I think it's one of the most ridiculous thing I ever heard, it's pretty much like saying "Yes, I beat the shit out of my wife because I love her"... There are so many flaws in that female professor's "arguments" I think she may suffer from a kind of Liberal psychosis.
C'mon, it's not rocket science... There's no way people could save their marriages by cheating on their partners.
That is the dumbest this I have ever heard. I will never cheat on anyone and would leave anyone instantly if they cheated on me. Women who cheat are selfish nasty people that don't deserve to be with anyone that loves them. I was a liberal feminist for a good part of my life but shit like this has made me realize that feminism is not about equal rights which we already have but is actually about being selfish because they really all want more rights than men. I have gotten very conservative over the past few years with the left going so far left that they all sound insane. There is a fight against traditional family because they say its sexist but honestly I really want that for me now.
If you want a chance for this shit to end we need to vote out the democrat politicians that support these ideas. I mea there is a women in congress that married her brother to commit immigration fraud and now is paying her lover with campaign funds. Trump 2020
Totally false, when a woman cheat it mean the relationship with her husband is finished. It mean she have no feelings for her husband anymore and the marriage is never without any luck on making it work ever again.
No, that's not only utter bullshit to defend a woman who doesn't give a shit about her family, hence her destroying their lives because she feels like having sex with some one else, its not only bullshit because she wouldn't be saying this about men cheating on their wives, its also bullshit because all data shows that women cheat when they are done with the relationship and are looking for a way out. So she is wrong morally, she is wrong in application (she is a hypocrite) and she is wrong objectively. I hope to god she gets cheated on and has to rationalize why the person who cheated on her was in the right for doing so. What a complete scum bag, but what do you expect from a ultra liberal feminist college professor? They are completely devoid of respect for others, morality, and common sense.
Isn't it obvious this chick is just justifying her cheating ways? It's called rationalization.
This chick might be holding a beta cuck into possession at the time (doubt that even), but she's obviously doomed to be childless and alone with her cats or small dog.
I'm not even joking... write her name down... look it up every 5 years... it will be a void of aloneness and void of happiness. I'm not trying to be mean either, I'm just stating the facts.
How is anyone supposed to take Liberals seriously when they do this? I mean I'm a "liberal" on the sense that I support gay marriage, social programs, I'm pro choice and for gun control, i support universal healthcare and affordable education and I lean heavily Left on the political spectrum when it comes to economics.
But Jesus Christ, this shit is why so many get disenfranchised and move over to the Right.
People like her are really beginning the push to normalise polamory and "open" relationships - particularly for women not to be monogamous and instead to be "free" to have sex with whoever they want.
I will never understand the appeal of an "open relationship". Even if we forget the fact that men get the shittiest end of the stick in open marriages, these "couples" are just "friends with benefits" living in denial and tied together by a piece of paper, not by love. What is even the point of "saving" a relationship like that?
Well what we see now, and what feminism is really about, is the masculine vs feminine imperative as Rollo Tomassi calls it. In a balanced culture the sexes come to a compromise and relationships benefit both sexes in some way. In the West we're shifting more and more towards what benefits women over men.
Women have what's called a dual-mating strategy. Sex, even when the person doesn't plan on having children, is always ultimately driven by reproduction. It's the reason we have a sex drive.
Women have always required two things for their children: 1) strong genes to help those children survive 2) long term investment, help raising the children
That's "Alpha vs beta". "Lover vs provider". "Bad boy Vs nice guy". "CAD vs DAD". The "alpha/lover" is "hot", the "beta/provider" is "stable".
Ideally they want a guy to have the traits of both: a strong masculine personality, and the willingness to stick around and be a good father. In the West especially though with the culture being the way it is, men tend to be one or the other. Guys with both of those qualities are rare. That's why they call it the dual mating strategy.
With the open relationship, particularly the ones where the guy gets the short end of the stick as you say, she gets the "beta provider" boyfriend/husband while she's free to have sex with the more sexually exciting "alpha lover" types. That's what they're pushing for now.
@englisc Quite agreeable. Haven't read too much of Rollo himself, but have heard those ideas/analysis espoused in quite a few circles. I also think that the (dwindling) alpha-beta dichotomy in modern society is still only 50% of the issue. It would be one thing to have more strong, capable and sexually alluring men, but what is to be done with the quality control of the women? I've often thought of the true measure of an "alpha" is not in how far and wide he can spread his seed in iteself, but if he were so inclined, how many *high quality* women in both looks and character could he attract as potential longterm relationships?
If I use myself as an honest example, I've dated and mated a fair few "maidens" relative to my age, but not for the sake of being a manslut, I've often met girls who had potential, but proved themselves to be, frankly, worthless, beyond the usual ego-driven games and exploitations the harlots usually get up to. That's of course when I take my leave...
by the way what do you make of all that business with Rollo apparently ratting out 21Convention to feminist journos? I didn't follow that all that much, but is he even a part of their group anymore?
That's true. It is hard to find decent women, and there is no quality control there because of feminism. What feminism teaches women is to be self-entitled, and also to completely ignore what men want pretty much. So they grow up being taught that they're valuable just because they're women, they get thirsty guys constantly chasing them blowing up their egos.
They go for the "alpha" guys, but the alpha guys tend to be players, so they get pumped and dumped by them. They never realise that the reason they can't keep those guys around - the reason those girls couldn't keep you around - is because they don't have much else to offer those guys than sex, and they don't have the self-awareness to figure that out. Instead like many men, many of their beliefs are based on ego-defence, as in "I'm perfect, he's in the wrong, it's his loss" etc. They refuse to acknowledge their own flaws, and society discourages them from doing so anyway. All of society backs them up on this.
Only very few of them properly understand it, and yeah those women are becoming harder and harder to find as we see more and more of this bullshit.
The stuff about Rollo, I'm not sure exactly what went on there, both him and Anthony Johnson seem a little dodgy to me. Each of them basically wanted to be seen as "leaders" of the manosphere, and that's what that whole thing was about. But still, even if I don't particularly like him as a person Rollos work on inter-sexual dynamics is mostly good.
@englisc Indeed, the betas chasing these not-so lovelies really exacerbates the issue, it's gross, and flat out treacherous in the long run. I think that a vacuous sense of self (lack thereof) leads the "modern woman" to rely on her ego as a means to fill in that gap - pardon the pun lol.
I've also seen that in some of the dopey bints I've had to bin off also, they would look at me like I was insane for not chasing them when they pulled the extreme "shit tests", or rather attention seeking games. They don't understand that a man who has self worth, he only deems it to be a waste of time and an insult to his integrity and honour.
... Unfortunately these beta fuckbois who pump and dump don't understand this either.
I had a girl a couple months ago drunkenly approach me for what was inevitably meant to be a sexual encounter. I wasn't interested, she tried to insult me in order to provoke a sexual response, so I quite literally grabbed her by the pussy and told her politely to leave me alone. My response was in reaction to her behaviour of course, what does she do? Tries getting guys to fight me for groping/raping her, that falls flat so she then tells the female bar staff, that also failed... The RAGE on her face... Pathological.
Hmm... Seems like they've caught a little money fever and forgot themselves. For sure, like JD, if it's of worth then apply it!
It's not a large enough sample size to draw conclusions from, and even then it was barely half the women she surveyed. They were in sexless orgasmless marriages. They didn't want a divorce but they didn't want to go through life without sex and cumming. That makes total sense to me, and it's a state many men find themselves in too. Sexless marriage, but you love your kids? Have an affair.
How does that make any sense what so ever? thats why liberals are ruining the this world. its like when they say if you go to prison for raping kids its a illness and you can get help for it. its like um no its called your fucked up in the head and shot in the head.
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No because they have no respects for their partners. You try to justify cheating for yourself. If you have a too high sexdrive for your partner just break up. Or are you not willing to give up on his resources?
It may not be a belief embraced by classical Liberals or that kind of "political/institutional Liberals", but it surely is embraced by "sex-positive" Liberals.
You don't know what sex-positive Liberalism is, but you should! As a "branch" of Liberalism, it's QUITE popular among my generation and younger ones. Supporting an ideology without spending time to knpw what it is about, is just giving a carte blanche to all sorts of abusive behaviour and extremism.
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