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Not about showing equality it's about trying to show her how much you care about her.
So she's not expected to show how much she cares for you? That isn't gender equality... its female supremacy
Maybe by agreeing to see you she shows she cares. Dressing up and looking nice
So we do the EXACT SAME THING and so it evens out... Plus women always dress up...
Are you seriously hearing yourself right now? You're saying that it should be EQUAL
Woman can be equals just the pride of showing her I care. Nothing about equality
So women shouldn't show how much they care? Men don't deserve to be paid for or at least be equal?
Dude you're being a feminazi, by discriminating based on sex
Of course you should pay for her. She is the future mother of your children. I would never date a guy who refuses to pay for me. That is just trashy.
Maternity leave for 1 year.
... but our ENTIRE LIVES except that 1 year? WOW... WE ARE EQUALS aside from maternity!! Women get educated and work. They earn well. Men are becoming the POORER sex... why on earth should we pay in a gender equal society? It's EQUALITY.
You're just an oppressive woman
Exactly. Great answer and I always pay.
@Asker is the type of guy to knock a women up and leave her alone to take care of the baby and complain whenever she asks him for money to take care of THEIR child.
It really all depends on who asked who. If I went up to a guy and asked him on a date then I would 100% expect to pay the check myself. But after that its whoever gets the check first or who made the plans [for example I asked out on the first (I pay) he made plans for dinner the next week (he pays) I decide to go to the movies after (i pay)]
"NEVER PAY for a woman on a DATE. Do you agree?"
No, I do not agree. The same way I may want to pay for him on a date.
Rules are boring, extremism is just stupid.
There are no suitable options on your biased poll.
Stop expecting men to pay on dates for you just because they are men. That's discrimination based on sex...
If you want to pay for him FINE but you should be paying for him an equal number of times. The same number he pays for you
He doesn't want me to because he knows his salary is much higher than mine and we wouldn't be going out this many times if I had to pay for it all.
Still I was paying my own share when we were still not official.
When did I say i expect men to pay for me? I'm way too independent which, by the way, as a woman is not a good thing. But I rarely dated random people anyway.
Oh so you use HIS MONEY and are ok with CONTINUOUSLY treating him like cash machine.. you can't afford your own food & drink? That's pathetic.
I think you just sounded more pathetic than I could ever be even if I tried.
So what if he pays for some meals? It's not like he's taking me to fancy restaurants, buying me brand stuff or diamonds. I cook dinner for him and do a lot of other things money can't buy.
It's called liking each other, which you obviously haven't experienced yet.
I think MEN and WOMEN both can pay for the date, if they want too, or if either one of them wants to pay.
Yes but the expectation that men need to pay, simply because they're men needs to stop. It should be 50-50. Often girls force men to pay indirectly, by insinuating that they'll refuse to sleep with men if they don't shell out cash
Yes, you're right. That's perfect, well said.
I really hate when men pay for me on dates. It makes me feel like they think I now owe them something, and I don't like that feeling.
Then don't let them if you feel like that. Pick up their cash or card and throw it back at them and throw down yours.
If you are broke, don't force yourself to go on a date. If you are stingy, you might as well just at watch Netflix at home with your pet.
I always pay for myself, otherwise it's assumed I'd want to sleep with them because they paid for a meal. I'm not a prostitute.
Disagree, women are special creatures! I am special! Why don't you like my gender?
hahah lol I like equality I am just pulling your leg!
haha what? calm down apple bitter bottoms!
I'll pay for you every time.
@DamnCurtis am I your favorite gager? hahah!
You wish.
Oppressed men are now going to be ridiculed and called bitter...
in a society that claims to support EQUALITY? This is the problem with feminsm
DamnCurtis stop being a slave and supporting oppression
So mean!!! @DamnCurtis I didn't now I was a nazit? @asker hahah just because women want to be equal to men you get mad! I suggest you calm the fuck down! I will pay your damn dinner! I will support you!! I will buy you a car!
You are the oppressor..
be gone!
lol Atlanta. I have theories. Black girls go to school and black guys don't give a fuck? hahaha
Seriously, girls who get paid a lot are usually not ones you want to bang anyway. Who cares.
So when men ask for equality and point out how unequal things are... people are supposed to laugh? And say WHO CARES?
This is why men aren't equal in the first place. Don't lie, if you've ever dated, you'd be getting the shorter end of the stick overall. So either you're a WILLING SLAVE or you've never dated. Either way you sound like an ENEMY OF EQUALITY
hahahahaha
Yeah keep being a slave...
ur going to hell.
I only ever support my own supremacy. I don't give a fuck what gender you are.
If this "equality" thing continues, I'll have to move to Russia.
Women won't secretly say this but if you aren't paying for most of the shit they'll drop your ass after a couple of date then they'll say it just didn't work out due to lack of "chemistry'".
Unless she's your girlfriend you should not be paying for her.
So you should become your girlfriend's slave or should it be 50-50 with her as well like it would be in an EQUAL relationship?
Think about it
Obviously the second for me, but I'm not so sure about you... if your girlfriend is your equal she would be treated like an EQUAL
Well when you open with a loaded question I feel the need to tell you to think about it.
The options are not only A. Girlfriends slave or B. Split everything 50/50.
Yes, I see her as an equal but I also don't nitpick and get on he case for not paying exactly $25 on a $50 check. I'm fine covering it. She most often jumps in to try and pay for all of it, but when I cover it she'll jump in to cover the tip.
Date a girl of substance and this topic won't be an issue. That's also why I said, unless she's your girlfriend don't pay for her.
There's also times she pays for everything
What percentage of times does she pay more than you? >50-55% right?
That means you're still giving into oppression, albeit slightly
Don't keep track of it. I couldn't even tell you if I did cover the check most times. It feels like we're taking turns unless one of us has more money than the other at the time. Last day we went out I had $50 cash and the rest on card. She had $500 cash so she covered most of the food we had that day.
But again, you're nitpicking. I don't
Of course you don't because you know I'm right
She wouldn't be with you, if you weren't getting the shorter end of the stick
Sure
No I do not agree. Fights over who pays the check r so much fun!
lol yeah true dat!!
I agree, but when it comes down to it. My mother told me I had to pay when I went on dates, I guess I just got used to it... 😅
No it's just how much my dad loves my mom. I think you're just looking too much into it
So your mom doesn't love your dad equally? LOL
And BESIDES THAT we're a whole different generation, where women are doing better.
You took what I said out of context 🙄 I don't pay all the time, I don't mind paying at times.
So women should be paying for you an equal or similar number of times... Unless you're a feminist who pedastalizes women. And your mom is totally excused for not "loving'' your dad as much
Guy pays on the first date, girl on the second, guy on the third.
Whomever invites pays, I will stick to that. If he invites me on a date, he will pay. If I invite him or a group of five I will pay. It's not about gender roles, it's about common courtesy.
I would never let a lady pay on a date with me, I just could not bring myself to allow her to pay for anything. It never happened before and I doubt it will ever happen.
It's okay to pay because it shows we're strong and capable. It's possible to be that and feminine at the same time. You're cute though so I'm sure a girl will ask you on a date and pay for herself one day.
@Kira88 well, I don't date a woman because she is strong and capable but because I like her or fancy her and paying on a date is the least thing I can do.
Males pay for dates specifically to show economic power. This is probably something poorer males face. Historically it has nothing to do with earnings of who you are trying to woo but instead impressing them with your ability to afford things.
You're basically saying men SHOULD be richer than women... and that men SHOULD have to pay for dates... that men SHOULD have enough money to support women.
looks like you didn't read the description. WAKE UP
Actually I just know a little history. -shrug-
LOL so if we're going to do everything as per history...
Let's stop sending girls to school and close all job opportunities for females. Lets give women no rights. And lets take dowry, condone wife beating and allow men to lock women up in the house. Lets all cover women's heads and ban them from public spaces OK?
WTF are you smoking dude?
All women have been forcefully married off, they are to be given by their fathers to a suitable guy and have no say in the matter.
Dating & impressing women is a feminist thing... what you're saying goes against GENDER EQUALITY... don't men deserve equality? Should we officially be recognized as second class citizens?
If what you say is true dating and making women is actually the opposite of feminism.
Using women for economic gain is not equality. It's pure subordination. "Marrying them off" is usage of property.
But times have changed. This hasn't been the case for at least a century in the modern world.
The basis of marriage, love and all that, has been commercialized though. You wouldn't pay for a date but how hesitant are you to buy a diamond ring for your sweety?
Surely you'll demand one in kind?
Why isn't anyone proposing to you anyway?
Why even date unless you are allied at all?
Half- morals. That's why. A generation of convenience.
WRONG I'm saying we should pay for ourselves, and make it 50-50 so that its EQUAL. What you're saying is sexist and is like the opposite of the patriarchy.
Men are not slaves. Don't be an enemy of EQUALITY because that is where our society wants to go... and has been trying, but only for women, causing them to become superior and creating PEOPLE LIKE YOU
No wonder marriage is on the decline, because it isn't about LOVE and all that bullshit. It is a slave trade.
The "modern world" claims to be about equality and "modern society" supports equality, so that's what it should be. Not a matriarchy!!
And women's sexual liberation only came in the 1960s so your data of the "past century" is ABSOLUTELY WRONG
I dont know where you learned the word matriarchy but you're misusing it. Modern marriage is still patriarchial. Modern divorce however is matriarchial.
Women are sadly only the winners when things dissolve. Women were able to vote 40 years prior in the U. S. to 1960. Extremely common knowledge.
Even earlier in other places in the world. By hundreds of years at times.
The sexual revolution was in 1980 by the way in the U. S. 20 years after your declared date. So... I'm not sure what happened too you but...
Well technically there have been no matriarchies, so its not even a thing. BUT we could be the first with people like you!!
Women extract tons of things using dating, marriage & relationships WTF are you smoking? There is a massive amount of data on how women spend money on themselves... and actually they spend 90% MORE MONEY THAN THEY EARN.
The patriarchy is dead. Women are allowed to leave the house and talk back. Many women nag their husbands to death. Stop spreading LIES. Modern marriage is matriarchal too, the man is supposed to get down on his knees and propose... buy the ring... provide for the bitch while she sits at home being an EQUAL lol. What a fucking joke
The world has had matriarchial societies...
Man this is no fun. Just save some scratch and use a coupon.
You support widespread abuse of men as cash machines... and say a call for equality is NO FUN? Wake up, you're a trained slave.
Most anthropologists hold that there are no known societies that are unambiguously matriarchal
Of the two of us there is only one enslaved by zealotry. My not supporting you doesn't mean anything of the sort. I only fear your fanaticism is not an isolated case; sensational and increasingly unstable puerile are becoming more powerful due to a bored global theater.
This is truly concerning.
You, you are awesome. Pat yourself on the back for being direct and informative in your opinion. I agree completely with what you're saying.
That's good advice for guys who want to have the chronic problem of a lack of a second date, or only dates with feminists.