A Texas woman goes to doctor for back pain, then gets interrogated over a miscarriage. Your thoughts?

[Still-alive]

Three weeks ago, I had a miscarriage. I was six weeks pregnant. I live in Texas, a state that has effectively banned abortions.

A thread about what it is to cease to be pregnant in a state where abortions are banned:— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

You can read the whole Twitter thread to see all the details. ill highlight one part for you though:

The doctor asked me about pregnancy, going into consolation mode. They asked me if I’d been trying to get pregnant, if I’d been pregnant before. I told them I had been pregnant, once before.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

“How many kids?” they asked
“None,” I answered.
“Miscarriage?” they asked.
“Abortion,” I answered.
And the conversation shifted dramatically.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

I’d had an abortion when I was 19. Upon hearing that, this doctor in Texas rattled through a list of drugs, asking if I’d taken any of them in the last six weeks. They asked about my activities, what I’d been doing, if I’d intentionally injured myself.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

Intentionally or not, it felt like I’d become a suspect in the death of something I didn’t know existed.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

Eventually, it stopped. They were satisfied that I hadn’t known I was pregnant and induced an illegal abortion in Texas. I left, though not without the fear that because I’d gone for medical help, I’d now be reported, per Texas law.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

I think about if I answered the doctor’s questions correctly, if I convinced them I didn’t cause it intentionally, if my past decision was enough to condemn me in the eyes of the state of Texas.— Janneke Parrish (@JannekeParrish) May 9, 2022

[CrazyGirl2]

I can’t see the twitter thread, but regardless, doctors have to work within the laws, I doubt that you have an issue with doctors asking irrelevant, non medical questions if they suspect child rape/abuse. Its the same thing here. I obviously don’t agree with texas’ law because I am Pro-Chioce, but whether the doctors agree with the law or not they are still required to ascertain whether or not this woman induced a miscarriage which would be illegal under Texas Law! This is no different to the “mandated reporter laws” that when a child goes to the ER with injuries, doctors must rule out abuse, so they absolutely need to ask questions about the child’s home life, how many adult males live in the home, whether they have any teachers they don’t like, and why they don’t like them, etc… so as to make a determination as to whether additional abuse screening and a call to the state abuse hotline is required! This country is a republic, and a federation of fifty states, each with their own completely separate laws! That’s how the founders designed it, so if you do not like the laws, or taxes in YOUR state, you are free to move to another! It beats the hell out of trying to emigrate to a different country. Whether or not you or I like the laws of Texas is irrelevant! The people who live there obviously like the laws, and if not, they are free to elect different leaders to represent them at the state legislative level. Failing that, they are free to move somewhere where the state laws more closely align with THEIR beliefs! Do I think its creepy that doctors are asking about prior abortions, yes. But all the other questions are just part of the normal HISTORY & PHYSICAL that doctors are required to do!

[RolandCuthbert]

Madam, I would like to say that the word Republic does not mean states get to make different decisions about freedoms and rights. We are a Constitutional Republic, meaning our freedoms and rights are guaranteed by the Constitution. I don't understand how people get this wrong. Just google "Tyranny of the Majority". James Madison famously insisted the constitution be crafted in this way. Because he argued that many times the majority gets something wrong. And can terrorize different minority communities.

www.heritage.org/.../preventing-the-tyranny-the-majority

The Founders were determined to forestall the inherent dangers of what James Madison called “the tyranny of the majority.”

"A constitutional republic means that it is one in which, rather than directly governing, the people select some of their members to temporarily serve in political office; the constitutional part means that both the citizens and their governing officials are bound to follow the rules established in that Constitution."

[LovingLoverReturned]

Is she in prison?
If not then she should be happy.

It's normal for doctors to ask lots of questions. They need to know the medical history of someone in order to help.

If she had went to prison now for aborting a child at 19, then I would have seen a problem. Otherwise, no.

[Still-alive]

it was none of there business.. quite frankly

[LovingLoverReturned]

Her back pain was due to losing a baby 🙄 ...

[Still-alive]

uh huh and that had to do with the miscarriage... not an abortion from years ago...

[LovingLoverReturned]

Medical history affects the present.

[Still-alive]

why ask about abortion drugs she's taking right now though?
"Upon hearing that, this doctor in Texas rattled through a list of drugs, asking if I’d taken any of them in the last six weeks. They asked about my activities, what I’d been doing, if I’d intentionally injured myself."

why is this information needed?

[LovingLoverReturned]

Drugs cause side effects. Injury causes side effects... Doctors can also refer people to psychological help. All of that info is be useful. FYI another word for doctor is physician. They deal with the body.

[Still-alive]

but they are asking about abortion drugs she's taking right now... when she had the abortion at age 19.

[LovingLoverReturned]

Yes? To understand the reason for her pain.. faceplam... which is due to losing a baby

[LovingLoverReturned]

She didn't even know why she had pain.. nor that she was pregnant

[Still-alive]

but she didn't have an abortion...

[LovingLoverReturned]

Nobody said she did...

[Still-alive]

so again why ask her about --abortion-- drugs? that assumes she had an abortion.

looking at some of the replies specifically to that tweet i found one that stand out to me.

twitter.com/realEDdoc/status/1523793537472491522

[LovingLoverReturned]

I did tell you. To find out the cause of her miscarriage.

Different causes can have different remedies. And take longer to heel. I imagine self injury would take the longest.

[LovingLoverReturned]

Heal*

[LovingLoverReturned]

Did something once... might do it again.

[Still-alive]

also why ask if she deliberately injured herself?

and do you realize that if she had had an abortion and he didn't report it the new Texas law he could be sued for 'aiding and abetting an abortion'?

[LovingLoverReturned]

People go to doctors to get treated. 🙄 If she has a problem with the doctor being a doctor, she wastes her own time going to the doc.

The doc doesn't have to tell her why she miscarried, he just can ask for himself so he can find a relevant remedy.

Obviously that's why she was choosing to answer... lol

If he didn't give her a remedy. Then she has a sensible complaint

[Still-alive]

hard disagree... but hey you're free to have it. i still feel like there's something fishy going on there.

[LovingLoverReturned]

You disagree that she has a choice to answer.

You disagree that people go to doctors for remedies.

...
Makes perfect sense.

[Still-alive]

i mean i already went over the fishy parts... i don't really buy your answers to it. sorry. just how i feel. This is a state gone fascist over abortions... and had she said anything that indicated she had one recently i totally believe this doctor would have reported her or he faces legal consequences for it.

[LovingLoverReturned]

I don't feel sorry for her either how. It's either her or him 💁‍♂️ ... he probably has kids to care for.. she doesn't...

[LovingLoverReturned]

He goes to prison... or she does. I don't blame him.

[Still-alive]

he may be blameless... but the system is designed to make gestapo's out of doctors down there...

[LovingLoverReturned]

👉 you got that right

[normalice]

In iran if a 13 year old girl seeks an abortion after getting raped by her father she can go to prison for life.

Wait no! I was wrong. Thats alabama!

[SignedAutographs]

Sounds like her personal info became someone elses business

I thought we had a right to privacy due to hippa?

[Cherry234]

Damn. This is insane. Abortion and healthcare in general are human rights and these rights shouldn't be taken away from people. This country is really getting fucked up.

[Still-alive]

yeah its even more fucked up because you could go in for a check up on something totally unrelated to pregnancy but end up being interrogated maybe even charged with a crime cause they somehow find out you had an abortion.

[Cherry234]

Looks like America is regressing. I honestly think the people who are in favor of overturning Roe vs. Wade are on the wrong side of history. One GAG member (I'm not mentioning any names) made a post about it and he's in favor of overturning it since he's pro-life.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

New par for course.

If you're a woman in Texas, just get out. You have no future there.

In ten years, I'd be surprised if women can still vote if the US doesn't see violent revolution tear the established governing systems apart.

Move to Canada or Mexico, where you actually have rights.

[DizzyDesii]

Docs probably assumed she aborted again rather than “miscarried”. Thats why they prob questioned her so much. An abortion can play a part in having back pain afterwards. So they probably questioned if she truly miscarried this time around or if she secretly aborted. Its a disrespectful thing to ask but she went to the doc seeking assistance so im not surprised they referred back to her past records. Its hardly any different from when they ask if diabetes or cancer runs in the family history

[Subarugirl]

She is lucky she didn't get charged with murder, like a lot of women have

[Still-alive]

It's only gonna get worse there... unless somehow they vote Abott out and get Beto o rourke in there to undo all the damage he's already done. he's already set Texas on a course for economic hardship over mexico going through new mexico now instead of them.

[Whatthefluff]

No one's business what somebody decides to do with their life. That's all there is to it.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

[annabananna]

I can’t see the full post.

[Still-alive]

you can just click on the first twitter post to so it

twitter.com/.../1523680953087913985

[annabananna]

Bleh still not working for me but the doctor should stick to her back pain if that’s what she is there for.

[Still-alive]

well its because of the new abortion ruling in Texas now

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

This was something else for sure

[TuxTheAstronaut]

America healthcare moment

[EnglishEuropean]

malpractice