+1 ySounds like you’re looking for marriage rather than boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. Normally, the way I was taught, is if you want someone to act a certain way, rather than confronting them (and upsetting them), you instead point them towards someone you admire. You talk about how amazing X is and you point out all of the good things about them. Ideally you want a historical figure since they have books written about them in a positive light. This is the best way to change someone from the ground up. Criticising someone for their actions is at best a Band-Aid. Today you don’t like the food drop offs, tomorrow you won’t like him complementing you excessively. Instead inspire him.
Just as a further note, get married before you do all this. boyfriend/girlfriend relationships are so futile that other than wasting time and catching sti/std, you don’t gain much.
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You are correct. I want someone I can marry and have kids with and start a life with. Once we do get to that point I’m going to let him meet my dad and I’m going to let him know how amazing he is. My dad has done stuff for me all my life in a way that isn’t too over the top but shows he cares about me and that’s essentially what I do want in a partner too
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+1 yHave an uncomfortable conversation and tell him to man up. He apparently wasn't able to learn this from his parents for whatever reason.
But dropping food off to you when you're sick sounds like a weird example. Did you not let him inside or he didn't want to come in? Doesn't really seem simply to me by itself.
Maybe what you're feeling is less about him simping and more of an anxious feeling that stems from a subconscious feeling of responsibility to return the favor and you can't fathom equally reciprocating because society has given you so much conflicting information on what a relationship between a man and a woman is.
It's hard to make sense out of so it's easier for our heads to just say: oh, he's just doing that because he's insecure or desperate or doesn't value something about himself.
You seem like a down to earth person, I'm curious what specifically about this bothers you.
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He insisted on dropping it off without seeing me, like basically him dropping it off with nothing in return for his out of the way action. It just made me uncomfortable because it’s only been two weeks and stuff that is so far out of the way being done for me makes me uncomfortable. It makes it harder to reject someone if say I don’t end up liking the person he is because all the nice gestures cloud up what I really feel. In the new future I’ll be more open to those kinds of gestures , but sooner or later he will learn to just surprise me if he wants to do something with nothing being returned
+1 yHe may love you. When some dudes are genuinely smitten, they can't help themselves. Also, if his love language is gift giving or acts of service, then he's acting out via his own way.
There is a psychology / personality phenomenon that simp men often have, and sadly they frequently wind up getting used by women as paypigs or servants. At least you're a decent enough person to recognize this and feel like you're not entitled to stuff from him.
You may just have to have a sit down and ask him outright why he wants to simp for you and where he wants the two of you to go in the future.
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Okay. You didn't say that part.
Yeah, he probably is a genuine simp then (not the insult connotation that word carries now). He probably won't stop, so you'll have to break it off with the guy. - +1 y
I think I’m going to try to place boundaries and possibly talk to him. Just like a genuine woman doesn’t need all that to be satisfied. I actually get overwhelmed by it lol if he doesn’t stop after that I’m going to cut ties because I don’t want my partner to see themselves as less than me
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That's very honorable and commendable! I wish you the best.
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Thanks for MHO!
+1 yAs much as what he is doing could be considered as nice, I understand how overwhelming and annoying it might be for you. Also, you should be careful since he might be love bombing you. Look it up. I'm not trying to scare you, but it has happened to a lot of women (and men). Or this might just be his way of showing affection.
My suggestion is to have a face-to-face conversation about this. Let him know that you appreciate his gesture, but at the same time, it is also making you a tad uncomfortable, and you would much rather prefer to go slow. Tell him how you feel. Some people genuinely do not realize what they are doing unless someone tells them.
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I’m aware of love bombing. I was in an abusive relationship and was once again recently love bombed with the last person I talked to. So now I’m not engaging in sex for a while with anyone I talk to and I’m also more so looking for compatibility more than love gestures. We talked about it today, I did ask him why he felt the need to do that and he did open up to me about abuse with his ex that she did to him. Constantly making him be basically a pleaser to her. I didn’t invalidate his experience because I do want him to believe my story of abuse but I am also keeping in mind about behaviors and actions because some guys will tell stories about their ex to deflect their actions so I’m more likely to justify them. But I’m going to definitely focus on actions and compatibility
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That's good. Did he say that he would stop his behavior?
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Yes he did. He even said he now understands my views of taking things a bit slower. I do think I’m his first potential situation since that last relationship so I think he’s anxious but I do want someone compatible for me too and I can’t handle another person that doesn’t view a relationship as two equals. I’m not even comfortable with men simping for me when they don’t have the intent on dating behind it to begin with. It’s overwhelming
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It looks like he is still processing things from his last relationship. He is getting used to something new with you and it might take a while. Be patient and let him know whenever something bothers you. It does not look like he is simping just because he is a "simp". He was in an emotionally abusive relationship in the past and it still has a huge impact on him, and that's understandable. But I'm glad you are being careful.
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I’m still processing my abusive relationship as well so that’s why I’m chancing his out because I’ve definitely pushed people away before due to my trauma and just assuming their kind gestures were love bombing when in reality a lot of the men that I know for a fact love bombed me weren’t even that nice about their love bombing , they just knew what I liked and it worked in their favor. Pretty easy for me to pick up when someone is potentially abusive. Next time I’m going to ask him though if I am the first person he’s considered since that time frame, from what he said it seems to be that way but can’t confirm
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Makes sense, both of you are overwhelmed from your past relationships, so this might take a while. Be direct with him. It's ok to proceed with caution.
Yep, do ask him. - +1 y
You ladies honestly ruin relationships with this kind of overanalyzing shit. Anytime a guy really really likes y'all you get all paranoid and ruin it somehow. He’s just into you, sheesh! He doesn’t wanna play any dumb games and hold back. Accept a man who wants you! What I always see happening is a woman projects all the shit from her last relationship and actually ruins a good thing. How about just try and do some breathing exercises, calm down. There must be other things you can think about!
Tl; dr sometimes it ent love bombing, he just really likes you, have the self esteem to believe that is possible and the wisdom to not find fault in his kindness towards you - +1 y
@Shamalien I am allowed to reject kind gestures if I do want to. He has done other things for me and I have accepted them but there’s just some things I do find overwhelming and I am allowed to feel that way and place a boundary when things become too much
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@Shamalien why would I ever complain about a boundary I put up when I simply said to him is that what he does for me would never go under appreciated. He offered to bring me food today also
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+1 yBehavior like this usually comes from deep rooted insecurity of losing the person. So they make that person their entire world and life. He might stop the behavior but is he working on a passion or purpose in life? Or will he now just obsess in private over you? Make sure his actions also match his words. Does he cancel plans or activities with friends in hopes to just see you? Lot's to look at hear. Simping behavior is just the ramifications of some kind of trauma.
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I just posted a MyTake about GAG trolls. This is the existential example. lol
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@kylee2437
"Men like you are toxic and try to invalidate other peoples feelings"
You got this shit the other way around. I'm validating the every living fuck out of your feelings. If you Feelings leave you emotionally distraught to this degree, then you need to ditch that shit and get professional psychological help. Trauma like that becomes malignant behavior that spreads. - +1 y
@coachTanthony he sounds miserable as hell tbh lol
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They always are.
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@kylee2437
Never said you couldn't have boundaries. All I'm saying is that if that guy dropping off soup triggers a Fight or Flight response, maybe you should cut him off. - +1 y
@coachTanthony Art comes from misery.
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@kylee2437
It's fine to have boundaries, but your going to fuck that guy up deep in ways you couldn't understand. - +1 y
Okay Kylee now this is on you. You keep entertaining this guy... why... I have no idea. You obviously won't change his mind.. he's not worth a bucket of snot... so have fun good luck.
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Wasn't talking about you. Got some feel good advice to give some demoralized 20 something before they Make a Jackson Pollock in their shitbox studio apartment? - +1 y
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@coachTanthony
The Comedy of accidental dialog.
4.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. The underlying issue, whether boy or girl, is one can not will, curse, project, or stick pins into chickens UNTIL the other individual loves you.
The outcome is turning one who likes you into one that first dodges you, no eye contact, eye contact-turn go opposite direction, and eventually stay F away. But yet Simp, you change not.
It doesn’t take a Genius to realize, “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different Results.”(Albert Einstein).00 Reply
+1 yWell he’s being very nice to you. If you don’t want someone doing something. Ask him to stop. Better yet if you feel guilty repay the favor. Go drop him off food and do the things back he’s doing to you.
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+1 yYou just need to talk to him. Openly and honestly. Let him know the 'long-version' of what you said here. He wouldn't do this if he knew how you felt about it. This one is easy. Talk. 🙂
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u +1 yTell him you need for him to act more like a man and less like a mouse.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWhy does he need to be "equal" to you? Do you like talking to yourself in the mirror, or do you enjoy talking to a human being?
Everyone is not equal, and nor do you want them to be. If you want you to enjoy a date with someone who does not treat like a human being, you can always call one of your 15 ex-piece-of-shit boyfriends.
Stop wasting this good man's time and go back to one of your shitty ex-boyfriends. They're your equal. Let a good woman get this good man, and you can be with one of your equals because that's what you are attracted to.
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Or how about I’m not wasting his time and I’m making him realize he doesn’t need to degrade himself for my attention. In my opinion if a man needs to drop off food for a woman without her even showing her face, that’s a form of degradation. I believe he is a human and deserves to at least see me if he is willing to go out of his way to bring me food. Lol I don't know why some men are taking this out of context. I don’t want to be treated like I’m WAY above him.
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+1 yHave you read the book, The Five Love Languages?
It’s a book about how different people tend to express love differently, but it’s important to express love in the way that’s most compatible with your partner.
This sounds like this “simpy” behavior is just the way that he naturally expresses his love/feelings towards you.
However, you can let him know a better way of communicating that with you and how you appreciate these gestures, but you prefer him to express his love in a different way for you.
So, I suppose the short answer to your question is I believe you need to have a candid conversation with him about these gestures and how you’d appreciate it if he went with a different approach because it honestly weirds you out a bit with the unexpected power-imbalance.00 Reply 1.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic. When I was dating many years ago, the word simp did not exist. However, I still know what you are meanung to say here.
What we used to call it was he was putting you up high on a pedestal and you feel uncomfortable being there. It's like he's graveling for you and would get on his hands and knees if you just asked him to. And yes, it does make him seen to be the lower of the two of you.
Usually when a guy was like that when he liked me, I couldn't handle it because I am kind of an alpha female. I needed someone masculine. I needed someone to at least be on the same page as me going through life.
If you settle and just try to change him into what you want her m to be then that us not fair to him.
So, each of you need to find people with a similar personality and that would be a better fit.
The only person you can change is yourself.
And I think the old wives tale that opposites attract us a lot of whooey!
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou need to tactfully tell him the truth. I know you don’t want him to do a 180 on you. He won’t flip on you if your honest with him.
However if this keeps up I predict pure agony will come his way (you will cheat on him, break up and try to friéndzone him, etc.).
Sadly he was brainwashed to treat women this way. He probably was raised by a very controlling mother who taught him to always put women up on a pedal stool. Also lots of women always “say” they like this. But this affectionate caring behavior is only pleasing the right moments. He doesn’t know how to time that so he just does that all the time.
Truth is I feel really sorry for this guy. Extremely sorry. I was semi like this in my youth and it’s an extremely difficult to unlearn crap that was pounded into your head since childhood (e. g. always be nice to girls no matter what).
He’s got a very difficult road in front of him when it comes to romance. Much more worse than most guys.
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+1 yYou have to be careful in your discernment here. Could he be "love bombing"? Yes of course. He could also be trying to be a decent human being. Try to put the best construction on it, but be smart as well.
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+1 yDate someone else. It's fake. He is a simp. And if you tell him it pleases you to have him not act like a simp, he's just going to simp and do what you say. If he wasn't really a simp he would say idgaf im being nice and if you don't like it go with someone else. The fact that he would change for you just proves he's a total simp.
Guys do this same nonsense too. Girl is a ho and they say we'll I don't want a girl who hooks up so let's not have sex until we been dating awhile. The fact she would have banged you within 5 minutes of meeting you is still the fact whether she did it or not.
00 Reply A uniquely American phenomenon. Once again, you CHOSE him. That's what you CHOSE. It's your bed. Lie in it. You could go to the opposite end of the spectrum like most do and choose the ex con, dope dealing baby daddy... and you'll be needing a "good guy" to cry to about how "unfair it is" how that guy will treat you. Once again, you'd CHOOSE that. Welcome to equality. I get told every day to take responsibility. EVERY DAY. So do you. I love equality.😎
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf you're seeing these things as potential 🚩🚩🚩 red flags then end it now for your own sanity. My exGF was emotionally abusive and controlling in my last relationship too. Recently I stopped dating a woman because of the warning signs I was noticing regarding very similar behaviour and due to how overbearing she was trying to be.
00 Reply616 opinions shared on Relationships topic. I don't really see dropping off food for someone who is sick as simpy, but you have to be honest and have a conversation about it.
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I don’t see it as simpy in itself but many women would take advantage of this quality and just have him drop off food at the door with no regards to see him and say hi. It’s just not my style. If someone is going to go out of their way to bring me food, I would never disrespect them and not say hi. It’s rude
+1 ySimps are going to simp. He's probably just really blue-pilled. You sound like you want an equal instead of a man-servant.
00 ReplyYou can't make it stop until you tell him that you get irritated by this behaviour. If it doesn't stop, you should move on and find someone else
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I actually talked it out with him today and I asked him if there was a reason why he felt the need to do it. And it did get deep and I just basically told him that any genuine person does not expect you or want you to Uber eats them basically lol like if you offer to bring me food, yes I’m going to come out and at least say hi because I’m not a piece of crap person.
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Yeah I agree. For me also is there’s no guarantee of a relationship right now because for me at this point compatibility is most important so doing all the way things for me like that example isn’t really proving compatibility and it’s more likely to end up someone in disappointment if per say I don’t want to be with them
+1 yMaybe if you tell him that he is simping then he will notice he is simping and stop simping
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Then make it clear what's simping and what isn't I guess
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yHe's not your equal, you're the superior Female. There's no such thing as an equal relationship, and he wants to be your submissive. You're in a perfect position, and you want to throw it away over some romantic notion about equality?
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Opinion Owner+1 yWomen would kill to be in your position of power, girl.
Opinion Owner+1 yYou're not using a man just because you are the lead in the relationship. Someone leads, someone follows. 50/50 is an illusion. You'll find out, stay sweet.
+1 yA man that is your equal won’t exhibit simp behavior because he will have more options than you
And what’s simpy about feeding a sick girl you like stop thinking you’re better than him
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Where did I say I was better than him? I literally brought up this behavior as a concern because in no way do I want him to exhibit in more behavior that doesn’t make him look equal. Him dropping off food to my house while I’m home and accepting me not popping out to say hello to him real quick is not acceptable. Any girl that allows a man to just drop off food and not say hello to him does not view him as an equal. Why? Because I simply wouldn’t do the same for him simply being we have only been talking for a week and he hasn’t earned that kind of energy from me plus he should respect himself to know that a woman accepting such gestures is over the top at most.
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And to add to this to specify , he feels like he doesn’t have a lot of options because he does have herpes and I decided to accept it (I’m not looking for sex right now so it’s not a bother) so I am probably one of the few girls that has accepted that due to stigma , so yeah I do feel like he has self esteem issues. I just want to address to him that he doesn’t need to do out of the way things to prove he’s the one for me
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That’s just says more about who you are as people and honestly he is too good for you I know girls with boyfriend who wouldn’t give a fuck about them if they were sick or even in the hospital they’d love a guy who would at least bring them something to eat
No a thoughtful person like that always has more options he should be with someone who loves him enough to look past his herpes and have sex with him or at least beat him off you are just wasting his time
Please leave this guy alone so he can be with someone who really appreciates him - +1 y
Lmao try not to comment with emotional aspects this time. Me and him have only talked for a week. He’s not a boyfriend, he is someone I am simply talking to. So yes his sweet gesture of going out of the way is amazing of him, but it’s not necessary either. I haven’t proved that I am a worthy girl of that and I feel like after only a week there’s no way any person can be worthy of over the top out of the way stuff. At this point of our talking , I do like my partner to feel like they are an equal to me and I personally don’t like when men treat me like a goddess. I am not a goddess, I am a human. There’s slimey women that do take advantage of men like that and I personally have no interest on taking advantage of him, so what did I do? I explained to him that if he did ever drop off food for me in the future I would come out and at least greet him so he can see how happy it made me. You aren’t reading the full text and you keep talking out of your ass
Secondly, I am accepting his herpes BUT I am also treating him like every other person I have talked to and there is no guarantee of a relationship as it’s only been a week and I can’t picture myself with someone when I have only known them for a week. Get over it - +1 y
I said what I had to say stop stringing him along and wasting his time you seriously need therapy if you think you are unworthy of a guy being kind to you you really shouldn’t even be dating or seeing anyone at all you’re a time waster
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+1 yYeah, speak your mind. Tell him that you're not comfortable with him doing that.
00 Reply 1.8K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Find a guy who doesn't want to do shit for you, a guy that doesn't care enough about you to go out of his way for you.
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+1 yIt’s only “simpy” if you don’t plan to reciprocate. But, you are technically in the honeymoon phase, so just give it a few months and he will start treating you like a normal human person.
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+1 ySoon, simp will be all you women can get, enjoy the men that are more of a woman than the women are.
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All these single mother are raising their sons up like girls. You ladies should love this. It will be like having one of the girls in the house. Men's fertility rates are dropping like a rock. By the year 2045, men will be for the most part sterilized. This is great news
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Sound like he's a better woman that you are. He's too nice to you, does that mean you would like him better if he slaps you around a little? We know you girls love the bad boys that treat you like trash.
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But look who I'm talking to? I need to talk to him for about an hour. Will you let me?
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It doesn't mean the husband's is his father. I don't cars if his parents are married or not. He has put way too much value on you. I need to talk to him.
361 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well there are plenty of guys who will beat the shit out of you. Find one of those guys.
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+1 yYou tell him and make sure it's a lesson he will never forget by then leaving him and finding someone who doesn't do these things.
00 Reply442 opinions shared on Relationships topic. He's a nice guy, wanting to do nice things for you. And you want him to be less nice?
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So where it’s degrading is the idea of me being home and him having the expectation of me not showing my face and at least coming out and saying hi. Like in terms of him doing something nice for me and then him not even being able to see how much I appreciated what he did in the first place
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Yeah we actually did end up talking about it yesterday because I asked him why he felt like I would disrespect him by not coming out of my house at least. He said he would get yelled at by his ex if things didn’t go perfectly to her liking so I’m trying to tell him that like stuff that he does for me will never go under appreciated. The problem has been solved , I was just feeling a little anxious yesterday
1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Try being more like him instead of trying to change him. You can not change others, you can only change yourself.
00 ReplyJust tell him that the things he's doing are lovely but you would like him to stop
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+1 yYou shouldn't have to ask but looks like you have no other opiton.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yOoof! Yeah--if you want to fix that, you're going to need to date a less simpy guy!
00 Reply3.6K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Do you have any other examples?
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+1 yExaggerate the situation.
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+1 yTell him to man up and stop being a simp
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yall men are dog
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Opinion Owner+1 yThink of him as a dog and train him by giving reward small biscuits.
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