What is a modern woman/man? Also what is the difference from being traditional?

[Justneedtokno]

I consider myself a traditional woman with a modern twist. Meaning, there are traditional gender roles for me, but I also would like a partnership I’m not going to let my man be burdened with all the bills I will only submit to a man that is leading it the right direction God first

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Do you feel as if a lot of women in this generation are pushed to be modern women, because they cannot put their total trust in men in partial the to blame how they were raised if there was no male figure in the picture or their father was not fully invested in being the provider, protector and all

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Also, do you think that only more attractive women get the chance to be a traditional woman versus less attractive women, and they must be forced into being modern

[Chazmatazz269]

It doesn’t matter what you are “pushed” toward. The ONE thing feminism needed to do is allow women to take responsibility for their own choices. It’s literally the only thing pretty much all women could agree on. Equality begins with the freedom to choose for yourself. Unfortunately, too many women are too happy to blame their poor choices on men or society as “patriarchy”, or whatever their own internal pressures were at the time. None of that matters when you’re grown. Life is full of choices. thanks to consequences, some choices are harder than others. Once you grow up and put on your big girl panties it’s time to take responsibility for the choices you made for yourself. That includes the choice to let other people make choices for you if you were too chicken shit to go out and handle your own business.
What’s really messed up is that generations of women have been so successful with dodging accountability for so long, that the boys all these women raised grew up to think that’s how the world works. Now we have entire generations of men and women both who refuse to accept responsibility for their lousy choices. They’re happy to accept the trophy when they do well, but when they don’t they need someone else to blame. The west is rapidly becoming a culture of overgrown children because feminists ignored the accountability part of equality. Welcome to modern men and women!

[Justneedtokno]

OK what responsibility and accountability do you think these women and men need to take up for the choices that they made or the choices that were given to them and it? What are these choices stating that a chosen so badly?

[Chazmatazz269]

All of them. It reads as though you’re on that same train. Once you become an adult, and you have the right to make your own choices, you are 100% responsible for the consequences of those choices. That’s it. That’s life. You don’t get to take credit when everything goes great and then shift blame when it doesn’t. If you make a mistake, own it. Otherwise you’ll never learn from it. Spend your whole life telling other people how to behave to make YOUR life better. You have neither the right nor the responsibility to do that. Your quality of life is entirely your own doing.

[Justneedtokno]

I get what you’re saying it just seem separate from what I was asking. Yes I am accountable for the choices I’ve made, but I also believe that it get the influence by what Has in place. How people are raised.
Also, you don’t think certain events in peoples lives doesn’t influence how they make choices? Or have the choice to make the decision in the first place

[Chazmatazz269]

Nope. Just the opposite. Life doesn’t dictate our choices. Our choices dictate our lives. It demands a higher level of personal accountability to reach this understanding and a great deal of acceptance to live by it. I think the biggest factor is the age at which we learn personal accountability and acceptance. I learned personal accountability extremely young, but acceptance came very late.

[Justneedtokno]

I’m just gonna agree to disagree on this one

[Chazmatazz269]

This isn’t a matter of agreement or disagreement. I’m speaking in absolute facts. Feel free to provide proof to the contrary. Or even provide examples of how a person can be any given situation with ABSOLUTELY no choices available to them.

[Justneedtokno]

You’re literally born who you are whatever struggles issues surrounding issues environmental issues it’s all proven, and you succeed from those situations. Yes, there’s a change and manipulate the way you think and how you react and how you do things yes as I said, I will agree to disagree That’s the facts

[Lionman95]

I would say that a traditional person is family focused or focused on a relationship in their choice of lifestyle and values while a modern woman/man is more focused on themselves and achieving their goals. For me the difference between the both of them is that traditional minded people know and acknowledge that men and women are different and a relationship is a give and take where it´s not possible that they can always have it their way.

Like in modern relationship a compromise seems like a weakness and if you don´t get long you break up, in a traditional relationship people try to figure out how to reach a compromise and try to make it work even if there are hard times.

I´m not sure if women are pushed to become more "modern", I just a tendency that guys are not taught how to be straight forward and how to lead and date well. That way women have to take more responsibility and have a harder time finding a good and compatible partner for themselves.

[Justneedtokno]

This has been the best answer and most helpful answer that I’ve read. You make sense no hate no bashing of either genders. Thank you.

[Lionman95]

You're welcome. I've spent some time thinking about it.

[DizzyDesii]

I would say I’m more moderate rather than simply more modern or traditional. I have a few ways with each. In terms of my morals, values, abstinence and monogamous beliefs, thats likely more old school, or ig traditional. I’m also not big on all this technology based stuff from streaming to social media. And I’d never put a career over my future family since I only see work as a means to an end. In terms of stepping up in the workplace, being open to sexual discussion, not dressing as girly, and not being as “submissive” in a relationship, all of those probably make me a bit more modern. I also like to be my own provider and not depend on a guy financially. But in the end, I’m more about fairness than equality. So all of this is why I feel I’m somewhere in the middle. I don’t pick sides when I’m the best/worst of both.

[DizzyDesii]

As for your update, my moms bad taste in men didn't cause me not to NOT trust men. I trust everyone until I’m given a reason not to. And as for the being attractive aspect, I don't know what you mean because I have attracted other moderate people. I don’t think I’d get along for long with someone who is too much of one side. Same goes with politics, I prefer someone with a moderate view over someone who would choose a lesser of two evils

[Apple1996]

Modern women are the ones that work and aren't dependent on their man. Traditional women stay home to care for their husband, kids, house and are dependent on their man.

I really don't see it anything past that since a relationship itself should be 50/50 give and take both ways.

[Guy13]

Traditional is a heterosexual marriage. Modern man/woman is everything else that is nonsensical like same-sex where the parts are the same and don't function to MFF to whatever other deviance the fallen mind can come up with.

[Djaay]

Traditional family foundation started with GODS commandments as a minute minority. That ballooned into a dark institution of chaos through others who weren't of GODS spirit.. Those who didn't conform to GODS spiritual standards did everything in they're power to imply they're own discourse in its paridym. Modern people today follow the way of witchcraft and its darker ways.

[Anonymous]

To me a traditional woman is one who places the care and wellbeing of her family and children above her career ambitions.

[Justneedtokno]

What happens before you have children? You’re just two people married together

[Opinion Owner]

She focusses more of her time and energy on domestic chores, and making the house a home, cooking, and he focusses more of his time and energy on his career, the yard, maintaining, updating, repairing the home, etc. But to me, the biggest differences come into play when children enter the picture.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No idea. Modern man and woman? Sounds incredibly stupid.

As if a man and woman are objects that become a newer different version. 🙄

A man is a man and a woman a woman. That will never change.

[FilmGuy93]

"Modern" just means that the traditional idea of gender roles has been tossed aside. The woman takes greater charge in the relationship; that sort of thing.

[Anonymous]

A modern woman is an entitled narcissistic brat asshole who plays victim but also calls themselves “strong and independent” while expecting all the benefits provided by society for being female and refusing any disadvantages that would make them equal.

A modern man is a bitch cuck soy male who has been emasculated by the feminist cancer and believes the bullshit that women are less privileged and will shame and attack a male for telling them the truth.

[Jamie05rhs]

All of those terms are basically meaningless, because they can be interpreted in so many different ways.

[Jamie05rhs]

A less attractive woman can still have a traditional relationship. She just has to find a guy who is attracted to her.

[NathanDavis]

modern people usually make it to their 70's...

traditionally... people would die around their 30's for one reason or another

[Zayed_]

I’m just leaving this 💣👀 here and I will go my way.

[Anonymous]

A man provides, protects, and leads. A woman brings peace, takes care of the home, and supports. That’s traditionalism in a nutshell

[Paul09]

Traditional = You're a nanny. Follow religions like sheep.

Modern = freedom, equality.

[Cubus]

Not much people know actually.

They believe "modern man/woman" is someone who is not traditional. The problem is they don't really know

[Cubus]

is they don't really know what "traditional man" is.

[Sixgunsound]

You have the right idea. Don't settle for a man who does not.

[Sixgunsound]

Update: I think the feminist movement, which owns education and much of entertainment, is trying to make modern women into men in a vain attempt to compete like men for money and power. I maintain that we are equal in value but men and women are not the same, and no amount of feminist dogma or legal or social compulsion will change that. There are strengths and weaknesses to both genders, and both will profit by playing to their strengths and trusting the other to cover their weaknesses. As a two parent species those are the traits we evolved to survive, and fighting that is the height of insanity.

[Sixgunsound]

Update #2: I think more attractive women have a better chance of riding the cock carousel and being queen Bee at the office and getting promotions just like more attractive men have netter chances with women and being dominant at work and getting more promotions more quickly. The 'modern' concept for women seems to be out 'man' men, and everyone involved loses. People closer to the middle of the conventional attractiveness scale have to bring more to the table than looks, and as a result tend to be better, more reasonable, more likeable people with personalities and skills and work ethic. I'll take an awesome person towards the middle of the attractiveness chart over a hot but mentally unstable 9/10 every time.

[SpokenTruth]

The modern man has no rights where as the modern women is privileged and the modern man stays away from the modern woman.

[OddBeMe]

Nothing. Just bullshit labels by people trying to divide us.

[Jennz6]

Amen honey 💯🙏