Should we all start pressuring both men and women to work out more and eat healthier?
Why are more people accepting fat women?
Should we all start pressuring both men and women to work out more and eat healthier?
Do you have any actual evidence that body positivity or acceptance is "contributing to obesity" or is this just what you "feel is true" ?
I'm fat, and body positivity and acceptance in my own life hasn't contributed to my obesity. I was obese before that. I haven't gotten fatter because of it. The only thing that has changed is I have better confidence. My parents spent years trying to pressure and negatively reinforce weight loss on me since I was about 8 or 9 years old. They can tell you how incredibly unsuccessful that has been, if you don't have the intellectual capacity to understand that on your own. Pressuring people to lose weight does not lead to weight loss for a lot of people. It only makes them hate the way they look, depressed, anxious, want to stay home, and want to be as invisible as possible. (Because that's what "we don't support your fat body" says to people - "we don't want to see it. Hide." ) And what do depressed, self-conscious, anxious, invisible people in a modern context do? They sure as hell don't go outside to exercise and lose weight. They stay at home, cry a little, and eat some ice cream. Human psychology.
Countering body acceptance (the idea that we should all be comfortable in our own skin and not feel the need to be invisible) means you would be encouraging that invisibility, encouraging them not to be seen in certain lights, which means they may be more susceptible to being ridiculed in contexts where people are working out and allegedly being healthy, which would further exacerbate the problem. This is where you fail, and ironically, body positivity succeeds.
I honestly feel bad for you. I can't imagine wanting people to feel bad about themselves, or wanting people to know that I think they're ugly or something. Because as fat as I am, I'm not THAT ugly of a human being.
People have been pressuring people to be thin for years. Body positivity and acceptance hasn't gotten rid of that, it has just begun to creep up as a potential rival. Plenty of young people still grow up hating themselves and develop horrible self-esteem and eating disorders, in part because society says they should be thin.
If your actual interest is in healthy lifestyles, and not just the appearance of fat, then you would be concerned with people in general. Plenty of thin people don't lead healthy lifestyles. Until you are as adamant about getting my thin roommate to change her primary diet of pizza and coke, I can't take you seriously.
People actually treat a lot of them like shit. Its not an acceptance of their fatness all fat people are people too and deserve to be treated with kindness regardless of their appearance. Some of them might have bad genetics or thyroid problems , also binge eating disorder is an eating disorder just like anorexia and bulimia it just causes people to get fat. And its awful to treat people that way as well considering a lot of people don't have time to cook and can only afford to eat shitty food. Its usually poor people that are fatter. I just recognize that they have their problems and who am I to judge them
Pressuring in a direct manner, is seen as tyrannical and bigotry.
Plus that doesn't work. All you'll get is pissed off people, firing back at you, causing more pissed-off-ness.
Why not "lend a helping hand" instead of using any excuse possible to pass judgment?
Guys are afraid the girl will use her gravitational field to spill their coffee if they criticize any fat girl.
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While it is true that some overweight/obese individuals opt to not follow a healthy lifestyle, you have to understand that some people don't choose to be fat. "What? You must be dense if you believe that". I speak from experience, son. Sit down and let's have a chat.
When i was a child, I was taken care of by my grandparents. My mom was in another country for a while and my grandma fed me a tamale everyday. Why? Because I would ask for it. I didn't know any better, i just knew it tasted good. My grandma came from a generation where food is food. You don't get to be picky and as long as i was fed, she was happy, be it rice or junk food. She also didn't like vegetables and neither did my mom. But why was i craving sweet tamales? I was in a period where my body needed energy for growth and the only thing i knew was sweets from junk food. Now, What does this do to a body? Well sure, gain weight is obvious. HOWEVER, what people don't think about is what imbalances it can bring. High sugar content has been linked to many imbalances in the body, including insomnia, gut bacteria imbalance (really important and often underrated), gut inflammation, diabetes, PCOS, adrenal fatigue and many other hormonal imbalances. Hormones can affect the development of organs, mood, dictate puberty, PMS, and even breastfeeding. See this is a snowball effect. These same hormones can overcome your will power. How? Depending on the individual, once the body senses starvation (dieting or changing food habits) it works it's fastest to retain the fat that it has. It's an evolutionary trait and defense because it feels it's going through the famine period our neanderthal ancestors went through. That's is why you see people have plateaus (there's another reason but i won't discuss that here). I'm not saying that if you are determined you won't lose weight. I'm saying that this is why it's hard for so many people to finish their goal of losing weight. Their hormones take over to stop the famine.
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As you can see, it's not just about calories in, calories out. We're looking at the whole person and what we can do to give them a chance at better weight loss. Once you address the deficiencies or other anatomical problems then we can target weight loss. We can't ask the body for great results if it's not well "oiled". And if it does yield results, how long till these individuals fall off the wagon? We know that more than 2/3 of people who lose weight (this number may be higher), will regain the lost weight and even add on. But no one asks why? Again, deficiences, hormonal imbalances, famine period- but no one is concentrating on that. It's all about calories...
Source of statistic: newsroom.ucla.edu/.../Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832
I disagree with your premise. Fat women tend to be judged more harshly than fat men. Women tend to be judged more harshly based on their appearance, generally speaking, whereas men are more likely to be judged on their accomplishments. Fat women receive more interpersonal mistreatment and institutional discrimination than men do ( www.nature.com/.../ijo200822a.html ).
One study found that fat women are even more likely to be judged as being guilty in court trials, whereas men's weight doesn't have an effect on the perception of whether or not they are guilty ( news.yale.edu/.../body-weight-and-gender-influence-judgment-courtroom ). Another study found that overweight women tend to make less money in their jobs than thin women, whereas overweight men tend to make more money ( https://psycnet.apa.org/journals/apl/96/1/95 ).
You're right that there are body acceptance/fat acceptance movements and that they tend to focus more on women than men (likely because there are far more women involved in these movements than there are men), but I think you're overstating the influence that these movements have had on society at large.
"Should we all start pressuring both men and women to work out more and eat healthier?"
Overweight people already face tons of pressure to work out more, eat healthier, and lose weight, and they are already shamed considerably for their weight. And studies show that fat shaming does not help people lose weight, but rather, increases the likelihood of people remaining fat or gaining weight. journals.plos.org/.../journal.pone.0070048
www.eurekalert.org/.../ucl-sd091014.php
I really hate how because a person is bigger, they just automatically don't work out. Do you honestly ask them do they work out and stuff their face with food? I am a big girl and I can out run/ last longer in activities than all my skinny friends but yet if you look at me, I am consider a low life fuck that eat whatever the fuck I want and don't work out ever.
I didn't mean to downvote. I'm sorry.
Lol its fine
Why do you assume that every overweight woman stuffs her face with food and doesn't work out? Did it ever occur to you that she could be depressed or have a mental or physical disability that makes her put on weight or hinders her from losing weight?
Besides, what business is it of yours if someone is overweight? They're not harming you or taking anything away from you, so get over yourself and your prejudices and leave them alone.
Women are naturally more beautiful to look at and i've seen some men lose their mind over a bigger woman lol. I think it's just because women are more attractive in general, being soft is considered more feminine to some men as well, some men just love bigger women in general.
I agree we should promote healthier lifestyles but I don't think anyone shouldn't be accepted, love themselves or be loved by others just because they have a weight issue.
I guess it's their choice... just worry about yourself
Guilt and shame actually shown to make people binge more.
It's one thing to be chubby, abd another to be obese. I hit 190 last month and was like fuck no... Have lost 20 lbs since and ongoing.
however...
It's ok for grown ups to be obese, but toddlers and kids being fat is definitely wrong.
It is not okay for adults to be obese
Pressuring people only makes the issue worse. People who are more positive about their body tend to lose more weight than those who feel negative about their body.
What's it like to have no life and have time to troll GaG? Honestly?
Poor people? You are a very disrespectful. With the comment you just made. Every one eats fast-food. Worry about your self. Who are you to judge the people. Self Centered fuck.
Would you rather ridicule overweight people? I don't think many of them want to be overweight.
Its a double standard if a women is overweight its oh she must be depressed or she's eating because her boyfriend dumped her etc. But if its an overweight guy its oh he's lazy, eats because he can and likes to eat and is a slob etc? Also its easier for overweight women to get a date than it is for an overweight man.
Oh really? My overweight guy friend has had 16 girlfriends (no, he's not rich. He's actually very poor.) and me an overweight girl has had no boyfriends your argument is invalid.
Trust me you'd get a lot of guys all you need to do is look pretty. But how many times
do you think your guy friend got a yes before being turned down the first time?
no one treats them well. they just tell them they should feel confident so the girls develop fattitude. I wonder if maybe the problem is lack of love which leads to overeating...
Oh, I'm sorry Mr. Six-Pack, I didn't knew I had to make way for you and your huge moral horse.
Most people sadly will always follow the majority.
The majority atm = overweight women.
You're a very hateful person. Maybe you should work on having compassion for people.
i hate that too, being fat is a health issue its not about how someone looks its that its affecting their health negatively
Actually there is research that accepting leads to more weightloss. People do not feel qs humiliated to work out. However encouraging unhealthy eating and behaviour is wrong.
If they want to be fat and die young let them. It's their life.
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