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Do you believe that women who get into relationship with HVM (High value men) should expect cheating to occur? (Page 2)
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No. But they shouldn't be low-value women with high-value men (and we know what that means; trashy hoe women with good, educated successful men).
What is or isn't high value is relative, people shouldn't cheat, and guys who cheat are not high value to anyone who wants an SO.
Also there is no correlation between wealth, status, looks, and cheating.
people with more options are more prone to cheating than those with limited options. like it or not, there's always gonna be a compromise.
A guy is only as faithful as his opportunities and rich guys have all the opportunities they want.
Legit high value wouldn't cheat. Once they cheat, their value gets cut.
What makes him high value is the fact that a lot of women would want him in short if you are with a high value man you are extremely replaceable
@TacosRAwesome The definition of a HV man is that other men of value recognize him as a man of value. You're attempting to apply a female metric to a make standard. I man "cheating" has nothing to do w/ his value in fact it only validates the principals of HV men.
@Vegasrunner @TonightYouu the point is that he could but doesn't.
@TacosRAwesome LOL, that falls under female delusion. It goes the other way men who aren't able to cheat typically don't. If what youbwere saying is true please provide one example of a public HV man that hasn't been involved w/ cheating?
If he cheats he isn't a high value man.
High value men are loyal, have integrity and self control. If he doesn't have all of those traits, he isn't high value.
If were looking at shallowness then HVM in your description would probably cheat, because they can get any girl they want.
A high value man that honors god would not cheat. That is a real high value man.
I just don't get why they don't come out and say they want to fuck other women? Then they can find a woman who is ok with it, shit even likes it. My girlfriend is bi and loves if I hit it with other girls. Honestly much easier way to live.
I wouldn't consider an emotionally abusive cheater a "high value man"
HVM from general standpoint is not define by morality/ethics. Usually HVM is one who succeeds in at least 2 out of these 3 categories.
1. Looks
2. Money
3. Social Status
Not to me. You have to be an absolute scumbag to cheat... and adding children into it makes him even worse.
What in the world is a HVM? And how does Jason Derulo qualify?
no. beause "high value" would mean "they don't cheat"... no?
You would think that but a male's value is not inherent related to his morals/integrity. A man's value when it comes to dating is tied to 3 main factors: looks, money, social status. And men who are high value often get the option to spread their seed far and wide. Women often will tolerate bad behavior from these men and choose to spend years with them because they can't easily be replaced.
" a male's value is not inherent related to his morals/integrity" says who? that's just opinion.
Says facts/reality. We had a male user on her who was very religious and had strong ethics/morals. Dude loved his mother and listen to all this bluepill advice that women and some men would spread on this site. He never got a date and got played by women. And yet, he would constantly attack males that give spew redpill advice on how he can improve. The last article he ever made on this site was of him being excited of this girl he was working with showing interested in him. He then made a follow up article talking about how she was fucking with him and ended up accusing him of sexually harassing her.
women do go for looks and social status (which money is a part of). but if she's an equally high value woman, she won't let him get away with it. that only happens when there's a huge gradient.
you shouldn't be so concerned with redpill and blue pill social media nonsense. women aren't looking for a man 10 levels above them just to be walked over. yeah some of them will maybe make that mistake once but women aren't so dumb. they learn frommistakes.
it's like those dudes who become a cuck for a high value woman. a sad minority who does that permanently. most make that mistake once.
people usually learn that a huge gradient in socio economic status makes relationships imbalanced and unejoyable.
Except women will let a high value man walk all over them. The logic and reason for that is because these men cannot be easily replaced. While there are tons of men lined up willing to date a beautiful woman, these men will never have the status, money and looks needed to replaced said male. For example, Larsa Pippen, scotty Pippen's ex wife, is only willing to commit to a men who has comparable status to her ex regardless of their character/morals.
The only time women downgrade so badly from their ex is if they fear being abandoned again and wish to be in a relationship where they have complete control over the man. This usually done by the woman vetting to see how much of a simp the male is, his available dating options and whether she has complete control over him.
And yes women actually do enjoy being a relationship where there is a socioeconomic imbalance. Women wish to submit to a man and still often pick men who make more money than them when it comes to romantic relationship. Despite what feminist say of women wanting equality and abandoning gender norms, men are still expected to adhered to traditional values.
"Except women will let a high value man walk all over them". maybe a few will and only cause they're insecure/immature. stop watching this redpill/bluepill bullshit. it stuffs your brain with nonsense.
women are like you are basically. will you let a perfect 10 women walk all over you just to be with her? i don't think you're that dumb. women aren't that dumb either.
everyone shoots slightly up when looking for a partner. why settle for less? the notion you got that "women in general will let a high value man walk all over them" is straight false on a generalized level. there may be individual exceptions. i'm not denying that. but it's not a general thing.
everyone is immature and inexperienced at one point and doesn't know what they can or should expect. but for the vast majority of people this isn't a permanent life long state.
i would say there's some varying tendencies to sacrifice "some" relationship quality for social status/looks in a partner. but not to the extreme point you're triyng to make. so you're not categorically wrong. just too extreme.
This isn't from redpill/bluepill but actual reality corroborated by social experiments and men sharing their experience of female behavior. There is even one experiment that stood out to me, where a good looking male on his dating profile stated he was a sex offender but has changed. Women were still actively trying to date him.
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You have to understand that the world and dating/sex are vastly different between the sexes. The average woman has tons of average males all chasing her for sex/relationship. Male desperation is so bad that women have made a career out of it via twitch, onlyfans, camsites etc.
Thus, when a woman sees a guy who ticks off all the boxes of what she wants in a mate, she will often put up with a lot of bs that she otherwise would not for the average male. While for men, there are tons of beautiful women and options around that men can appreciate and if he can easily snag a girl just as good, he will put up with a lot less of her BS. The person who is more willing to walk away from the relationship has the power and in the case of a HVM with a woman, the power dynamic is skewed towards the man more willing to walk away. In general factors which determine whether you are willing to stay in a relationship is often determine by your dating options, level of self esteem and how smitten you are with a person.
Now let's move on to your question.
" will you let a perfect 10 women walk all over you just to be with her? i don't think you're that dumb. women aren't that dumb either."
I would not because as a man I can recognize that there are other dating options available towards me. However, for a lot of women this is not the case. The average male is not sexually desirable to a woman which is why guys often have to jester max, pay for dates and entertain women in order to win them over. They can't just attract them based solely on their physical appearance. When a woman meets a HVM who gets her wet, she is willing to hold on to that man and let him get away with more BS because there are not a lot of guys around that can make her feel sexual aroused.
"everyone shoots slightly up when looking for a partner. why settle for less? the notion you got that "women in general will let a high value man walk all over them" is straight false on a generalized level. "
Except it is true. We see it all the time with male celebs and good looking men on dating apps. We see it with girls crying their hearts out on social media when some chad never calls them back after blowing their backs out. We see it even with good looking average guys. Last year, NYC man was just ghosting women over and over and he kept getting women wanting to go out with him. Eventually those women that he ghosted decided to dox his name and work address on the internet.
i'm sorry, i can't take you seriously, cause you're trying to lecture me about the world with some andew tate level shallow bro science. i'm out.
no i dont think so and whats a high value male? Does that mean high net worth or what does that mean? If has has so much value why would he cheat?
As I consider to people who cheat as having no value, my answer is "No."
I would expect the WOMEN to cheat even more since for every "high-value" man there is always another "More high-value" man around. Hypergamy.
Naht that's not the case, our modern society only makes you believe that there is something better when its actually just an illusion. The grass is never greener on the other side. If you are with a good person, chances are you will never find something better as its only an illusion that there is something better around.
Choice makes us blind to see what we have. The less choice people have the better they would live and be way happier.
It doesn't matter if it's true or not. What is true is that women believe it's true and that is what counts.
Of course! Even average men cheat and they have way less options
90% of the women want 10% of the men so if you are in that 10% then you can have 90% of women
Just tell me where the high value is in someone, who cheats on you or the others?
But hey, this girl got it right and she's not the only one.
These women have "relationships" with HVM only in their heads. To these men, these women are just Fuck Buddy's.
Hence why I couldn’t stand Kevin Samuels. You should expect high value men to cheat on you but don’t you dare cheat on me because THAT’S wrong” 🙄
No. High value men can also be quite honest and would not cheat on their partner.
While I don't condone cheating in any form. The answer is yes. Nothing is free in life and guys are typically only as loyal as thier options.