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They are one and the same to me, at the end, they both deal with trust.
One undermines it and the other signals a lack of it. Outside of a well written novel or a good movie, neither are attractive.
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Lies and secrets are different. I spent most of my years growing up by lying and not being honest due to insecurities and blocking responsibility. But I’ve always been good at keeping secrets and am probably more loyal than I should be. So these days it’s simple : just be 100% honest. That means if I ever have to withhold information to protect a secret I will not lie, just say that I don’t want to give an answer. I believe someone can be honest and also can be trusted to keep secrets and protect others.
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I think it's neither. I think everyone can have things they don't want to tell anyone else, and a partner should respect that. It's only the same when it's something that they're hiding explicitly because they know it's inappropriate for the relationship, or that they'd possibly make their partner uncomfortable, like hiding that you're talking to an ex, or that you're visiting a friend of the opposite gender, or that you're hooking up drugs, or something of the like. That's the same as lying, but hiding it instead of straight up lying about it is a little sneakier, that's the only difference, but as far as how much of a bad person or partner you are, it's the same.
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They are both dishonesty. One is just as bad as the other.
Many people, especially guys in my experience, will avoid telling you something because they know that it’ll end their chances with you, such as a dealbreaker. (I have many of them lol) This gets him into an even worse position because I’ll ask straight forward if I need to, and he has the choice of lying or giving me to truth with no beating around it or silence. And if he does anything other than tell the truth then I say it’s safest to assume the worst and end it with him.
One lie or not telling me something I would need to know will send me away.
Great answer.. and agree
Lies are told, secrets aren't. There are lies by omission sure, but just because I don't tell you about my 21st birthday party at a strip club, 20 years before we met doesn't make it a lie. Maybe I've grown up in those 20 years and the things I wasn't ashamed of then, I am now... especially to you
Good answer... Did you have fun at the strip club 😂
That's a yes 😂
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Secrets and lies have nothing in common.
Lies are untruths.
Secrets are truths that are withheld from someone.
Lies are always a bad idea, in my opinion.
Secrets are discretionary, and can be good or bad depending on circumstances.
I'm assuming that you are referring to secrets and lies between two people in a relationship. Neither are good in that situation.
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"Discretion is the Better Part of Valor," one said. I can keep a secret, for one I promised to, but sometimes they challenge me, as to that Vow, with others.
I Don't lie, but I sometimes have to find a way to say TRUTH, in a certain way. . . Perhaps protecting all that are involved.
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Secrets can lead to a reveal like a birthday that made the secret worth it.
However, if an affair was a secret it's pretty much the same as a lie even if no questions were asked.
I think the key here, it depends on the secrets intention, is it for bad or for good? For selfish desires or selfless desires? That's the key between the two...
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It depends on what the secret is about. If you cheated or did something while you were in a relationship that would hurt your partner if they knew, then it's a lie. But I'm not one to share every single aspect of my life. I don't have to be an open book and share my innermost everything with my partner. I don't expect her to, either.
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No we are entitled to our own secrets and not forced to share them.
But that doesn't allow us to lie.
Sure sometimes keeping a secret requires lying and in such cases it depends on if we're hurting someone or protecting them but the concept remains
Well said.. and that's where the fine line
Secrets are not lies Infact they are hidden truths, and hidden truths kill relationship lies just gives some extentivity to something that's being hidden lies are extensions of hidden truths which may or may not be truth if you seee lies don't break relationships they help in maintaining it but yiu know you must know to use it well in limited quantity it's blissful but a granular extra and everything mesesses up it would be a lie to say that nobody lies in a relationship and are completely truthful but it depends on what or to what extent they are lying what's the purpose.
Unspoken silence and hidden truths are root cause of any broken relationship.
But fact is also sometimes truth makes more damage than lies you know bc nobody ain't no saint..
So a smart person is someone who can balance these elements like chemistry to form something useful
Not really their is a difference in my understanding. A secret is something that I won't tell you for whatever reason. A lie is when I tell you something that isn't true at all.
However both can definitely ruin relationships and friendships.
In my opinion it's okay to keep certain things secret either because they are not important or because you want to be protective of it.
Lying on the other hand is not okay since you're being dishonest.
However sometimes to maintain something a secret you have to lie which is problematic.
Both can be "lies of omission , but I think that some secrets can really play a useful role in life. Too many people we know just can't respect that.
My new line is, "Can you keep a secret?" To which they say "yes". And then I reply, "Well, so can I". and that is the end of that ! :- )
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Neither. They are radically different.
However, it's like a Venn diagram where there are some secrets, especially in relationships, that should be told and aren't. Those can feel like lies because when you find out you feel deceived. They are not lies technically, but it is still a breakdown in trust and in the communication of the relationship because the deception happened.
Very good points 👍 That's where the fine line comes in
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They are not the same. The only time a secret can be considered to be a lie is if in order to keep the secret the person lied.
If I want to keep something private, I just don't answer. But I won't lie. And it won't be something I know is a dealbreaker for the other person.
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Depends who the secret is hurting, and if the lie is constantly causing harm, it's one of the reasons that I practice confession at church, because I make mistakes, and owning up to it to a higher power is a good way to reduce that harm. If you talk about it to a priest he will support you in your journey of self improvement.
I don't have a secret.. I'm an open book
You have secrets because everyone finds you interesting, if the writing was bold and no one was licking their finger to turn the page got to get to the next chapter, no one would be interested in reading, the other idea I should express is that sometimes secrets are important, because they are valuable or dangerous, maybe sentimental, your mum might have had the best fried chicken recipe, but you are not going to share it with Daphne down the street, because she is not part of your family, if Daphne is doing the cooking the rest of the neighbourhood won't need your restaurant.
While a secret can be a lie, a secret is not of necessity a lie so they are not the same. A secret could be about a good surprise, for example. Or, like in my line of work, a secret could be a requirement. If I've signed a protective order I am not discussing the contents with anyone outside of those permitted to have access.
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Completely different to me... My mom's passing is a secret not often shared. My not informing people of this is in no way a lie or deception. Just not there f**king business, to
use this knowledge to hurt me in any way.
I understand what you mean
A secret is a lie of omission, however I believe the reason for the secret is more important then if it's considered a lie or not. As an example if you don't tell a child that there dog is dead you're trying to protect their feelings not decive them.
But sometimes that secret hurts the child more when they find out the truth
True enough, however the original question was "Is there a fine line between secrets and lies or do you think they're one and the same?" Not do lies hurt others?
Butt the fine line is cause both can be deceptive and both hurt when it comes out
A lie is when you tell someone something thats not true a secret is when you keep something from some. Secret can turn into lies but there is a fine line
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A lie means you intentionally said what you had to say to cover your ass. A secret isn't exactly lying because if you have nothing nice/truthful to say then you rather not say anything at all 🤷♀️
But what if it involves keeping a secret your partner has a right to know? Then at that point isn't it one and the same?
If they ask, then you’re not guilty of keeping the secret UNLESS it involves a life/death/healthscare situation
Big, big, big difference. I have secrets but there almost exclusively secret because they're protecting someone else. Lies on the other hand are usually used to protect the person telling the lie.
Nice breakdown.
I went with fine line but can see and understand how they are one in the same... depends on how big the secret is... if it's a big one, then definitely one and the same.
Yeah this is one that can have so many variables.. Like what the secret is and why they feel the need to keep it.. But if it's to deceive or to hold back wrong doing, I agree it's one and the same
Agree there
They're different things entirely. I don't lie in relationships at all but I doubt I'll ever tell another woman about my suicide attempt or subsequent hospitalisation in a psychiatric hospital in my early 20s. I don't consider that a lie.
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It's not a fine line between them. There is a vast gulf. They are totally different things.
There is nothing wrong with having secrets in a relationship. To expect someone to have no secrets us being too intrusive. People need their own space and privacy, even in a relationship. I seriously don't understand why it bothers some people.
But if their secrets that would affect the partner that is different
Keeping a secret about a surprise and keeping a secret that you're fucking around on your partner are way different. Purposely omitting the truth is lying. Most secrets lead to full on lies in the end. I absolutely loathe liars.
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There is a fine line between both but a lot of people have secrets and lies you should never lie to your partner about anything secrets when you and your partner are ready you should share them together instead of finding out later on from somebody you know
Not the same , keeping secrets is much better than telling lies to the face of someone , also 'chanakya' (an indian scholar) , made a statement 'Never tell your Secret To Anybody That May lead to Destruction of Your Life's , Reference 'Chankyaneethi'
That can be true
They're different.
Secrets are just things you don't want people to know. And secrets aren't by definition a bad thing.
A lie is always bad in my opinion, telling something that is not true.
Guess depends on the secret, some are bad
A lie is fundamentally not true.
A secret is something that isn’t or is seldom shared.
A secret can’t be a lie because there is nothing that is actually meant to be hidden. A lie by nature is to be told.
Secrets are not lies but can be used to disguise them For example A man was cheating with a girl in the mall His explanation He was there pricing up a gift hadn't wanted to tell you as it was supposed to be a surprise This is lie with a explanation for the secretcy
No I don't. I keep friends secrets I'm not lying to anyone. I'm just not announcing everyhing I know about a situation or person. Big difference to me
Well yeah agree there specially when we don't always know everything about a situation or a person like we think we do 🤷🏼♀️
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Depends on the secret, but honestly they are one in the same. One is a lie, one is a lie of omission.
Great answer, think I agree here
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First of all, a secret and a lie aren't the same at all. Don't get confused. Secondly, there's a fine line (pretty thick, actually) between lies and half truths 😉
Guess that depends on one's idea of the truth tho, their truth or THE truth
There is a difference you can be told a secret and if know one asks you about it how can you lie? You have to be responding to something to tell a lie you dont need to say anything to keep a secret
It’s hilarious when someone who keeps almost everything secret accuses a man of lying just because he kept a few things (that were none of her business) secret.
Secret is I fucked 3 guys in a day at college! And not telling that to the guys I currently date!
Lie is if they asked how many guys I fucked in a day and I lie saying only one..
I think that there is a fine line; many people tell lies to keep secrets.
Nice answer! That's true
Lies are a much stronger force to destroy relationships.
But sometimes secrets can as well
NOT telling a secret to your lover CAN or CANNOT be considered a lie. I consider it a lie but some people do not.
Its definitely a fine line. Sometimes its hard to navigate between the two
Well said.. I don't know I could go back and forth on this one... Guess depends on the secret and why they feel they have to keep it secret,... But if it's too decide someone, then that's just as wrong, bad as a lie
*deceive
I agree
Life can sure be confusing sometimes
Secrets are pretty different from lies.
For secrets it's just in your head and as you aren't telling anyone then that's clearly not lying. Also secrets are always truthful otherwise why would you keep it a secret.
For lying you are telling people fake truths and making stuff up, which is totally different from secrets.
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Thanks.. but if you keep a secret with the intention of deceiving that person, at that point aren't they one and the same?
Not necessarily as lying is verbal, you can't lie if you don't say anything. Deceiving someone doesn't always mean they're lying as they could be secretly planning to do something to hurt you emotionally but they don't tell anyone, that's just being secretive which isn't lying. Hope this clears it up 🙂
@Brainsbeforebeauty My close friend taught me secrets & lies are one and the same.
They can be
There's a fine line even though both are not meant to be told
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Your nick, should prevent you from those stupid presumptions or it is just target far away?
Excuse me?
Are is saying something that isn't true.
A secret is basically not saying what you know.
Secrets, are something you know or have found out about a person.
A lie is telling something that is not true...
They’re not different or similar. Lying is not telling the truth and secrets are just things you don’t say.
They are one and the same and also a fine line
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I am thinking there is a very fine line here.
Yeah I think that's the way I lean
A lie is your telling something untrue a secret your not telling anyone anything
Oh yes the sin of omission
Ah see yes 💯If it's because you know that's something that would change an outcome or decision it's still deceiving someone...
Yes not that I'm a bible thumper I believe you are correct
If I may complement you on explaining things with such clairety
Thank you
Not telling someone something, isn't a lie
But what if it's too deceive them, or it's something they do have a right to know as your partner?
They are Fine Line
It depends
They are different
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