If a Girl Says She Can Be Alone Forever, She's Lying

[maldroid]

I've noticed a trend on here and elsewhere among people of a certain age: More and more of them are saying they could go the rest of their lives without having a romantic partner, and they'd be just fine with that.

Both guys and girls are saying it, though it's not too surprising to see more men saying it now (MGTOW getting bigger by the day). What's interesting to me is the number of young girls saying it...and actually believing it.

This is only an "in my experience" myTake so don't crucify me; I can only go by what I've seen and heard. I'm not sure if there's any actual scientific evidence to back up my claim, and I'm sure there are some females somewhere who lived for a hundred years without ever being with a man and died happy. I'm just saying, from what I've seen of life - and this includes knowing several women who have made the "I don't ever need a man!" boast - the majority of girls who think this between the ages of 15 and 25 are either flat-out lying or are still too naive about life.

No, I'm not referring to marriage or lifelong commitments. I'm just referring to any sort of romantic coupling and I do believe girls need it more than guys. In fact, I'm certain of it. Biologically, it would make sense that guys are somewhat more independent, though of course there's nothing stopping a girl from being independent these days. I think the two genders simply approach solitude in different ways. Girls, being the more social sex (and this is supported by mounds of evidence), don't do well with isolation and solitude; they invariably end up going to friends and family. Guys can avoid others for much longer periods of time and be perfectly okay...though I should add that extended periods of isolation can be bad for anyone.

Is it as simple as saying, "girls just have difficulty being alone?" Maybe. Again, there could be something inherent, something chemical/biological in their brains that makes them more social, that makes them crave feelings of connection from other human beings, and these cravings are simply less pronounced in men. When one thinks of the "lone wolf," one is almost definitely picturing a man. Sexist? Well, sure, everything is sexist nowadays so I suppose this qualifies, too. But it might also be just plain realistic and accurate.

I've never known any girl who can deal with being alone as well as a guy, that's all I'm saying. And of the ones who said multiple times they could completely ditch romance, they were all wrong, and they admitted it later. I know some guys who have yet to admit it, and yet to get a girlfriend and they seem okay. Well, for now. Personally, I don't think it's a good idea for either sex to swear off romantic relationships for the duration of their entire lives. Not only does it just reek of defeat, self-loathing, bitterness, fear, etc, but for girls, it's almost guaranteeing bouts of depression and loneliness. Guys will experience both, too, but either to a lesser degree, or it'll take longer for these feelings to arise.

On top of which, if you're 18, you haven't lived enough of life to make any claims about what you can and can't do for the next sixty years or whatever. You know nothing. I knew nothing, we all knew nothing. ;)

P.S. This isn't about proving girls are "weak" or anything like that. It's just an observation.

[redeyemindtricks]

Well... no.

Both men and women, generally speaking, are equally shitty at being alone -- and both get equally desperate for company, after enough time alone.

You seen the movie Cast Away? in which Tom Hanks ends up ranting incoherently at a volleyball named Wilson, after a while?
... That's how 99 percent of ALL of us would end up, after enough time all alone.
We're social animals, dude. That's how life works. We interact with others, we compete with others, we measure ourselves against others, we inspire others, we draw inspiration from others, we love others, we hate others, we differentiate ourselves from others.
Without others, the very notion of "being our own person" becomes meaningless.

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Among those exceptional people who CAN live a life of mostly solitude... there are just as many women as men.

The world has monks.

The world also has nuns.

Deal.

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Last not least --

Historically, WOMEN have dealt with a LOT MORE of "being alone" -- as just a part of life itself -- than have men.

Consider:

• Women have historically stayed home, while men have gone to work.
Work sucks, yeah... but, work is usually SOCIAL.
The home is NOT social.
The home is a stultifying, same-damn-thing-EVERY-damn-day, nothing-ever-new, environment of completely boring routine... where women are ALONE.

Yeah, babies bla bla bla children bla bla bla... but... dude... have you ever taken care of a baby before?
When it's just you and a baby, you are still definitely ALONE. Trust me.

If anything, if it's just you and a baby/ies, and/or small child (ren), you're EVEN MORE ALONE than being all by yourself.
Because you can't just dash out somewhere really quick. You CAN'T.
You're beholden to them. You have to watch them ALL the time. You can't turn yr back on them for a SECOND. You can't leave them in the car for a MINUTE. If you want to go ANYWHERE, you have to load up the stroller (s) and the diaper bag (s) and all the fucking gear and it's a huge giant production... and, if any sort of accident happens, there goes those plans. And then you're ALONE again.

AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY
• Women live longer than men -- and we're normally younger than our life partners.
Add that together, and we usually outlive our men by a decade or so.
How do we spend those 10 years?
ALONE.
We spend them ALONE.
And... those are the 10 years at the END of life, when we face our own sunset, and the prospect of DEATH.
We face DEATH... ALONE.
DEATH.
ALONE.
So take this "she's lying", and shove it.

[alphadoggystyle]

you're wrong. Men are biologically more independent and better at dealing with loneliness than women are, significantly. Women need men more than the opposite, this is expressed in the traits women primarily find attractive in men, security and resources, compared to the traits men primarily look for in women, youth and beauty. The fact that women want those traits in a man is the result of evolution and sexual selection, since women where to weak and vulnerable to protect themselves and their baby, and to gather resources themselves. As a result they evolved mentally to be dependent on others to a higher degree than men as well.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle You didn't even address any of my points -- You just copied and pasted the same stuff you wrote on a zillion other opinion threads.

[alphadoggystyle]

I dont need to, because your points didn't have any factual basis behind it, all widows dont spend the rest of their lives on their own, they usually have children and grandchildren who visit, and of course friends in a similar age, especially now when there are special carecenters for older people to live in together. The woman was still allowed to see her mother or her other relatives, as well as her fathers relatives while staying at home, and most jobs back in the day where so physical that you didn't really have that much time to socialize.
by the way my argument is based on biology and statistically observable traits, so its no surprise you completely avoided trying to refute it.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle Yr "argument" doesn't show anything, actually.

You said, basically:
Women are looking for a partner with A and B things.
Men are looking for a partner with X and Y things.

Wait... Let's look at that again:
Women ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER with A and B things.
Men ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER with X and Y things.

Oh! How about that!
Both of them ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER!

[alphadoggystyle]

except that the "needs" men have in women are not really dependent on survival unlike thte opposite, which is why a man can fuck a woman and not care about her company afterwards to a much higher degree than the opposite. Women their entire lives would be dependent on men and it would still be true today if you removed government welfare as well as if all guys working in the army and police force stopped doing their job.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle Well, obviously men are better able to survive physical violence by themselves. Duh...

Dude, STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC.

The topic is about LONELINESS and EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCE. Not about physical and material needs. I mean... Can you even read?

[alphadoggystyle]

Mens superior physical ability to survive on their own translates into their way of thinking as well, while womens brains evolved the need to keep a man around, if her mind didn't want to have protection even though she physically needed it, many women would have ended up dead since they didn't care about protection, and thus not pass on their offspring and genes. So everything i said is completely relevant to the topic. You just lost, deal with it.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle Oh please.

So, then, if "womens brains evolved the need to keep a man around"... why do women file for divorce so much more often than the other way around, hm?

[alphadoggystyle]

Because women can easily find another man to keep her company and date while at the same time keep some of the resources from the man she divorced through alimony. If the divorce laws where different you would see a lot more men filing for divorce compared to how it is now.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle... Wrong again. It's MEN who are much faster to look for another partner after a divorce.
time.com/3584827/pew-marriage-divorce-remarriage/

Try again.

[alphadoggystyle]

Nope, im 100% correct, and you are 100% wrong. Deal with it. Here look at this article, around half of all women have a backup man in case their current relationship doesn't pan out, so they dont need to start looking after a relationship has ended, since they already planned it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...ionship-turns-sour.html

check mate.

[redeyemindtricks]

@alphadoggystyle
"Men have back-burners at roughly twice the rate of women, the study found."

www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[alphadoggystyle]

the link i posted had a survey of 1000 women, while your study had 374 people partaking and probably only half where women. Also your study only reports about keeping in touch with an ex, it doesn't say much if anything about the content of these conversations, which may not be romantic at all.

[Bluemax]

About nuns and monks.

I grew up around a lot of nuns. I was raised Catholic. They taught us our catechism. Aside from that, they did a lot of volunteer work at hospitals and institutions my brother was involved with. by the way, no nun was ever mean to me or anyone in my family. In fact just the opposite was true.

Any rate, I found that with one *very* notable exception (yes, I had a crush on a nun), they were all physically unattractive.

This has led me to ponder why that is. Does being a nun make one unattractive, or is one drawn to the lifestyle because one is unattractive? It's probably a combination of the two.

My friend's aunt is *very* religious. She wanted to be a nun. When she applied at the convent, she was (more or less) turned away and told to *seriously* reconsider. The reason? She was told she's too beautiful!

I have seen pictures of her in her youth. She was indeed lovely. She's aged spectacularly, too.

I would give *anything * to interview that mother superior who...

[Bluemax]

... turned her away.

When I visited the Mountain Spirit Center near Tehachapi, I talked with a monk there. A good guy, it seemed, but very socially awkward and physically unattractive. Strangely I seemed to know more about Buddhism than he did. Any rate, again it got me thinking if he is awkward and unattractive because he's a monk, or if he's a monk because he's awkward and unattractive... or is it a mix of the two.

It does seem that in *some* cases (and it's important to understand I said *some*), God/Jesus/gods/Nature/Whomever seems to fill the role of Wilson for the lonely.

That's my two cents. Thanks for giving me a diversion in the doctor's office.

[redeyemindtricks]

@Bluemax "It does seem that in *some* cases (and it's important to understand I said *some*), God/Jesus/gods/Nature/Whomever seems to fill the role of Wilson for the lonely."

Agreed.

[redeyemindtricks]

@Bluemax Hoping this doc visit is just routine maintenance?

[Bluemax]

The dr's visit is routine. My students asked why I went to the doctor. Here's my response...

She wants to see if her witch's brew has killed me yet. I'm happy to disappoint.

;)

[Bluemax]

Two blue downvotes. What the hell is up with that?

[redeyemindtricks]

@Bluemax Dunno mah man. They'll learn

[mikemx55]

A baby gives you a purpose and a meaning for life. Any mother would say that.

[mikemx55]

Oh, and women need to talk. No matter what, they just NeEd to talk. About everything to anyone.
They just can't hold it in and live with it.

[FatherJack]

It's NOT BS , these women can & do stay permanently single , it's is definitely a growing trend , for BOTH genders , I agree with your take. Women have 2 HUGE advantages over men
1) A much lower innate need for sex , due to both biology & social conditioning , female sex drive is on average much lower than a man's , if a woman desires sex , it's on tap if wanted. However the good news for men is that libido will fade with age

2 ) Women generally much prefer their own gender to men & have ultra close inter female friendships , that are very tactile & affectionate. Men NEVER have these.

Women & men are poles apart & will never see eye to eye , we are utterly differently wired , conflict is inevitable in female / male relationships. I'm a single dad , I knew taking main custody would mean a permanently solo life , as no woman would want a guy my age with baggage , but I'm happy with this , a less stressful life is what I wanted. It seems to be men that are , at the moment the gender more rapidly abandoning even dating , neither gender needs the other , lets be honest.

[btbc92]

Um, no. Your very very wrong. We can if we have the motivation to do it. Not everybody is suited for a celibate life, yes. But, people at times don't have a choice. We have to do what is beneficial for everybody else, not just for ourselves. I have done so all my life and will soon be 25 next year. However this is not a trend. Its call Celibacy. It is a choice. We are not Nuns. Were simply tired. Just like some men are too. Not every woman is social. I'm an introvert. I love my space. I don't like talking with every and everybody I cannot connect and have a deep and meaningful conversations with.

"he majority of girls who think this between the ages of 15 and 25 are either flat-out lying or are still too naive about life." Far from the truth. Naïve? Buddy, I have one thing to say about this comment: Watch what you say. It is comments like this, is what pushes women to stay away from guys like you. Not everybody is scared. You know why I stay to myself? I hate modern dating. Over sexualized, its okay to use people, how you have to do 'this' and 'that' or else.

I think what it is is that your confused, because you can't believe that some women isn't dealing with men's BS anymore. You hate the 'wait till marriage to have sex' proposal, so you decided to take things into your own hands. But since hardly anybody see saving oneself as important anymore, why should I or anybody else see it as important to be with somebody? Its not. There is more to life that. I have an aunt who is nearing her 50s. She has always wanted to get married, but she never dated and as been alone all her life. You say we know nothing? We know enough to make our decisions early. You don't know what hell we go through nor the hell you put us through. If we don't want sex, you call us prudes and mock us. And how nobody would want us. Before you go blaming us, look at yourselves first. We mirror off of you, we trust you, we put our futures on you, our lives on the line for you, sacrifice for YOU, your supposed to be a leader, the man of the house, the 'HEAD of the household'. But you don't want that, you don't use common sense, and you put all the blame on us.

Yes, we can be guilty of some things as well. But this is why I love the Biblical standpoint and teaching. The traditional way. But you don't like it. Its the 21st century and how its so primitive, right? Well then if you like it so much, all I can say is men needs to stop complaining.

[btbc92]

Women don't regret because we never experienced love. We regret we ever thought about it in the first place. We always have to wonder: what is wrong with me? And then when we give ourselves to you, were not enough. Nowadays most people are afraid of marriage or refuse to marry the girl, but want a dating relationship forever because they see marriage as a scam. They don't realize that they calling themselves and us a scam. Marriage is two people. Its isn't anything else. So apparently I'm a scam according to some people who think this.

"girls just have difficulty being alone?" Not if your not a natural lonely your not. Take a good look at MBTI. According to this model we have 16 unique personalities. I'm considered an INFJ, I have near 100% Introversion, 87% intuition, a balance between Thinking and Feeling with 58%, and Judgment around 90%. This comes with natural ability and practice. Some people are happy being alone, and some needs an outlet. But romance is a choice.

[btbc92]

Also to point out. Some of us who say this is either considered too different, too awkward or too weird as I have been called. I cannot relate to everybody of the modern world no matter how I try. It just makes me miserable to try to fit in growing up. My purpose is not to fit in the status quo, but to be uniquely of my own person. People either accept me or hate me. And I have my fair share of jealousy, envy and hatred towards me from both male and female. Mostly male.

The problem with this MyTake is that you haven't experienced enough. You think you know but you don't. That is why I said experience isn't always the best teacher. Wisdom comes with understanding. And right now that is not what you have. I have studies other peoples relationships, my families, parents, friends, coworkers, peers, school mates and all. And few have genuine relationships and survive. And I do mean extremely 1/100 few. The rest I see is foolishness, games, lies, deceit and users, selfish of their own.

[btbc92]

That is not the kind of relationship I want or need. But the reality is, this is how relationships are today. And I refuse to step foot in such a relationship with people who refuse to follow in how its supposed to be. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. But what I believe is not others belief. This is why most of us are by ourselves. Because nobody really wants the 'true' us, but a fake substitute to fulfill ones fantasies.

[alphadoggystyle]

Cry me a river, dont pretend like women are angels, all the dram and bullshit you make men deal with all the time, and you always excuse this childlike behaviour on your irrational emotions. Women are selfish as hell and immature compared to men. And less independent too. While i dont think everyone needs a partner (even some women probably dont need it) The mytake owner still obviously knows more about life than you.

[btbc92]

@alphadoggystyle Where do you even get this 'cry me a river' nonsense from? Who ever said women are angels? Did I ever say that? NO. I made my statement very clear. Women are selfish as men are, yes. But not every women is like this. But for you to actually claim that the MyTake owner knows more than me is based on you opinion because you just don't like what I got to say. Your just as ignorant when it comes to your roll as a man. Being a leader and head of the home as I have said. Obviously you don't being a man with responsibly. I know my place. But I will not hand myself over to somebody who doesn't know what their doing.

[btbc92]

Your no different than a lot of women today either. This is the problem with modern day society and has broken down the family unit. Irrational emotions has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with how you treat a person. You don't know me or the experiences I've went through to even make such a statement. And its plain clear that you don't care. So whatever else you have to say afterwards is irrelevant. Your too prideful in your own sex as a male, you don't even acknowledge why women behave, act and think the way they do. But you have the nerve to call me immature. Your the one that is. I know men that treat me with respect better than what your showing. And you in my opinion is not a man. I do not speak for every woman. I speak for myself and the innocence of others who is literally suffering. Not women who is disrespectful towards men who don't deserve it.

[alphadoggystyle]

I know my role as well except that most women in western society are confused because feminism teaches them to not look for traditional men with old school values. This is also why dating women is impossible without dealing with a load of bullshit. Your rant basically came off as a huge victim complex making it seem like most guys are the reason dating is so bad yet it is women making it so difficult in the first place by complaining about guys regardless of how we behave.

[btbc92]

@alphadoggystyle Again, this is where your wrong. I was arguing the statement the MyTake owner was making out. Like its a joke that women make the choice to stop bothering with romance overall. This has nothing to do with 'victim complex' on my part. Its the fact that too many men today are not mature nor on my mental level. If you were reading and paying very close attention to what I wrote before, you would not be saying what you are saying.

Yes, feminism is a major problem. That I can highly agree with. But this is one of the reasons why I'm looking to get out of this country. The issue is that it is equally men and women. But I was arguing over the MyTake. If the MyTake owner wrote on the lines of why women make such a choice, I wouldn't just said men alone. Obviously women is also responsible, no denial there. But again, I disagree with the MyTake.

[btbc92]

But when he wrote: "
On top of which, if you're 18, you haven't lived enough of life to make any claims about what you can and can't do for the next sixty years or whatever. You know nothing. I knew nothing, we all knew nothing."

That statement right there is VERY immature, wither jokingly or not. It is not right. There are women who take relationships very seriously such as I do. But how many people do you know today actually do? With holding standards and proper morals and values, who believes in the traditional ways? Hardly to rarely. He does not know how others around the world actually feel. This is based off of his experiences. So no, I made my statement purely on the wisdom I've gathered over the years. Actually listening to both men and women. And its not accurate to what he is saying. Both genders needs to change but if they don't want to, can't force them.

[alphadoggystyle]

nope, that is where you are wrong, by the way you dont come off as someone who is mature or has a high mental level, i doubt that is the reason why you cannot find a man. As i said, feminism was demanded by women and they are the ones calling gender roles as "outdated" and only based on social construct, two statements which most men know are false, so its more women who are at fault for how bad the relationships between the genders are now, men already know we cannot be equal since men are biologically superior.

[alphadoggystyle]

by the way nowhere did i say that i agree with all the points made by the mytake owner, however the overall statement is true, women are more dependent on men than the opposite, both physically (for protection and resources) as well as mentally/emotionally (our emotions and needs have adapted to make us look for the traits we physically need)

[Primemutton]

It's the way the modern world has panned out. I'm 46 and have lived in splendid isolation all of my life so feel like I'm well qualified to answer this question. It's happening to more and more people. You either have the communicative skills learnt in youth or you don't. It then becomes very difficult to over come this hurdle if not. I suspect women who are not being approached by male suitors are throwing the sponge in or losing hope rather than choosing solitude. The whole way in which men and women interact in the western world is so badly screwed up now it's not a surprise the birth rate is falling through the floor. We need to badly re evaluate how we teach and relate to sex and relationships. We have people hopelessly infected by media driven ideas of what a relationship should be, we have people judging their worthiness as a mate by the standards set by pornographers , and some in society claiming sex isn't part of a relationship at all. It's all screwed up. It's not good to be alone but more of us are having to experience it and even more of us will in the future if nothing changes.

[udolipixie]

"If a Girl Says She Can Be Alone Forever, She's Lying "
She may be lying or she may not be.

Just because you think gals are incapable of living without a male doesn't mean that there isn't a gal who is capable of doing such.

Gals needing romantic coupling more than guys because they're social is a bit skewed to me. There are a shit ton of other ways to fulfill socializing without being romantically coupled. So to me it's like you're saying gals need this one option to socialize even though they have a shit load of other ones for the same reason.

[LittleSally]

Haha Not really even close to the truth...
Some people - believe it or not - actually mean what they say.

Doesn't mean things aren't going to change along the way, but the fact is - that's genuinely how they currently feel.

[alphadoggystyle]

Actually what he is saying is factually true, women are less independent than men are, biologically. This is easily observable in the traits that are considered attractive in men and women respectively, women look for security and resources in a man primarily, while men look for youth and beauty primarily. And the reasons for this are thousands of years of sexual selection and evolution, the reasons women look for those traits are because they need them and cannot acquire them on their own, at least not anywhere to the same level of efficiency as a man can. While men only really need sex and company from women, something which isn't as important to surviving as compared to resources and security.
Women need men overall more than the opposite, the welfare state and the government catering to womens needs in modern times has helped alleviate this somewhat but women are still more emotionally dependent on men than the opposite.

[LittleSally]

@alphadoggystyle Believe whatever you want.
I was talking about facts of today. Not make-believe of over 300 years ago.

[alphadoggystyle]

I dont believe. I know. And nothing you said was fact, just nonsense that you wish was true. Keep being in denial.

[AriadneSky]

right,. thats why men are in 3 x as many relationships in a lifetime as women. bc they are better at being alone. guys are not better at being alone. they are more violent without a partner.

your desired traits are your opinion and not true for everyone. you can't take an opinion and say this proves another opinion. you're going backwards.

maybe you think certain things bc of stereotypes you see. doesn't mean what you think is 'true'.

as ell the most efficient form of survival for social beings as humans are, is strong community or tribe or groups. not romantic relationships. romantic relationships are very inefficient forms of 'security. they usually fail. or someone dies get sick becomes annoying.

[AriadneSky]

how long have you ever been alone. as in no relationship no friends no family contact. probably never.

[AriadneSky]

lone wolf is bullshit. wolves are amongst the most social animals. they have extended families that help rear their young and the female and male mate for life,. they dont even have sex immediately, they court for a month.

lone wolves are cast out for one reason or another and they join with other cast outs.

people try to romanticize being alone but it isn't how human beings are meant to live,. no one would be survived if they were alone,. having a dick is no exception. there's strength in numbers. society would never improve if everyone was a hermit.

many people have social skill. and i guess other people get jealous of this so they try to turn it into a weakness. and you are trying to say women are weak so saying its not what you're saying changes nothing. you're trying really hard to convince us women are needy and men are self reliant,. its bullshit. society is built bc people are not self sufficient.

What do you think makes you independent?

[AriadneSky]

You are on social media trying to connect with people by writing about how women need connection more than men. as if you need an excuse to have social interaction. you're using 'women' as a scapegoat to make a connection, if you were happy being in solitude youd keep your thought to yourself.

[AriadneSky]

its interesting from a socio-psychological perspective.

and dont forget 3:1. Men: Women.

[SweedyPie]

I don't know about other women out there but for me, after 8years of loving someone unconditionally and having the most hurt in every way possible from them I am at this exact juncture. I honestly believe with evrry fiber of my being that I can be alone and happy until I pass away. It's not that I don't want a relationship but rather that I believe finding the type of person I would need is so unlikely that I'm not expecting to find it. And I am absolutely fine with that. I do long to be hugged and feel cared for sometimes but knowing how much work, time and energy a new relationship would require makes it less appealing. I guess my ability to believe any woman who said she could be alone forever would be based on how much relationship experience she has had. The ones who have been badly hurt I would believe. The ones who have been through serious relationships and then say that I would also believe. Young ones who don't know but think they know, time would be their best teacher.

[Cc1234]

I don't see why either sex would want to stay alone forever. I've had crushes and always knew I wanted to be with someone for awhile. I had my first relationship at 19, and even though it didn't last long, it confirmed to me that I wanted to find that one special girl to be with forever. Its been a little while since the relationship and its been hard not being with someone, if I wasn't with someone for the rest of my life I know it would be a depressing life to live. Things are just better when you have the one person you feel extremely close to in ways that you just don't with anyone else. Of course there will be some people who may never be with anyone and be fine, but I would say the vast majority of both guys and girls need to have that companionship.

[RexCatholicissimus]

I remember reading about this actress from some really old, 1930's horror movies who was typically typecast in this kind of cackling, hysterical old crone role, who ended up getting to 75 years old and dying, never having married, no children. I felt very sad reading that.

To even imagine that in the 30's is frankly insane, so to imagine it NOW? I see it as close to impossible. I've never personally known a girl who hasn't had at least one boyfriend, you CANNOT have a complete isolationist woman, unless she's horribly disfigured or has mental issues, or something.

[lumos]

My godmother, who is now 93, had a brief relationship with a man she thought she would marry. However, he died suddenly and since then hasn't been with anyone else. She's not married, doesn't have any kids, and as far as I'm aware of has been alone for about 70 years. And she was fine with it.

[Josht13]

as far as you know, anyway.

[lumos]

@Josht13 yeah, like I said. I have trouble believing she'd lie to us.

[Josht13]

No I mean the she's fine with it part.

[lumos]

@Josht13 nothing about her behavior has ever indicated she wasn't fine with it. I assume she would have found someone if she wasn't ok with the way things ended up for her.

[Sabretooth]

or she was wearing a mask-or worse-she locked the desire away.

[lumos]

@Sabretooth doubt it.

[Anonymous]

I think sometimes the wording throws people off. You need few things in life and a partner isn't one of them (unless you want kids but science has made it so woman can be inseminated without having to have physical sex). Just because one doesn't NEED something doesn't mean they don't want it. They could WANT it more then anything in the world but they don't NEED it. You need water, food & shelter. You want a partner. My Husband is my best friend and my world I can't imagine life without him but I don't NEED him and I don't want him to NEED me either. A relationship is a choice. I COULD live without him I just would never want to...

[Opinion Owner]

If anything happened to him I don't think I'd date again, although I'd probably try to get a female house mate for the company and emotional end - I want to have someone with me at the end of the day. I have a great family life and great circle of friends that I've had for 15years + at this point. People desire company and comfort but their are ways to get that other then being in a relationship. And desire isn't a need, you could find ways to manage without it but why would you want to?

[Opinion Owner]

But desire does make having goals and life easier... I mean you could say desire is needed cause you have to have the desire to live... to eat, find shelter and so on.

[JudgmentDay]

Correction: If a Girl Says She Can Be Alone Forever, She "Can Be" or "Might Be" Lying would be most accurate wording.

Technically, it should be Single For Life or Remain Single For the Rest of Their Lives.

Because "Forever" is inaccurate wording in terms of the word's meaning, since NOBODY can nor is able to exactly live "forever" and remain here in this world and be part of this world "forever".

@Unit1 agreed?

[Unit1]

Yes, you corrected that correctly!

As do can we be permanently without relationship and proof of it is me but I'm just a month away from turning 22.
Eventually we're getting used to it and adapt ourselves to it and THEN it does not matter, and then we realize it never *really* did.

[JudgmentDay]

@Unit1 Because it does not absolutely guarantee or mean that they won't remain single for the rest of their life. If they choose to be single and always kept holding back and avoided relationships for long enough, such as for more than 10 years or even more, then it could be pretty much over. They would have gotten used to it or had already found companionship with pets or something instead.

[Unit1]

That's kinda what I've been through or at least am still going through. And I do see how that makes sense.

[kellyg83]

Considering the amount of garbage and lies put forth into today's world, I'll be with someone when people actually come to their senses. However, that will probably be when hell freezes over so I'm fine with being alone. It's better than dealing with other people's lies and attempts to use others for resources.

[Unit1]

What are you onto? Have you encountered male gold diggers and players?

[kellyg83]

@Unit1 I've encountered a lot of types of people, even players. But one thing I know for sure is to never be too nice to people. They see it as weakness and will take you for all you've got.

[Unit1]

I see.
Well, I be nice because I just am but not so much, that I can be taken advantage of.

[kellyg83]

@Unit1 I can be nice too, but I keep a wall up for good reason.

[ThunderButt83]

your full of shit. guys are miserable being alone because girls want to be alone from men, women mostly want the company of other women. so when they say "I don't ever need a man!" its because they dont want one, because she has all the friends she wants. other females.

[whyisitso]

I think it is more about convincing themselves they can do it. Because hell yes we can! It is just that most people do not really want to live alone. It is all about the terms you use. But there is those people who just enjoys life fat away from other people, maybe they don't want to have anyone? Well, I think EVERYONE deep down wants to find love, not just any guy to be with, so that is why we say we can survive without it. There is always other kinds of love than romantic love...

[evelator_253]

it could be because of their mental problems and just because of society today.
people can judge you and bully you because of your mental thoughts, actually they can judge you on basically anything these days. your gender, age, sexuality, etc. things like those can scar you to think that you can't be in a relationship.

[Melissa4]

It's a personal choice if she wants to stay alone forever. I know a couple of women in 40s who aren't married yet and they are independent.
And I don't think that anyone would like to live alone forever. Some might have got hurt in the past and they don't want to get hurt again.
It's better if a girl doesn't live alone but that is not impossible.

[Cosytoasty]

I don't think it's more true for girls. I mean... have you seen what happens to guys who can't find female company or at the very least get laid - take a look around here for a start, Elliot Rodger's all over the place.

[Library]

Nope nope nope. There are girls who actually mean what they say.

[Mrwoo99]

Women could never be alone because it would kill them... literally. Women are social creatures and are attention whores on social media 24-7 getting off to likes and male attention. Imagine if everyone began to ignore them they'd lose their minds and would start adopting cats. A women without attention or affection is like someone who's starving.

[Saoirse_Nua]

I would say the point about less girls like to be alone than guys is true because they are more social but in the context of not having an SO, I think both genders would be at around the same number (probably quite low) for who want to stay single forever.