The Red Pill Is Not Evil

[Anonymous]

I am not hateful or mysogynistic. Believe it or not I have never had trouble getting a girlfriend. I have no reason to be bitter and my views on women honestly are not bad. I'm a relatively attractive guy, I've never had trouble attracting women, despite the stereotype saying otherwise. And I felt exactly the same after becoming red pill aware as I did before. I still love women, kinks and all. I actually found the red pill doing research for a gender studies project.

The red pill was designed for men struggling with the raw hand they've been dealt. I had no need for the knowledge there, but I saw the truth. The things I learned opened my eyes about a lot of things and made me have a deeper understanding of our society. I would be lying if I say I didn't feel resentful at how my fellow man was being treated at first, but that was only momentarily. I am not angry or bitter. I am a caring, loving person. The red pill did not create a women hating rapist out of me, but it did make me aware of the base pyschology that affects inter sexual interaction. There are thousands like me. I would be lying if I said there weren't bitter, mysogynistic men on there, but the knowledge itself is meant in good will, to help people. I am red pill aware. Being red pill aware has made me more succesful in life and with women. I don't hate anyone and neither do the thousands like me.

[MaskedSanity]

It would be good to hear YOUR actual opinion instead of just the fact that you affiliate yourself with the red pill crowd, because the impression is exactly the same as if a girl said she's a feminist, but didn't hate men.

Prepare to be bashed and told you're a misogynist.

Truth is, a really large portion of red pillers actually do genuinely hate women, rather than want to establish fair treatment between the sexes. You will often find well thought out articles about the unfairness that is present in our society, but scroll down to the comment section and all the supporters are rioting for "putting dat hoe back in the kitchen".

I have made comments on certain aspects and have been both told I'm a hateful feminazi as well as being told I'm only defending a men's issue, because I'm trying to win brownie points with guys.

I find it's best not to associate yourself with movements like this, because you'll only be met with misunderstanding and anger as well as baseless accusations.

[Watermelonoma]

yeah, this is why my philosophy in life is to listen to all but follow none

[Xonen]

@watermelonoma, if you've decided that you're stuck in your ways and will follow none, then I think it's more efficient to skip the "listen to all" part.

[Watermelonoma]

@Xonen

you don't really get it. You may, as you age

[Xonen]

@watermelonoma perhaps, but I didn't intend to imply that I'm the sort of person who tunes out others' beliefs. My personal "philosophy" is constantly amended as a result of my interactions with others. I borrow from others' beliefs as I see fit.

[Watermelonoma]

@Xonen

The philosophy i follow is not about following no one and being stuck in my ways. Actually, it means the exact opposite. It means that instead of following no one, you follow everyone, the best parts of everyone that is. You listen to all, and gather what good that each person/group provides, and use your own brain to amalgamate all the floating ideas out there to formulate your own opinion on a particular matter. Essentially, you're creating an opinion which has its roots from a handful, or dozens of other peoples opinions. It's not about following no one at all

[Xonen]

@watermelonoma ah okay, I didn't interpret it as you'd intended. I am guided by the same code :-)

[MaskedSanity]

@Xonen

Heh, I was a bit surprised that you opposed @watermelonoma 's philosophy while simultaneously describing exactly what he does, lol.

Ah, misunderstandings... ;p

[Watermelonoma]

lol... shit happens ^_^

[djmzes]

Fix it and not fix it...
Whose hand it is?

[Dandeus]

"I am not hateful or mysogynistic."

Perhaps not yet.

Beware which rabbit holes you choose to go down.

[Watermelonoma]

well you were smart enough to place yourself in as high a light with women as possible in the beginning of this to immediately dispel any sort of critique of your reasoning for going the red pill route + you're anonymous... so people are now forced to sorta kinda take your word for it that you aren't bitter. But literally half your take was about how non bitter you are personally, and not about why the red pill isn't actually evil -_-

In any event, I don't have a problem with red pillers, as i believe everyone should have that choice. Personally, im also skeptical about the benefits of marriage for men, as divorce laws rarely end up in men's favour. No, i wouldn't go into a marriage planning for divorce, (which is a typical response from women to what i just stated), but you would be a fool to at least not think about it. However, there is a great deal of value in women. A good woman will act as a mirror to you, and show you things about yourself that you never thought possible. So this is why today, i remain on the great white fence when it comes to getting married.

I do question the motivations of a lot of guys going full red pill though. For a lot of them, i think its a club they join which allows them to not face their approach anxiety and communication issues they have with women. Instead of dealing with it, they congregate with like minded people who also have issues with women, and they all come to the conclusion together that, "Well.. women aren't worth it anyways, so why bother changing anything about myself." It's the natural tendency of people today to believe that the problem is more likely to be with everyone else, versus themselves... being the only actual common denominator in all their interactions with women. Then again, there are also men who do this because they are just afraid of the consequences of getting that attached to a woman by law, and would rather not get entangled in all that, despite not having issues with getting women.

So is the red pill evil? No, its not inherently evil. But its used all too often as a crutch by some men who lack enough introspective intelligence to question themselves on the real reason as to why they have chosen to sworn off women for good.

[MaskedSanity]

*standing ovation*
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[Aud_Queen]

You should have written this take. I never knew what a red pill was until now. You leaen something new everyday 😊

[myTake Owner]

Well when ever your discussing the red pill/feminism anything opposed to thier ideas is usually dismissed as being bitter or mysogynistic without looking at the facts.

[Nobodycares]

I don't think society gives men much of a chance for introspection.

[notcreativethough]

Judging from: "Well.. women aren't worth it anyways, so why bother changing anything about myself." You don't seem to know much about the red pill. One of the biggest things red pillers advocate is working out to improve health and attractiveness. Also: "i think its a club they join which allows them to not face their approach anxiety and communication issues they have with women" Another thing red pillers strongly advocate are cold approaches.

I think you're only thinking of MGTOW, not the red pill as a whole.

[naturallywonderful]

Wait so let me get this straight. We live in a culture where even women even bring the issue of sexism up, they get called out on it and get called "ugly crazy feminists" yet you suddenly expect for everyone to listen to this sob story you've come up with? Get over yourself.

[naturallywonderful]

*if women

[Riggers]

I dont think I've ever heard anyone ever say ''Ugly crazy feminists''.

Feminism is cool and all, Im all for Equal rights, But, Nowa days, Feminazi's are giving a bad Rep to Feminism (Look at the Group 'Femen'), People like that want MORE rights for girls then guys, Which is fucked up.

And, Its hardly a Sob story is it really?

[naturallywonderful]

It's a sob story because it's absolutely pathetic. "The raw reality of being a man". Tell me that while there are women in other countries who continue to be targeted for rape, murder, and genocide. It's a sob story because he feels sorry for himself for having been born a male. Feeling sorry for yourself for having been born either gender is absolutely pathetic unless you were born in an area where that gender is constantly targeted for attack. This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous

[myTake Owner]

The difference is it is completely social acceptable to be a feminist. Feminism gets massive support from the media. We do not. Any mention of ideas that disagree with feminism are labeled as mysoginistic.

[naturallywonderful]

"It is completely socially acceptable to be a feminist". Are you sure? Because when you google feminism the first two things you see are "feminism is bullshit" and "feminism is bad". If you so much as mention that you're a feminist on this website, people will repeatedly attack you. All across the Internet, even when people are blatantly sexist, people will often comment, "Oh here come the crazy feminists". Feminism isn't socially acceptable. Because it isn't, this "Red Pill" bullshit has absolutely no place being socially acceptable either. Go take your idiotic opinion elsewhere

[myTake Owner]

People are starting to realize modern feminism is about equality. Feminism stills gets tremendous support from the media but people are starting to notice the discrepancies.

[myTake Owner]

Isn't*

[OrdinaryGentleman]

I don't see a sob story:/ ?

[Bysshe]

@Riggers "People like that want MORE rights for girls then guys, Which is fucked up."

Femen is hardly a good example for that (I'm not sure one exists though...), in the countries where it's prominent women's rights are lagging behind what we've reached in Western countries. You may not agree with their tactics, but they're certainly getting noticed.

[djmzes]

And shy guys are called loser!!!

[Figleaf]

Jesus Christ... do you kids fear women so much you have to create fucking flow charts? There are 3 billion of them on the planet. If you said , "fuck off bitch" to ten of them a day, it would take you a thousand years to cover them all, and you 'd end up banging three a day by end of business. Get busy, please.

[Nobodycares]

One of em would snap and kill you at some point. Some women are crazy.

[Figleaf]

Some people are crazy. Do you stay home all the time?

[Yellowbone]

LOL.

[Joshua2332]

If you follow the red pill you're an idiot. Guys who have a harsh view on women just because they get rejected are dumb too. Guys who believe the red pill works only get whores and then wonder why the nice girls don't like them. You asking them for sex within 2 minutes of meeting doesn't help anything. Keep believing this BS, I find it amusing.

[myTake Owner]

I've never had problems with rejection and I have no need for "whores". I follow the red pill because it is truthful.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Hmm I think you are thinking of misogynist. Two different things.

[DarkHumorRUs]

"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."
~Morpheus

[jacquesvol]

Beware https://oi59.tinypic.com/1e2t4z.jpg

[DarkHumorRUs]

You're a wanker.

[Minxxie]

I don't thing classifying men as "beta" and "alpha" is right. Everyone is a mix of lots of traits and it is not that easy to put people into a neat little labelled box. I think this way of thinking is oversimplifying people who are all very complex and unique and is not only hateful to women but men as well. Your problem is that you view other people as "types" and not as the complex beings that they are. When you oversimplify you will never understand anyone else no matter what gender they are.

[myTake Owner]

Alpha is a relative term. I agree no one is completely one or the other.

[Minxxie]

It's still very flawed and an oversimplified way of viewing other people, it's only going to lead you astray.

[notcreativethough]

It's only flawed if you don't fully understand it. Alpha/beta isn't a dichotomy, it's more like a spectrum with various traits that have various levels of 'alphaness' and 'betaness'. If a red piller calls a guy a beta or an alpha, it's because he leans on one side more than the other, not necessarily that he carries a rigid template of behaviors that are 100% alpha or beta as that's quite rare.

What the classifications measure is essentially masculinity and femininity.

[Minxxie]

in my opinion this little cult is not going to help you in relating to real people at all it's just going to hurt your social skills in the long run.

[myTake Owner]

It is definitely my a cult, more a body of thought

[myTake Owner]

My=not

[Minxxie]

you are way too invested in it to call it a philosophy, it's more like a religion

[notcreativethough]

Again you misunderstand, calling the red pill a cult only serves to highlight your ignorance. Myself and many others have experienced the opposite of your opinion. Tell me, what do you really think the red pill is? As in what do you think red pillers actually think?

[Minxxie]

I've read up on it and I'm just going to tell you now, one day you are going to be really embarrassed with yourself for buying into this sham so wholeheartedly. I'm just telling you the truth, but carry on at your own risk.

[notcreativethough]

Wholeheartedly is not how I'd put it, everything I read that's red pill I read with skepticism. I even read the blue pill reddit, a group that mocks the red pill, just to get some more perspective. It's when I put theory into practice, and see how evolutionary psychology and what has been conditioned into me through society are very misaligned that I realize that this is beneficial to me.

I've already looked back on past behaviours with regret and shame, the ones I corrected through the red pill.

[myTake Owner]

The red pill is no where near religion. We use theories proven by fact and experience. Anything in the entire world can be researched but as soon as you look into female psychology, people like you get but hurt and call us extremists or a "cult"

[Minxxie]

it's not going to fix your unpleasant know it all personality :)

[myTake Owner]

You seem to know a lot about me from words on a screen. Maybe I am just very well informed on the subject.

[djmzes]

One over ten millions...
Simple. maths
10000000000000000-1=? ( does not it make an effect)

Secondly can u voice that out in public and in front of ur friend?
Only then u will make a change

[SakuraChii]

You either draw out the bad women in you life, go gay or stay single for the rest of your life. I don't understand why g@g always have these type of posts, this is "girlsaskguys" not "I hate feminists. com". I noticed that people like that tend to of had personal issues, either with their mother or bad women. Yet there are women out there who believe that all men are pigs and cheaters because of a few rotten apples. So umm double standards on both sides much?(since you act as though every man is perfect) Or maybe you all are just brainwashed, that's what it looks like in your last paragraph. It surprises me when adults do things like this, if this post was made by an anti social teenage boy with problems then I would understand.

[myTake Owner]

You assume to much.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Cool. Well I think that just like feminists there are good and bad parts of it. Both sides keep fighting for equality which still is irritating because lets be honest men and women are different. Ultimately its a political shitstorm, that no one is will to just let stop, feminism was great, they should keep going so men and women are paid equally; but there is a line and feminism has crossed it many times. Not because of the level headed individuals but because they put on the face of a bunch of raging psychos.
MGTOW is full of crap as well, they solely believe in giving up but what they don't understand is that you don't have to constantly ask girls out you can just be happy. I think the people in both organizations who actually are doing something are over shadowed by both raging bastards and bitches. Besides I hate the fact we as a society are still bothering with this crap all while there is more pressing issues in the world; then who has to make the sandwich.

[inamorata]

MGTOW's are not evil, they are morons. They don't understand how relationships work, nor do they understand how women work. That's the very reason they are MGTOWs.
Pussy whipped guys choosing to opt out of society because no one ever thought them how to take charge in (all) relationships and assume their masculine role in order to bring harmony and secure commitment out of everyone involved.

I know Eastern European, Balkan and few Armenian guys who live and work in USA as your citizens. Live in your culture and under your laws, some dating YOUR women. They aren't afraid of your society just like good parents who know how to raise their kids aren't afraid of their kids calling child protective services. If you mentioned MGTOW and red pill to them, they'd laugh in your face and call you a pussy. And rightly so.

[inamorata]

I'll grant you one thing and that's that your grievances over a retarderly arranged society are truthful. But your understanding of their origin, their effects on men and women, your understanding of women, your understanding of your own responsibility for those problems is a fucking 0.

[myTake Owner]

MGTOW is a sect of the red pill, and does not comprise all of us. I simply argue against biased laws and social comventions, or study the evolutionary psychology of intersexual dynamics.

[inamorata]

MGTOW claims they are the only ones with the red pill. I saw it mentioned elsewhere but they are hogging it.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Hmm pussy whipped means you only stay in a relationship because of vagina.

[inamorata]

@OrdinaryGentleman No, it means you have assertiveness and leadership skills of a kitten.

[inamorata]

You can't stand up to women. Mostly likely raised by a single mommy.

[PT1911]

Going at it again @inamorata? :p

[inamorata]

@PT1911 Dude, I visit regularly and do my duty of bashing idiocy diligently. I'd never leave this poor place for too long, all alone, stranded in the dark of MGTOW/feminist bullshit.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Trolling on here for bullshit arguments because someone may be wrong, shows that you let your own ego get in the way of actually doing something. News flash anyone who is MGTOW or feminist on here is that way for a reason; do you think they will suddenly change? How about you get off your high horse because to everyone else right now you are a child. Grow up. @inamorata

[inamorata]

@OrdinaryGentleman Yes, you are right. There is a good reason why everyone here is MGTOW/feminist. They are mostly uninformed and emotional, and sometimes, just too fucking dumb to ever process any information no matter what I do.
I argue because I have faith in human intelligence. But hurt emotional little bitches like you don't hear what I say to them either way. So I have to attack their pathetic emotional reasoning before I can lay facts out before them.

Like the retarded dumb, buthurt, whiny dribble you just wrote here: "You are immature! You don't understand! You are arrogant! Your ego stops you from doing some stuff!!! Wha! Wha!"

You whiny pathetic little bitch.

[myTake Owner]

Foreigners would never complain because they do not share the same freedom. You can deny it all you want, but society is gynocentered. I'm not one fire politics, so I don't concern myself with changing that. I do however develop contingencies like any smart man would do.

[inamorata]

They would not complain because they don't share the freedom?
Wtf are you talking about. Those are guys with working visas over there! Some refugees raised in US. They have as many rights as you do.

[inamorata]

And I did't deny America has a crappy geocentric society. I granted you that in a comment right bellow the main one because I know your complaints. Your feminist society is badly constructed I don't deny it.
But YOU personally are not a smart man. If you were you would recognize it all begins with your emasculation.

[inamorata]

gynocentric* (sorry, grammar correct)

[myTake Owner]

The emasculation caused by feminism started before my time and will last after my death.

[inamorata]

YOU are emasculated Feminism lives on because it cut YOUR balls off. It's so easy to pass responsibility on people before and after you. With that emasculated kind thinking, you'll remain sackless and raise your son to be like you, since he'll have no other role model. If you remain sackless, it's up to your son to change and your grandson to make a new society. You're at fault as much as any of us.

[myTake Owner]

My balls are quite fine thank you. The red pill helped with that.

[inamorata]

Your son is fucked.

[myTake Owner]

I don't know where your getting your assumptions from.

[inamorata]

Years of research and experience with functional and dysfunctional societies and relationships.

[myTake Owner]

I also have years of research and experience, and all of the worlds research put together couldn't judge my character from words on a screen. Your claims are unfounded.

[inamorata]

Your opinions are enough.

[myTake Owner]

Opinions are universal. They do not belong to ones character. If we're just going off of opinions I'd say your superiority complex is painfully evident.

[inamorata]

Next to your dumb opinions on gender and how to fix it, that reveal your social incompetence, you reinforce it by clinging to armchair psychology. You're more pathetic than I first thought.

[myTake Owner]

Clas are still unfounded. If you actually read the MyTake you'd know I am very socially competent. You can't beat my logic so you try to shame me, a predictable tactic. And I am not clinging to anything. Unlike you I'm not do invested in my own ego so much that my views become unadaptable. I reason the way I do because experience has taught me well. Obviously you have not been so lucky.

[myTake Owner]

Claims*

[inamorata]

You put forth no reasoning and no experience, nor have I. This is not a debate you delusional dummy. I called you an idiot and made broad blanket statements I can sure as hell back up and you did the same. Only you're so dumb, you think that constitutes debating.

And your myTake is basically: "We're not so bad."

[myTake Owner]

You have a point, but it takes two to argue. I can tell you are not unintelligent but you assume too much. The point of the MyTake was to dispel negative (and in most cases, false) stereotypes about the red pill and those who agree with it.

[inamorata]

You claimed you're not a monster, hater, evil.
I never said you guys were evil. Just stupid.

[myTake Owner]

I'm a perfectly sound rational agent and so are the other red pill men and women I've met.

[inamorata]

They're rational and sound for sure. But they're still misinformed and emotional in their reasoning. "Stupid" is just short for misinformed + emotional reasoning.

[inamorata]

And by rational and sound, I mean "not retarded".

[inamorata]

Now I sound dumb. Fuck.

[myTake Owner]

I hate to keep arguing with you but I must point out the contrary. I am very well informed. I try and find the least biased studies from colleges or legitimate sources, and although I detest politics I make sure to keep up to date with current events. I've actually been accused on numerous occasions of being to calculating. I try to separate emotion from studies as it distorts the final judgment.

[inamorata]

Hahahaha! Everything you wrote here defensively, going back and forth with me, trying to "prove" I'm wrong and then finally attacking me for having a "superiority complex" speaks much louder than you claiming you're detached. You're the most emotional bitch in here.

[myTake Owner]

It was not an attack, it was an analysis. At no point did I attack you. You did all the aggression here, if anyone is emotional it is you. But of course you think your shot doesn't stink.

[inamorata]

Still whining and "analyzing" I see... Go away you baby.

[myTake Owner]

Shit*

[myTake Owner]

Your attempted shaming does you no good here. The post was simply a refutal of your's. again your insults are unfounded.

[PT1911]

Its sad that a woman knows more about being a man than a majority of men do...

[inamorata]

Again with the emotional: "I'm just refuting analytically."
Asker you can call it shaming, I call it describing.

@PT1911 You know, I feel like such a cunt demonstrating that here. It really clears up the values of femininity in my mind and it's difference from masculinity.
If I could reach clear definitions, it would be a myTake. ^^

[myTake Owner]

You're not being a cunt, your arguing, no matter how naive the view @PT1911 you act as if there is one clear definition of man.

[PT1911]

Be as cunty as you want :p

But go make me a sandwich please. I'm considering writing a mytake on how casual sex and hooking up are destroying romance and a sandwich made by a respectable woman such as yourself will help me with that :p

[inamorata]

Take owner there is.
A man is the member of the male gender who has authority over women and children in order to care for them, bring harmony and protect them.

Establishing male authority requires infliction of pain and provision of reward in order to establish control required to maintain authority.

Debate, directness, clarity and precision are males forms of expression.
Me calling you an idiot is a male form of expression. Me clearly and precisely defining what a man is, is a male form of expression.

You going on indirect accusations of a superiority complex and spouting hippy/feminist, bullshit lines like: "Masculinity is in many forms." Without any clarity or structure to your thought process, is exactly the kind of emasculated expression he is referring to. An expression of an emotional woman who doesn't bother to reason and dominate. She first and foremost protects and rationalizes her emotion.

[inamorata]

@PT1911 Haha, you're not my man PT, I can't be making sandwiches to you, when I have my family to feed. My brothers eat like a pregnant lady. xD But since you're a nice person, I'll make an extra for you this time only. ^^

[myTake Owner]

All I have done is reason with you, and my accusation of a superiority complex was very direct. Your emotions cloud your judgement, mine do not. Your so called "male forms of expression" are just agressive babble. I do agree with you on the point of children raising though. With so many single mothers, there is no positive masculine influence for young boys.

[inamorata]

See? Like a proper emotional woman you can't even begin to understand what I'm telling you.
You weren't direct about accusing me of a superiority complex, you're just a pussy who is too indirect to say what he really thinks. So you wrap your thoughts and feelings in arbitrary, imprecise, random, butthurt psychobabble. I am the only one direct. I think you're an idiot.

[myTake Owner]

What you think doesn't matter, and your bullshit argument doesn't phase me. The level of emotion you show has increased with every post. Your constant attack on my masculinity was entertaining to read for awhile but honestly is getting repetitive. You are ignorant of your own fault.

[inamorata]

I am honest and direct. That's why my emotion shows. You're a fag who acts tough.

[myTake Owner]

I don't act. Do you not see the hypocrisy of your own words? Your shit stinks, just like everyone else's. your directness only serves to highlight how naive and ignorant you are about the world. Your bullshit does not phase me.

[PT1911]

Why thank you kindly:) @inamorata

[inamorata]

See? Now you're being a bit less of a little bitch and your emotion is coming out. Still elaborate, whiny and indirect, but at least you're honestly butthurt instead of trying to be a "stoic" fag.

[myTake Owner]

My patience is not infinite, especially for ignorance as such.

[inamorata]

Back to pretending you're a mighty stoic fag? :/
Oh well...

[myTake Owner]

You act as if I must pretend to be stoic. This conversation does not effect my life in the least. You will still have your dillusional views of the world, and at the end I will still know more than you. Your opinion on me does not matter.

[inamorata]

You, a "stoic" semi-intellectual fag who accused me of being too emotional, are not accusing me of feigning stoicism. Make up your mind woman. At least have the decency to stick to ONE brand of bullshit there to protect your feelings.

[inamorata]

are now accusing me*

[myTake Owner]

I never accused you of being stoic, go back as read my comments. My feelings do not need protecting from the likes of you. your over use of the word fag is entertaining.

[myTake Owner]

I must have really gotten under your skin. You are salty.

[inamorata]

All you did was protect your feelings. And fag is an adequate word to describe someone whining for 500 posts and then trying to smirk after all their mind numbing stupidity.

[myTake Owner]

You obviously do not know the definition of whining. Your are idiotic and you know you cannot beat me with logic. It is why you resorted to name calling.

[inamorata]

Describing.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Why are they morons?

[inamorata]

@OrdinaryGentleman They agree with feminist lies about men, women and relationships. But then turn around and bitch about the consequences of living according to those lies. (like men and women should be equal, being a man means anything or my opposite gender is a psychopathic user)
They sound just like fucking feminists, with the same dumbass mentality, same kinds of misconceptions about people and the opposite gender, while turning that feminized bullshit against feminists and relationships, making peace with the status quo, expecting women to save their emasculated asses, while the whole time not seeing how emasculated they are and that THAT is the main problem they should be focused on.

[OrdinaryGentleman]

Cool. Well I think that just like feminists there are good and bad parts of it. Both sides keep fighting for equality which still is irritating because lets be honest men and women are different. Ultimately its a political shitstorm, that no one is will to just let stop, feminism was great, they should keep going so men and women are paid equally; but there is a line and feminism has crossed it many times. Not because of the level headed individuals but because they put on the face of a bunch of raging psychos.
MGTOW is full of crap as well, they solely believe in giving up but what they don't understand is that you don't have to constantly ask girls out you can just be happy. I think the people in both organizations who actually are doing something are over shadowed by both raging bastards and bitches. Besides I hate the fact we as a society are still bothering with this crap all while there is more pressing issues in the world; then who has to make the sandwich.

[myTake Owner]

You are misinformed about the re pill, as it combats feminist lies. Go do your research.

[inamorata]

Take Owner I am not misinformed. I looked at MGTOW philosophy extensively. It's retarded.

@OrdinaryGentleman Feminism was never "good". It was based on lies. Go search Karen Straughan's speeches that explain this, I can't type it all out.
Pay gap is a myth. It's not true. (look it up)
"You don't have to ask girls our, you can just be happy." - I have NO idea what you mean by this.

[myTake Owner]

I do not endorse MGTOW. I already said that they are a sect despite what they claim. The red pill theories I endorse deal with getting the best you can from women, and when your ready having a successful marriage/life partner through positive masculine influence and control. I do not agree with writing of females as a whole.

[inamorata]

You're like a coffee-shop feminist, only you're a coffee-shop MGTOW. You spew some of their dumb shit, but start it out with: "Now I'm not a MGTOW, but..."

[myTake Owner]

You do not understand. The red pill is the whole group. MGTOW is a group of men swearing off women, they are a group inside the red pill community. I'm a Christian. But I'm not catholic, you see how that works?

[myTake Owner]

You literally have no concept of what your arguing about actually is.

[inamorata]

Just like saying: "I'm not a feminist. Feminists hate men. I don't hate men. See?"
You dumbass...-_-

[myTake Owner]

MGTOW is completely separate. I don't get how you can't understand this. I cannot make it any simpler for you. What your saying Is like calling me catholic because I'm Christian.

[myTake Owner]

Therationalmale. com read some articles on this website it might clear things up for you.

[inamorata]

Stop pretending this is a debate. Stop pretending you reasoned trough any of your claims. Stop pretending I did. Don't link me a site to prove a point you never stated. It's absurd.
Seriously I'm gonna stop being a cunt now and get out of here... I'm too dumb to handle this level of stupid effectively.

[LordofDarklords]

Morons for not sacrificing time money effort and even life for you. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Yeah yeah. I know you're going to say "oh that's so cliché". So what that is the truth. Do research on "male plight" then try spewing your gynocentric bullshit. I won't except main anymore to you because since many of you "womyn" here are soooooo "strong and independent" you can do the digging and searching for the information yourself! TL/DR? Too fucking bad!

[LordofDarklords]

Then stay fucking ignorant in your social justice world. "Don't link me to a site" . That is not the only source out there. In fact I fucking hate rationalmale anyway! I won't link you anything since apparently you know it all or perhaps you are smart enough to gain knowledge for yourself. And No... Don't ever stop being a cunt. Because you will be defeating yourself anyway. Know the Laws of Nature "sweetheart"!

[Shrugs83]

I would love to see someone actually say they were "red piller " in front of anyone in real life and expect for anyone to take them seriously ever again. That doesn't exist. You're a bitter misogynist. Accept it.

[myTake Owner]

Instead of viewing te facts you try to dismiss the ideas, typical you can't stand up to logic.

[Shrugs83]

You can't find logic where there is none. But by your "logic" what I'm saying shouldn't even bother you.

[myTake Owner]

True story.

[thatkaruguy]

i keep my views on this kind of stuff to myself usually because women get rabid when a man would ever dare to do something that doesn't include their way at all. i dont hate women i just call them out on their shit or dont go with their shit and they have a lot of shit..

[Anonymous]

It's good of you to make peace with such an inexorable truth; you're such a saint. You know... unless you're simply recasting a beloved movie reference in service of baseless hackneyed sexism.
By the way presenting views, devoid of objective  backing, as inherently true doesn't lend them credability; it simply discloses the hamfisted rhetorical tactics of of a biased thinker. Most bigots claim their view are incontrovertible.

Furthermore, I would imagine that most self-respecting women have no interest in being with someone who belives that the sum of their sexual identity is the product of an invisible hand of culture playing puppet master with their impressionable womenly minds.  So unless you chance upon a lady with profoundly low self-efficacy I don't see anyone masochistic enough to deal with you and that little mysogynistic narative you got going on.

Nice troll by the way. I just gave you a feast...

[myTake Owner]

Not a troll and definitely not bigoted, no more than any fly on the wall. I simply observe facts and something about that you can't handle.

[ThisDudeHere]

Much like feminism the red pill can be associated with evil only because certain individuals that propagate it are evil themselves. I have know of the red pill for quite some time now and I have never had a woman in my life - but despite that and despite knowing of the pill, I'm still not bitter towards women. Dunno why tho'. Maybe I'm just a nice person.

[Mustachekitteh]

I had no clue what that was until I looked that.www.urbandictionary.com/define.php

Meh what ever floats your boat.

[Anonymous]

The red pill... Another MRA attack

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[DaddyRollingStone]

Red pill is more than just anti feminism. You forgot the NatSoc version where their solution would just be to kill all the feminists.

Anyway, as a tradcon I would just like to turn the clock back maybe 100 years and we'd be fine.

[Opinion Owner]

" I would just like to turn the clock back maybe 100 years"

Another attack by the Patriarchy!
Those times are over O-V-E-R.

[dudeman]

The red pill is not just mra.

[Opinion Owner]

Not just MRA, also MGTOW, indeed. Where's the real difference?

[Anonymous]

Back in the day women didn't go to school or have careers. Should we confine women to the house again? Should there only be one voice in the house? NO.

Should we be as harsh on women when they commit the same crime? Should we expect the same in everything from women and treat them exactly the same in everything except maternity stuff? YES.

[Maverickj]

"and treat them exactly the same in everything except maternity stuff? YES. "

Why?

[myTake Owner]

Anon that's literally has nothing to do with the red pill.

[Opinion Owner]

Why not Maverickj? Equality is the future.

@Take Owner, well yeah, kinda... I mean, all the problems men are facing today as far as sex goes is because of women's liberation. If every woman was married off and divorce was banned, we would all have our regular supply of sex waiting in the house! haha

[dudeman]

U clearly dont understand the red pill.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh please. People who take the red pill are all about PUA, alpha/beta, winners/losers, nofap, real men/pussies, game, women's manipulation, shaming blue pill men, MRA etc.

I know exactly what it is, good sir.

[myTake Owner]

I've never even been labeled as a player, I don't hunt for pussy. I'm actually a very courteous person, and I still find red pill ideas truthful.

[Riggers]

Where can i like this post? xD

A' Fuckin Rite Dude. Preach that shit.

[lePoivre]

I clicked on this thinking it meant the red pills in a pack of birth control ^^; I am confused though. What is the red pill in this sense? Other than a reference to The Matrix.

[dudeman]

The red pill is the knowing the true nature of women and society. We are a generation of young men raised by single moms who lied to us on what women want and there true nature. We have been indoctrinated with feminist double speak and rehtoric.

[Yellowbone]

I was completely oblivious to this red pill, blue pill shit until I just did some research.

But are y'all really taking this that damn seriously? Why does talking to girls have to be so damn technical for you guys?

[myTake Owner]

It's not just talking about girls. It ecompasses politics, social conventions, etc.

[Yellowbone]

You're talking about girls in this article though.

[Bysshe]

"Why does talking to girls have to be so damn technical for you guys?"

I have theory for that...

Guys are typically more object orientated than girls, socially inept guys tend to be the ones at the extreme of that spectrum - while most guys are somewhat object orientated, these guys are full on object orientated and being analytical is just what occurs to them. They see girls as things that can be studied/analysed and then interacted with based on previous outcomes.

[Drednaught]

@Bysshe
Out of curiosity, why exactly do you think that? Did you derive this from a few personal anecdotes, or did you study psychology? I find that I think everyone is just like me in the sense that they have their own thoughts, feelings, and desires that are independent of others. I only analyze other people as much as I do myself, so saying that I'm above that makes no sense to me.

[djmzes]

Follow society or follow what is right...
Let see... also I did not say what is right or wrong tho...

So up to u find out

[Anonymous]

Rule 1: Using science fiction inspired analogies doesn't help you get laid...

[myTake Owner]

It's not the analogies but the ideas behind them.