How does Christianity make any sense? Hear me out?

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So you have an extremely temperamental, jealous authoritarian named Yahweh who creates humanity. This being is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, a. k. a they have all the cheat codes on and can do anything. Limitations are non-existent.

So as a being without limitations, Yahweh creates humans with the capability of disobeying him even though he is prone to getting murderously angry, terribly jealous and has an authoritarian streak like you wouldn't believe. Surprise surprise, humans eventually disobey him and then he punishes them for acting as he created.

Would you punish a robot for acting within its programming that you yourself put within it? That's stupid. No seriously, that is so fucking stupid.

And then get this.. this Yahweh fella THEN comes to Earth as his own son and conducts human sacrifice using his uh.. son/self to scapegoat the sins of humanity that he himself ALLOWED them to commit by his own design! Remember, Yahweh has all the cheat codes on, absolutely nothing it can limit him unless he wants it to.

Not only that, but he left absolutely no scientific proof of his existence whatsoever. So now people have to BLINDLY GUESS IN FAITH (WHICH IS BELIEF WITHOUT EVIDENCE) not only Christianity, but the correct variant of Christianity..

All these other religions are equal in terms of their lack of scientific evidence, so if you don't believe simply based on what your parents taught you, you have to guess. If you are wrong? You get tortured forever, as if even the worst being on Earth would deserve that kind of punishment! Nobody, absolutely nobody deserves to be tortured forever. I don't care if you're Hitler times a million!

So you guys, without any evidence whatsoever.. worship a murderous, insanely jealous authoritarian who wants you to play petty guessing games to determine your eternal fate?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

How does Christianity make any sense? Hear me out?

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As expected, a lot of people are having severe difficulties and elevate blind belief above evidence.

Faith is belief without evidence and what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I'm not the one that has to prove anything here 😂

Telekinetic-Potato · Accepted Answer

Someone could write a long book about this but you phrased the question so perfectly, you have no idea. Realistically there are steps to fully understanding this but I'll try to gloss over all of them.

First of all, how do you think the bible was meant to be interpreted and during a time where it likely felt like everyone was claiming to be prophets for one religion or another, why would someone want to read the Christian bible or the Jewish Torah?

The story of Jesus is best described as a story about what happens when anything a man says comes true. That was Jesus' dilemma even through growing up. As a child, before becoming the man we think of when we talk about Jesus, he was actually kind of a dick.

As a young child he was kinda just telling people to drop dead and because everything he says comes true, they would. Jesus had the ability to create life from clay and when a priests son tried to destroy his clay creation he basically cursed him and he died. in fact, he kept doing it until his father Joseph was told he needs to leave town because this kid is crazy. After having a good father son talk which was very awkward for him, Jesus revived everyone and made them healthy. Which was part of the beginning of the ideology he began to teach.

This story was taken out of the bible by the church and raises a lot of questions. like for example, if God knows everything and Jesus is the son of God or at least was a prophet, why was he so seemingly wicked as a child. ( which if you ask me, seems like pretty normal growing pains for a kid born with the ability to speak reality into existence.) What does this tell us about the overall message of Christianity?

Well for one thing, its an example of what is meant by God's power being absolute and an insight into what being human actually means. It also could be interpreted as a clue pertaining to why we are all here in the first place. I'll give you another hint, many Jews who study the texts believe in reincarnation.

Jesus essentially felt guilt for his past transgressions and became the opposite of who he was as a kid in many ways. (Another hint about duality, spectrums, think ying and yang) Showing that even God goes through changes. Yes, he's everywhere and he's everything but have you ever thought about what that really means?

Lets talk for a minute about God being limitless. This is where things start to get a little crazy even though I'm going to have to gloss over a lot of details, Just stay with me. The bible tells us that God is everywhere and everything, he is formless and limitless. We were created in his image, and even through we refer to God as a man, the bible does make some call outs to the idea of masculine and feminine energy. In fact it kind of tells us that God IS energy.

And if we look at advances in science today, it makes a lot of sense right? What is the only thing we understand today to be arguably formless and limitless into he same confusing way as God? The fabric of time space itself: Our reality. Scientifically speaking, the only thing that differentiates the you from the screen you're reading this on or the thoughts in your head is that the area in space time these things occupy are vibrating at a different rate. That's not religion, that's quantum physics. You know, the stuff that's making the new supercomputers and allowing us to build computer chips and atom bombs.

The Catholic church wants you to think of God as a person, The Torah, Bible and Quran want you to think of God as existence itself. God is everywhere and everything, the thoughts you have are God, the animals around us are God, when you go to the beach, each individual grain of sand is existing in a superposition of being God fully and completely as it's own thing and also only being a part of God as part of a larger thing. (it's part of the beach, it's part of earth, it's part of our solar system and so on)

This is going to be a mind bender especially for anyone raised traditionally Catholic and I'm assuming traditionally in other religions as well. But it is the basic idea most of them are trying to build up to including Hinduism.

None of these religions so far as I know explicitly describe hell except maybe the description of the rapture in the bible which is a whole other topic.

So I would say these religions are more of a collection of little white lies which are meant to encourage you to learn and understand more of what theyre trying to teach us about life. The truth reveals itself to you as you study it more.

Imagine two thousand years ago trying to go up to someone and explain that everything in the world is made of the same stuff and we're all energy and our actions and thoughts affect other people effectively just cuz and that reality is always in one way or another just trying to find balance. It sounds crazy (and scientifically verifiable)

The most interesting part about all this is how much room there really is in science for God to exist like this based on what we know and don't know. I would say there are more than enough aspects (quarks, charms fields etc.) which make up subatomic particles (protons, neutrons, electrons) and don't seem to change their properties in a distinguishable way (as of yet) For a God as described in this way to exist.

But what are the implications of a world that works like this?

Well the next time you think to yourself "Why would God allow so much suffering in the world, he must be a real asshole" Take a look at your shoes and ask yourself in what way is what you're blaming God for not exactly what you're doing when you buy a pair of Nike's.

The next time you hear someone say "Well, if he created us why can we disobey?" It's because God created us in much the same fashion we created him. There's that Ying/Yang, positive and negative charge idea again.

It's hard to think about these things because it doesn't come naturally to most people to think in abstracts. God created us in a similar way to how we created God. (Which still isn't totally accurate to say) We exist as a consequence of one another (only slightly more accurate) I'm not saying there aren't more questions left, but I am saying that to hate God is to hate yourself.

God is kinda like a big mirror for humanity. Everything he does is a reaction to humanity (and depending on your interpretation, other stuff too) as a collective. Despite having free will, energy is reality and it can be transferred and affect anything, anywhere. A concept demonstrated in quantum mechanics, entanglement being one of the classic examples.

So yea, everything people think about God is almost completely wrong or better yet is like a preschool level of understanding of something you're supposed to spend many decades studying intensely. Only nw we have the internet and therefore so much more perspective with which to understand. It's fascinating to me how the Jews believed that humanity would be one day ready to have free access to the Kabbalah (if you don't know what that is, you can temporarily replace this word with enlightenment or the knowledge of everything I've written here and more). I think they were right.

There is of course WAY more to it, so I'll try my best to answer any other questions or learn from other people. I'm a little curious what Muslims think of this.

Lliam · Accepted Answer

You made good points with clever analogies, Juxtapose. I agree with you.

What's interesting is the fact that people always believed in gods and supernatural powers in the first place. That's why it was so easy for people in the West to accept the new Christian god.

What is totally fucked up is, the early fathers of Christianity (Roman aristocrats) in the 3rd century of the modern era decided to make their Christ contingent on the Hebrew creation story and the Satanic Talmudic messages inserted into the Torah. That's why most Christians place more importance on the Torah (Old Testament) than on Jesus.

And the unsophisticated, nomadic Hebrews got all the ideas for their creation myth from the Assyrians and Babylonians who practiced child sacrifice to appease their gods.

There are so many parallels between Christianity and those ancient Mesopotamian religions.

The regular people who wound up being converted to the ideas of Christianity were illiterate and ignorant of the world beyond their villages. They had no idea that other cultures and religions existed around the world. They didn't even know that there was a big, wide world. So it was easy for them to be manipulated into believing in "the one true God", or three Gods in one, or Santa Clause, or Jesus, or whatever. It's not like a child thinks deeply or logically about what their parents teach them. To top if off, if something doesn't make any sense, the people are told to accept it on faith. "You can't understand the mind of God."

What I think is funny is how so many people base their arguments about the existence of God on the premise that there is a God in the first place. They start out with a built-in bias.

Science certainly doesn't have everything figured out. It's an ongoing process, and some of it is bullshit. But to use the Bible as an explanation for creation or for things that happen is an exercise in trying to make fairy tales fit reality. And that's true of all religions. It gives people hope and comfort.

Morgan234 · Accepted Answer

I see your point of view. Let me share with you mine.

1. God begins by creating everything. He creates everything perfectly, with no evil, sickness, death, or sin.

2. God created man, Adam and later Eve. God created man to praise him, but God chose not to create a bunch of robots. He could have made it to where we had no choice to follow him, praise him. But he didn't. We have the free will to choose if we want to worship God or not.

3. Adam and Eve choose to sin and disobey God. By one man, Adam, sin entered the world. Death, sin, and suffering become apart of the world. God is perfect, holy, and sinless. Therefore man is separated from God. God literally cannot come into man's presence because of sin. Sin is what separated God and man.

4. God must now save us from our sin, because he doesn't want us going to hell. Hell was not made for humans to be sent to. Hell was made to hold Satan and evil.

5. God sets apart a people, the Israelites, to be the bloodline of which his plan to redeem us comes. These people were to be set apart, because of this reason. God is tells them that is they praise him, he will give what they need and will protect and take care of them. But the Israelites wanted to be like everyone else around them, one of the big things at the time was worshipping the gods of the sun, moon, stars, etc. God says he is a jealous God, meaning he doesn't want fake things taking credit for everything he did. Just like when you work hard at something, you don't want someone else to take the credit for it. So God shows himself to the people in many ways, hopeing then they will he is the one true God. When the Israelites refuse to believe this God punishes them for the same reason a father punishes their child. In hopes the child will learn from it.

6. Later, many events later, God plans to send the physical, human version of himself to earth. You question why he did so. Why didn't God just send his son down to earth as a mighty king a conquerer, some one who "meant something in the world". God sent Jesus to earth as a lowly baby. What better way to get people to believe in him than to become one of them himself.

7. Jesus grows up, leads a ministry, does miracles, and his walk on earth comes to a end. Jesus is sinless, making him the only one who could make a way for us to go to heaven. Jesus dies on the cross, goes to hell, for you, but rises from the dead 3 days later, completing his mission.

8. God is a God of justice, truth, and wisdom. Throughout history, all he has ever done is to save people from going to a place of constant death and torture. Imagine the worst pain you have ever felt physically and emotionally. Hell is a place where if you are not saved, you will suffer that pain billions of times over and over again for eternity. It is sometimes to be afraid of. Hell is not a happy or okay place to be.

9. So if anyone really read this whole message, I am not trying to push by beliefs on you as people mat say. You chose to read this. I get it is hard to understand how a God could allow some things to happen in this world, but God created your life, so he sure knows what he is doing in it, if you just let him.

I hope this helps❤️

Siri137 · Accepted Answer

I'm not a Christian, so I wasn't "offended" by this, but God Almighty is this a load of ignorant, misinformed rubbish!

Where do I even begin? I'll begin by asking you to actually read the Bible itself, and not rely solely upon the mad ravings of YouTube atheists for your sources of information. That would help a lot.

Did you know there are people who still believe that the fruit in the Garden of Eden that grew upon the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was the apple? Apples aren't mentioned within that story, the tree itself is unknown, we don't know what it was, but some scholars have said it was likely a fig tree (I don't know why they would say that either, but there you go). Did you also know that the Bible doesn't give the age of the earth as being 6,000 years, or 4,000 years, or any other figure, and yet ignorant people still use this "fact" as some kind of 'gotcha' trap against Christians, especially creationists. All they're doing is exposing their appalling ignorance for all to see when they do this, and this is exactly what you've done here.

Christianity makes a great deal of sense to those who actually understand it. It doesn't make sense to dishonest and ignorant atheists who constantly use straw-man arguments, because they're not even interested in trying to understand it, preferring instead to just get up on their soap-boxes and rant about how much they hate the God they apparently don't even believe in.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Simple: you've got the wrong idea. Several of them, actually. Let's go point by point:

Starting in Eden, you have humans, created with free will, and thus the ability to disobey. They've given only one rule they're not allowed to break- to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge. They naturally ask why, and are told "the day you eat it, you'll die". Fair enough. Then along comes a helpful snake, who points out that no, you won't die, you'll become like God, knowing good and evil. I'm not sure how he knew, being a snake- and thus carnivorous- but he was right; they ate the fruit and gained knowledge (maybe calling it "the tree of death" would've been better, Yahweh). Since they didn't have much by way of morality in their actions, they did something about the nudity they'd also gained knowledge of.

Yahweh finds out and is furious, throwing them out- but why? He didn't create them to disobey, He simply gave them the ability to- and it backfired, because the snake pointed out His dishonesty. The experiment failed; that doesn't mean that it didn't make sense. You can't know the validity of a person's reactions until you understand their motivations, which Yahweh has (rather unhelpfully) not explained.

Then you have Jesus. As you note, there's no functional need for the sacrifice of His weekend (it doesn't count as "life" if You know You're going to be brought back from the dead)- but remember the purpose of Jesus's coming- to bring a message to humanity. The suffering was for OUR sake, not for God's; this was a direct and open attempt to finally demonstrate that Yahweh had moved past the "perpetually pissed-off monster" stage of divinity, and was finally ready to deal with His creation honestly, and demonstrated that by finally putting some skin in the game, incarnating and going through all the nonsense we do.

As to evidence- well, insofar as both you and I exist, there is evidence. Occam's razor, man; it's a FAR simpler idea that matter, energy, and space itself were created by deliberate action than that an enclosed system with an ever-decreasing amount of energy would not only create life, but create life that mutated to become more and more complex over time. There IS evidence, just not proof. Nor, in light of what Jesus said, is faith blind- "No one comes to the Father [i. e., gets into Heaven] but through me.". ME. Not doctrine, not sect membership, not proper performance of rituals or flawless recitation of prayers. The entire POINT of Jesus's venture down here was to demonstrate that God isn't a rigid unthinking set of rules and regulations, but a reasoning being, capable of seeing and reasoning what you do and why. That was the core flaw of Judaism that needed correcting. I will be the first to admit that various churches have completely missed that point over the centuries; stick in with predestination and original sin in the closet of human idiocies.

And that brings us to Hell. As the Bible makes surprisingly clear (to those who haven't actually read it), the punishment for wickedness is death. That is, without an afterlife. Such punishment as DOES exist in the afterlife is a matter of purification- purgatory, essentially. And remember, it's not about "guessing", it's about appealing to a figure who not only sees what you did, but understands why, and even what you were trying to do when you screwed up.

So yes, what you describe WOULD be awful- but that's not what Christianity IS. The point of religious sect membership is about improving your life before you die, not after.

lightbulb27 · Answer

haha, that was quite a read. Yes, there are some real challenges in thinking through this world view.

What is a loving God to do when people are so screwed up?

This is not going to be easy to explain.

Christianity makes sense, but from what you said... the Bible in totality doesn't.

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What if... God... is energy, that energy being "love" in how we relate to it? You've experienced love right... it's an emotion, has a vibration quality and energy. When you are in tune with it, you feel good... right? Have you experienced this?

Then God, which is everywhere... has these other vibrations going on... bad ones. You could even say..."evil" ones... or adversarial ones... aka the devil. Those ones corrupt so easily. Humans relate to these vibrations emotionally by way of shame, fear, anger, hatred, jelousy, malice, envy, spite, pride... you know all that.

There's a book full of all the awfulness resulting from these bad vibrations and in essence... separation from God (love) and in essence, selfishness. A lot of it is about protection of this special group of people which brings about the seed messenger to save humanity. The only way out of this mess, saving the weak and lost, is Jesus, which in human form is inspired to life and represents God, is God in the flesh, and is then witnessed in spiritual form as light.

The goal of this is to free a person from the negative energies/trauma that impose their will upon the person growing in this world, so they can live to their true Godly self, serving God in this... fallen world. Such people, often do and make a big difference. Sometimes they fail, humans fail a lot.

Yes, it's not easy to understand and each brain interprets differently, each has their gifts. Ya think it could be more clear.

Apologetics gets into all this stuff, I didn't enjoy that, some people do. Sometimes the dummer you are the easier it is to walk in "faith". Maybe this is a problem of big craniums. The issue here isn't your logic, it's your heart. God doesn't give a crap about your logic. Re-read what Jesus said... writing it on your heart. All the commandments are put there to contain the human animal to better standards. It's well intended... it didn't work.

What's this "no evidence". That's the idea of the Bible is these people experienced and wrote down all this stuff, copied and passed it on.

You reflect on your own questions. I ran into issues I couldn't answer, it's a tough battle of your own will. I wish I was more faithful to Christ, I fail all the time. You want easy, don't be a Christian, but I think true and better life is in that... meaningful life.

I'm not so sure Christianity is about "sense" anyways. It's about saving the lost, the hopeless. If you don't see lost and hopeless being churned out of our social science organizations, I'm not sure you can really see straight...

Exterminatore · Answer

Quite a few things to address here. I’m happy by the way to discuss anything here, but it must be kept a friendly debate or discussion. In all my points I’ll try to be fairly brief and am happy to go into further detail. If asked or challenged.

I’ll start with the scientific evidence. No only is there enormous amounts of scientific evidence demonstrating various things in the Bible there is scientific evidence or lack there of proving God’s existence. Most people believe the Big Bang was how the universe was created. Where did the atom come from that was so densely packed it exploded into all the cosmos and planets? It violates the law of physics to have something from nothing. According to the laws of thermodynamics, matter is neither created nor destroyed. That’s a probable law. Since it violates scientific law to have something from nothing and to have new matter created, the only possible explanation for the source of all that exists is something outside our space/time domain. A supernatural creation by a supernatural God who is above all scientific laws. As for Darwinian evolution, it violates the scientific method because first of all it can’t be repeated. They can’t find one missing link let alone several. Also no change of kind can be observed in nature or the fossil record. Kind as in Kingdom, Phylum, Species etc etc. I do believe in some evolution as all dogs for example have 1 parent ancestors. Yet we have many breeds. That however is not a change in kind. It’s a dog becoming another type of dog. Nowhere does a bird become a dog. There is a multitude of other evidences for God’s existence and tuns to historically verify what the Bible says. Ask me some and I’ll show you.

Yes, God did create mankind with the ability to disobey, however he doesn’t force anyone to disobey. Man choses that on their own and each person is responsible for their own actions, no one else, and not God. Your children have the option to be obedient or disobedient and they choose the option for themselves, they can’t blame the parent for bad behavior. So blame shifting doesn’t lay an indictment at God’s feet.

Man was not programmed to sin to use your robot example. Adam, Eve, Satan and the rebel angles all had a choice. Once Adam did sin, it brought sin into the world. This caused every human to be born spiritually dead by default. It also brought physical death into the world as man was not originally created to physically die. So after that all were born spiritually dead with a proclivity to sin. Sin is a disease. A disease of the soul, and one that also affects the physical body. Not to worry though, God also created the antidote. Jesus. Through who all my be healed, made spiritually alive, and have any and all sins forgiven.

By your example - God makes man sin? I’ll play devils advocate. Let’s say your right. He also came to earth and allowed himself to be killed to fix the problem. So if God made man sin, he also made the solution. However it’s more like man chose to sin, not was created to, then God sacrificed himself to erase the judgment of sin man chose.

There are no guessing games regarding salvation. God has made the path clear in the Bible.

PraviteliNahuiValite · Answer

Then you see that secret societies which control every other institution gave the bible to us. You see esoteric symbolism in it that proves it isn't meant to be interpreted literally. The literal bible commands his chosen folks to murder, rape and shit in the old testament. To physically and emotionally abuse children, which is the whole reason believers exist, I don't think anyone in the world believes in the eternal damnation, but as a punishment and reward upbringing, people are traumatized to the point of dissociation in which to a person being religious is more comfortable than being their true self.

And it still takes a lot of mind fucking to interpret the bible in this traditional way. For example there god says multiple times that he creates both good and all evil. We don't need more examples of him doing evil, especially in the old testament. But what does the devil do? The worst thing the devil ever does is tempt jesus to be more selfish, turn rocks into bread or be the ruler of the land. Suggesting that the devil, the beast, is just our own egoic animalistic side (which has it's own appropriate place in our lives.) It says that in order to enter the coomdom of heaven one must become like a child. Idiots interpret it as "become as gullible as a child so that you believe whatever you're told." Well... if that was the case then religious homes wouldn't be the worst in domestic violence as they are. It's more like children are the most unreligious that one can be. They are not judgmental and are in touch with their needs and desires, unlike traumatized ultra religious people.

So are there other religions, even yogis and some Buddhists who are all about disassociating and escaping reality. But others know that enlightenment is not an attainment, but realization. Even in the bible: "The coomdom of heaven is within you."

Leapfrog00 · Answer

As a writer, I often come across information that forces me to question my beliefs. The bible is full of contradictions. That shall not covet my neighbor's wife, but yet, GOD impregnated Mary, who was married to joseph. (Yeah, I'm a deep thinker).

In the beginning when there was war over God Vs Gods, it kind of makes you question if we would have ended up with Gods, would the story of the immaculate conception even exist. And when you ask someone, they say, "God has been here since the beginning. He's our only God."

I usually keep my mouth shut, but sometimes I feel like saying, "How do you know?" I read an article once that said that 60% of scientists believe in God. A person closer to religion might say that's more than fifty percent, so that's good enough. Proof is everything in the science world.

The one question I could never figure out the answer to, if Jesus was nailed to a cross, why didn't God stop it? If I had unlimited power and could do anything I wanted, I would think it as a moral obligation to save my son.

Heavily religious people don't like me, lol. I ask too many questions and get on their nerves in the process. Like I always say, "Don't preach to me or lecture me on something if you don't expect follow-up questions."

I honestly believe trying to understand religion is a lost cause.

hahahmm · Answer

1. You -- possibly due to a shallow knowledge of the scripture -- ignore all the instances where God forgave/showed mercy even when treated very badly by humans. In fact I would say he shows a lot more mercy than humans usually show each other. You ascribing only negative emotions to him is your problem and unsupported by the actual Christian faith or Judaism. Imagine if someone wanted to judge the sport of basketball but they insisted on only using their mistaken imagination about what the rules of the game are instead of the actual rulebook. It'd be ridiculous.

2. "Not only that, but he left absolutely no scientific proof of his existence whatsoever" - That's false. More like there's political reasons why people don't want to teach evidence. In the 1950s it was discovered that the complexity of molecular engines within bacteria cannot be explained by the Theory of Evolution but instead of admitting that the theory failed.. Look into the bacterial flagellar motor. It's as complicated as human designed engines and has all the familiar parts of rotary engines. Many small parts that have to all be assembled together for it to be useful to do anything. All parts that would have to have been randomly put together and yet they actually don't work unless assembled in the correct order. Just like you can't make a car engine by taking a barrel full of random car parts and stirring the contents.

I can also think of passages that describe quantum physics eons before humans discovered it BUT I won't waste time trying to describe it here because if you actually cared to learn you would be reading scripture more.

VikingWarLord · Answer

Christianity doesn't even make sense to Christians.

There are thousands of denominations.

And back during the first 300 years of Christianity they had even more sects and denominations. They didn't even have an English Bible until the 15th Century AD.

1. St. Latin Vulgate has 76 Books
2. Catholic Bible has 73 Books
3. Protestant Bible has 66 Books

This "god" of theirs can't even arbitrate which books are meant for the adherents to read from. Even more embarrassing is that back in the Greco-Roman world only around 10% of people were Literate (could read and write). What "god" would have books written about him for a population where 9 out of 10 people couldn't read or write (illiterate)?

Rosexøxø · Answer

Read the first paragraph and couldn’t read further. People and humanity is still so underdeveloped that they cannot even accurately identify a figure in literature because they “took that personal.” They turned on their passions and strong emotions, and turned off the logic.

The Bible is pretty thorough and well-written. You have to truly understand the contexts and know the characters within, to see that it’s all just purely good and intended for good, and according to its so called prophecies- will bring about some form of goodness for eternity.

Is it all false for one major reason? Yes

No higher deity exists. His presence and evidence of power is non existent from us today. Stop playing with this stuff and tbh, respect it as a story is all I ask because I did grow up learning about it. It was a highly cherished thing. I don’t take that lightly. It does have its weight.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

1. A being cannot be without limitations.

2. Belief is always an assumption, its a synonym for faith.

You give the religious too much credit in your argument.

Can god create something so heavy that god cannot lift it?
If yes, god has strength limits, if no, god has creation limits.
It has to be a yes or a no, so things like omnipotence are impossible.
That alone is scientific proof that a god CAN'T exist, even hypothetically speaking, at least not an omnipotent one, and in my opinion, if you aren't all powerful, you're not a god, nor would you be able to make an infinite universe, both because of not being all powerful, and because the universe always existed.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Here is the key: God has feelings. That is the secret to the whole mystery that you are trying to understand. So he wants people to WILLINGLY want to serve and worship and obey him. Because it makes him feel happy. It delights him. THAT is why we have a choice. (But obviously if you piss him off and make the wrong choice then you WILL face the consequences.)

LiamJHayden · Answer

A Creator could want the created beings to not be automata. That would of necessity allow for disobedience, aka sin.

As for a sacrifice, we see that in our own lives. Sin can be seen as a debt to God, a damaging of his property, Creation. A debt is always paid in some way. Either the debtor pays it, the one to whom it is owed absorbs the loss, or someone else pays it. In Christianity, Jesus came to give his life for the purpose of paying the debts of all who would believe.

So logically it does make sense. That, of course, does not mean it is true.

jshm2 · Answer

You should call yourself "airport" as you're all over the place, wasting oxygen and causing unnecessary pollution.

What you've done is further infantilize your ignorance of the Christian faith. Making yourself look like a bigger dimwit than you are.

Science is not a yardstick for faith, nor is faith a laboratory for science. That you are too insular to understand such basics is why your parents don't care about you.

Wade12345 · Answer

Christianity is a false religion.

Numbers 23;19 says God is not a man.

proverbs says God wants everyone to repent and be saved.

problem is ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS FLAT OUT HATE GOD BECAUSE GOD IS THE SUPREME MORAL AUTHORITY, NOT THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION OR FOUNDING FATHERS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YET? THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE CAN DO WHATEVER THE FFUCK HE WANTS TO, INCLUDING SENDING ALL OF YOU TO HELL.

ImHere22 · Answer

Are you asking all the high-level religious authorities who are frequent users of this site? Because hey wow, they’re not here dude.

Read the Bible. Doesn’t agree with you? That’s cool; there’s plenty of other religions (or none at all) to choose from!

Thatpearl26 · Answer

This is exactly what I’ve been thinking the past few years. Religions are just blindly believing in whatever the priest or bible tells you to. Who even wrote the bible? How do we even know that book wasn’t meant to be a fictional book but instead humanity made it a religion. Although, I understand other peoples point of view since everyone has different beliefs. However there’s physically no evidence that Jesus ever existed and died on the cross.

RealMarek · Answer

Set aside how you’re describing Christianity is not exactly accurate outside of some specific denominations or traditions in the Western world and even then requires a hyper-literalistic approach to interpretation, it is important to consider that nothing makes sense. For example, how did matter come into being in the first place? Or existence? On their own? Because that’s a miracle no matter how one cuts it.

NYCQuestions1976 · Answer

I was raised Roman Catholic. Now like most Catholics, I'm non-practicing. My personal opinion on this overall topic is this:

Being spiritual in some way? 👍

Having some sort of faith? 👍

Why? As hard as we try, we don't have all the answers to the universe. Science is the cake. Wonder, in the form of faith and spirituality, is the icing. However:

Organized religion? Not so much. I'll pass.

Anonymous · Answer

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Why would I when you ascribe physical limitations and human motivations to a deity that transcends matter, space, and time?

You ask for evidence. I see evidence everywhere. Let me guess. The Universe was all created by the Big Bang—and it was all totally spontaneous and random, and it’s cause is scientific and can be measured, observed, calculated, and thus predicted...

... but we just haven’t figured it out yet. 🙄

BlissfullyCurSed · Answer

You know what is more hilarious? The fact that you spend so much time to write a long a$$ essay to prove that Christianity is not real. Dude, why do you waste your precious time on some rubbish. You don't think it makes sense anyway.

HippieVeganJewslim · Answer

What You wrote as YaH WeH ain’t G-d’s name; it’s just the assumption of the romanisation of G-d forbidden name. We know not what the vowels of YHWH, but other names of G-d are mentioned in the Bible. Xtianity makes little sense to me, as I believe that G-d and Yeshua are two different beings and that the latter never was crucified or died.

How does Christianity make any sense? Hear me out?

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