Transgender Is The New Black

[gagTake]

Yesterday Caitlyn Jenner, formerly known as Bruce Jenner broke the Internet when she appeared on the cover of Vanity Fair as a woman. She quickly became a hero in the eyes of the LGBT community and their supporters. But Caitlyn isn't the only fabulous transwoman making a statement in Hollywood.

Andreja Pejic

Model

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Janet Mock

Host of #SoPOPular on MSNBC and author of “Redefining Realness: My Path to Womanhood, Identity, Love & So Much More.”

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Conchita Wurst

Austrian Pop Recording Artist

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Candis Cayne

Actress

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Carmen Carrera

Former contestant on RuPaul's Drag Race and model

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Laverne Cox

Actress on Netflix's Orange Is the New Black

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Lea T

Model

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Isis King

Fashion designer and model

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Jenna Talackova

Model and TV personality

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Ines Rau

Model

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Aren't they gorgeous?!

[MichelleJustAsking]

There is so much more to being a woman than acting out female gender stereotypes. Playing dress up doesn't turn you into a woman, any more than sitting in a garage makes you a car. For someone to think they "identify" with a woman, would mean they would have to know what it's really like to in fact, be a woman. Since they were born with male chromosomes and a male brain, it's scientifically impossible to know what it's like to be a woman; therefore, you can't possibly think you were meant to be one. They are basing their identity on gender stereotypes; assuming that inanimate objects such as makeup, nail polish, long hair and dresses somehow possess female chromosomes and thus turn you into a woman. I'm not saying these people should be shunned or made fun of or made to feel less than human; but we certainly shouldn't be praising them for being "brave". All they are doing by praising transgenders, are supporting gender dysphoria which is a mental health issue similar to body dysphoria that effects those with eating disorders. This isn't some random judgmental opinion, it's backed up by leading psychologists and psychiatrists. These people need our support and help to identity the root of their issue... because no matter how they change their physical appearance, they will always be the same person on the inside. Here is an article written by a well-known professor of psychiatry at John Hopkins.
www.firstthings.com/article/2004/11/surgical-sex

[Eiffelgirl21]

thank you

[TSWIFT243]

I think this is one of the best responses I've read, I totally agree with you! I don't know how they're like "I'm a woman!" Or "I'm a man!"
The only reason they feel that way is probably due to the environment they were raised in or as you said it's due to a mental disorder. If they were truly meant to be a "woman" then they would have been born as one.
And the fact that people are encouraging this sort of behavior just saddens me. What's worse is that they call them "heroes". Smh 😑

[MichelleJustAsking]

Agreed TSWIFT. There was a great article in the NY Times talking about the clash between feminists and transgender activists... and asked the simple question "What Makes a Woman?" Apparently, for a lot of transgendered and those praising them, it simply means living out female gender stereotypes. Yes, we are born with male and female DNA... but life experiences are what shapes "who we are". We are who we are born as.. regardless of outward appearance. Bruce can't say he was meant to be a woman simply because he prefers nail polish or long hair or dresses. Just because you are more emotional or sensitive doesn't make you a woman. There is no reason men can't be emotional or sensitive.

[DaniaMQ]

YES YES AND YES... Ur opinion is the best !!! Respectful AND u know what u r talking about and what should be done... Thank you !!

[My99legend]

Damn PREACH!

[FakeName123]

I have no idea why this mental disorder is hyped as something normal. Let's face it, there is a reason why transgender people still have huge suicide rates even after transitioning - and that's certainly not (solely) because discrimination.

These people suffer from an identity disorder and being someone else - at least physically - seems for them to be the easy way out. The grass is greener on the other side.

And in all honesty - for almost all you can still see the men and it's offputting to a lot of people. Just that barely anyone dares to speak it out, because political correctness is the modern way of censorship.

[vekin]

yes too much political correctness

[bang678]

Gender identity is not a illness

[Remonster]

@bang678 Gender Dysphoria is.

[bang678]

There is a difference

[FakeName123]

@bang678

Gender identity indeed is an illness. It's the futile attempt of being different on a biologica basis. You are either a man or a woman - bar the few exceptions of having XXY or XYY chromosomes and other rare genetical mutations. You are a man or a woman and no amount of useless rhetoric will change that.

What you are talking about is the differences in behaviour. Naturally not all men display all kinds of masculine behaviour as well as not all women display all kinds of feminine behavior. That's common sense.

The problem these days though is that people demand they are whatever gender they wish to be, including tons of made up genders (i. e. otherkins and the likes). This has nothing to do with being mentally healthy, but is at best attention-seeking and at worst a serious mental issue based on self-hate, lacking grasp of reality, cognitive dissonances and/or body integrity identity disorder imbedded in the hope that their mental health becomes upon achieving the other side

[FakeName123]

To add to it: For every working group and society the well-being of the group/society is of the most important.

Instead our culture today is based around hedonism and the focus of the individuals well-being. You can't create a long-lasting and functioning group/society on the basis of the individual though, but the individuals well-being should come out of a working group/society.

All those (gender- & racial-) identity issues solely focus on the indiviual though. We are forgetting the bigger picture by focusing on small fries. The increased amount of decadence and feeling of self-worth made us forget what is truly important. Everyone feels themselves important and want to have others be responsible for their own well-being. That's a fallacy though. The world keeps rotating around the sun with or without us. We aren't important in the grand scheme of things. People should stop putting their own self-importance over the well-being of all and learn responsibility for their own well-being

[Eiffelgirl21]

thank you

[FakeName123]

@ Eiffelgirl21

You are welcome.

[med111]

Are they gorgeous? No. I am not going to pretend they are because it is politically correct. That said, to each their own, and I would never criticize a person for who/what they are attracted to and thus the same courtesy commands to be universal. Be it my opinion, yours, this guys, that girls, etc, etc.

To consider them "the new black" is, again in my view, utterly and totally ridiculous (to say the least). Black individuals, albeit it a very long time ago, were sold by their own people into slavery. There is absolutely not a single conclusion that could be drawn in terms of similarity. On top of that, there also remains a very high end scientific community, despite attempts at censorship, that connect transsexualism with mental illness and have numerous primary sources to substantiate their position.

My position is simple: if it doesn't bother me and mine and attempt to garner an equality PLUS one scenario, then I couldn't care less and more the power to them. However, once that threshold is crossed (in terms of a plus one scenario) and there is an attempt to make correlations that are ridiculous then I simply do whatever is in my power to avoid and not care (regardless of issue).

Bottom line, I don't find them attractive by any stretch of the imagination but that is my choice and my choice should be respected just as much as the opposite. If someone told me they weren't attracted to me I would simply laugh to myself, tell them I appreciate their honesty and it wouldn't bother me (even in the slightest amount). Point being, why would I, you, this guy, that girl, or anyone for that matter, even spend one second worrying about what anyone thinks about them. Life is much better when a person doesn't care what others think (except those who matter to them of course).

Frankly, I am sick of hearing about these ridiculous comparisons as if the gay community has some plight on equal footing as slavery, mass exterminations, and/or anything to that level. The only gay individuals who currently have any room to bring that up are those in the Middle East facing Islam.

[Pinky_Nik]

You really wrote something that long on something you don't understand? The title has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!! The phrase actually originates in the fashion world. The colour Black is always considered chic and popular in the fashion world, so "____ is the new black" means that it is now being considered the new 'in' thing.

[med111]

You must feel unfathomably silly that you just made claim that I did something that wasn't connected to something when it clearly is if you either took the time to understand the clearly obvious underlying meaning and/or had the brain capacity to see the correlation.

That you actually believe I am spouting some type of off color rhetoric about race (in general) is astounding... truly remarkable as I didn't think it was plausible for an adult to be so devoid of simple context and causation. In the future I will remember to add a special note at the end of each statement, just for you, that you may be able to comprehend and follow basic elementary level statements without making a fool out of yourself for not seeing the point...

[lanternhill]

I read your opinion and the subsequent comments twice and I fail to see how @Pinky_Nik is wrong about you relating it to race, since you did specifically discuss race and other mass phenomena such as slavery. Perhaps if you explain again - you specifically related "the new black" to the history of African-American slavery. How are she and I missing the supposed "clearly obvious underlying meaning" in which you correlate it to something being "in" at the moment?
Perhaps I haven't had enough coffee, or perhaps you're responding to a deleted comment?
Also, I agree that being transgender is a mental illness - I just don't understand your argument since you very clearly related it to race rather than "the new black" in a fashion sense, then said you didn't.
Perhaps I'm stirring up nothing. I just hate seeing people being shot down as "having little brain capacity" etc. if it doesn't seem particularly warranted. At least you didn't tag her.

[Pinky_Nik]

@lantenrhill, most of his post points to race in some way or another.. I may not be smart and use big words to try and make someone feel stupid but I can read very well. Thank you for your comment defending what I had said, it is appreciated x

[Pinky_Nik]

@lanternhill

[lanternhill]

@Pinky_Nik I strongly dislike when people, as you said, act smart and use big words to put down others' assumed intelligence. I dealt with enough of the first half in college - people amping up their arguments with big words to take up more time in class. We called it something I shouldn't repeat and could recognize it a mile away. It's ironic because his original point actually had some merit (considering he misunderstood you) but his response to having misunderstood you was an approach that undermined his own credibility as an arguer while trying to undermine yours. The attempt at humiliating you was why I stepped in. I don't care if he makes a fool of himself but transferring that onto someone else isn't ok.

[lanternhill]

Also, I think I just repeated, in a different context, the bar scene from Good Will Hunting. Same school, thank God.
@Pinky_Nik

[med111]

Do you honestly believe this is me using "big words" to put down the intelligence of another? This may come as a surprise to someone such as yourself but there are those who actually use "big words" because they are apart of their vocabulary and it is the manner by which they convey whatever message they are conveying. Regardless, I have very little desire to deal with an issue about race, homosexuals and/or individuals who cannot comprehend simple contrasting statements that produces an elementary level correlation. If those words are too big for you feel free to let me know and I can dumb it down for you...

[Hidden_P]

Leave them to it?

I mean, there are some surgeons out there who can make a man look more womanly than a real woman and visa versa. But, there are bad ones out there too. The bad trannies will always stick in your mind more. It's sadly a leftover from badly performed surgerys that linked "trannies" to "bad surgery".

At the end of the day they should do what makes them happy. I personally would be in a relationship with one but that's because for me I want a child made from love making and natural ways. I'm not against "unnatural" but that's my "wish". My boyfriend is one of the first IVF, I'm proud of him, but I come from an enormously fertile family and it's important to me.

Back to your point and take, it's not a new thing, the new thing is better surgery.

My only wish is they make clear when I call them him or her. I work in retail and obviously they take hormones, they change their clothes. My dad's rule is anything in a skirt you fall madam but is that fair on girls changing to boys? How do you "know" when they have changed or not just got a pixie haircut?

More support is needed for both transgender and how to deal with transgender. I don't have an issue, I just wish I knew what is and isn't okay and when it is and isn't okay to say things.

[Hidden_P]

*personally wouldn't be in a relationship sorry typo

[LauraMarx]

you're a... monster. holy shit

[LauraMarx]

don't speak to me again, ever?

[LeeLFC]

Sorry I think you meant to say something else in your second paragraph I don't know correct me if I'm wrong:

"At the end of the day they should do what makes them happy. I personally would be in a relationship with one but that's because for me I want a child made from love making and natural ways. I'm not against "unnatural" but that's my "wish"

[Hidden_P]

@lauramarx I didn't mean bad looking transsexuals I meant bad surgeons... I don't see what I've said that is offensive? Please tell me? Let people be who they want to be, don't abuse them, but for me I come from a very traditional family. I have transsexual friends with no problems. I made a couple of typos but I don't see what I said you find offensive?
This is what I mean. I don't know what is and isn't okay to say. Transgender (in this country) is so unspoken of I don't know what's offensive or not. Also @leelfc isn't that exactly what I put?

[Hidden_P]

@LauraMarx

[SilenRose]

@LauraMarx Over react much?

[ObscuredBeyond]

A friend of mine who is a former lesbian and is black finds this whole "transgender" thing to be the pinnacle of insanity. Most of these fake transformations will cease to bring happiness to these lost souls the minute the novelty of their newfound vanity wears off.

Choice is not, cannot, and never will be, the highest moral absolute of the universe. By definition, a choice has a consequence, whether large or small. And consequences, by their very definition, have to have a value. And such values, by necessity, imply that duty matters more. Kant 101.

According to this friend of mine, she should be able to bleach her skin and call herself a white woman, and have that be the same thing as being born white. The same fruits advocating transsexualism were calling her crazy for her satirical piece on her "choice," saying that choice does not change reality. But turned around and said it does when defending transsexualism, and were blind to their own inconsistency.

How can programmable preferences be something you're doomed to, but chromosomal assignment be irrelevant and gender be re-programmable? How is it possible for both aberrations to both be true? Do they not contradict the logic of one another?

[therealspencer]

stop being gross lol no one cares about what your horrifically transphobic friend thinks

[ObscuredBeyond]

I see. You cannot argue the fact that the rationalization for this self-mutilating insanity is overflowing with inconsistency and its advocates filled with hypocrisy; so you're gonna make it all about her being "gross" for bringing up skin bleaching to me. Nice ad hominem. Are you bleach-phobic?

[RationalLioness]

Transgender is not the new black because it isn't a race. Such an ignorant comment, especially when those people weren't ever treated as second class citizens are separated by "separate but equal" statutes.

Some of them are pretty to me, yes. But to automatically say you're a WOMAN is inaccurate to me. You're a TRANSwoman... there's a difference. The latter still acknowledges that you made the transformation, but it will also let people know that you are a transgender. I don't think it's right for a lot of transpeople to tell others that they're "wo/men" which will make people think "genetic" when they're getting into relationships. I won't ever forget how one transwoman told her husband that she was sterile when he wanted to have a baby and basically lied to him because she felt her marriage would be over.

... Well yes. It would more than likely be over. Because that's a HUGE lie to tell someone. It's almost as bad as not telling someone that you've been sexually active with that you have HIV. It's deceiving.

Anyway, good for those transwomen.

[Remonster]

It's an expression, it's not a racial remark at all. Lookup "is the new black definition" and you'll understand. That's you being ignorant, sorry.

[RationalLioness]

It's you being stupid, fool. That expression is stupid as well. It's been used to refer to race issues just as homosexuality had been before. And black never goes out of style.

Go be stupid somewhere else.

[cipher42]

Why should they not be called women? Woman/man are terms for gender, not biology. Perhaps people should stop simply assuming someone's gender identity and sexual orientation. It's not someone's responsibility to tell everyone they meet that they're trans, cisgender, whatever, particularly considering how dangerous it is for transgender people to be out. Besides, don't you understand that forcing transgender people to identify themselves as something other than the gender they are is still harmful, and still working against societal acceptance of these issues? What you're suggesting is entirely counterproductive.

[Pinky_Nik]

The phrase actually originates in the fashion world. The colour Black is always considered chic and popular in the fashion world, so "____ is the new black" means that it is now being considered the new 'in' thing.

[Remonster]

@RationalLioness First of all you're rude as fuck and second of all you really aren't all that rational if you really believe that "x is the new black" has *anything* to do with race. My god...

[RationalLioness]

@cipher42 The "woman" terminology is already insinuated within the term "transwoman". What's the point of having the latter word? It still acknowledges what they believe their gender to be but it also tells others that they're not genetic women.

When people say "wo/men", they're not thinking about transgenderism. They're assuming that the person was naturally born that way. That is why.

No, it's not their responsibility nor do they have to, but if they don't, they shouldn't get offended when people don't want to associate with them for whatever reason. Also, no. It's not harmful unless they try and get into a relationship with someone else. And of course it would be dangerous then---many guys are lied to and ANGRY about it. And they still consider the transwoman--who biologically is still a MALE--to be a man. What I'm suggesting is honesty, not lies. It's sensible. Maybe you're not.

[RationalLioness]

@Pinky_Nik: Go back a few years to when homosexuality was still demonized in the West. People associate their struggle with what blacks have went through and I've heard people doing it to transgenderism. I understand the association, but it's inaccurate when it's used that way. I assumed this topic simply reiterating it.

@Remonster: Go blow. You're clearly retarded. Black never goes out of style but "everything that becomes the new black does" So that phrase is as stupid as you are. You're also demented or living under a rock if you've never the racial expression being used to compare another situation. I also wouldn't have to be rude if dumbasses didn't come onto my comment and try to tell me things that I have from first hand experience seen and heard being said.

Again, go be retarded somewhere else.

[Prof_Don]

Wow in my 5.5+ years being on GaG, I've never seen this much hate, intolerance and bigotry. So sad people are so SCARED of something they don't understand, to the point of rejecting it with hate.

in my opinion being non-hetero is a genetic mutation (which is natural; oops there goes the 'LGBTQ is unnatural' argument).

Similar to a person being born with mental handicaps, physical deformities, or animals born albino. Genetic mutations happen naturally, in all organisms.

Pretty much a transsexual person's emotional and psychological makeup (aka their. gender identity ), is a mis-match with said person's anatomical makeup.

This has nothing to do with sex or being "kinky". It is solely about said person identifies themselves.

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Now what I feel makes people most uncomfortable about trans-sexuality, is the fact that one's internal genetic identity can't be "proven". Aka, someone can "pretend to be transsexual" and there is no definitive way to "prove" the genuine-ness of one being transsexual. Other people just "have to believe their word" about being born in the wrong body.

In the case of Caitlyn Jenner, because of her (formerly a his) affiliation with the Kardashian machine, many people don't believe her as being genuinely transsexual, and see this as a publicity stunt.

[Bards]

Haha thats people xD its disgusting by itself

[Anonymous]

The comments on this Take are disgusting, seriously. I didn't know that so many bigots existed. Also, the title of this take is kind of insulting too. Being transgender isn't a fad, nor publicity stunt. It's what these people genuinely feel like. To me, gender is way more than chromosomes and genitals. If these people feel like they were born a women (or man, as girls think they are), then so be it. You may think it's wrong, or whatever, but your opinion doesn't affect what they're going to do with their life. People tend to dislike or not understand things that don't fit what they perceive as "normal", this goes for all things that seem out of society norms. Then again, what is normal, or natural? If aliens existed, would they be natural? There isn't an exact definition, is there. What I'm saying is that even though some can't accept the fact that people feel different, doesn't mean that it isn't going to go away. Why should they hide their real selves just because it offends you? You can choose to accept it if you want, but that doesn't give you the right to belittle and bash them for their choices.

[Homey14]

Normal is being who you were born as. Bruce Jenner was born a male and no amount of reassignment surgery is going to change that. Bruce may feel like a woman on the inside (and I don't doubt his feelings are real) but how you feel shouldn't always result in you changing your appearance. Bruce is a man and a man who has kids. To deny them of their father is truly selfish yet no one talks about that. It's all about him right now.

[Opinion Owner]

They accept him, though. I saw the daughter post a kind tweet about her father the other day right after his transformation. Then again, if someone wants to change their gender, then it's none of our business.

[Homey14]

It's none of my business to the extent that it's his body and he can do to it whatever he decides to do. I don't consider him or any other transgender person as anything other than what they were born as. Bruce Jenner=Man. My issue is the normalization of this type of behavior and the rewriting of social and biological norms. Good God, everything is being redefined and changed from its original purpose. Nothing is sane about this.

[blondfrog]

I know I am gonna get a lot of hatred for this, but my big two problems with it are 1. I don't like how they don't have to come out and tell their partner they are transgendered there are guys out there and women out there who would still be willing to date a tranny so the first thing before a tranny gets intimate is tell their partner they are transgendered. Number 2. science hasn't come far enough in order for you to get the full effect of being the opposite gender if you are a man and want to become a woman you can't get pregnant and you can't have your periods so your not getting the full experience and if you are a woman who wants to become a man you can't produce sperm when you cum. Science has not come far enough to be able to do a surgery like this I mean plastic surgeons still have trouble mastering something as little as a nose job just look at what happened to Michael Jackson and other celebs as well as not too long ago Lindsey Lohan look how messed up she looks cause of plastic surgery now and those people were famous and the surgeries still failed.

[blondfrog]

*And those people were famous and rich

[smexyysludge112]

Umm, transgender usually do tell people that their trans. It's not something they tend to hide. I'm not trying to argue but i just thought that you should know.

[blondfrog]

Oh okay then, but it should be a law where they don't tell the other person could press charges on them or something @smexyysludge112

[smexyysludge112]

I don't think it's that big of an issue that it should be a law, but I see where you are coming from.

[TadCurious]

I don't think we should celebrate what is in reality a deep mental disturbance. The fact that these individuals believe themselves to be another gender does not make that so. The cells in Bruce Jenner's body will remain fully loaded with Y chromosomes. I feel for his children and his wife. The surgical mutilation Jenner and others like him have had done, or plan to have done, is grotesque, and should be considered unethical in the medical profession. Bruce Jenner needs help and compassion, not celebration of his disorder.

[therealspencer]

*Caitlyn, *her, *herself, *her, *Caitlyn, *her.

Fixed it for ya! You're kind of an asshole, but you may not understand what "transgender" is. I suggest you research it!

[Eiffelgirl21]

thank you. I hope you never change <3

[OlderAndWiser]

@therealspencer These issues constitute matters of opinion and it is quote arrogant of you to be telling other people that they are wrong, especially since you are only 14 years old, you don't yet have a driver's license, and it wasn't that long ago that you were having your diaper changed. If you are so smart and so right about everything, why don't you go negotiate a peace with the radical Islamists (and I wonder if you will criticize me for calling them radical Islamists?)

[therealspencer]

@OlderAndWiser I don't have any problem with you calling them radical Islamists. Every group has a group of radicals. Radical feminists, radical conservatives, the list goes on. Anything that's radical is too much. I apologize if I came off as arrogant, I'm just trying to inform more people of what transgender is. Trying to stop unnecessary hate in the world. I may come off as a little forceful, but that's my personality, and I apologize.

Opinions can be wrong. If you choose to share your opinion you can't expect people to agree with it all the time, there's gonna be consequences.

Someone being trans isn't a matter of opinion. it's what someone is, and there's nothing wrong with that. If someone thinks it's disgusting, I'm gonna stand up for the other person. For example, I was born with a birth defect. If someone started making fun of me for that, I will stand up for myself and call them out on their BS! It's something I can't, and won't change.

[therealspencer]

@OlderAndWiser also, I love your username. It reminds me of the Sound of Music. Great show.

[TadCurious]

Here is a link to an article on this issue written by the former chief psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital:

www.wsj.com/.../paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

[Minxxie]

Conchita Wurst is NOT trans lol he just wears dresses he's even said in interviews that he's not transgender. And being transgender is not the "hip new thing" it's pretty sick of you to say that. NO ONE would choose to go through something so frowned on by society and be mistreated and more likely to be a victim of assault or murder just because it's finally being represented in media. There have been transgender people ever since there have been people! This is just the first time in history that our media is admitting they even exist. The first gender reassignment was done in the 1930's!! That procedure also lead to more discoveries in how to fix people's faces after they'd been nearly blown off in war. This is nothing new even if it may be new to you.

[LauraMarx]

mmhmmmmmm yeah exactly

[RedThread]

Great answer as usual +1

[pbracing33b]

These MEN need mental help. It is a CHOSEN lifestyle. They are not a race, they chose their lifestyle. Why should they get special rights, when we have people of other racial minorities that are being stifled. While yet these few people celebrate their sexuality, we have people in poverty, we have people being shot unjustly, we have murders that go on unsolved, we have sex workers who are treated like second class citizens and people think it is totally ok to rape, beat, mutilate, and more, and yet somehow we give attention to these MEN and this small group of people, but yet we do nothing to help others who truly need it.

[vishna]

I'm one of many people who advocate for both transgender people and the rights of minorities and the impoverished. It's definitely possible to do both.

[MoonlightWolke]

No they don yt? Need mental help because being gay or transgender is not a mental disorder

[mikedavis33b]

@MoonlightWolke I think u need mental help! lol U need to go pop that zit that's on ur face. lol Ur not even old enough to vote or drive, and yet u want to tell what people should do on here. When in fact gays are just despicable people, who have a mental disease. Yes it is a mental disorder PERIOD

[MoonlightWolke]

heh i know im not old enough for that shit but hey i live with mental people, i know of mental people, i am conciderd mentaly unstable becuase of my suicidal outbreaks, and major depression. lol yes thxs for the info on the zit. And how are gays despicable people? how sure there going against god for it is a choice to go with religion, god is not our king, we are not his slaves, and how do we have evidence on how god even exsisted? It is just a theory that god is real or not.
NO being gay is not a chosen life style, guys can be straight yet have a crush on a guy or just think he's cute. GOODNESS it is not a mental disorder, and if it is give me all the info you can on how it is!

[MoonlightWolke]

being transgender is a chosen life style

[Northeast106]

pbracing33b I consider transgender elective surgery, as unnecessary self mutilation. Maybe these advocates should google before and after surgery photos, and understand the hormone therapy they have to go through to continue being the opposite gender. Medically speaking, it is risky and needless.

[Northeast106]

@pbracing33b

[pbracing33b]

@Northeast106 I totally agree with your statements, they are CHOOSING to be a FAKE woman. Plus the risks are great and there is truly no way to completely to become a women, bc u still NEED all of the woman parts. Which doctors will never be able to replicate the whole entire reproductive system.

Plus I know from recent articles that if a man find out that they are a MAN, they have a high RISK of being beaten to a pulp. Which I really can't blame a guy for doing this, bc we feel like we are being duped. I however don't condone this type of behavior, but I know for a fact IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

[Eiffelgirl21]

i agree with you

[Klara-Hitler]

It is funny. Because some transgenders periodically feel like women and periodically feel like men.
Maybe some of them should go to classes and try to find peace with one side instead of spending too much money to change their appearance.

other than that I do not care. and I don't want to be shamed if my common sense said to me "this isn't a woman" when I saw a transgender.

you say "Transgender Is The New Black" and then say "Aren't they gorgeous?" in a hypocritical way like if I now don't say they are gorgeous and accept them as real women I am going to be considered prejudiced.

no you can't force to anyone what they like and don't like. You will respect what I like and then I will respect what you are and want to be as a human.

for me these are gorgeous.
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[Remonster]

Are they a MtF and FtM couple? Or?

[Klara-Hitler]

@Remonster they are normal heterosexual people.

[Remonster]

Really? The guy kind of looks womanly.

[Klara-Hitler]

@Remonster he is cute. I don't see anything womanly he is proportionate.

[Anonymous]

I'm all for people wanting to be happy and true to themselves, BUT one thing I hate is that it's feeling like it's being forced down our throats in society to accept people like this. If someone has a problem with the whole transgender thing, don't push it down their throats to force them to like them, it's just like when you walk down the street and smokers, junkies, and who ever else you judge are given the dirty looks. Just because something is becoming more socially acceptable, doesn't mean everyone has to agree for accept it.

[bang678]

Yes but there also a difference between keeping your opinion To yourself and proclaiming that all transgenders are disgusting and going to hell

[Remonster]

This wave of political correctness and unlimited acceptance will be our undoing, I sometimes fear.

[HandsomeRaj]

I'm just glad we are at an era where it's possible for people to be what they were designed to be in heart and mind :)

Look at these girls, it would be cruel to let them be stuck in a male body which luckily the current era and laws support the change.

Whichever way the ratio of males v/s females in humans is skewed globally with 101 males to 100 females, this is good :)

Oh yes they are gorgeous :) While those that call it gross are just those who are dwelling with fixations (that again is natural)

@confusedgrocer - check this out young lady. See by what I mean when I answered your question? I'm in the minority out here too lol errr I think the only one who thinks this way ha ha

[ConfusedGrocer]

I've already seen this, but the horrible internet connection in Silivri didn't let me see the pics. I see them now.

Just wondering, you're 44. Why are you still there? (or are you?)

[ConfusedGrocer]

I loved Laverne Cox on OITNB. I had a feeling she was trans but I wasn't sure

[HandsomeRaj]

@ConfusedGrocer you mean why am I still in India? If yes then cause there was a time when I could migrate but chose not to (2) As on date since over 2 decades I am in a position where I can't be screwed around with ;) (3) I am well traveled all across so it's ok :D

[dolphiny]

i really can't believe the comments on this mytake. you people are fucking atrocious.
being trans isn't really a fad or "being the new black".
it's been a thing for a long time, and now that celebrities or people who get attention from the media are coming out as trans, it's blowing up and people are making a big deal out of it. just like anything else. just like a few years ago whenever miley cyrus started acting crazy. or the kylie jenner challenge, emojis, excessive vines, and internet memes. people are just making a big deal out of it because that's what they do.
i don't really have any comment on the whole situation. they're human beings and they should be allowed to feel comfortable in their own skin. as far as i'm concerned, they've done nothing to harm anyone or anything just by coming out as trans.
thats all.

[vishna]

Early in fetal development changes occur that once started can not be stopped. And these changes in the brain affect people for the rest of their lives.

The easiest example of this is:This is why pregnant women shouldn't touch testosterone creams, because it can destroy her daughters GnRH surge center, forever making her brain slightly more male. Her slightly more male brain will now shape her to be slightly more male.

Things happen to people in the womb that can't be reversed and it's not their fault, it's not disgusting, it's just who they are and how they were born.

By the way, Ines is so gorgeous. And Carmen's figure is out of this world. These women are all beautiful and BRAVE for being who they are in such a harsh world.

Even in cattle, if a boy twin is present with a girl twin she will be more male; her vulva will be ill shaped for mating and most often she is not fertile, she is often shaped differently than the other heifers.

[babyqurllll]

I love that she is finally being herself! People just don't understand what it's like being the person in the situation. I don't either, though I have a friend who is going to transition to a guy. They feel trapped in the body of the gender that they were "born as", and frankly, they should do what they want! It doesn't concern you.

However, Caitlyn is not a hero, but a role model. She can be seen as a role model for her braveness in embracing her true self. But a hero? I don't know what you all consider heroes, but I would consider a man or woman fighting for my country a hero. Not someone living their life.

[Homey14]

Well your right about Bruce not being a hero. He's no role model either. A role model is someone who sets an example to others on how to live life and passes on a legacy that others can learn from and emulate. There is nothing that Bruce is doing that is worthy of emulating.

He may feel trapped in the body of the gender he was born as but that is what he was born as. We all have struggles and sometimes don't feel comfortable in our own skin. That just means we have to love ourselves for who we are and accept ourselves the way we are. Bruce needs to do that for himself and not try to change what he is which is a man.

[Snorkasaurus]

Ow c'mon people, no harm no foul. And being offended isn't the same as being harmed so please drop that argument too. I think, as long as these people are upfront about them being transgender then it's okay. I they get the same amount of respect like everybody does.

In my country though there are a few cases where the transgenders hid their true identity AND GETS MARRIED! :-o Their spouses are shocked. As far as i know though the cases in my country is about women having hormone injections and whatnot to become men. A whole new meaning to the phrase 'grow a pair'. :))

[LostSouledGirl]

That's not gorgeous, a lot of plastic surgery going on. And Bruce Jenner? Seriously? 65 years later? It's kinda stupid of him, to be honest, because there are a lot of people who are actually struggling with their sexual identity at very, very young ages.

[therealspencer]

Beep beep! Sorry, I think you meant "Caitlyn" and "her" :-D

[Eiffelgirl21]

@therealspencer
beep beep no, she meant him and Bruce. Plastic surgery does NOT change someones gender.

[therealspencer]

@Eiffelgirl21 Except Caitlyn didn't change her gender. She was always a female. She changed what she was like on the outside through plastic surgery so she could feel better about herself, and so more people would see her as what she is -- a woman! :D

[Eiffelgirl21]

@therealspencer
so having a penis means you're a woman? wow didn't know that !

[therealspencer]

@Eiffelgirl21 except penis does not always equal man. vagina does not always equal woman. Your gender identity does not have to match your genitals.

[pbracing33b]

I agree with @Eiffelgirl21. To this just proves that this is messing up a young generation who is already so confused about sexuality and you got people who have no clue what they are until 65 years later. Hmmmm, me thinks he just might have some mental issues. js

[Eiffelgirl21]

@pbracing33b
thats what I said too. thank you. I am glad you have some brains :)

[Liveyyy]

I watched an interview and supposedly he's been struggling with his sexual identity since he was very young. I mean back in his 20's he literally won gold in the 1976 Olympics and was said to be the greatest American athlete. He did that to prove to everyone his masculinity. But obviously nothing changed for him and the only reason he didn't get the surgery earlier was because he didn't want to disappoint his kids

[pbracing33b]

@Eiffelgirl21 ur welcome, some people just have no clue and wants to believe what the media tells them to be correct, and their inner circles. Prob is this has ALWAYS been a mental issue, and it will never change. No guy or gal in their right mind will want to choose to be with the same sex PERIOD!

[pbracing33b]

Or want to be a guy or girl!

[therealspencer]

@pbracing33b i like guys. girls, and trans people so. i guess i break all your dumb rules for being "sane." lmao.

[aniemist]

People fear and lash out and what they don't understand , especially if it is different than what is considered normal to them. It is easy to say I don't get this, I don't understand and just dismiss it without much thought.

But what if you were in their shoes? What if what was normal to you was found to be odd? would you just conform to society's views or would you instead have the courage to say what you felt?
You may find people who are transgender strange, but they had the courage to not lie to themselves about their own feelings knowing full well the reactions many people would have towards them. Could you do that?

Nobody can make you understand something that you don't want to, how much each person opens their mind towards things is up to them, but if more people did this world would be a much richer and happier place. At the very least I hope people can respect that this is who they are and lay off the hurtful remarks.

[dontmesswithmeplease]

You know whats really courageous? Dealing the cards life dealt you. Not getting plastic surgery to become a fake person.

[aniemist]

sorry you feel that way , but it not really that simple either, if people only dealt with the cards life gave them there would be no founders of the US, there would be no success stories about people who started with nothing and became rich, obviously transgenderism and business are two different things. The point is sometimes in life you have to reject the hand you were dealt and go for what you believe is right, I just think that is what transgender people are doing.

[EtherBot]

I kinda find it pitiful. And I don't mean that in the way that a evil British overlord says to a fallen hero..

("YOU PITIFUL SWINE!!!")

I mean that it often happens to people who felt that they were "Feminine" based on what society said was masculine. And it just... it makes me sick.

Like, everyone's going around saying that expectations don't actually make people feel worse of themselves but there are people who feel so shamed by what society tells them their gender needs to be, that they CHANGE their gender.

It's kinda sad isn't it?