The problem is you picked a few bad examples out of the bunch. MGTOW isn't a movement, club, or group it's an ideology that varies from man to man. Some men outright avoid women to avoid the problems that come with a mad woman (false rape allegations, child support, domestic violence accusations, cheating, etc. Which by the way can ruin a mans life even after being proven innocent or the fact that even if the child isn't yours if you didn't find out until 1 year later you'll still need to pay child support until the child turns 18). Some MGTOW men still date or have sex with other women. The only basic principles that all MGTOW men share is that 1. No one will tie us down whether it be marriage or any other factor in life. 2. Avoid having children at all costs in order to keep rule 1 intact. and 3. Women are a second thought we will not put you before ourselves just because society encourages us to. In other words MGTOW is just a way of saying "Here's your equality" without being an asshole about it.
Also the people you see ridiculing the ideal of MGTOW are the same guys who'll say anything in order to get a girl to look at them. In other words they are truly the ones who have trouble finding relationships. The difference between them and true MGTOW idealists is that MGTOW idealists can live without the attention of a woman and can function just fine without sex or sexual pleasure. Other men hate that because they see it as a threat to their chances of actually finding someone who will have sex with them since women tend to be more attracted to being ignored for some reason. Which in fact is scientifically proven to be true.
Men who Got Terrified Of Women
From the men I’ve met and the experiences I’ve been shared, it’s a large group of men who think dating, relationships, and marriage are a waste of time and money and that he shouldn’t have to “work” to have sex with a woman, who should be ready to please him like a whore without actually being one. Almost all are anti-relationship and anti-woman, so you’d think they’d all date each other but they’re extremely anti-gay as well. They think society forces men to date and love on women and generally be kind instead of just ravaging female bodies like it’s “supposed” to be. I’ve read some responses from MGTOW men that scare me, one man said he strictly masturbates to porn because he can watch and fantasize about doing whatever he wants to a woman without having to deal with one in real life who would scream and kick. So, they’re an interesting group. Interesting in the “cross the street when you see one” kind of way.
Men who can’t get a woman and decide that they should unite to live a life free of women. Honestly, these guys are doing the gene pool a great favor by not reproducing, and more people should choose to just go away, too.
Wtf are you talking about my worst nightmare consists of being alone in the dark letting everyone down and being chassed down by a monster so scary you would shit yourself
Men who can’t get along with women but think women are the problem when usually it’s just them.
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MGTOW is neither a movement nor group - it is an idea that a man does not have to abide by modern social norms placed on him and can choose his own path in life. It's as simple an explanation as one could be.
Being a male in society means that society has strict expectations of men. How they should dress, act, think, buy, and the lifestyles they should cater to.
Cars are sold with advertisements with busty over sexualized women.
Beer is sold the same way.
So are many other products specifically advertised to men.
Taking the red pill and becoming MGTOW is throwing off those societal expectations placed upon men. We choose to go our own way and dictate our destiny instead of having society cram it down our throats instead.
We choose to view marriage as a losing game, often due to being raised in a family that went through divorce. We choose to stay single instead of rushing into a relationship with a person who can take everything he's ever earned, custody of his children, his house, his dog, and even his livelihood/job. We choose to realize that society has stacked the deck against us simply for being born with a penis.
More than anything MGTOW is men being frustrated by women who won't listen and actively try to silence the male voice. We choose to walk away because women have chosen to ignore our place in the world, shaming us and manipulating men into doing what they want or casting us out.
MGTOW men are the men that women forgot about.
The wrong answer to the right problem. They see how culture has changed to favor women over men and how western women tend to have different mindsets than they used to, but instead of adjusting their lives to seek out good women and get along in life with that new information in mind, they turn and run away from it all, pettily blaming all women as evil and trying to flee from their problems and the life before them.
I have no issue with MGTOWs that simply stopped caring because they lost interest in the effort, but there is a surprising large percentage of them that haven't gone their own way at all - they've scuttled to the sidelines and started throwing rotten tomatoes at everyone still participating in the game. They don't want to live their own lives, they're obsessed with how enlightened they are
MGTOW.
Self ownership and self actualisation. Refusal to contribute to and choice to opt out of a society that is detrimental to males.
A growing phenomena for males young and old even though most don't know what MGTOW is they live and mirror the MGTOW lifestyle.
A resource for males who pool together knowledge wisdom and life experiences.
Those that are reject gynocentrism and do not ignore the ugly and destructive nature of the human female.
A male space that female humans can not invade or infiltrate as very few have anything of substance to contribute. other than being a human female.
A concern for some human females that may be convinced of being unable to obtain a "successful" man by female standards.
A brotherhood that is forming that cares nothing for skin color, nationality and other things that would otherwise divide males.
An individual decision and declaration.
I don't know what it is. But I know what the phrase says to me.
It's about men being leaders. It's about maturity and making decisions for oneself and for the sake of a man's own goals. It's not living to live up to someone else's standard or for appearances sake. It's living for the sake of living and becoming oneself.
It's more important to describe "The Red Pill" first.
TRP is a door to realizing the gynocentric lie men have been told for years. While women have been allowed to change tactics in using men for a thousand years (most notably through the legal system), men are still expected to service women through providing resources unconditionally without any guarantee of anything in return.
TRP shows men the truth of societal behavior.
Now past that door enters into MGTOW, MRA, returning to "Blue Pill", or whatever.
It is men who do not want to follow the typical path in life, dictated mostly by women as being normal, and involving getting married and raising a family. They still like women and date women, but choose to not get locked down in relationships and focus on their lives, careers and having fun instead.
MGTOW updated term for a confirmed bachelor, they do not hate women far from it , they just do not wish to have a close personal relationship at this particular moment, this is not set in stone it depends if they meet someone they feel they are compatible with.
Its basically a bunch of perma-virgins who are spiteful towards today's modern third wave feminist kinda women (who aren't much better themselves) and dedicate themselves to arguments on the internet. A more organized group of Incels. (Involuntary Celebits)
MGTOWers are a bunch of enbittered guys with legitimate but misguided concerns. The problem is not women but the western modern culture and the ((forces))) who are rotting it.
MGTOW is simply men refusing to play the game of societal expectations. We've seen how the system is rigged against us, so we've opted out. Sometimes the only winning move is not to play.
It's a necessary evil. If they never procreate snd completely refuse to procreate then we both know that they are still going against the system.
They're just guys who pretend to be above the dating scene but can't stop talking about it.
If they really didn't care about dating then they would just chill on their own.
It's a bunch of bitter men that think women in general are the devil.
The first rule of MGTOW is always talk about MGTOW.
A good intentioned but poorly executed response to modern day feminism.
Probably better to read this
https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/
A convenient excuse made for many men not taking ownership of their own issues. It is a definition of 'piss weak'
I notice they say they're going their own way yet flock into a group.
So, then, gay with video games and beer?
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