
If you are an average guy, would you choose to date the pretty single mom on the left or the less attractive single girl on the right. Realistically, those are your choices.

If you are an average guy, would you choose to date the pretty single mom on the left or the less attractive single girl on the right. Realistically, those are your choices.
This is complicated. It’s not just that a single mom has an added responsibility of having a child that’s a problem. In a way I really respect and commend women who decide to keep their babies despite not having support of the father. I realize that’s no always black and white.
But the bigger question men are asking themselves is why do single mothers make such reckless and stupid decisions with irresponsible asshole men to begin with? It’s one thing if she was in a long term monogamous relationship and/or married and then something tragic happened to the father/husband. I briefly dated a single mother who was a widow and her late husband tragically died in a car accident. I’m still good friends with this woman today but it’s not possible for us to be together (she lives in a different country). But what happened to her was out of her control. She set out to be married to good devoted man and father.
But more often then not you see woman recklessly spreading it for “bad boys” and then when reality hits they suddenly want a stable “nice guy” to fall back on. How convenient.
That’s why many men have an aversion to single mothers. Because these same women would of likely ignored the good guys before they got knocked up. But now that they realize they need a good man suddenly their conveniently available.
Also I’ve seen women on dating apps who have babies or even worse are pregnant. Seriously wtf. Can’t you wait until your kid as at least 2 or older to start dating again?
Because they are looking for a Daddy for their child, as they can finally REALISE that is HARD to be a Single Mom.
I became a single mom after a 14 year relationship ended. Mid 30's with a 12 year and an 8 year old. I disregarded the thought of another relationship all together. I got close to a few guys but I always ran when they wanted to take things further.
Then out the blue I met someone who convinced me not to run, who convinced me that it is possible to date as a single mom. We got married this yr and we couldn't be happier.
My children spend 50% of the time at their dads, my husband is just their mate. And, to all they guys saying it's a lower quality man that goes for single mums, I can tell you, that's not always the case.
Probably?
Navigating the dating scene as a single mom seems like trying to solve a particularly tricky puzzle, doesn't it? But let's sprinkle a little truth dust on the subject. It's not all about the glam or the glow—single moms are masters at juggling, communication, and commitment. These qualities are magnetic, drawing people who value depth and realness in a relationship.
Now, to the choice conundrum! Honestly, attraction is subjective and multifaceted. It goes beyond just looks—it's about connection, vibe, and those little sparks that make your heart dance. Single moms marry because they find someone who sees the world in colors that resonate with them, not because they're in some beauty contest with single ladies sans kids. Let's toast to finding love in all its forms and celebrating the journey, regardless of the route taken! 🥂
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Saying they get married doesn't say anything about the quality of the guys they're getting married to (it's definitely lower).
The woman on the right is more representative of a single mom than the one on the left. But the woman on the right can lose weight and she's doesn't have the baggage of a kid, which is especially problematic if you want to have kids of your own and she doesn't have the money or the inclination to have more kids.
In this case and in general, I'm choosing the woman who isn't a single mom.
Single moms tend to have life experience coupled with a jump start on being nurturing, etc., which can be attractive to a guy.
Single moms marry to provide a stable life for them and their kids, and there are many guys who like that.
All men are different and ir depends on the reason she’s a single mom. If she’s a whore…. Or if she maybe got divorced because her husband cheated. Maybe she was raped
Because single moms’ usually work as team partner over a using partner
Think you're looking at it the wrong way. The question should be what is the quality of the men marrying these women. In the vast majority of cases the guy marrying these women isn't as high quality as she would have gotten if she didn't have kids. And life isn't all about looks. Most guys wouldn't take a woman seriously unless she has the personality he THINKS is good for a serious relationship. These guys think the woman they marry is a good catch until later on when they don't. That's how life works. They're the same kind of guys who would put their entire paycheck on buying lottery tickets. They're betting that all the other guys who told them it's a bad idea are wrong.
And yeah, there ARE some lottery winners. Some women are really great catches despite a really bad life. A diamond in the trash bin. Now 100% of women think they are diamonds even if they're not. Even the morbidly obese with 5 kids and $100k in debt think they are God's gift to man.
Also... there's a big difference between a woman who makes her life all about partying (and NOT being a good mom), keeps in contact with her baby's dad & maybe spends time alone with him to "talk" and a woman who is trying to be the perfect mom. Also a hug difference between the woman who dated random prison convicts, gang members, biker gang dudes and got passed around like a cigarette and a woman who was married to a soldier & he got killed in a war and that's what made her a single mom. And over a certain age kids is a given. At my age, any woman 45 and up without kids is sort of a red flag. And if she has adult kids nobody cares. But I'm sure you're not asking about the older ages.
And come to think of it.. I can think of couples where she was a single mom, married a guy but she keeps dressing like she is fishing for a new man. Eventually they find out she's getting her oil changed by other dude (s) and hoping to find a guy who has more money/ambition/whatever than her husband. So just because she settles doesn't mean she's satisfied. That's the problem with getting with desperate women. I tend to think guys think differently and are way less likely to jump ship once they commit. Eh.
Because "most" does not mean "all". And I don't even think it's most. Of course that depends a lot on age. A single mom at 19 is not the same as a single mom at 30-40.
Most guys in their late teens or early 20s are not going to want the responsibility of a kid. Don't say it's not their responsibility. When there is a kid in the picture, they MUST take on at least some responsibility because there is no way to take that kid out of the picture. If the relationship becomes serious, it's important that the kid likes the person mom is dating.
On top of that, a single mom at a young age can be a flag for someone who makes bad choices.
First of all, beauty is subjective. Second of all, every situation is different. I am a single father and I’m dating single mom. She is gorgeous and a great mom. If she was still in her party phase I might think differently but she is pretty grounded but still likes to have a good time and she is very family oriented and I find that incredibly attractive.
No I would say the reason is that single moms are better at attracting guys that want to marry and have a family than single girls. Guys that say they don´t want a single mom are either young and inexperienced in dating or they want to be independent in some way and they are not keen on having a family right away.
There´s also a difference of what guys do and what they say online.
Or he suspects she is still getting banged by her 2-3 baby's dads, and her life is all about partying. That's not good mom material. When I was younger, I knew some women just aren't good wife/mom material. Even tho I wasn't actively looking for a wife I knew I didn't want to be in a situation where I was stuck with a bad wife/mom. Not saying I always made the best choices but...
I'm not opposed to dating a single mom. Ultimately yeah attraction is going to play a big role initially at my age but morals, values, personality and goals are more important.
The most important goal for me in a relationship will be having children, that's obviously possible with a single mom.
However if the father is still in the picture fuck that. I am not dealing with or seeing the person who impregnated my girlfriend lol.
The question is "how many times they're marrying". In the words of Bill Engvall "here's your sign".
And I wouldn't date either of those women. They both give bad vibes. And I DON'T think the one on the left is more attractive than the one on the right.
Honestly the single mom, provided she's employed, wants to remain employed, does not have a close relationship with her kid's dad (but is cordial), and her kid likes me. Dating someone with a child can be difficult, because you come second to their child.
I don't know anything about it. Any man (who isn't also a single dad with kids) who marries a woman with kids already is making a less than optical decision. Single guys should pair up with single women and have their own families together.
Simp men out there.
I think its because being nurturing is a turn on factor for many men. Also because single moms tend to be more responsible and mature than some of these girls who complain about why guys aren't pulling out chairs for her or taking her out to luxury dinners. Single moms probably also have lower standards considering that she needs help raising the kids.
But I have to agree with you that plenty of single moms DO go onto marry or remarry.
I think a lot of single moms do find partners, but not all single moms are pretty and not all girls who don’t have kids are unattractive. And some guys really don’t want to deal with a kid and will choose a girl who doesn’t have one even if she is less attractive (which she might not be).
In my case, the appeal of a single mother lies in the fact that she's already been impregnated and given birth to her offspring, and since I'm never permitted to penetrate a woman with anything other than my tongue, this is quite convenient.
Do you have a statistic on this or? I would never date a single mom no matter how hot she would be.. just too much for me to raise someone else child, probably an idiot dude that left her also, I believe in second chances but I am not the right person for them
I got married when I was a single mother... he liked my kids, they liked him... they still like each other...
single mothers are as other women... just better organized and independent
Neither. The right for obvious reasons, and the left because I'm not at the point in my life where I'd be okay raising kids that aren't my own. I want kids of my own
I'm guessing that young, single girls are flighty and demanding, while single moms are more likely to be willing to DO ANYTHING just to have a man come pay the bills and fix the toilet.
The question is wrong. You're asking whether it would be preferable to date the ugly rake single mother on the left or the MORE attractive single girl on the right.
The answer is obvious. The one on the right. Even if SHE was the single mother.
Studies have found that single mothers are less likely to marry than childless women. In 2005, Lichter found that unwed mothers are 30% less likely to marry in a given year than childless women.
I thought you were going to say the woman on the right was the single mom. The woman on the right is clearly waaaay hotter to the point where it is not even close. Just look at how voluptuous she is.. DAMN!
Clearly, opinions differ. I selected those photos because I wanted to differences in attractiveness, to realistically represent men's choices. Therefore, not be huge difference. Regardless, I believe you understand the principle I attempted to express. That is, that based on the law of supply and demand, generally single moms cannot compete well against equally attractive single girls.
Well the question I have for you is, put yourself in my position for a moment. Let's say you're a man and you want to be your lifelong mate's absolute number one. You meet a nice girl, you get with her but she has kids. You don't really care, it's just a little extra work.. right?
But then you find out that you are not her number one and the kids will always come before you. You have been robbed of your place as your woman's number one by kids that aren't even yours. Are those kids going to hold her at night while she cries and tells all her insecurities? Are they going to touch her face in such a way to make her feel special? Are they going to sing and dance with her? Fuck no! But she still values the kids over you anyway.
Kind of seems like a raw deal, doesn't it?
You take the long-term view. Most men only thing the present when she is putting forth maximum effort to appear super nice and accommodating. They don't consider the probabilities of divorce and that women initiate approximately 70% of divorces where men lose their children, their house, a larger portion of their income in child support and alimony, or the other things you mentioned.
Considering the foregoing, the laws, the family courts, and the fact that 41% of first marriages end in divorce, marriage kind of seems like a raw deal for men. Nevertheless, most men are married.
But other than that specific complaint I mentioned I don't have a problem with single mothers. I don't feel like I got caught taking care of another kid from some other dude, I'm not there for the kid. I'm there for the woman to be my other half, to be someone who is equally as obsessed with me as I am with them for life.
Always look at character. And why she's a single mum. If he's dead or she left because he beat her, treat her right. But if it becomes apparent he was just a meal ticket, run.
I think guys that have no choice in the matter find more success with single moms as they're generally more willing to date someone closer to average or slightly below average attractiveness. Also single dads could be looking for single moms
I won't do it no matter how attractive she is physically lol.
The first broad lacks boobs, the second is a chubbette. Even were I young (and I'm not), I wouldn't have either, and most single moms look like the second chick, not the first.
If true, you were not an average man, because most average men would accept either. Most does not imply all, many single moms look like the girl on the left. For single moms that look like the girl on the right, they can marry because less attractive men choose them over even less attractive single girls. It is all relative, likely top 1% men would not accept either whither single or moms.
I actually think the woman on the right is more attractive than the other one, but then again, I love plump, fat women. Another variation of dating a single mother that I've often dreamed of is to begin the relationship shortly after she's gotten pregnant, to be able to share the entire process of gestation, birth and child rearing from start to finish, while still being restricted from ever having intercourse with her. I hope that's not too weird;)
@Billlewis yeah I'm with you on that, the woman on the right is way hotter and it's not even close.
@Juxtapose She almost looks like a young Kirstie Alley.
Roughly 4 billion males exist. It's just a numbers game. Just because most guys don't want leftovers doesn't mean others mind it. If 60% of guys don't want a single mom and 40% do for example that is still a lot of people.
I've never had an issue dating a single mom, provided the kids aren't being used as pawns by the parents.
Life isn't ideal. Most people are going to settle for relationships and marriages.
As a single dad I see nothing wrong with dating a single mom.
If forced to choose from these two without knowing anything else except what was said, the girl on the right. No baby daddy drama.
Most single moms don't marry. Statistically less single moms get married than women w/out children.
who said men dont date single mom? They are most easiest options!
obviously they're not marrying the guys who aren't dating single moms xD
Nope, I don't care how pretty she is I'm not paying for another man's crotch spawn
So what you're saying is women will become "prettier" after they've popped out a few kids with a man who is no longer in the picture.
Probably because we got the body lol
Many men have a hero complex
I'd focus on saving money instead.
Pass.
Anyone who is ready
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