It's ironic that what you ask as a hypothetical question, actually happened to me. The intruder was a bit larger in mass than me, he had a pistol, and smashed in my door like kindling. If I hadn't been asleep, dead to the world, I might have had the good sense to grab my phone, my fire resistant safe, lock myself in the bathroom, and dial 911 while opening the safe and removing the trigger lock from my weopon, so that I could wait for police while the intruder finds nothing of value unsecured and leaves, or does the same thing to my bathroom door he did to my front door, necessitating a bullet wound or two in his thigh or shoulder to keep him from doing too me what he did to my doors.
Unfortunately, I "was dead asleep" when he broke in, disoriented and reacting to percieved enemy encroachment of my perimeter (flashbacks and shellshock or PTSD persist too this day, though less frequent than a couple decades ago) with no clothes, weopons, or light to see by, I was confused about location and deployment criteria, situational awareness non-existent except that someone had penetrated my perimeter, was inches away from me, and the glint of a Chrome plated sidearm was right in front of me when coming out of my bedroom.
An upper palm heel was an automatic reflex do too tens of thousands of house of repetition and application in combat, and he was dead before he's ruined nose hit the tile floor.
Unfortunately, the choice your hypothetical intruders give us in this scenario was not available to me, or the time to accurately assess the situation and determine the best course of action. If I'd been wide awake with my weapon in my hand, he would have survived with only a very large puncture wound to a non-vital part of his body. I was naked, afraid for my life, and responding to a lifetime of training and combat deployment experience to survive an uncertain situation with only my naked body to defend myself with against an armed intruder, and I wasn't taking any chances by letting him live long enough to take my life from me.
In answere to your question, with violent antagonist indicating a willingness to maim or kill, giving no reason to believe they intend to let the occupant of the home live to notify authorities or I. D. them, I would likely respond the same way to an equally uncertain, unsafe, and unequal confrontation with violent strangers who have the will, and capacity, to end my life without any hesitation or conscious effort on their part.
If you live in the US, buy police grade pepper spray or mace. It's also legally binding, so you can't get charged with manslaughter or anything.
I would suggest a taser or stun gun, but they're not that effective, not even on women. When adrenaline kicks in, you can shrug off a taser. And the more clothes one is wearing, the less effective it'll be. If the pepper spray won't work, then a baton might be your best bet.
You CAN use a gun, but it's high risk if you're not regularly practicing with it. Plus, they could try to charge you with manslaughter or a bunch of other bullsh*t for using one. Even rubber bullets are seen as bad. Like responsible gun owner will tell you, you pretty much only use a gun if you intend to kill something or someone, and that's what the prosecutor will try to argue in court. I LIKE guns, but I know the court system is rigged with a lot of BLM type, most-likely-Democrat assholes.
I would use a gun with rubber bullets personally, but that's only myself. My glock back home has a laser sight. Damn I miss the shooting range.
DO NOT ATTACK ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE GUNS IN MY HOUSEHOLD.
Bucket of water. Some flour. A mop to hit. Maybe throw my empty wine glasses. Be old-school, kick the guy in the freakin' balls. I've played soccer for 4 years. Done gymnastics for 10 years. I got powerful legs.
You're hired
good luck you'd probably get raped and murdered all because you dont own a gun š„ŗ
@Oppressed_Leecher - where's the punch line š
what punch line?
only way for a girl to defend herself against man during a home invasion is to shoot him in the face
I have a home made bat it has nails through out it. A whole can of whoop ass. I make all my weapons, I'm not a force to be reckon with!!
Awesome I find making your own weapons is better way to go, it's shows creativity & sanity š
@johnsmithjs Mine are registered with the State of New York. I still also hold military status with them.
@PaynefulPleasures It would be really easy for me to make a Brazilian Grade Sub Machine Gun. SMG's are piss easy to make.
@PaynefulPleasures How much do you value your walls?
I have a lot of acres š
@johnsmithjs www.wearethemighty.com/.../ myth, though some gullible martial arts students have been sold "certificates" .
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Soon as the second guy came out of the woodwork, you truly knew he was fucked. And the guy must have known.
I would have knocked the first guy out before it ever got to that stage. You have to do it straight away because it's the only viable way to deal with multiple attackers. If they've violently entered your home all reasonable doubt has left the building and you're in a fight for your life situation. That whole episode illustrates how vital realistic self defense classes are, and keeping one's training ticking over.
In that scenario I wouldn't have needed weapons. Both of them would be unconscious. Although if they have weapons then admittedly I'm fucked and at their whim.
There does always seem to be an American paranoia and an acceptance of quite a high level of baseline violence there. Perhaps I am being naive, but I don't think it's quite as bad here. Obviously, it depends where you live. The broken society needs addressing as much as any self defense measures.
Range shooting pistol. 6 rounds.357. They would be laying down in a pool of their own sauce within seconds. I'm a fairly good shot, surely won't miss within a 10m range.
Alternatively wooden training sword. People underestimate the stopping power of a bludgeoning weapon way too much. They don't cut and you don't bleed, sure. But a well balanced weapons such as a training prop can make you bleed internally or break bones with extreme ease. Either way, unless they don't manage to take me out, none of them is going out vertically from my abode.
I got a strobe light, an air soft gun, plenty of knives which I do know how to throw, I have 2 dogs that will attack, even my cats aggressive if someone isnāt known... I can grapple and throw from wrestling in high school, Iām also in the middle of a āspring cleaningā right now so trip hazards, and Iām used to my apartment so i can walk it in the far as Iām a night own sleeping during the day and save on light bills.
I also know what happens when you mix WD-40 with a fire starter... bring it mfer!
I have many layers of security - some obvious and some not - but they are designed to discourage such behavior, or at worst, slow them down and ensure I have plenty of notice. The whole house is a deterrent.
Chances are very low that it would escalate to guns, which is good, because I don't need, and certainly don't want, those kinds of problems. But if it did go that far, well, I used to compete in pistol and rifle "practical shooting" competitions, and frequently placed. Not many criminals would be ready for that.
If someone broke into my home, I would kill them.
There would be no āforcedā to defend myself. The deaths of the intruder, or intruders, would be an automatic response.
Thanks to years of devotion to Shotokan karate, I do not need a weapon to kill.
If, however, I was able to reach one of the weapons that are concealed about the house that would make my task easier.
After the job had been done, I would drag the body/bodies to the pig pen and let the pet pigs carry out disposal of the remains.
Police involvement is something that I would wish to avoid, so there would not be a call from my end.
I live in a rural area. No witnesses, nobody to hear anything.
At first light I would go looking for their vehicle and dispose of it.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it fallā¦..
We have similar ways.
I can fight bare-handed. However, we have several firearms, swords, tasers & stun guns as well. Otherwise, athletic and/or household equipment such as baseball bats, golf clubs, kettle balls, kitchen knives, tools will help. Our dogs are also dependable. Worse comes to worst, I can fight bare-handed.
I have already used my trusty right hook , followed by knee to head = KO , after ambushing a scrote that was hovering around my back patio area several years back... a screwdriver fell out of a pocket after he hit the floor , so had the intention of attempting a break in. Ex British Army and years of experience in several combat arts / sports. Do have 2 police type batons, believe in using blunt force , best to KO them , rather than puncture them with a blade. UK , so firearms are illegal for civilians.
Ain't no American so I'll have to be creative but i do have options, i can go wooden coathanger in one hand and axe bodyspray in the other, i have this small wooden plank from my bed with a cord around, I've got the top half of a broom then i can use as a spear, I've got a belt laying around most of the time, i even have some nails in my closet from when some stuff broke and i think i can make a knuckle duster out of it, i can use my blanket as a distraction, i also have small weight bars (weight can be removed) and they are kinda heavy on their own, probably have a couple more options but those are the main ones i guess.
On the bedroom wall is a small sword and a parrying dagger. Office has a longsword and a bow. Living room has a rapier. Forge has hammers, tongs and probably a hot piece of steel. Shop has whatever sword Im currently working on, screwdrivers, drills, etc. Bathroom has a cut throat straight razor. Kitchen, knives. Gym, barbells weights and practice swords (rattan still hurts like hell) Only room I wouldn't be covered in is the dining room but its right next to both the kitchen and the living room.
Well I have my revolver that I always keep on my person so as a last resort I'd be relying on it to defend myself in a situation like that.
What if your person isn't around when you need him/her?
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@Oppressed_Leecher Thanks man
thanks for what?
@MCheetah yeeee!
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I remember hearing about that. Right in my city and I think I live somewhat close to the home that it happened to.
Every knock and person that comes to my door will be treated with and looked upon with suspicion. I give little time for them to identify themselves and state their business. If they remain silent or beat around the bush, I dismiss them. If they're persistent, I warn them that I'll call the police if they don't leave.
If they break in the house, I'm defending my home as if they intend to hurt me. I'm opening fire on them.
This is why you mind the company you keep and don't let a lot of people know where you live and in your home.
I have a couple axes.
one is a Gerber Axe Iāve had for years.
the other I was present as a leaving present
itās a Kangee Tomahawk
I also have a gun safe and bow storage one.
some stuff I canāt keep at home, so itās in an armoury..
A friend once asked me that when I applied to the mental health hospital/asylum he worked at. And he's like what would I use in almost any room if need be.
Answer - fire extinguisher. You pull the pin, spray/disorientate them, and then if needed bash them in the head.
I would be grabbing one of my multiple PDWs I have staged for emergencies.
I hope nobody breaks into my home with one of those š
Lol they most likely won't because they aren't small enough. Criminals and gangs always boast about their gun being so small. So if its a pistol version of a rifle then they won't want a stock or Arm Brace on it
Lets hope you never have to use those! But of course, if you do, make sure u film it š
I hope I never have to too. But have to be prepared to. Yeah sure let me throw on my head cam criminals
My 38 service revolver.
Now that's what I'm talking about ššāļø
@PaynefulPleasures
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Hey that's an old police revolver right?
If ya break into my house it's a really bad idea as I have occasionally look after my friends poisonous animal collection. O. O it would be a shame if your dumb. And get bit by like them... As many cause all sorts of nasty biological responses. XD. If the Intruders too dumb they might enf up with a hand or foot getting amputated. Or even a leg. O. o and I pray they don't be super stupid and get bitten by one of necrotic ones. Or it's pretty much game over.
O. o
I have guns but they're stored in a safe in another room with the keys in another safe so I can't access them quickly. I only have children's scissors in my room, so I'd pretty much just have to throw stuff.
@Naydyonov mine was under my own bed at 10 years old.
@berserk945 Man..
I only bought a gun a month ago and I'm 20. Urban Canada has almost no gun culture. To the point that most of the people I've met believe Canada to be almost gun-less. I bought a gun and the first question I get every time is along the lines of "Are you gonna shoot someone?"
I then explain the recreational & self-defense aspects of guns. Some understand, some (as is obvious by their behavior) continue to think I must have bought a gun to go shoot up some place. That's me being 20 and having received an official license.
Being 10 or 14 and having guns? Damn.
Definitely, when I have kids, I will teach them to use guns. Better to learn as a kid how to safely operate one than pick up a gun as an adult.
Kids actually view adults as the authority, so take their words more seriously (What adult will listen to another adult who tells them "Go to your room!" ā almost none). Meanwhile, adults consider themselves to be super smart & capable. So they can be doing unsafe things with a gun and when you tell them about it, they ignore it, because they think "I know what I'm doing", "If I can drive safely, I can definitely shoot safely", etc.
So when did your parents start teaching you to shoot?
They first hot me a Red Rider BB gun and started teaching me to even respect that and all the gun safety rules. It wasn't I think until I was 8 or 10 that I got my.22LR youth bolt action. Then when I turned 12 I got my first shotgun, just a 20 ga single shot youth.
No guns were ever locked up in our house, the rule was you don't touch them without Dad around. We had access to our own box of ammo. When they trusted us enough we were allowed to shoot anytime we wanted and were permitted to shoot groundhogs that were in the yard if we could.
My brother and I never had a huge interest in guns, but I think our early exposure learning what they can do and to respect that, made us not really all that fascinated by them.
It wasn't until I was 19 or 20 i got into firearms.
I'd use a gun, as I was once attacked in a parking lot by a guy... who slashed and stabbed me and I had to shoot him. It happened fast, was unexpected.
One of the reasons I have two dogs at home, best home security system ever... they hear the slightest thing, and they are all over it. Beats the heck out of those paid systems, where it takes the police hours to show up.
I don't keep guns in my home. I do, however, have a variety of swords and daggers readily available at arm's length that could do some serious fucking damage. Here's just one.
just like me
My phone has a pop socket so it's basically a hammer.
Unfortunately I don't have much else that I could immediately access and would be good in a fight. I guess I could just take a drawer out of the dresser and use that. That'd be good if I get a swing in but if not not so much.
1# A gun
2# Pocket knives
3# K-Bar combat knife
4# Sword
5# Bo Staff
6# Chain
7# Metal Piping
8# My Belt
9# My hands, feet n body.
10# I'll use kitchen utensils if I have to ( anything can be a weapon if you need it to be )
My shotgun most likely. My house isnāt big. Good luck dodging 00 buckshot.
A slug would be safer though don't want any lead shots coming at you in a confined space.
@Nikolai2004 Now you are just being silly, the best home defense round is a PDX1 and it is not a slug. Slugs travel through wall, doors, and just about any things else. The second best home defense round is 00 or 000 buckshot.
Do you care about the wall or a lawsuit? Gotta end him in one shot and be safe yourself.
@Nikolai2004 There you go being silly again, the chances of someone missing a target with 1 projectile as compared to multiple projectiles. We will not even discuss if there are children in the house or if you live in a multi-family dwelling.
We use 00 buck in the military and law enforcement for CQB for a reason, it is cheaper then PDX1 and it does a great job in a room. I shot can take down multiple targets and you just point and shoot. But I am sure with your vast knowledge and experience you would know what you are talking about (NOT). Stick to subjects you know because this is not one that you have a clue about.
My point laid fact on ending him with one shot that will result in severe trauma not putting him down with a bleak chance of survival. Buckshot and birdshot would be very safe if you're even 12 yards away and their aren't any of your family members near the trespasser. The only reason you could shit on slugs in a home defense situation is if your family lwere behind walls and the slug could ricochet and hit them. If you have a good choke then buckshot would be better since it wouldn't scatter anywhere beyond 12 yards, a person can withstand a buckshot blow and if he's armed than that can be a threat to you.
@Nikolai2004 Have you ever shot a person with 00 buckshot? Probably not. I have multiple times and they do not get up. Bottom line if you are using slugs in a home defense scenario you need to rethink what you are doing. Maybe you should start training the military and law enforcement with all your vast knowledge. Let me know when you first class is so I can attend.
Fuck the military and law enforcement they aren't what they used to be. If you care to join the defence league then come on over
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@johnsmithjs itās not just the safety of others. Itās far easier tracking a target in partial dark and the noise couple with just a couple of pellets is often enough.
Short barrelled shotguns are the perfect home defence weapon.
I loke your idea of pepper spray because I would jist loke to get the heck out and deal with the missing stuff later.
i have an idea of what u just said and i also have no idea
Anything and nothing.
Everything can be used as weapon.
Much of it even to kill.
The thing is to always go to attract without hesitation or warning and keep on attacking until that person run away or doesn't move. if that person doesn't move be sure he/she can't surprise attack you.
If you need to dispose of the body to not end up with legal problems. there are a lot of ways there they don't even gonna find any traces that he/she even been there.
I'd go for the knife and hammer, and go all elder scrolls on his ass Seriously tho the hammer can be used to hit him and kinda pushed him away and you can shank him in the guts with the knife if he gets too close. Hell you could even yeet the hammer at him and bum rush him with the knife.
Thatās fucked. Anyone who tries to break into your house you should be allowed to kill on the spot. Why should someone defending their family/home be charged? If a foreign invader tried to kill others arenāt we taught that you need to fire missiles or whatever to defend your land. There are super strong duty doors on the market you can install to avoid people using weapons or trying to kick it to break in and they work. People should look into stuff like that as well. People should feel safe and secure in their home.
I always carry a curved knife on my belt or the small one in my necklace. The gun is under a small night stand next to the sofa, second one in the middle of the hall. Third one, in the kitchen on fake looking drawer. Last one under the bed assault rifle. Soooo who tries to get in, your life is over. 🤷āāļø
To answer the question, I keep blades all over my house and a gun on me at ALL times. Even when asleep, I keep my sidearm within reach. However, home defense is not about what weapons are/are not available as much as it is about how well you use your surroundings. Yes, the intruders have the advantage of the preemptive strike and weapons, but you know your home better than they do. If you either do not have a weapon readily available or you have a weapon you do not understand like you do the use of your own arm, then your best course of action is use your knowledge of your home to your advantage. For example, make it appear like you are complying with them while leading them to an area you can take the advantage. With the right use of your environment and correct tactics, an unarmed person can stop an armed person.
Depends which room they entered. All are armed even bathrooms. You can't pick which window they enter so I'm prepared
Hell yeah.
I would definitely buy a shotgun, you dont need perfect aim with those as lots of people are shaky when scared a pistol risks missing the perp and possibly injuring a neighbor as the round pierces walls windows etc. anything other than a gun and you are a sitting duck just sayin.
Some spray oil right into their eyes and some flour and then a broom to whack em cos I'm not in the USA lol
Hammer or a bat would work well in your case of self defense...
As for my house I keep it well defended, I loved in the country for a very long time before moving to a subdivision with my wife.
I keep a pistol on my bedside table a d she keeps one of my other ones at her side of the bed in case I am not there, plus I have a number of other firearms as well as my calvary Saber and Bo staff
I've got plenty of knives I can use (for some reason every time I go camping I find a new knife just lying around outside so I've kind of got a collection going). If not that then what ever blunt and heavy object I can find.
Are you kidding? They wouldnāt even get the chance to pose the challenge before being shot dead.
What you mean pose the challenge?
Lol nevermind sorry
.357 revolver that I keep specifically for this potential scenario.
I hope I never have to use it for anything but target shooting. But in the off chance of a home invasion I know I could protect myself and those I care about.
You'd break your arm off in that scenario, a.38 is enough to kill a.357 indoors is inaccurate and kicks back a lot. You don't want to scare them you want to kill them the moment you see them that's why always aim for a mid body shot just a bit towards the right they'll pop their kidney and a relatively quick and very painful death would follow. You got a Colt phyton?
I don't have any guns, but I do collect combat ready swords, and other bladed weaponry.
So if they forced my hand, I'd see how they do in close quarters combat against them, especially since I do know how to use them.
Depends on what room I'm in and they're in. I'm in the kitchen, I got some long knives. Living room, there's a lot of junk laying around that's easy to throw and we have a couple bats in the closet from when my parents tried to make my brother and I play baseball. TV room, all I can think of is my mom's knitting and crochet needles, which isn't much but with enough force and aiming for the right spot it could do damage. Everything else is on the second floor. If I'm in my room, which is where I usually am, I got a couple NERF guns left in my closet that I for some reason never got rid of I could use as bludgeoning weapons if I really needed to. Past that I just barricade my door with some heavy bins and use the phone in my room to call 911.
If I was in the kitchen, I'd probably grab a knife, but I feel like for me that would be more of a disability, unless I could get a quick stab on the person.
As someone trained in martial arts, I'd be most comfortable using my hands and feet
A gun, a baseball bat, box cutter, kitchen knife, my bare hands. Whatever is necessary to fake them down.
I do have a gun. It's in a central space of the house, but it's hidden. I plan to have a hidden gun in every room eventually. I'm traditionally all about gun control, but there's a lot of nutty people running around in the USA these days, and not being able to defend yourself with deadly force just makes you an easy target. Sorry but this is the world we live in, not the one we want.
I keep a baseball bat by my bed and another one in the umbrella stand. They are very effective. But I probably won't need either as my cat is a very effective deterrent. She hates intruders.
.22 wmr (mag) should do the trick not to get confused with the.22 lr. The.22 wmr cartridges are much longer and have the ability to strike any vital organ.
I keep a sig 9mm in my drawer (in a small biometric safe) for this purpose. I hope that day never comes but if it did I rather have protection vs not have it.
I keep a good assortment of hand tools nearby, so a hammer or box cutter. I also always have a Swis Army Knife and there are many items handy that could do sone serious damage.
I'd go straight for the kitchen knives as Plan A. Failing that I'd use my pull up bar from my bedroom as a blunt weapon. I could also hurl glasses at them to create an opening for a follow up attack
I've got a rifle hanging above my computer desk. I've got a handgun less than 3 feet from me the majority of the time and I have a few cameras around my home outside. I got the cameras after someone broke into my vehicle in the driveway. I have a video of myself running outside with my handgun out and scaring the thief away. I feel confident in my abilities defend myself and my family.
I'd use my Black Aces Tactical semi auto shotgun which I keep loaded candy cane style with #4 buckshot in the front, then #1 buckshot, #00 buckshot, 3" #4 buckshot, 1 OZ slug, and a Brenneke Black Magic 3" 1 3/8 oz slug. Or my AR-15, or my C39V2.
The dog I have now, is a retired Police dog, and she's going to get a piece of any dumbass breaking in.
If she doesn't totally disable the invader, I have a Taurus Judge, loaded with alternating.410 shells, 3 pellets each, and.45 Colt.
I would pick up loose items and keep throwing at them, if I have to I use my krav maga training on them.
A big dildo. No one wants to risk death by dildo.
I have a 6 B cell maglite by my bed that can be used as illumination or a club, a Nepalese Kukri and a Cold Steel Bushman with in easy reach along with a 5 Foot Red Oak staff. Unfortunately as I live in the UK if I used either knife I'd be in trouble with the law.
Fastest weapon: knife. I can grab one within ~5 seconds.
Best weapon: pistol-caliber carbine.
I will receive a handgun soon.
But uh, Canada doesn't like when guns are used in self-defense. Hates it.
This actually happened to me and my father.
Two guys broke inā¦.. we fought them off with fists, our dogs and a .22 gun. Quite a story.
Iām tiny and not a fighter. Iād probably just scream and cry and try giving them whatever they want so they donāt hurt me.
then and there would you wish you had a gun?
@Oppressed_Leecher thereās no way I could bring myself to hurt someone
then you're dead or at least viciously raped and left for dead. most likely
I'll take a stainless bat so I could hit that person lol plus adrenaline rush will give me strength
Lmao we got big house it's alright
poke them in the eyes then kick the nuts tell he passes out
Kitchen knife or box cutter. Maybe a pen too lol
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I have the necessary tools. Would be a rough night if somebody died to a Drywall saw rather than a 10mm round. Imagine a nice, sharp, and thin pumpkin carving knife. That's gruesome channel wound city right there. the Serrations would cut muscle like Jello and easily rip an artery like a chip bag. Fear the Coarse Drywall saw.
Use a rope and sneak up on them. Strangle the f outta them and your are golden. Don't forget to break their kneck also, show no mercy because they could get back up and do harm to you if you don't
Currently? Crutches. I'm still nursing a bum wheel at the moment.
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