not. Music and media is to blame on this influence. Respect, Loyalty and Love In that order. With respect coming first. Is all a man needs an in return he will be his best for you. Unfortunately that is all dying away and soon will not exist. So back to why should we? It’s best now days to let her take The initiative.
I'd add women always being on their phones. I don't want to be rude and interrupt whatever she is busy with.
The so-called "gender wars" seems like a probable cause. Men and women competing for childish reasons.
even if the rate of men approaching women continues to decline, why do i get the feeling it will have zero affect on the state of affairs that have always been in place, as in, i highly doubt it will cause women to approach men for once or for women to be the initiators for once, just doesn't seem possible.
All of the above plus it is a woman's duty to make the first by letting the guy know she wants to be approached.
one big reason: the return on investment of my time is not worth it. not even close.
If it helps, I’ve always kept to myself and don’t bother men.
All of the above plus being out on blast for having dared to approach the woman.
Women want to be approached by men, not whiney self-pitying misogynistic creeps.
Just got told that in real life
And to be approached, they also have to be women as well not entitled karen feminists
Exactly
So all those single mothers were approached by "real men", got it.
@purplepoppy. Reported my other comment, eh? So much for believing in free speech.
Careful everyone. If @purplepoppy doesn't like your comment she will report you.
6. your behavior makes you seem like you are not worth the effort
7. there a better things to approach these days
8. you lack conversation skills
9. you are too stuckup
and the list goes on
The second worst of it would be responding in hostility. These foul harpies!
Have you SEEN the unhinged lefties out there? Who wants to risk getting involved with psychos like them?
Because women are most of the time full of shit. A nice guy comes up to them and before they get a chance the girl says she has a boyfriend or some other bullshit.
Todays youth is fucking retarded. Like this crazy girl in the parking lot. Like wtf :D
All of them. Maybe other reasons, too.
Chickenshit, ? emotionally immature. Not self qctualized
The wholse system of relationships is designed against them. At the same time, they can get any form of sexual pleasure on the internet, so why bother.
The drama, rejection, and uncertainty how a we may view them.
My advice
i like men tryna get me even thought if i dont into most of them and dont give a damn. i starting to see less though
I get hit on a lot now by younger girls and when I ask them why they all say the same thing men aren’t men anymore.
they do... :D
And yet the Internet is filled with women complaining about how they never get approached.
@BetaBucks it means they are approached... they just want more... or better :D
@BetaBucks but they ARE APPROACHED, so the question "Why don't men approach women anymore" doesn't correlate with the research you cited...
The question didn't sound like men never approach women anymore, at all, it's more like "why do they approach less?" No one actually believes the question was suggesting that not a single guy ever approaches a single women, under any circumstances, anymore. It's a matter of quantity. Which has for sure gone down.
@islathewitch. Your experience may be different, but research by Morgan Stanley (and a department headed by women), just upgraded their estimate that by 2030, 52% of women will be single.
The number of men/women in society is roughly equal until about age 25. After 25 the number of women increases steadily and number of men decreases steadily. So you have a larger percentage of women, chasing the top 5% of men.
Math wins.
I got rejected and lost any interest and incentive
All of the above can apply, the 5th admittedly less so
1, 3, and 5 are the reasons.
OP said most of it.
Modern women are such a fucking mess. Who needs that?
6. I never meet any under 70.
Probably shyness and fear of rejection.
We do. Men who are jaded.. hurt, do not.
Women want money.
And jungle dudes, too
Well that’s a scammer
Girl know they r sexually secure so they want financial securities
Emotional securities can play a role too. In that case she can find security from older men or poor men
Then why do some women chase older and poor men who have nothing?
Why are you assuming they don't?
Obesity epidemic is probably the biggest factor.
They do. Maybe it's just you.
In my case the approach me
I do.
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