Wow this is easily the most disrespectful thing I have seen all day, obviously you have no clue what stay at home mothers actually do or how hard they work.
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Read the last paragraph of my take. Clearly you didn't get that far.
While I personally don't wish to be a stay at home mom (or a mom at all), what about women whose husbands force them to stay at home? I have a number of friends who got married thinking they'd be able to continue to work and low and behold their husbands made them quit their jobs and live in 1-2 bedroom apartments and raise kids they didn't want in the first place. Who's fault is that?
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Their own fault, frankly. Everyone is at all times 100% accountable for themselves and every circumstance of their life, with exceptions such as the mentally handicapped. Any able-bodied and able-minded individual needs to grow up and behave as needed to ensure their own well-being. Failure to do so is entirely on them.
The type of men you mention ARE assholes... but those women are NOT victims. They CHOOSE to live that way. Shame on them.
but why would they assume they'd be able to work after having babies if daycare is like 1K a month? where did they expect the money to come from, unless they worked high pay jobs?
Because their professions range from being accountants to executive assistants. @VampireEmpress - they didn't think the kid would be the death sentence it ended up being. The one even was told by her doctor never to have children because it put her in the extreme risk category and yet her husband told her she'd keep having kids until she gave him a son. She'll never get to work. Even though her job made 3x as much a year as his does. But the man doesn't stay home. The woman must sacrifice. That's his mentality.
'Cause he said so. She said she didn't want kids for at least 10 years (they married when she was 18) and they had a honeymoon baby because "birth control is the woman's job and he doesn't use condoms." She wanted to go to work but "it's the man's job to provide" even if he can only afford to pay for a 2 bedroom apartment in a shitty neighborhood. It turns me off from having children because the way I see it... they're the death of me. They're restrictive and destroy your social life, work life, and with my personality, they'd destroy my marriage :p
But that's her life now so... yeah. Baby number 2 is due in January. Even though the doctor is SUPER concerned.
No, I actually have a strong revulsion to stay at home moms. I'll copy paste a story I shared with another user:
"Know what disgusts me? A friend of my sister went to college, took out all kinds of debt, got married... then stopped looking for work. Her husband is in the military and has been deployed to hot zones. And she stays home, does nothing, and spends his money to remodel the house... and do nothing. Filthy, disgusting behavior. And she dares complain about that man "not doing enough.""
lets turn the tables @asker i have a question for you how do you feel about stay at home dads? or what about men who go to school, have a job, take out student loans, and still can't afford to pay their way through school, so their wife or girlfriend offers to help them out? what do you have to say to that?
Took you awhile to answer that but whatever I always thought single parents are badass because raising kids, balancing a checkbook, and keeping your sanity is not easy.
Your ridiculously ignorant. You have not a clue what goes into being a stay at home mom. Non, why your not a stay at home mom or even a dad. Its easy to criticize something you haven't lived through. My mom was a stay at hone mom, and worked hard, and her job didn't end when my dad came home it continued until she went to bed. I work full time, I have no kids but when I watched my god kids it was way more work than my full time job. FYI, the father should be helping too. I hope you never marry or have kids
It all depends on the guy some guys want there girlfriend or wife to be home and raise there child rather than some random person, If the guy is okay with it and wants her to be home and has a good job and is on his feet then I don't see the problem. I personally would feel reassured to have my gf/wife at home taking care of my child, then again that doesn't mean you have a child then if that was the case then yea a job wouldn't hurt, there's no need for you to bash every stay at home mom though.
a stay at home mom isn't a permanent job. you can start working a couple hours when your kid starts going to school. maybe try to work from home? i understand that its hard for women to watch the kids and work but its also very difficult for a man to take care of an entire family. life is hard. making money is hard. it would be very difficult for 1 person to take care of an entire family. plus what is a mom going to do when her kids are at school?
Oh my gosh you watch other people's children , not your own have friends that have father workthe mom staying home.
Then I have another friend her ad her husband both work but at differenttimes. One parent is always with the kids to the stay at home moms and dads don't listen to these idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about. No lady is going to you after these article.
My sister R she worked as a hair cutting salon But she decide to. want to. stay home and care for her son she does a lot of stuff , she cooks she cleans she gives her son what he needs gets him off to bed she cleans she and her man rob even. helps with that even. though he as just been working. So you are so WRONG stay at home moms are not lazy there smart as can be.
I'm sorry for the girl that will end up with you as your wife... Like really? How the hell would she take care of your kids? Clean the house? Cook? Do the things that YOU need?
"taking care of a home and kids is EASY" YEAH!! OF COURSE IT IS!!! 😒😒 like yes, women shouldn't depend on men on everything but its not like they are at home just watching TV all day! Moms aren't robots! They can't work, clean, cook, raise children, etc all together! She has HER THINGS and you have yours! If the women wants to work then GREAT! if not then its ok!!
The mom SHOULD work but thats if : 1- she WANTS to work 2- if the father doesn't have enough money in his current job so the mom should help by working as well...
rather than that... I see its better for her to study, complete University, then take care of her family and house! Later on IF she wants to work or if she sees that they need more money she can work
Dude, Stay at home moms are very beneficial to the lives of their children. Don't get me wrong I'm all for equal rights and equal work, but if a woman chooses to be a stay at home mom, then she's going to stick with that decision. I have friends who are stay at home moms and they are wonderful. They work hard to provide a decent household. They may not make any money from it, but it helps to set up a proper home
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All of those tasks can be done by paid help if the wife is pulling her weight (or stay at home dad, for that matter).
I am glad you think well of your friends, but their potential is being wasted.
We'll maybe they want to be stay at home moms, even if the wife got a job they may not even then have enough for hired help. Nannies, maids, butlers are expensive, plus you can't really trust hired help they may steal from you or abuse your kids
@asker why the heck would u rather have hired help raising ur kids? That makes no sense. 1. They're so expensive any average person can't even earn enough to pay for hired help And 2. Wouldn't u rather have a loving parent raise ur kid than a stranger? That way ur in control of how they're raised. Strangers don't care how ur kids turn out. Honestly I think this is y the world these days has so many fucked up people like u in it
I mean if we were talking about a woman who stays home for no reason at all then i would agree. But mothers who stay at home work really hard. Its hard to take care of a child. Its a full time job. That argument would only work if the child was old enough to stay home and take care of themself
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"Its hard to take care of a child. Its a full time job."
No, it isn't hard. And if she was pulling her weight in the relationship and making use of the education that she *should* have, she should have ample money to pay someone to take care of menial tasks that suck up her valuable time.
No it isn't hard? Says you, someone who isn't a parent and has no clue what they're talking about, other than venting about your probably EX girlfriend who maybe had a child and took advantage of you clearly. But you cannot say it isn't hard until you've been sleep deprived for days on end and still expected to run a house, errands, manage other children and your spouse without breaks or time-off. The majority of Stay at home moms pull MORE than their weight by caring for everyone and neglecting themselves. The fact that you value an education more than family shows what's important to you. And if you value education above all else, that;s your prerogative, and I hope you're happy when you're rotting away in a old folks home someday, waving your *education* around for everyone to admire, because that's what's REALLY important at the end of the day, huh?
Staying at home couldn't be easier. Seriously, most people today don't do ANYTHING when they are at home. Home cooked dinner? NO. It's a microwave ready dinner, taking her negligible time to prepare. Dishes? Dishwasher.
Seriously, that crap couldn't be easier. Hell, I cook better than basically all the women I know, excepting the handful who work in culinary positions. Most people today have it damnably easy, and that video is simply tapping into the widespread victim mentality that low-value, incompetent people feel--which is unfortunately the majority of people, which is why it seems to be so well-received.
Umm... I am a woman. I obviously don't hate them. Nice try though. It really sounds like you are the one who hates women. Dude, get a grip. When you become a stay-at-home mom, I will take your opinion seriously. You have no clue what being a mom entails.
Lol. Being on your period and bitchy is not the weakness. It's the lack of self-control that is weak. It's funny how you seem to think it's okay to shove your chauvinist crap down my throat, but tell me you don't give a shit about my opinion on the subject. What made you think I wanted to see a post like this on my feed? Did you think it would change my life somehow? No. This was just a useless rant as a result of your lack of happiness in your life. Misery really does love company.
That's a symptom of the modern era, not the one I am talking about. Most people would only have children when they were married, and if they werent ready for children then they wouldn't get married. Pretty easy.
@DaddyRollingStone Having not had one growing up, not particarly. I can certainly get by without it. I simply don't like kids. It's not that I don't value them (they're obviously critical to any species), but I personally don't enjoy them. And the life I want to leave, travellig the world and never settling in one place, wouldn't be suitable for children.
@DiamondRuby I think most people mellow out as they age and what they want changes, some later than others. I can see the appeal of just going on adventures and stuff when you're young, there is no better time to do it honestly
hahahah it's funny cus "one of those types" feel the same way about you. A stuck up snob who values education and capitalizing on everything rather than seeing life for what it is and helping and loving people. Guess what you CAN'T get with your viewpoint? Love. That's right. So be proud of your education and how smart you perceive yourself to be since you are clearly perfect, and should be PRESIDENT because you have all the answers for stay at home moms! How BRILLIANT you are! I hope your pious attitude and college education keep you warm at night when you're all alone ;) Because the real stay at home moms that you're bashing, although way more exhausted than you, are also intern WAY MORE LOVED than you will ever be.
It depends entirely on what the couple decides. It's not okay to assume a stay-at-home position if they agreed to both start working again. But it can work for some people. Raising children does take a lot of work. It's not the same as taking care of a sick family members who you don't have to teach anything.
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Raising kids is easy. I mentioned I had to take over a house for an ill-family member: that included caring for their kids. Several months I did that, and it was easy, and not nearly as time-consuming as women are constantly complaining about. Whether it's ironing, cooking, cleaning, watching the kids, whatever else, it was dead easy.
People who complain about it are pathetic. It's almost certainly a marker of sloth and incompetence.
If a couple mutually decides that one of them should be a stay at home parent, its not your place to tell them that that is unacceptable.
My mother had a good career but my father insisted she stay at home with me and my brother until I was about 6/7 years old and so she did. Now she's a special ed teacher. Having a stay at home mom was great for my brother and I. It worked for our family. If its agreed on, what's the problem?
And for your information, my mom didn't sit on her ass drinking coffee and watching Dr. Phil. She took us to appointments, cleaned, cooked, shopped, did yard work, even fixed stuff around the house and did maintenance, etc. Its work. Not saying its akin to being a lawyer or something but it isn't easy. If its easy you're not doing it right.
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"If a couple mutually decides that one of them should be a stay at home parent, its not your place to tell them that that is unacceptable."
Since that has been a common objection, I'll copy/paste a previous response: And when the sole provider loses his/her job (let's make sure we include the stay at home dads...), then what happens to the family? Starvation? Government assistance? Imposing upon extended family/friends?
It seems like it should be a personal choice. But it has societal implications, and from that vantage point, choosing to be a single-income family is extraordinarily selfish and irresponsible.
That's the fault of both the parents then, not just the stay at home mom. My parents have always been financially safe. If my father lost his job we'd suffer but we wouldn't be out on the streets and my mom is qualified enough to pick up a job fairly quickly.
How about you try pushing a watermelon out of your genetailia and then raise it, feed it, do the laundry, do the dishes, shop for food, and still make time to have a full time job. If you do that, I'll agree do this.
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Once you've actually done it, Miss 13 year old, then you can try berating me with the "life is hard as a woman" card.
Actually, my mom is a stay at home mother, she's always stressed, and I'm basically a second mother to my brother because she's depressed. You don't know my life, but you have no right to play the "Women have it easy card" Because you're not a woman so I have more room for my opinion than you do.
I can understand it when the kids are still toddlers. I don't understand it when the kids are in school full time though. I suppose if the couple are happy with that, it's fine but I will never get it. One of my coworkers works two jobs while his wife stays at home with their kids. At first I thought they were little kids but they aren't. Two are college aged and the other two are in High School. I can't understand why he works two jobs and she doesn't work when their kids are older. From the sounds of it, he isn't happy with the arrangement either. He tells us all the time that it irritates him to go home and find the house a mess, no food made and everyone sitting around and doing nothing.
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Sounds like the archetypal parasite.
I get that taking care of children isn't always sugar and roses, but the situation you just described is just sickening.
Yeah a lot of us think that. I don't plan to have kids but I always respected my mom for staying home the first three years. After that she went back top work. My sister and I are a year apart so she stayed with us until maybe I was two and a half and then she went back to work.
You sound like a asshole. Children need their mother! if a couple both agree its for the best if the wife stays home to raise the kids then do not bash their choice! being a mother is a full time job!
"being a mother is a full time job!" For about 5 years. Then it becomes a part-time "on-call" job.
Children need their fathers too. In fact, the single biggest indicator for negative outcomes in a persons life is fatherlessness, for both boys and girls.
However, I don't disagree with your thesis statement: Dude sounds like an asshole.
Who are you to tell other people what is acceptable and whats not? You're jesus? I dont think so. I wouldn't personally want to be a stay home mom, but i dont mind the idea of it either, if my husband would be a millionare lets say.
If you're partner makes a shit ton of money then why not? If you want to raise your kids by yourself the. Why not? Smh
people do this since daycare is so expensive. I think older family should do it instead, since they have more experience with kids, and people wouldn't act mean towards them, since it's more taboo. kids get more expensive as time goes on, so I wouldn't want to stop working.
I've known people who had thousands in debt, all because they had 1 or 2 kids. and that was after they budgeted everything!!! they used daycare... but I've known a few more people who didn't, and they still had barely any money at the end of the month, and had to make rent/mortgage payments with their credit cards.
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They should get higher paying jobs and/or start a business for extra revenue. No excuses.
Again, they should get higher paying jobs. If they can't afford the cost of living, then they need to do something about it.
If they had ambition and actually were generating better revenue, paying for childcare would not be an issue. If the parents can generate $100 an hour, then they shouldn't be doing minimum wage level tasks.
Sorry, those problems are a result of poor decision making, and going to a single working parent home is compounding the problem. Not only is the stay-at-home parent killing their career, if the other parent loses their job (which is extraordinarily easy to have happen today), then where does that leave the family?
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Wow this is easily the most disrespectful thing I have seen all day, obviously you have no clue what stay at home mothers actually do or how hard they work.
Read the last paragraph of my take. Clearly you didn't get that far.
While I personally don't wish to be a stay at home mom (or a mom at all), what about women whose husbands force them to stay at home? I have a number of friends who got married thinking they'd be able to continue to work and low and behold their husbands made them quit their jobs and live in 1-2 bedroom apartments and raise kids they didn't want in the first place. Who's fault is that?
Their own fault, frankly. Everyone is at all times 100% accountable for themselves and every circumstance of their life, with exceptions such as the mentally handicapped. Any able-bodied and able-minded individual needs to grow up and behave as needed to ensure their own well-being. Failure to do so is entirely on them.
The type of men you mention ARE assholes... but those women are NOT victims. They CHOOSE to live that way. Shame on them.
but why would they assume they'd be able to work after having babies if daycare is like 1K a month? where did they expect the money to come from, unless they worked high pay jobs?
Because their professions range from being accountants to executive assistants. @VampireEmpress - they didn't think the kid would be the death sentence it ended up being. The one even was told by her doctor never to have children because it put her in the extreme risk category and yet her husband told her she'd keep having kids until she gave him a son. She'll never get to work. Even though her job made 3x as much a year as his does. But the man doesn't stay home. The woman must sacrifice. That's his mentality.
if she made that much, why didn't she divorce and have family/friends watch the kid?
Therein lies the question.
do you have any idea why she does it?
'Cause he said so. She said she didn't want kids for at least 10 years (they married when she was 18) and they had a honeymoon baby because "birth control is the woman's job and he doesn't use condoms." She wanted to go to work but "it's the man's job to provide" even if he can only afford to pay for a 2 bedroom apartment in a shitty neighborhood. It turns me off from having children because the way I see it... they're the death of me. They're restrictive and destroy your social life, work life, and with my personality, they'd destroy my marriage :p
But that's her life now so... yeah. Baby number 2 is due in January. Even though the doctor is SUPER concerned.
that's not a real story!!!
Sure it is.
TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!!!
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No, I actually have a strong revulsion to stay at home moms. I'll copy paste a story I shared with another user:
"Know what disgusts me? A friend of my sister went to college, took out all kinds of debt, got married... then stopped looking for work. Her husband is in the military and has been deployed to hot zones. And she stays home, does nothing, and spends his money to remodel the house... and do nothing. Filthy, disgusting behavior. And she dares complain about that man "not doing enough.""
I'm simply talking about real-life situations I've witnessed and have found revolting. Stay-at-home moms ARE revolting.
you sir are generalizing or you are trolling
personally i think you are revolting
Then I guess I'm "generalizing," as you put it.
As for being revolting--would that be because you have no ambition and don't like being called out?
I have no idea what you mean by that but you are welcome to go on about your life being an ass and trolling
Plus I love the fact that you are behind a computer yet is still being an generalizing asshat
lets turn the tables @asker i have a question for you how do you feel about stay at home dads? or what about men who go to school, have a job, take out student loans, and still can't afford to pay their way through school, so their wife or girlfriend offers to help them out? what do you have to say to that?
personally i always thought stay at home parents whether that be mom or dad are badass
Stay at home dads are pathetic, to answer your question.
Took you awhile to answer that but whatever I always thought single parents are badass because raising kids, balancing a checkbook, and keeping your sanity is not easy.
Your ridiculously ignorant. You have not a clue what goes into being a stay at home mom. Non, why your not a stay at home mom or even a dad. Its easy to criticize something you haven't lived through. My mom was a stay at hone mom, and worked hard, and her job didn't end when my dad came home it continued until she went to bed. I work full time, I have no kids but when I watched my god kids it was way more work than my full time job. FYI, the father should be helping too. I hope you never marry or have kids
It all depends on the guy some guys want there girlfriend or wife to be home and raise there child rather than some random person, If the guy is okay with it and wants her to be home and has a good job and is on his feet then I don't see the problem. I personally would feel reassured to have my gf/wife at home taking care of my child, then again that doesn't mean you have a child then if that was the case then yea a job wouldn't hurt, there's no need for you to bash every stay at home mom though.
a stay at home mom isn't a permanent job. you can start working a couple hours when your kid starts going to school. maybe try to work from home? i understand that its hard for women to watch the kids and work but its also very difficult for a man to take care of an entire family. life is hard. making money is hard. it would be very difficult for 1 person to take care of an entire family. plus what is a mom going to do when her kids are at school?
Oh my gosh you watch other people's children , not your own have friends that have father workthe mom staying home.
Then I have another friend her ad her husband both work but at differenttimes. One parent is always with the kids to the stay at home moms and dads don't listen to these idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about. No lady is going to you after these article.
My sister R she worked as a hair cutting salon
But she decide to. want to. stay home and care for her son she does a lot of stuff , she cooks she cleans she gives her son what he needs gets him off to bed she cleans she and her man rob even. helps with that even. though he as just been working. So you are so WRONG stay at home moms are not lazy there smart as can be.
I'm sorry for the girl that will end up with you as your wife... Like really? How the hell would she take care of your kids? Clean the house? Cook? Do the things that YOU need?
"taking care of a home and kids is EASY" YEAH!! OF COURSE IT IS!!! 😒😒
like yes, women shouldn't depend on men on everything but its not like they are at home just watching TV all day! Moms aren't robots! They can't work, clean, cook, raise children, etc all together! She has HER THINGS and you have yours!
If the women wants to work then GREAT! if not then its ok!!
The mom SHOULD work but thats if :
1- she WANTS to work
2- if the father doesn't have enough money in his current job so the mom should help by working as well...
rather than that... I see its better for her to study, complete University, then take care of her family and house! Later on IF she wants to work or if she sees that they need more money she can work
Dude, Stay at home moms are very beneficial to the lives of their children. Don't get me wrong I'm all for equal rights and equal work, but if a woman chooses to be a stay at home mom, then she's going to stick with that decision. I have friends who are stay at home moms and they are wonderful. They work hard to provide a decent household. They may not make any money from it, but it helps to set up a proper home
All of those tasks can be done by paid help if the wife is pulling her weight (or stay at home dad, for that matter).
I am glad you think well of your friends, but their potential is being wasted.
We'll maybe they want to be stay at home moms, even if the wife got a job they may not even then have enough for hired help. Nannies, maids, butlers are expensive, plus you can't really trust hired help they may steal from you or abuse your kids
@asker why the heck would u rather have hired help raising ur kids? That makes no sense.
1. They're so expensive any average person can't even earn enough to pay for hired help
And 2. Wouldn't u rather have a loving parent raise ur kid than a stranger? That way ur in control of how they're raised. Strangers don't care how ur kids turn out. Honestly I think this is y the world these days has so many fucked up people like u in it
They can get paid help to do the same things she Couldve been Doing Herself
I mean if we were talking about a woman who stays home for no reason at all then i would agree. But mothers who stay at home work really hard. Its hard to take care of a child. Its a full time job.
That argument would only work if the child was old enough to stay home and take care of themself
"Its hard to take care of a child. Its a full time job."
No, it isn't hard. And if she was pulling her weight in the relationship and making use of the education that she *should* have, she should have ample money to pay someone to take care of menial tasks that suck up her valuable time.
No it isn't hard? Says you, someone who isn't a parent and has no clue what they're talking about, other than venting about your probably EX girlfriend who maybe had a child and took advantage of you clearly. But you cannot say it isn't hard until you've been sleep deprived for days on end and still expected to run a house, errands, manage other children and your spouse without breaks or time-off. The majority of Stay at home moms pull MORE than their weight by caring for everyone and neglecting themselves. The fact that you value an education more than family shows what's important to you. And if you value education above all else, that;s your prerogative, and I hope you're happy when you're rotting away in a old folks home someday, waving your *education* around for everyone to admire, because that's what's REALLY important at the end of the day, huh?
Right, because being a mother is SUCH an easy job...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB3xM93rXbYIf that's how you feel, fine. But then you have no business getting her pregnant in the first place.
Lmao, this made my day!
Bullshit. Unbelievable bullshit.
Staying at home couldn't be easier. Seriously, most people today don't do ANYTHING when they are at home. Home cooked dinner? NO. It's a microwave ready dinner, taking her negligible time to prepare. Dishes? Dishwasher.
Seriously, that crap couldn't be easier. Hell, I cook better than basically all the women I know, excepting the handful who work in culinary positions. Most people today have it damnably easy, and that video is simply tapping into the widespread victim mentality that low-value, incompetent people feel--which is unfortunately the majority of people, which is why it seems to be so well-received.
*Shrug* Okay.
Nice!!!
Somebody's on their period. Are you okay honey? Do you need some Midol? Did you leave the tampon in too long?
Seriously though, it seems like you have some issues.
Why the hateful swipe at women? Quite unnecessary.
The only issues I have are with slothful people who take advantage of others, and stay at home moms are perfect examples of the sort.
Umm... I am a woman. I obviously don't hate them. Nice try though. It really sounds like you are the one who hates women. Dude, get a grip. When you become a stay-at-home mom, I will take your opinion seriously. You have no clue what being a mom entails.
Nice try. Huh.
Actually I meant that with some seriousness. You were using a woman's biology to imply weakness and using it as a put-down.
Clearly you disagree with me, which I don't give a shit about, but your sexism was showing in the process.
Lol. Being on your period and bitchy is not the weakness. It's the lack of self-control that is weak. It's funny how you seem to think it's okay to shove your chauvinist crap down my throat, but tell me you don't give a shit about my opinion on the subject. What made you think I wanted to see a post like this on my feed? Did you think it would change my life somehow? No. This was just a useless rant as a result of your lack of happiness in your life. Misery really does love company.
Women were made to be caregivers and nurturers, you are just too incompetent to realize how you can capitalize on it.
The death of the traditional family is the destruction of society and morality.
The destruction of society is stupid people who have children before they are financially and emotionally ready.
It has nothing to do with being"traditional" or not.
That's a symptom of the modern era, not the one I am talking about. Most people would only have children when they were married, and if they werent ready for children then they wouldn't get married. Pretty easy.
I don't ever want kids, but I do want to get married, so what does that say about me?
"The death of the traditional family is the destruction of society and morality."
Ugh, you're one of those types. I don't know that we can have a constructive conversation.
@DiamondRuby I don't know, you aren't a fan of family life?
@Take Owner as if your post was any indication that you were looking for constructive conversation anyway.
@DaddyRollingStone Having not had one growing up, not particarly. I can certainly get by without it. I simply don't like kids. It's not that I don't value them (they're obviously critical to any species), but I personally don't enjoy them. And the life I want to leave, travellig the world and never settling in one place, wouldn't be suitable for children.
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@DiamondRuby I think most people mellow out as they age and what they want changes, some later than others. I can see the appeal of just going on adventures and stuff when you're young, there is no better time to do it honestly
hahahah it's funny cus "one of those types" feel the same way about you. A stuck up snob who values education and capitalizing on everything rather than seeing life for what it is and helping and loving people. Guess what you CAN'T get with your viewpoint? Love. That's right. So be proud of your education and how smart you perceive yourself to be since you are clearly perfect, and should be PRESIDENT because you have all the answers for stay at home moms! How BRILLIANT you are! I hope your pious attitude and college education keep you warm at night when you're all alone ;) Because the real stay at home moms that you're bashing, although way more exhausted than you, are also intern WAY MORE LOVED than you will ever be.
It depends entirely on what the couple decides. It's not okay to assume a stay-at-home position if they agreed to both start working again. But it can work for some people. Raising children does take a lot of work. It's not the same as taking care of a sick family members who you don't have to teach anything.
Raising kids is easy. I mentioned I had to take over a house for an ill-family member: that included caring for their kids. Several months I did that, and it was easy, and not nearly as time-consuming as women are constantly complaining about. Whether it's ironing, cooking, cleaning, watching the kids, whatever else, it was dead easy.
People who complain about it are pathetic. It's almost certainly a marker of sloth and incompetence.
If a couple mutually decides that one of them should be a stay at home parent, its not your place to tell them that that is unacceptable.
My mother had a good career but my father insisted she stay at home with me and my brother until I was about 6/7 years old and so she did. Now she's a special ed teacher. Having a stay at home mom was great for my brother and I. It worked for our family. If its agreed on, what's the problem?
And for your information, my mom didn't sit on her ass drinking coffee and watching Dr. Phil. She took us to appointments, cleaned, cooked, shopped, did yard work, even fixed stuff around the house and did maintenance, etc. Its work. Not saying its akin to being a lawyer or something but it isn't easy. If its easy you're not doing it right.
"If a couple mutually decides that one of them should be a stay at home parent, its not your place to tell them that that is unacceptable."
Since that has been a common objection, I'll copy/paste a previous response:
And when the sole provider loses his/her job (let's make sure we include the stay at home dads...), then what happens to the family? Starvation? Government assistance? Imposing upon extended family/friends?
It seems like it should be a personal choice. But it has societal implications, and from that vantage point, choosing to be a single-income family is extraordinarily selfish and irresponsible.
That's the fault of both the parents then, not just the stay at home mom. My parents have always been financially safe. If my father lost his job we'd suffer but we wouldn't be out on the streets and my mom is qualified enough to pick up a job fairly quickly.
How about you try pushing a watermelon out of your genetailia and then raise it, feed it, do the laundry, do the dishes, shop for food, and still make time to have a full time job. If you do that, I'll agree do this.
Once you've actually done it, Miss 13 year old, then you can try berating me with the "life is hard as a woman" card.
Actually, my mom is a stay at home mother, she's always stressed, and I'm basically a second mother to my brother because she's depressed. You don't know my life, but you have no right to play the "Women have it easy card" Because you're not a woman so I have more room for my opinion than you do.
I can understand it when the kids are still toddlers. I don't understand it when the kids are in school full time though. I suppose if the couple are happy with that, it's fine but I will never get it. One of my coworkers works two jobs while his wife stays at home with their kids. At first I thought they were little kids but they aren't. Two are college aged and the other two are in High School. I can't understand why he works two jobs and she doesn't work when their kids are older. From the sounds of it, he isn't happy with the arrangement either. He tells us all the time that it irritates him to go home and find the house a mess, no food made and everyone sitting around and doing nothing.
Sounds like the archetypal parasite.
I get that taking care of children isn't always sugar and roses, but the situation you just described is just sickening.
Yeah a lot of us think that. I don't plan to have kids but I always respected my mom for staying home the first three years. After that she went back top work. My sister and I are a year apart so she stayed with us until maybe I was two and a half and then she went back to work.
You sound like a asshole. Children need their mother! if a couple both agree its for the best if the wife stays home to raise the kids then do not bash their choice! being a mother is a full time job!
"being a mother is a full time job!"
For about 5 years. Then it becomes a part-time "on-call" job.
Children need their fathers too. In fact, the single biggest indicator for negative outcomes in a persons life is fatherlessness, for both boys and girls.
However, I don't disagree with your thesis statement: Dude sounds like an asshole.
Who are you to tell other people what is acceptable and whats not? You're jesus? I dont think so. I wouldn't personally want to be a stay home mom, but i dont mind the idea of it either, if my husband would be a millionare lets say.
If you're partner makes a shit ton of money then why not? If you want to raise your kids by yourself the. Why not? Smh
And i got to say, you sound like an arrogant jerk who is probably very cheap with his women and splits checks lol
"... but i dont mind the idea of it either, if my husband would be a millionare lets say..."
Yep, exactly the problem right there. Slothful and exploitative.
Hahahah nope! If im a millionaire my husband is very welcome to dont do anything either
people do this since daycare is so expensive. I think older family should do it instead, since they have more experience with kids, and people wouldn't act mean towards them, since it's more taboo. kids get more expensive as time goes on, so I wouldn't want to stop working.
I've known people who had thousands in debt, all because they had 1 or 2 kids. and that was after they budgeted everything!!! they used daycare... but I've known a few more people who didn't, and they still had barely any money at the end of the month, and had to make rent/mortgage payments with their credit cards.
They should get higher paying jobs and/or start a business for extra revenue. No excuses.
you should read my whole answer.
so... what do you think of my pov @take owner?
Again, they should get higher paying jobs. If they can't afford the cost of living, then they need to do something about it.
If they had ambition and actually were generating better revenue, paying for childcare would not be an issue. If the parents can generate $100 an hour, then they shouldn't be doing minimum wage level tasks.
Sorry, those problems are a result of poor decision making, and going to a single working parent home is compounding the problem. Not only is the stay-at-home parent killing their career, if the other parent loses their job (which is extraordinarily easy to have happen today), then where does that leave the family?
Extraordinarily irresponsible.