Your first sentence ended and we knew this whole take was full of shit. Feminist are nazi men haters. If I hold the door for you it is because I am being a gentleman, not because I think you can't open a door. As soon as I hear the word feminist, I shut off the listening and move on to someone worth listening to.
Feminists don't even agree on what feminism is and there is no patriarchy.
Whatever you learned in that goofy behavior class will go right out the window once you leave school and get a job. Even so, one semester taught by a leftist ideologue does not make you - or HIM or HER (there are only two genders) for that matter - an expert.
Also is not about women having or not hair. Also is not about women take pictures to magazines naked or not. For example recent case of Emma Watson, she was attacked because she show part of her boobs. And so what? It's actually a nice picture, sexy or not, she had a choice and that is what feminism should be about. I also saw some feminist criticising another ones because they shave. And so what? They want to shave let them shave.
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I couldn't agree more, fantastic mytake. 1.) Indeed so, but there are bunch of ignorant people here, who don't know the difference between Feminism and Feminazism.
2.) Exactly, patriarchy is one of the worst concepts ever, it has ruined my life.
3.) That's also true, though, "masculinity" and "femininity" are both just social constructs.
I really love how you want to destroy men's sense of pride by beating them over the head with this social fat in how boys should be girls and girls should be boys Bill shit. Please! It really makes me sick when the whole world has to bend over backwards to the 5% because they were born with cock and don't want to hurt their poor feelings.
I think there has been a misunderstanding. That is not at all what I am trying to do. Is it possible to change the title to "What Feminism Means to Me"?
What you just demonstrated with this MyTake is exactly why people hate feminism today. What a huge load of rubbish.
The level of respect for feminism today is at its lowest point in decades and that trend will only continue as feminist ideology deviates further and further from it's origins with the kind of bullshit you've treated us to here. Nice job.
The only thing that will make me not hate feminism is if you take back Christina Hoff Sommers and Erin Piezzy and throw out Andrea Dworkin, Big Red and most importantly and Anita Sarkasian. The last three are the face of feminism weather you like it or not. We Muslims don not let ourselves be represented by OBL, Taliban or Daesh. Why do you allow your movement to not just have extremists but let the extremists be the face of feminism?
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Seems a lot of people are going to dislike what I have to say. Hah, might as well get on with it.
It seems so many people are buying into the negative propaganda regarding feminists, ex. "all men are rapists and we must end them".
It's always the loud mouths that get the most attention. I knew a "feminist" who was offended by Mulan. I just want equal pay and some shred of respect. :|
If all feminists aren't man haters, why don't they disavow the ones who are? Why do they are the queens of double standards? Engage in that ideology is just an excuse for people keep being toxic in a self-righteous way.
Feminists are not even capable of practice what they preach, they talk against hate but practice hate, they defend equality but want privileges, they demand respect but disrespect people, they condemn sexism but they are sexist.
You should do more research. You read a bit and called it the real deal.
Don't force men into women education. Men have their own way of doing things and women should not interfere because women can not understand men just like men don't get women.
Women's Lib WAS needed back in the day , however , deliberately & by design , feminism has been hijacked by the well funded and supported man hating extremists , that are very much the leadership of this Cultural Marxist sub-branch movement , hence they primarily target males of European extraction. Why are there no feminists calling out the venom spewing from their leaders mouths / pens? The silence is deafening. Sexism affects men too , know this too damn well as a single dad !!
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I have no idea what you're trying to say. You wish for people to know about some 70s study? what
@UnaKaizen She has a point. The take is in defense of a broad topic while only focusing on a sliver of the topic. She made 3 claims and then pretty much talked about something that has very little to do with them. I bet she has lots in her head, but it wasn't described.
Gender roles are NOT a social construct. First of all, men and women have different brain structures supporting different behaviors, and brain scans on infants have shown us that these differences exist way before socialization comes into play. We have also done research on primates, showing us that most gender roles have their roots in our biology.
Bullshit! Have you ever heard of concepts such as the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, and "Darwinism"? This is why real men can't wimp out!" "Toxic masculinity" wins wars, establishes an honest moral code, and creates prosperity. Think about it!
@UnaKaizen FYI, "toxic masculinity" protects civilized society from the barbarians at the gate! It takes a good barbarian to defeat an evil barbarian! That's a concept you ladies will never understand. Unless, of course, you are gang raped by a gang of evil barbarians. The pages of history are full of examples...
barbarians to get rid of barbarians. you're trying to make a deal with the devil and expecting peace.
wars are the main place people get gang raped. and you can't bring it to justice bc its 'military', then the guys come back and commit suicide bc they raped tortured and killed a 14 year old virgin from the village to dal with their 'feelings' that they are too manly to acknowledge. or he doesn't and instead kills his wife in his sleep or goes out and rapes bc it was socially sanctioned in the army. so now you have a rapist or a dead barbarian on your hands.
@UnaKaizen Agreed! That's the way of the world. Show me a place where people actually love each-other and I'll move there tomorrow? Until then - bring on "toxic masculinity" to defend me...
@UnaKaizen As long as evil men resort to violence, we will always need good men to counter that violence. Just saying that you're a peace-nick will not exempt you from the evils of this world. God gave us an imperfect living space. As of now, "toxic masculinity" has kept the peace as well as can be reasonably expected.
@UnaKaizen Feminism isn't what it's suppose to be. The ladies marching for voting rights are the real feminists, now a days you have half naked women in the street and wearing replicates of vaginas on their bodies. Tell me why they do this fucking shit. It's bonkers.
1000% agree with you @Shcnazzberry I feel ashamed to see those "feminists" being half naked on the street marching and yelling "my pussy my choice" "free my nipples". Totally degrading women... smh...
@FantasticDay I don’t agree with that version of feminism. It is a shame that some women act that way. It’s a delicate subject with so much history that is controversial. Feminism is difficult to define. There are various kinds of feminism. So when someone says they are a feminist it is easy for people who aren’t to assume they are just like the ones that irritate others and are actually making things worse.
Try to remember that not all feminists are the same.
Yes @psychoticallyawkard. I agree. Back to the days, feminists march for women right like voting and working. I cannot agree how some feminists now are doing things that degrade women. It would be totally okay if they are actually marching for nudism... haha just not feminism. True that every feminist is different. I have 100% respect to them when they respect themselves. :D I support equal human right and females definitely deserve the same rights as any other genders. :)
Stop reading at the word "patriarchy". That's all I really need to know about feminism, or all ANYONE needs to know about feminism. The blame a non-existent straw man for all of their problems, and that straw man is all men conveniently wrapped up in this buzzword you call "patriarchy". Feminism is cancer.
I entirely agree. However, I would argue that there is also such a thing as toxic feminity, which would be behavior forced upon women by the patriarchal paradigm and essentially equivalent and on par with toxic masculinity. What we should be talking about is toxic gender expectations.
Patriarchy is masculine. Right? That means feminism is feminine. So why not a compromise? Why not a compromise of "the two"? Why totally eliminate masculinity for the sake of feminism? Patriarchy may have had some bad points but so does modern day feminism. Combine the two and eliminate the bullshit. Respect masculinity if you want respect for femininity.
i feel like being because topics on equality have recently been focused of the female side of thing a lost of people don't understand feminism is about BOTH genders.
Feminism has NEVER been about both genders. It's already in the name. It was a manipulative trick to get the male population to support the movement.
All you have to do is read what actual, powerful and influental feminists had to say. None of them care about men at all. Not now, not in the 60s, not during the Suffragettes
@FakeName123 yes but now a lot of people are saying "oh it's about both men and women coming together as equals" blah blah blah. and i get that it's a good thing but it gets too extreme sometimes
How's does claiming that something is something it is not make it any different? Lying about what something is makes it so? Feminism is not about how men and their influence oppress men and how men are to blame for everything because someone says so?
That's what I was trying to get across. Also not all feminists are the same. It's a shame that some feminists say things and act in ways that give it a bad name.
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Your first sentence ended and we knew this whole take was full of shit. Feminist are nazi men haters. If I hold the door for you it is because I am being a gentleman, not because I think you can't open a door. As soon as I hear the word feminist, I shut off the listening and move on to someone worth listening to.
Feminists don't even agree on what feminism is and there is no patriarchy.
Whatever you learned in that goofy behavior class will go right out the window once you leave school and get a job. Even so, one semester taught by a leftist ideologue does not make you - or HIM or HER (there are only two genders) for that matter - an expert.
Also is not about women having or not hair. Also is not about women take pictures to magazines naked or not. For example recent case of Emma Watson, she was attacked because she show part of her boobs. And so what? It's actually a nice picture, sexy or not, she had a choice and that is what feminism should be about. I also saw some feminist criticising another ones because they shave. And so what? They want to shave let them shave.
I couldn't agree more, fantastic mytake.
1.) Indeed so, but there are bunch of ignorant people here, who don't know the difference between Feminism and Feminazism.
2.) Exactly, patriarchy is one of the worst concepts ever, it has ruined my life.
3.) That's also true, though, "masculinity" and "femininity" are both just social constructs.
Exactly! Thanks for the support.
You're welcome :)
I really love how you want to destroy men's sense of pride by beating them over the head with this social fat in how boys should be girls and girls should be boys Bill shit. Please! It really makes me sick when the whole world has to bend over backwards to the 5% because they were born with cock and don't want to hurt their poor feelings.
I think there has been a misunderstanding. That is not at all what I am trying to do. Is it possible to change the title to "What Feminism Means to Me"?
What you just demonstrated with this MyTake is exactly why people hate feminism today. What a huge load of rubbish.
The level of respect for feminism today is at its lowest point in decades and that trend will only continue as feminist ideology deviates further and further from it's origins with the kind of bullshit you've treated us to here. Nice job.
The only thing that will make me not hate feminism is if you take back Christina Hoff Sommers and Erin Piezzy and throw out Andrea Dworkin, Big Red and most importantly and Anita Sarkasian.
The last three are the face of feminism weather you like it or not.
We Muslims don not let ourselves be represented by OBL, Taliban or Daesh.
Why do you allow your movement to not just have extremists but let the extremists be the face of feminism?
Seems a lot of people are going to dislike what I have to say. Hah, might as well get on with it.
It seems so many people are buying into the negative propaganda regarding feminists, ex. "all men are rapists and we must end them".
Nice MyTake, I agree wholeheartedly.
Thank you. It's a shame that some of the things some feminists say and do just make things worse and bring about so much hate.
It's always the loud mouths that get the most attention. I knew a "feminist" who was offended by Mulan. I just want equal pay and some shred of respect. :|
If all feminists aren't man haters, why don't they disavow the ones who are? Why do they are the queens of double standards? Engage in that ideology is just an excuse for people keep being toxic in a self-righteous way.
Feminists are not even capable of practice what they preach, they talk against hate but practice hate, they defend equality but want privileges, they demand respect but disrespect people, they condemn sexism but they are sexist.
You should do more research. You read a bit and called it the real deal.
Don't force men into women education. Men have their own way of doing things and women should not interfere because women can not understand men just like men don't get women.
''Gender is a social construction''
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Women's Lib WAS needed back in the day , however , deliberately & by design , feminism has been hijacked by the well funded and supported man hating extremists , that are very much the leadership of this Cultural Marxist sub-branch movement , hence they primarily target males of European extraction. Why are there no feminists calling out the venom spewing from their leaders mouths / pens? The silence is deafening. Sexism affects men too , know this too damn well as a single dad !!
I have no idea what you're trying to say. You wish for people to know about some 70s study? what
try thinking.
@UnaKaizen She has a point. The take is in defense of a broad topic while only focusing on a sliver of the topic. She made 3 claims and then pretty much talked about something that has very little to do with them. I bet she has lots in her head, but it wasn't described.
Gender roles are NOT a social construct. First of all, men and women have different brain structures supporting different behaviors, and brain scans on infants have shown us that these differences exist way before socialization comes into play. We have also done research on primates, showing us that most gender roles have their roots in our biology.
Bullshit! Have you ever heard of concepts such as the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest, and "Darwinism"? This is why real men can't wimp out!" "Toxic masculinity" wins wars, establishes an honest moral code, and creates prosperity. Think about it!
we are not in the jungle we love in civilized societies. mentally stabler people dont want nor agree war is an inevitability.
honest moral code- do you know what happens in wars?
@UnaKaizen FYI, "toxic masculinity" protects civilized society from the barbarians at the gate! It takes a good barbarian to defeat an evil barbarian! That's a concept you ladies will never understand. Unless, of course, you are gang raped by a gang of evil barbarians. The pages of history are full of examples...
barbarians to get rid of barbarians. you're trying to make a deal with the devil and expecting peace.
wars are the main place people get gang raped. and you can't bring it to justice bc its 'military', then the guys come back and commit suicide bc they raped tortured and killed a 14 year old virgin from the village to dal with their 'feelings' that they are too manly to acknowledge. or he doesn't and instead kills his wife in his sleep or goes out and rapes bc it was socially sanctioned in the army. so now you have a rapist or a dead barbarian on your hands.
@UnaKaizen Agreed! That's the way of the world. Show me a place where people actually love each-other and I'll move there tomorrow? Until then - bring on "toxic masculinity" to defend me...
there will never be a place without conflict. but as long as violence is used as the default solution, you won't have sanity, or progress.
@UnaKaizen As long as evil men resort to violence, we will always need good men to counter that violence. Just saying that you're a peace-nick will not exempt you from the evils of this world. God gave us an imperfect living space. As of now, "toxic masculinity" has kept the peace as well as can be reasonably expected.
Wow, this is a disgrace. I'm a proud patriot. #feminismsucks
what is the disgrace exactly?
@UnaKaizen What isn't? The whole thing is convoluted.
@UnaKaizen Feminism isn't what it's suppose to be. The ladies marching for voting rights are the real feminists, now a days you have half naked women in the street and wearing replicates of vaginas on their bodies. Tell me why they do this fucking shit. It's bonkers.
1000% agree with you @Shcnazzberry
I feel ashamed to see those "feminists" being half naked on the street marching and yelling "my pussy my choice" "free my nipples". Totally degrading women... smh...
@FantasticDay agreed with you ❤️❤️❤️
@FantasticDay I don’t agree with that version of feminism. It is a shame that some women act that way. It’s a delicate subject with so much history that is controversial. Feminism is difficult to define. There are various kinds of feminism. So when someone says they are a feminist it is easy for people who aren’t to assume they are just like the ones that irritate others and are actually making things worse.
Try to remember that not all feminists are the same.
Yes @psychoticallyawkard. I agree. Back to the days, feminists march for women right like voting and working. I cannot agree how some feminists now are doing things that degrade women. It would be totally okay if they are actually marching for nudism... haha just not feminism. True that every feminist is different. I have 100% respect to them when they respect themselves. :D I support equal human right and females definitely deserve the same rights as any other genders. :)
Stop reading at the word "patriarchy". That's all I really need to know about feminism, or all ANYONE needs to know about feminism. The blame a non-existent straw man for all of their problems, and that straw man is all men conveniently wrapped up in this buzzword you call "patriarchy". Feminism is cancer.
I entirely agree. However, I would argue that there is also such a thing as toxic feminity, which would be behavior forced upon women by the patriarchal paradigm and essentially equivalent and on par with toxic masculinity. What we should be talking about is toxic gender expectations.
I agree. she left that out. but probably bc there's more anger from men about toxic masculinity. .. or she forgot ;p
Patriarchy is masculine. Right? That means feminism is feminine. So why not a compromise? Why not a compromise of "the two"? Why totally eliminate masculinity for the sake of feminism? Patriarchy may have had some bad points but so does modern day feminism. Combine the two and eliminate the bullshit. Respect masculinity if you want respect for femininity.
i feel like being because topics on equality have recently been focused of the female side of thing a lost of people don't understand feminism is about BOTH genders.
Feminism has NEVER been about both genders. It's already in the name. It was a manipulative trick to get the male population to support the movement.
All you have to do is read what actual, powerful and influental feminists had to say. None of them care about men at all. Not now, not in the 60s, not during the Suffragettes
@FakeName123 yes but now a lot of people are saying "oh it's about both men and women coming together as equals" blah blah blah. and i get that it's a good thing but it gets too extreme sometimes
How's does claiming that something is something it is not make it any different? Lying about what something is makes it so? Feminism is not about how men and their influence oppress men and how men are to blame for everything because someone says so?
That's what I was trying to get across. Also not all feminists are the same. It's a shame that some feminists say things and act in ways that give it a bad name.
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