People who make America Great !!!🙏 (Part 1)

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Firefighters

These first responders literally run into burning buildings to save lives, they put out forest fires and as Paramedics.

Garbage men

These unsung heroes take your trash away, without them the streets would be a garbage dump (like San Francisco). So thank your garbage men.

Police

These guys swear to protect and serve, they are often the thin blue line between us and the worst scum. They also do much other good work in their community.

Sewage Worker

These guys are the ones who literally deal with all your shit. They keep our country's sewage infrastructure maintained so our city and town streets aren't full of Feces ( like San Francisco). Think of these guys the next time your flushing your tampons or diapers down the crapper( stop doing that, you know who you are).

US Military Personnel

These brave men and women keep our country safe as well as our many allies safe. The Pax-America has keep the world safe for decades. They also provide healthcare, basic infrastructure construction, clean water projects, food aid, peacekeeping, training to foreign governments security forces, disaster relief, search and rescue to millions of non-Americans. As a veteran all I can say to these upstanding Americans is thank you for your service.

Airline workers

People that work for Airlines have to put up with a lot of shit but without them we would get nowhere. Increasingly Passengers have been acting like entitled tools, it's common to see on the news a self important passenger get a reality check for their bad abusive behaviour, which normally I'd applaud but it holds the flight up sometimes for hours. Flying is easy, just sit down, shut up, be considerate to other passengers, don't be abusive to flight staff and be patient no matter what until you arrive at your destination. If you can't act right on an airplane expect the consequences.

Farmers and farm laborers

This is who produces our food, farm work ain't easy even with agricultural machinery, remember that when your tucking into a burger or a bucket of strawberries. Food security makes our country great and a nations food security is important.

Boarder Patrol agents

Under funded and undermanned these officers work tirelessly to secure our boarder from criminals and gangsters trying to cross it illegally.

Legal Gun Owners

These are the people willing to protect their life and property from any violent thugs who try to take them as well as the lives if their families as is their 2nd amendment right.

Conservative families

Conservative families are the bedrock of what this nation is built on. They have a higher birth rate and produce more upstanding citizens just like themselves which greatly benefits this country.

Christians

Christianity though facing strong Christian-phobia not seen since the Roman emperor Nero has been the backbone of this nation since the beginning and is still going strong, all that's good and vest about America and American values comes from Christianity.

[Screenwriter]

Gun owners, the NRA, etc., have nothing to do with women obtraining equal employment and educational and family planning rights. All of that has to do with women protesting repression through the women's rights movements and legislation being pushed through because of these women. In the name of Christianity, Huguenots, Jews, women, Native Americans, Muslims were persecuted, burned at stakes for witchcraft, killed when they wouldn't convert. There is good and bad in all religions. This is a SECULAR nation that encompasses all faiths. All faiths propose fairness, love and tolerance. American values come from every group that has landed on these shores, as well as native Americans and other multitheistic and animistic groups. All political leanings contribute to America and raise upstanding citizens. It has nothing to do with conservatism.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Women's liberation didn't come from women protesting but from advances in medical science ie birth control and advances technology that reduced the need for intensive manual labor because up until that point in history women were unable to support themselves without a husband or father.
1. Equal employment. Most jobs historically were physical manual labor jobs, women being physically weaker than men were unable to do as much as men so we're paid less for their work. Women historically have always worked usually in jobs that paid less because they were worth less in the free market.
2. Educational rights. Up until very recently children left school at a young age and unless you were wealthy like most early feminists you didn't receive any education at all.
3. Family planning rights. This didn't come into effect until the 60s with birth control pills, even abortions up until very recently were dangerous like most surgical procedures. Frankly in the old days if a woman gave into her hetrosexual biological nature and had intercourse she got pregnant and was them dependant on a man to take care of her and the child barring she didn't die in child birth.
I dont think there was ever any witches it was just a device brought over from Europe used in remote towns and villages by preachers and by others looking to settle scores or make themselves seem important. Like if you were convicted of witchcraft the local church confiscated your land.
The country is secular but Christians have been the majority in this country for a long time and really made the country the diverse tolerant place it is today. What's more multitheistic than Christianity.

[BlacklightShade]

Women fought for those woman's rights you mentioned.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@BlacklightShade those tights were only possible thanks to advancement in technology and medical science. It worked out well for men, women have to go out and earn their own bread rather than depending on the labor of men to keep them and now thanks to contraception we can have casual sex without having to commit ourselves to marraige and there's a diminished risk of an unwanted pregnancy.

[SarahsSummer]

You lost me after legal gun owners. Unlike the last 2 groups that “make America great” the first groups are comprised of all types. Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc and all political affiliations THAT is what makes America great. Your segregationalist mentality of only praising Christians and conservatives, misses the boat on what actually makes America great.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

What's more conservative than Judasism and islam and Christianity is closely tied to Judaism as Islam is to both, abrahamic religions you know.

[SarahsSummer]

Huh? what information is your run on sentence attempting to relay?

[Blitzkrieg_88]

The Abrahamic religions, also referred to collectively as Abrahamism, are a group of Semitic-originated religious communities of faith that claim descent from the Judaism of the ancient Israelites and the worship of the God of Abraham. The Abrahamic religions are monotheistic, with the term deriving from the patriarch Abraham (a major biblical figure from the Old Testament, who is recognized by Jews, Christians, Muslims.

[SarahsSummer]

Lol.
there are commonalities, but there are essential differences between the Abrahamic traditions, both historical and theological. Although Judaism birthed both Christianity and Islam, the three monotheistic faiths went their separate ways. The three faiths understand the role of Abraham in differing ways, and the relationships between Judaism and Christianity and between Judaism and Islam are uneven Also, the three traditions are demographically unbalanced and ideologically DIVERSE. .
My problem with your list of great Americans after gun owners is they lack the DIVERSITY of the former. At the end of the day, conservatives and Christians don’t make America great, it’s great diversity makes it great.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Most Muslims and Jews are conservatives, most Christians are African American and hispanic, is that not diverse enough?

[SarahsSummer]

not the way you describe them When I see the word conservative, I think of a political ideology, you have not included liberals, moderates or independents in your descriptions.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Conservatives are moderates, what could be more moderate than being a conservative. Most Muslims and Hispanics have traditional family values.

[SarahsSummer]

Oh my!
I’m sorry but I’m done here. You’re just need to go find a clue. Here’s a hint. Moderates tend be conservative-to-moderate on fiscal issues and moderate-to-liberal on social issues. Go home and practice understanding D-I-V-E-R-S-I-T-Y.

[genuinlysensitive]

Clearly she is not referring to diversity of opinion.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Christians in America consist of Adventist, Anglicans, Baptists, Calvinists, Lutherans, Methodists evangelicals, Quakers, Amish, jevohovah witnesses, 7 day Adventists, Catholics, orthodox Christians, Armenian Christians, Oriental Orthodox Christians, Assyrian Christians, even Mormons if you consider them Christian. Christians are both religiously diverse and racially diverse. Its diversity that is Christianity's strength.

[RolandCuthbert]

Yeah none of that makes any sense. "Diversity" is Christianity greatest strength? Dude, there interpretations of Christianity than are wildly contradictory and opposite of one another.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@RolandCuthbert would you post a similar meme about Muhammad? Because if not your islamaphobic and racist.

[loveslongnails]

I'm with Sarah for the most part on this one. What you TOTALLY fail to realize while making your assessments of "conservative moderates", etc, is that the vast majority of the WORLD believes in what's considered "traditional family values" regardless of religion. There's a very, very small percentage of people outside that group. So that part of your premise fails me.

[genuinlysensitive]

@blitzkrieg_88 You are not allowed to draw Mohammed in Islam. You are also not allowed to say anything good about Christianity, otherwise the PC Nazis will call you a Nazi. They still have no problem with the domestic terrorists Brown-shirts, I mean Antifa. I always get those two confused!

[RolandCuthbert]

@blitzkrieg_88 I guess I don't understand this central tenement of racism. The one of "all or nothing". And it is weird how/when you apply it. It is only when you need it to make your mythology appear to be factual.

Here I am, my background is Christian. And I cite actual historical fact and current beliefs of "Christians", who actually believe they can murder people in God's name. Somehow, I have insulted all Christians by citing the beliefs of a few. Then on the other hand, you come to talk about Muslims with no regard of what the majority believe, to cite ISIS or other Muslim extremists as the example of what all Muslims believe.

Its such a weird belief system, because somehow in racism Christianity is the "White" religion. As though God actually has "White" and "Black" seating in Heaven. As though in Heaven, we will actually have the differences of skin color and beliefs and behaviors and all of the nutty weirdness that racism comes with.

It is amazing every single time I see you guys post. It is amazing because you have no self awareness at all. It is just rants and nonsense and contradictions and hypocrisy rolled up into a big ball of insanity.

No one stops for a minute and says. . ."wow. . . what I just said was actually insane."

[RolandCuthbert]

@genuinlysensitive "You are not allowed to draw Mohammed in Islam. You are also not allowed to say anything good about Christianity, otherwise the PC Nazis will call you a Nazi. They still have no problem with the domestic terrorists Brown-shirts, I mean Antifa. I always get those two confused!"

If you can't say any thing bad about Muslims, how can you ban them from coming into your country? It is like you guys turn off your brain to the nonsense spill out unfiltered.

Do we have a Christian ban? Have talked about instilling one? Have we talked about Christianity invading a country?

[genuinlysensitive]

What are you talking about? Christian ban?

[talloak]

I do agree with much of what you write but you really are exaggerating when it comes to the treatment of Christians. Seriously, Nero? How many have been sacrificed lately? How many Christians have been banned from entering the country along with the Muslim ban? How many white Christians have been slaughtered in churches the way that black Christians and Jews and Muslims have been in places of worship? Every one of them by conservatives, incidentally? What people have been killed in America because they are Trump supporters? Yet Trump supporters have killed others? I’ve heard others claim this but I’ve yet to hear evidence to support it. The evidence says the opposite.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

You say I'm exaggerating when it comes to the treatment of Christians yet a knowledge Christians being attacked in churches.
Being a conservative or a Christian is not a race thing. There is no Muslim ban christians from middle eastern countries such as Syria are banned too.
The largest mass shooting in us history was against white conservative Trump supporters. Trump's daughter is a Jew.

[talloak]

Let's not pretend it's not a Muslim ban since Trump and his supporters said that many times before they realized it was unconstitutional. And the biggest shooting was not in a church but in Las Vegas against the general public. The shooter was Stephen Paddock who's biggest fear was that the government would start confiscating guns. That is, he was a conservative. Can you list and killings targeting Christians? And which were done by the government as in Nero's time? You have yet to back up any of your claims. I have.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

It's not a Muslim ban, many Muslims immigrate the United States every year. It was an extension of Obama's "Muslim ban" of immigration as you call it, where Islamic extremism is a problem. There are many different religions in Islamic countries though they are persecuted there these people still can't cone to the US if they live in places like Syria.
How about the las Vegas shooting or the Charleston church shooting? the lions being replaced with assault weapons.

[talloak]

Both shooters were conservatives.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

All the victims were conservatives

[John_Doesnt]

Christians are ruining America. Always have been.

[John_Doesnt]

Also legal gun owners, especially ones trained by the military, have ruined America multiple times. Lee Harvey Oswald was a legal gun owner and trained by the Marines when he shot and murdered the president.
Charles Joseph Whitman, the "Texas Tower Sniper", who murdered multiple people including pregnant women was a legal gun owner and trained by the Marines.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Typical liberal quoting a slave owner, next will you run the democrats propoganda piece birth of a nation?
Lee Harvey Oswald was a pasty, very few trained snipers could make that shot even if they hadn't a crap Italian rifle. The CIA had Kennedy killed over backing down in the bay of pigs, backing down to kruchev in the Cuban missile crisis and not committing US troops to Vietnam.
Like most mass shooters the blame lies with doctors and drug companies.
You failed to mention all the great men who served in the military Eisenhower for one.
You also fail to mention the ilegal gun owners that are actually ruining America in places like Detroit, los Angeles and Chicago. It was safer to be in Iraq or Afganistan during the height of the war on terror that an 12-30 male in Chicago.

[John_Doesnt]

typical conservative. I bet you've said the founding fathers were great, but once you see they hated Christians you bad mouth them. If you hate the founding fathers then gtfo of America.

[Screenwriter]

I can't recall a case of someone having an illegal weapon in the Las Vegas, DC sniper, school shootings, nightclub shooting in Orlando. All these people, with possibly a few exceptions, were legal gun owners or obtained their parents' legal weapons to perpetrate their shootings.

[John_Doesnt]

@Screenwriter yeah, that's my point. Legally owning a gun is way too easy even for people with a history of violence.

[John_Doesnt]

@MyTakeOwner
You really are demented and delusional: you believe the Kennedy assassination was a job by the CIA. I bet you believe BigFoot caused 9/11 and the Loch Ness Monster caused the stock market to crash in 2004.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

I just admit the truth, the founding fathers were slave owners, you can't have a problem with the confederate flag and not our slave own founding fathers
@Screenwriter failure of of the federal government in most cases, criminal neglect of parents.
In the Las Vegas shooting the victims were mostly conservative,
The dc sniper carried out attacks in a gun free zone with an ilegal weapon.
The Orlando shooting was carried out by a non Christian homosexual man on other homosexual men in a gun free zone and his gun ownership was a failure of the federal government.
Its been investigated multiple times, top marksmen have failed to make the shots and Oswald was a below average shot. Most of the JFJ/LBJ administration didn't think Vietnam would be a winnable war and that the US shouldn't get involved, yet still the US troops went in. Its no coincidence RFK was assassinated 5 years later. The CIA assainated leaders in other countries so why not the US? Also as for your conspiracy theory jibes remember the US government ran chemical, biological and atomic warfare tests on thousands of US citizens from the 30s all the way up to the 80s.

[John_Doesnt]

I'm not gonna negotiate with a conspiracy theorist who thinks Kennedy was killed by the CIA. Just go back to 4Chan, Q and your Roswell conventions.

[Screenwriter]

Actually, people who've had felony convictions can't legally own guns. The point is, the people who have these legal weapons usually have no history of mental illness or any serious convictions of any kind. Like, Timothy McVey, one day they concoct a homemade bomb and blow up the federal building in Oklahoma City or shoot up 500 people at a Las Vegas concert. No history of any kind.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Go back to your cool aid. The government I'm sure always has your best intrests at hand and would never do bad things to Americans.
1. Letting African Americans Die of Syphilis When Treatment Was Available
2. CIA experimenting on citizens Using Drug Experiments to Try to Control Behavior
3. Experimenting With Electroconvulsive Therapy
4. Allowing Known Criminals to Buy Guns operation fast and futious
5. Injecting People With Plutonium
6. Exposing Poor Cancer Patients to Large Doses of Radiation
7. Completing Chemical Experiments With Mustard Gas on Sailors
8. Adding Poison to Alcohol, Killing Over 10,000 Americans
9. Dropping radioactive material on us cities
10. Conducting biological tests in us cities
11. Exposing US soldiers to the after effects of atomic weapons
The list goes on and on...
I'm suprised trump hasn't been assainated for pulling out of Syria.

[John_Doesnt]

And what is your opinion of Big Foot causing 9/11 and how the Loch Ness Monster was at Roswell?

[Screenwriter]

The federal government did not fail in the case of the Las Vegas shooter. He was a longtime multiple gun owner/collector. He had no criminal record and no mental health record. He bought his guns legally. He would not have popped up on ANY radar. What does the Las Vegas victims being "conservative" have to do with anything about the shooting? However, the Orlando shooter was on a watch list and his buying a weapon and possibly being radicalized should have been monitored. The shooter frequented the nightclub and was gay. Two reasons NOT to suspect him of having any antipathy toward the patrons. You site that several of the places where people were shot were "gunfree" zones. What does this have to do with anything? There are no zones in the United States where murdering or shooting people is legal! And yeah, the founding fathers were slave owners, this doesn't mean they weren't geniuses who hustled together a new nation with new freedoms. They tried to get slavery abolished, but the Southern states would not come into the union if it was, so they compromised over slavery. They needed the Southern states. Sometimes genius can't resolve every moral dilemma. But the moral imperative got it amended out of the Constitution down the road. What do doctors and drug companies have to do with mass shooters? I'm not aware of any cases where mass shooters were high or off their meds. The opposite appears to be true: none of the shooters ever got any help for their issues and then went on killing sprees to relieve their anger and resentments.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@John_Doesnt it's all well documented, I know he's a liar but Clinton did biblically aknoledge and appologists for it.
en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter the Law Vegas shooter like most mass shooters was on anti-depressants and his guns weren't legal running armor piercing ammunition, he had. Anyway an atheist who shoots up a country music festival full of white Christian conservatives.
If your going to committ a mass shooting you do it in a gun free zone for obvious reasons, I mean mass murders and criminals don't care what's ilegal.
The southern states were in the union after the revolution, your missing 100 years of history between the American revolution and civil war. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness", obviously in their minds afŕicans, African Americans, native Americans and Mexicans weren't created equal or deserving equal rights. Even slaves built the white house.
"I'm not aware of any cases where mass shooters were high or off their meds" look up nearly every mass shooter was on some form of anti-depressant, you will struggle to find one who wasn't on an ssri.

[Screenwriter]

OK illegal bullets in legal guns. That is semantics. WIth his high powered rifles he still couldve shot people. Maybe not killed as many... My point WAS exactly that mass shooters aren't cognizant of gunfree zones and could care less if they were in one. Their point is to kill people for whatever gripe they have against the world.
Paddock's brother said Paddock had no religious or atheistic affliliation. Paddock did not use antidepressants, he used Valium, which is a central nervous system depressant. Coupled with alcohol, he might've been loopy, but not clinically depressed.
There was speculation that he was an atheist and speculation that he targeted country music fans who are generally conservative and Christian. We don't know what the makeup of the crowd was politically or religiously. We know that it was predominantly white. I think he chose the festival because it was out in the open and people were easy to pick off. Easy targets.

I was speaking of the founding fathers and why slavery was not written out of the constitution. Southern states would not have joined the new nation without being entered as slave states. So the northern states conceded. I was not discussing ANYthing about the civil war, but about why slavery abolition wasn't instituted in the new nation. Jefferson, a slave owner himself, was always conflicted about slavery. Washington ordered his slaves freed after his death. Since it wasn't abolished, they exploited the legality. Most knew it was morally repugnent, but it was economically expedient. It's called capitalism. The worst form of it. Is it hypocritical that these men criticized Christianity for its flaws and not themselves for being slavers. Yes. But what they said about Christianity is as true as them being deeply wrong for continuing as slavers.
In their minds Aŕricans, African Americans, native Americans and Mexicans weren't equal or deserving equal rights.

[John_Doesnt]

you're a troll and a psycho

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter he could have killed more with a U-haul lorry like that guy in Nice who killed 86. He doesn't appear to have been a very good shot to have killed so few despite his careful planning.
Antidepressants and valium are both in the family of pharmaceutical Psychoactive drugs which are linked to most mass shootings, it's semantics to argue the difference. Paddock' s brother who was arrested for child porn and released after giving a statement on his brother stated that his brother was an atheist. His brother said he wasn't religious and his girlfriend said he was an atheist. Your still thinking in terms of North vs South 100 years after the civil war but it was individual States that outlawed slavery.
Slavery isn't capitalism, it's more like serfdom or feudalism Or an oligarchy much like Mexico and southern America, capitalism is why the US was a success story and southern and central American countries were not despite having similar revolutions around the same time and being wealthy liberally and agriculturally.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Sorry you don't have any more quotes from racists?

[genuinlysensitive]

My personal fav:

[Screenwriter]

@genuinlysensitive We all know those founding fathers quotes weren't fake. The takes about religion were why the nation was secular and they had skepticism or criticism about the role of religion in government. It's why the church state separation was instituted in our nation...

[John_Doesnt]

@genuinlysensitive that's nice, except I can easily back up the quotes I gave.
www.worldfuturefund.org/.../Jefferson.htm

[John_Doesnt]

@myTake owner, again I'm not gonna engage you because you're a conspiracy nut who believes the Kennedy assassination was carried out by the CIA. You are crazy and I don't try to reason with crazy people.

[Screenwriter]

Acid and marijuana are psychoactive drugs! They act on the brain and body in completely oppostie fashions. Acid is usually laced with speed and leads to hallucinations: it acts as a stimulant, as an antidepressant would which stimulates dopamine production in those lacking. Marijuana is a depressant, as valium and alcohol would be. He likely missed so many people because of the combined effects of valium and alcohol. You make conflicting statements about what his brother said, and what I've read is he said his brother was not religiously affiliated. The woman friend said he was atheist. Since the guy is DEAD we do not know WHAT he considered himself to be. It can't be confirmed one way or the other. We also do not know WHY he targeted the festival. It is ALL conjecture. He is an unknown factor, except he appeared to have alcohol and depression issues as per his woman friend. Valium was found in his blood. No antidepressants. He had no internet profile. We don't know his political leanings or opinion. It is ALL guesswork. He was a gambler and he loved guns. He frequented Las Vegas, he was a millionaire, he had money problems. It is an unsolvable puzzle.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

You won't engage because your arguments are weak as is your knowledge.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter yet what most mass shooters have in common at least in the US is thst they are on some form of pharmaceutical psychotropic drug prescribed by a medical proffessional, now they are either being prescribed too much or the pills are bad.
https://youtu.be/dwJ1TJSa7Ao

[John_Doesnt]

my knowledge is weak? Says the guy who believes in conspiracies by Info Wars.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

You mean conspiracies acknowledges by the federal government.

[Screenwriter]

Again, you're talking about antidepressants. Valium is not an antidepressant and doesn't cause psychotic behavior. This kind of psychotic break has long been associated with antidepressants and many people on Prozac committed suicide when they had no suicidal ideation whatsoever. "Benzodiazepines can slow thinking or interfere with judgment. It is also dangerous to combine them with alcohol or certain other medications." Valium is a benzo. If he was abusing benzos with alcohol, it could affect judgment. It would not cause temporary psychosis.

[John_Doesnt]

@Screenwriter the myTake owner is just a psycho, don't address him. He thinks the JFK assassination was carried out by the CIA and the government is covering up BigFoot's existence.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter again valium is a pshytropic drug which many mass shooters have been on prior to becoming mass shooters.
Prescription Drugs Associated With Violence

Drug PRR* Usage
Chantix (varenicline) 18 smoking cessation
Prozac (fluoxetine) 10.9 antidepressant
Paxil (paroxetine) 10.3 antidepressant
amphetamines (includes Adderall; Dexedrine) 9.6 ADHD drug
Larium (mefloquine) 9.5 prevents or treats malaria
Strattera (atomoxetine) 9 ADHD drug
Halcion (triazolam) 8.7 sedative
Luvox (fluvoxamine) 8.4 antidepressant
Effexor (venlafaxine) 8.3 antidepressant
Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) 7.9 antidepressant
Singulair (montelukast) 7 anti-inflammatory
Zoloft (sertraline) 6.7 antidepressant
Ambien (zolpidem) 6.7 sedative
Lexapro (escitalopram) 5 antidepressant
Xyrem (sodium oxybate) 4.9 treatment of narcolepsy
Celexa (citalopram 4.3 antidepressant
Abilify (aripiprazole) 4.2 antipsychotic
Oxycontin (oxycodone) 4.1 narcotic, [opioid]
Wellbutrin (bupropion) 3.9 antidepressant
Geodon (ziprasidone) 3.8 antipsychotic; used in bipolar disorder
Ritalin, Concerta (methylphenidate) 3.6 ADHD drug
Remeron (mirtazapine) 3.4 antidepressant
Neurontin (gabapentin) 3.3 anti-seizure
Keppra (levetiracetam) 3.3 anti-seizure
Valium (diazepam) 3.1 sedative
Xanax (alprazolam) 3 sedative
Cymbalta (duloxetine) 2.8 antidepressant
Klonopin (clonazepam) 2.8 anti-seizure; treatment of panic disorder, anxiety disorders
Multiferon (interferon alfa) 2.7 treatment of cancer, hepatitis
Risperdal (risperidone) 2.2 antipsychotic
Seroquel (quetiapine) 2 antipsychotic

[Screenwriter]

Though psychosis can occur with benzo abuse, the most common occurrence is psychosis through benzo withdrawal. This is not an absolute or straight line occurrence. There was no medical report saying Paddock had an overdose of the drug and no determination could be made of his psychological state after death. This, again, is all conjecture. Use of these drugs does not cause psychosis. It can cause psychosis through abuse, combination with alcohol and withdrawal. None of this can be determined from any post mortem information on Paddock.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter Mass shooters don't overdose on these pharmaceutical prescriptions, they take their prescribed medications in the propper dosage. The drug influences their brains like the father in the youtube link I left.

[Screenwriter]

Again, you're talking about antidepressants: well known for causing these kinds of psychosis from NORMAL use. Benzos, valium, is not associated with psychosis from normal use. It is with ABUSE, especially with alcohol and from withdrawal from usage. But you're trying to hang mass shooter behavior on drugs. These people were taking drugs because they had psychological issues. Maybe they had serious psychological issues. It could also be possible that it was breathrough psychosis despite their use of mitigating drugs. This is another is a host of guesses about people who randomly kill others with no provocation. We are all looking for answers, but when these people are killed, we won't get them. Bye.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

@Screenwriter it's not guesses. The links to mass shootings and these drugs are there, valium too. It's just a fact.
Valium: (diazepam) side effects may cause: confusion, hallucinations, unusual thoughts or behavior; unusual risk-taking behavior, decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger; depressed mood, thoughts of suicide or hurting yourself; hyperactivity, agitation, aggression, hostility.

[genuinlysensitive]

@Screenwriter @John_Doesnt The Washington quote, at least the first part is actually from the Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion..." Washington never said that, and it doesn't mean Christians are "ruining America".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

Madison did say the quote about separation of Church and State, in a letter in 1803. Again this is not saying that Christians are "ruining the country" The separation of church and state means the government cannot FORCE religion upon its citizens. Just like it cannot stop people from being that religion.

The "Christianity is the most perverted system shone to man." is misquoted, I believe deliberately so, in order to push a certain agenda, from this actual quote in a letter to Joseph Preistley 1801:

"this was the real ground of all the attacks on you: those who live by mystery & charlatanerie, fearing you would render them useless by simplifying the Christian philosophy, the most sublime & benevolent, but most perverted system that ever shone on man, endeavored to crush your well earnt, & well deserved fame." - Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Priestley, Washington, March 21, 18011

I cannot find a source for the first Jefferson quote in the citation you provided, the closest thing is an article published in Boston in 1883, nearly 60 years after his death. So while it may be real, it is not in his original writings, nor has any source during his life quoted him as saying it.

So if "everyone knows these quotes weren't fake" "everyone" was wrong. Provably so in 2 cases, and in one case questionably so. There is one quote that is spot on though:



and once again, separation of church and state does not mean that Christians are "ruining" this country. That is simply bigoted!

[John_Doesnt]

@genuinlysensitive if you read I actually gave a reference for every one of those quotes.
www.worldfuturefund.org/.../Jefferson.htm

[genuinlysensitive]

Did you actually read the link you posted? Of course not, just like you didn't bother to research the quotes you posted. First of all there is NOT one quote from Washington or Madison. As for the Washington quote, he never said it, the first part is a rip off of the Treaty of Tripoly:

"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

The second Jefferson quote is something he never said, it is a deliberate misquote of this:

""this was the real ground of all the attacks on you: those who live by mystery & charlatanerie, fearing you would render them useless by simplifying the Christian philosophy, the most sublime & benevolent, but most perverted system that ever shone on man, endeavored to crush your well earnt, & well deserved fame." - Thomas Jefferson to Joseph Priestley, Washington, March 21, 1801"

And the other quote was from a Boston Newspaper 60 years AFTER his death.

[John_Doesnt]

@genuinlysensitive I'm not gonna read another conspiracy theorists posts.

[genuinlysensitive]

Lol, when you get called out on sloppy sourcing of fake quotes you just say "conspiracy theory"? That's weak, I expected more.

[Screenwriter]

THe LV shooter didn't have a history of violence or crime that I know of... I think most of the shooters were first time spree killers... One did have behavior problems with his mom... the 19 yr old who shot up one of the schools... But not of crime or violence..

[OlderAndWiser]

It takes teamwork to keep out great country operating and you named most of the great team members. I would add truck drivers, because they deliver most of the consumable goods that allow us to live comfortable lives.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Yes truck drivers, though they will all be replaced by 2030.

[RolandCuthbert]

America is great? Maybe it is great using some standards and not so great using other standards.'

What makes for a great society?

Is it the living standard for its general population? Is it the standard of living of specific groups? Is the overall intelligence and literacy of its citizens? Is it the virtues and freedoms it aspires to? It is its cultural impact on the rest of the world? Is it leadership in sciences or in specific industries?

Tell me what are you standards for judging greatness, then perhaps a discussion about what is great about America would then make sense.

[Anonymous]

I noticed you didn't mention scientists, doctors and programmers. Without them you could not be spreading your hatred of anything liberal.
Without New York, San Fransisco and Los Angeles, aka THE most liberal cities in the US, the country has nothing for the rest of the developed world. Trump asks why there isn't more European migration instead of Asian, South American and African. THAT is why. Most of America is a rural 3rd world country to white Western Europeans, the only exceptions are those LIBERAL cities. Trump's "good" immigrants come here come for the education, the science and business, not for "Conservative Christian values" or "legal gun ownership" and they don't come to Alabama or Kansas or Missouri, they come to New York and California.
And I say this as a kind-of conservative Muslim. I like that, in the US, I can tell people I can't drink alcohol or eat pork and I won't be questioned. I like that I can ask for halal meat and no one minds. I like that there are people going to Church and Synagogues and Temples and at the same time there are people who are anti-religious, that people are free to worship. You don't get that in Europe, where they take secularism and turn it into state-sanctioned forced atheism where governments are trying to ban Kosher and Halal food or in India where you can't eat halal beef or Pakistan where vegetarian restaurants are almost non-existent.
"Christian values" aren't the good thing here, it is the fact that everyone is truly free to practice their religion in their own way and that is a liberal/libertarian position, not a conservative one.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

I'm not sure where you are go in with your rant but you clearly have a bigoted attitude. Fyi there are more cities than just New York, San Fransisco and Los Angeles, how about Atlanta or Houston or Chicago or Detroit?

[Opinion Owner]

I have a bigoted attitude? You are the one saying "conservative Christian values" make America great. That is what I am opposed to. "conservative Christian values" were NOT in your constitutions. The founding fathers rejected those, and made sure the country would be secular.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

People. I didn't list people who don't make America great.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I got a lot of respect for all these people. Farmers get forgotten about. I don't think most people who live in cities realize how of their lives are supported by farmers. Wheat, meat, soy, etc.

And I'd like to see guns become more normal. Hopefully legal owners can do that. You gotta be pretty brave to be one of the people pushing for that though. Society isn't always friendly towards them.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Some grammar checks would help, but this list, while it needs some tweaking, is a good start. Would you mind if I write a similar take that goes more in depth?

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Didn't you get the SJW memo? In 2019 commenting on a person's grammar and spelling is racist lol

[ObscuredBeyond]

Unless you're trans. Then, if they make an even slight mistake when referencing you or what you pretend to be, they are within bounds to being a cancel campaign. I can't keep all their double standards straight.

[ObscuredBeyond]

*begin one

[Hans222]

I agree with all except the second amendment, that's a US construction error facilitating shoot-outs.
I'm especially happy Trump is not on there! :D

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Most shootouts are some by ilegal gun owners.

[Hans222]

... who could get a weapon since it's so easy to buy...

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Criminals

[oddwaffle]

Are you religious cult? What happened to other religions?

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Which ones?

[oddwaffle]

Lots of them. Ancestor worship, Hinduism, Daoism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Lutheran, Judaism, Satanism, bunch of other weed religions... etc.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Which ones made America great from the beginning?

[oddwaffle]

Ancestor worship obviously. 1st nationnl and all that. Later, Protestant or maybe Lutheran invaded and killed off lots of people. Those bunch has lots of teams.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

The day the spainish landed in America the native American's fate was sealed. They didn't exactly invade, they set up small towns and colonies. It was old world diseases that wiped out like 90% of native people's in the Americas. For instance in New England when the English decided to set up colonies the territory was basically empty even though there had been thriving villages before they got there. Smallpox and influenza spread by French explorers and traders had wiped them all out which started the belief that God had set aside the land for them.

[PUA_Alfa]

Feminism is bullshit. Equality doesn't mean to make women equal with men. İts called female supremacy. Equality means supporting both genders equality in all aspects. İts also include supporting mens rights. Removing alimony, removing women priviliged laws and etc. Anyone who support feminism is a sexist pig.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Is this your out-of-the-box perspective (view from outside) of the USA as seen through a German's eyes? I'm glad to see so much "positives" in your Take. Thank you.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Sorry, I got caught off guard by your GAG name. Because of that, I assumed you're German or in Germany. Still, I'm glad to see so much "positives" in your Take. Thank you again.

[midnightmoon05]

Thank you for sharing. Very good list.
There is no perfect society. We are pretty fortunate to be where we are.

[Madman3000]

Huh wow the police makes America great by shooting black people

Legal gun owners are heroes so every school shooter is hero

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Police shoot more white people every year despite black people committing crime at a disproportionate rate. Black people tend to get shot by other black people.

[Logical_Idolist]

I have to agree! The military one hits home lol. I was born into the military lifestyle and I love it!

[pizzalovershouse]

nice 1 an I like to say I thank a you fire fighters for helping to put out fires in ca an to all forest fire fighters to fire fighters your great people thanks

[loveslongnails]

You left out a very important group...……. the ones who taught you enough to be able to read and write and count, and got paid shit to do it, and continue to get paid shit to do it. Teachers !!

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Not my experience with teachers. My parents and the US army taught me everything, teachers were well paid babysitters. The education is largely failing kids.

[loveslongnails]

Yes, I can tell. Shows your uninformed bias against teachers. The "education system" is failing a lot of kids, but not because of teachers. It's one of the only professions people choose to enter because they want to help kids, knowing they aren't going to make a lot of money, and they're going to likely fight against the system they're in.

[Blitzkrieg_88]

Just my experience

[YHL6965]

It's really nice to see someone being grateful and thankful towards all of these people. They are usually bashed by a lot of people and it's nice to hear some praise for them every now and then.

[Anonymous]

America is not particularly great in any meaningful unless many, many other countries are also great. But then why even use the term great, if American is just on pair with the rest of the free world.

[skyboy64]

Firefighters. USA armies who took down ISIS leaders.

[Jerre]

Everyone you named. This is a great country and it takes a lot of people doing their thing to make it great and keep in great.

[MzAsh]

I agree with a few of these.

[CasaNorba]

very true, unfortunately this is not how Trump wants to "make america great again"