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Before you read what I have to share I highly suggest you watch the video below:
So basically, the root of all dating issues, female hypergamy and the reason why birthrates have been dropping drastically in the most recent decades, is mainly because of feminism and female sexual freedom which will lead to the eventual complete destruction of the traditional family unit.
It's all because of biology of women and what attracts them, i dont know if they can adapt or evolve but evolution takes a long time, and patriarchal societies was a way to control female hypergamy and ensure that majority of the contributing male citicens of a society where able to secure a mate and offspring. It allowed most men to gain enough value to attract women who would otherwise all compete for the top few percent. This phenomena disincentivizes the average man to contribute to society and they will not be as productive, and while a certain ammount of women manage to secure a beta man when her value has dropped and she is longing for children, after she failed to secure an alpha in her prime years, a substantial ammount of women never manage to find someone they are satisfied with after they realized far to late that their value had plummeted.
This phenomenon is also increasing mens overall hatred of women, less and less men are willing to treat women like a lady and be gentlemen, and many of them reject the women who are chasing them in their older years out of spite because of past experiences. its very hard to find couples today where there is genuine love.
Divorce rates are at an all time high and its mainly women initiating them, and a good explanation could be that these marriages are between couples who didn't truly love each other, or to be clear: between beta men who these women "settled" for after they realized that they could never get an alpha, so they would rather get the economical benefits women get out of a divorce rather than be with a man she doesn't respect, (for stupid irrational reasons) while the man might not love her either if he is aware that she believes she settled for him despite her not being better than him in reality.
The video really explains how screwed up things are today way better than i could, while i personally have moderate success with women(mostly casual things), i can't help but notice that pretty much all of them are behaving like this, its very noticeable and the better looking they are the more irrational they are cause they know they can get away with it a lot of the time, its absolutely pathetic.
I know females will hate this mytake but i doubt anyone will be able to present a reasonable argument. Anyone is free to share their point of view and if you believe this situation is reversible or if there is someway this could work without going back to patriarchy.
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Honestly with how over populated the world is it's probably better that birth rates drop for a while, but i have to say this take was... disappointing. I don't agree with it for one, and secondly it seemed like you just ripped off a video and then sort of danced around a premade argument and you unfortunately didn't stand up, the argument was weak. It seems like you saw something you agreed with, posted it, and basically said: "I agree." When making a take where you want to sell an argument using sources is fine, but relying on them does not do you justice.
for a while yes, but what makes you think birthrates won't keep dropping, and what would make them increase again? (in a modern western society). I didn't rip off the overall idea from the video, but i came across it and it shared the view i have along with some added ideas and arguments which make perfect sense, and it was all presented in a very condensed package, easy to take in.
English is not my first language so i wanted to explain my view with as little text as possible, if it ended up to long, its likely a lot less people would be keen to read through it.
I didn't expect you or majority of women to agree with this mytake, but it doesn't really matter especially when you dont put out any sort of argument towards the take. Your post was pretty much.. dissappointing, but predictable.
Honestly we're so overpopulated that it would literally take thousands of years for us to be at any threat of the human race dying out. I also don't believe the liberation of women is the issue behind the birth rates dropping. I believe it's a change in society as a whole, there is no longer social pressure to have children and have the classic family life which is completely fine in my books. Again, there's nothing in this take that I agree with period, I think it's honestly misogynistic and illogical and frankly unsupported by any hard evidence. It just seems like someone taking a personal matter and trying to pass it off as fact, and it really just failed to prove anything to me.
As much as you don't like it we're not in an age where feminism is going to go away, no matter how many videos you post or how much you complain about it or argue the population issue, especially considering the earth is so overwhelming that they expect a 2.37 billion increase by 2050.
This sort of comment makes it clear that you are not that mature in your ways of thinking. I never mentioned that "our race dying out" was a threat, that was never the issue. The thirld world gets overpopulated while the progressive world stagnates, and then gets flooded with the thirld world immigrants. The problem is not dying out, the declining birthrates is just one of many problems created due to the feminist/leftist/liberal and politically correct society we live in now. Chaos and lack of resources, women spending way more than men, and thus gets catered too, the result of their decisions, and especially women with influence, like Angela Merkel.
My take is not illogical at all, and there was plenty of sources and evidence presented in the video description.
If it makes me immature to have a difference of opinion than yours I would be quicker to question your line of thinking. But that's just a lack of perspective on your end.
cont.
As for "hard evidence" that depends on what definition you have, but in such a topic as this and the controversy associated with it, its not surprising you won't find peer reviewed studies about the differences of the genders and how it affects behaviour and capability. Ask yourself a question, do you honestly believe a study that found that men where inherently more intelligent than women would be published in a society like ours? or would it be kept hidden because of the controversy? its pretty obvious. And while traditional feminist values might not go away completely, and complete patriarchy seems unlikely, there is no room for modern feminism in todays western world, i think eventually as resources get more scarce, and other issues get more importance than gender equality. Eventually i think the notion that all people have equal value, and that the genders are equal will dissipate.
Lmao.
Okie dokie. I just lost respect and all seriousness I could have taken in you with that last response.
Have a good night my friend.
no, your way of reasoning and reading comprehension makes you look immature, I dont lack perspective, you are simply unable to take any criticism.
I dont care about your respect, i never had any respect for you just so you are aware. The main reason im having this conversation is for anyone else that might be lurking and reading, they will notice the lack of argument from your side.
I expected you to react like this, good riddance.
Much here is true, some half truth but the real problem is you have ignored the fundamental driving force behind all of this social change. It is not just that people decided to live differently. It is technology and the economic consequences of technology.
Why do you think women got political power? For the same reason the common man got political power a hundred years before, because he had economic power which could not be ignored or repressed. Technology gave this to both, it will give it to the Arabs and everyone else as well as long as technology continues to economically empower the ordinary person.
Radical Islam is a reaction to the feeling of traditional power structures eroding, not a surge of vital force. It's people frantically trying to stop the tide. As long as it's more effective to pay people to work than to force them to work economics will shift power to the worker, man or woman.
From the perspective of a male society is indeed becoming feminized but from an objective perspective political power is merely finding a balance with economic power.
Yeah i agree with this, while the common women gained power and rights it mainly because men in power allowed this to happen, but with the economical factors in consideration it was probably the only logical way to proceed in a modern society. But i think this type of society won't be sustainable in the long run, i think political correctness is simply trying to hide some harsh truths about gender and gender roles. I strongly believe gender and their roles are partly biological and not entirely based on social conditioning, and the biggest point of proof is the biological differences in the brain that men and women have, its wired differently, different size, gray vs white matter etc, this must have an effect in how we think, even though outliers to the norm always exist.
At the risk of being labeled a civilization destroying feminazi, i don't think (in your words) that you presented a reasonable argument. However, since there is such a large amount of this misogynistic tripe on GAG lately, I have come to realize that presenting any refutation is like arguing with people who believe that the earth is flat.
Ignorance is bliss when you have someone to blame.
one could wonder why you even bothered to reply when you didn't bring any sort of argument to the table, you have to realize that even if the person you are arguing with could be someone who doesn't listen to others point of view, if a third party is reading this your stance will look weak and groundless in comparison to the view you are going against.
But i predicted this kind of response from women, you take offence and have to get that frustration out of you but fail to add anything to the discussion.
i have been frustrated with these kinds of posts for a while already. You are correct in assuming that i answered only to blow off steam.
But you are wrong if you think that there is any "discussion" to be had. Like I said, it's like arguing with the flat earth society.
Or a brick wall.
No, there is obviously plenty of discussion to be had about this topic, its just not something that suits you, probably because you know deep down that you dont have any valid counterargument to support you, which adds to your frustration. You dont have to participate you know, live in ignorance as you mentioned.