Does an open relationship or marriage still have love and loyalty if both are honest?

[Anonymous]

Unlike cheaters that go behind your back, in open relationships or marriages they actually communicate with each other and even know who they're going to bring home or be intimate with. I guess that counts as honesty. So given there is an agreement, communication, honesty and understanding between them, would that count as a loving, loyal relationship?

Do open relationships or marriages still have love and loyalty?

[ApplePie409]

I tried to find a couple of YouTube videos for you, but it's like looking for that proverbial needle in a haystack.

Both videos were about polyamory. That word is of Latin origin.

Poly = more than one

Amory = love

So one video was about a poly triad. In this case it was a woman with two boyfriends, and they all lived under the same roof. One of her boyfriends told her that he met someone and was going out on a date! Holy crap! That went over like a fart in church.

In another video, it was two poly couples living under the same roof. One night one of the husbands snuck off into the bedroom of the other couple for a threesome.

Wow! That went over like a fart in church when he got busted,

And just to clarify, swinging is not about love, and poly supposedly is. I call bullshit on poly and open relationships.

[PeachyPie93]

You don't love someone that you can watch fuck someone else. That is my perspective in love everyone gets jealous when you don't care, you aren't in love. You might care about them and like them but you do not love them if you don't mind sharing them.

[Anonymous]

If you think that Open Relationships/Marriages are OK then you need to think of how it will affect any children of ANY of the couple or partners, below is an insight from the POV of a son whose parents did the above, it ain't pretty;

https://www.youtube.com/embed/07M5BR7Bp84

[PavlovsCogk]

Where is the misandrist ex-moderator 30-35 with her opinions? ﾠ

[AI Opinion]

Absolutely, open relationships or marriages can indeed foster love and loyalty, maybe even in spades! The key ingredients you outlined—agreement, communication, honesty, and understanding—are like the secret sauce to any thriving relationship, open or otherwise. It's like choosing to dance freely with each other, knowing you're both coming back to the same home base, because that's where your hearts truly lie. When couples navigate this with respect and clarity, it underscores a profound trust and affection that's not just about physical fidelity but emotional integrity and freedom. So yes, open relationships, when done right, arenwen't just about sharing love; they're about multiplying it, all while keeping loyalty in the VIP section of their hearts.🔥💕

[Finchie40]

Fake Love and un loyalty , it’s 2 selfish people choosing to have sex with other people while having sex with each other , it’s dirty and degrading period , and they are at high risk of catching STD’s , so if you consider that True Love? Good luck to you. It’s convenience not Love

[Summeroflove]

I don’t know… it seems more of a sexual lust. Maybe for a time…. But these relationships hardly last. It’s never something I would do or recommend. Sure cheaters suck but I don’t think these relationships will work

[Kreneman]

There is love and loyalty with honesty in a open relationship but the same time it still equals to lust, and that is one of the main reasons why most open relationships fails. The Couples that can handle it, is very rare but it is still a struggle compared to monogamous relationship. Swinger couples or Swinger Polyamory couples with balance are some of the solutions that keeps couples like that in check because of fresh meat, they're never alone, and they will always have many options to satisfy them which is another reason why its a tuff decision to be involved in that type of relationship.

[TheRealPepperPotts]

How can they possibly be considered loyal? Loyal to what? Their non-loyality?

My thought is that it can't last. It is difficult enough for two people to work through their differences and maintain unity. From my perspective, it's enabling, permissive and delusional.

[Asker]

Since the definition of loyalty is giving or showing a firm allegiance to someone, technically it can be argued that since both are honest and still will return back home to them while the others are flings for sex (but no emotional connections), that would be being emotionally loyal. It's different from sexual, physical loyalty.
I don't understand it either. My best friend and her husband are and have always been swingers and are ok with that lifestyle. Yeah I don't understand that.

[TheRealPepperPotts]

I hear you, and it must be really strange to be on the receiving end of their perspective. I can see how it would be very challenging to maintain the balance of being understanding of your best friend's choices while maintaining your own views and opinions.

I am not going to pretend to be an academic, but I think if that's your friend's argument, it is a weak one, personally. It's attempting to change the widely understood and accepted meaning of loyalty in order to create peace in their own mind with living a lifestyle that is not status quo. They've agreed to do that together, which is their choice. But to try to control how they are going to be viewed in a society where that is generally frowned upon? I think that's a little concerning.

[Zenpanda]

Definitely, there is a big difference between love and lust.
People in an open relationship realise that and hold that as a steadfast rule.
If you can't differentiate, you shouldn't be in an open relationship.
And that's okay too, if it's not for you, don't do it.

[Asker]

yeah that's a unique lifestyle. For instance, I'll never understand how swingers can be so happy with that and not get jealous.

[Zenpanda]

That's because they pretty much treat sexual partners like watching porn and masturbating.
It's just sexual relief, nothing more.

[MsProsperity]

Open relationships and marriages are fake, they consist of people who don’t love each other. You cannot love someone and be okay with sharing them, there’s no love there. When you love something you become selfish about it

[Asker]

Love can be different for other though. They probably don't consider sexual exclusivity as love but rather just the emotion itself.

[elizamichale1]

Yes ofcourse honey... me n my partner love each other soooo dearly n can't live without one another... and yet we see other people sexually... and we have never had any problems

[Trevelyan88]

It could have love, but not the kind we all hope to have with a partner.


More like great friends that love eachother.

[Asker]

yeah it's still love but a different type of love.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I think it can be if it works out and doesn't cause problems. But I know some people would say it isn't a marriage or that it's still cheating.

[dustybiker2]

It rarely is the case. It's really just one taking advantage and both lacking courage to see the end and move on to something healthier.

[HighValue]

They don't love each other. They also have little to no self control and give in to temptation because they have very weak willpower.

[Berethor]

Open relationship basically have a license to cheat, so there is not real loyalty there.

[gorydetails]

It's just cheating with a pretense of being open and understanding. Real emotions and reactions will end up happening and ruin the relationship.

[Jaynird]

Wouldn’t work for me. I believe you give your heart to one person and you give all of yourself to them. Plus I don’t want to share. At what point do you get jealous that they might enjoy the other person more.

[TonyMetal___86]

There ain't no such thing called open marriage, a marriage is sacred and has it's own rules!
Marriage means love & union between one man and one woman only!

[AlleyMarie92]

Yes but you and your partner have to put in the love and work for a good and happy marriage or relationship.

[DrPepper12]

Of course!! Love and loyalty aren't zero sum game like pie!!!

[jahaims]

No, it is for broken people who aren't introspective enough to heal their trauma

[KrakenAttackin]

An open relationship is a failed relationship.

[Asker]

I guess in a way, a failed relationship that still has honesty is better than infidelity. I have no idea how my good friend and her husband manage to work it out. Both of them were swingers before they got married and still are and yet seemed happy. I can't understand that mentality.

[KrakenAttackin]

The husband is a damn fool.

[marish01]

How is it love if they love others' genitalia?

[Finchie40]

It isn’t love , it’s selfishness , they only love themselves, they do not know how to give the same way they want to receive in return it’s 2 selfish people that are using each other as a convenience , it’s pretty much a way that they can both cheat on each other while sugarcoating it to each other , making it seem like what they are doing is ok. I see no point of even being in a relationship with someone that you can’t be loyal and faithful to , whoever falls for this nonsense is a complete moron , , it will just be a matter of time before one of them falls deep for another person and leave their so called partner high and dry. It’s 2 selfish people stringing each other along until they find a better option , there is no Love between them just convenience