Are traditional gender roles good for society?

[Guyana90]

Yes

No

Other

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I think they could be depending on how they manifest themselves and how extreme they are. I think men and women being different has to do more with biology than anything else, and this difference has allowed the flourishing of society in my opinion. You have women who dominate the health care field more than men because of women’s natural caring ability for others, and you have men dominate things like engineering and law enforcement for the more logical and less emotional aspects of men’s biology. You’ll see women and men gravitate towards what they like based on their innate biology and psychology and rarely anything else. The reason why you don’t see a majority of women wanting to go into law enforcement or firefighting, is the same reason why you don’t see a lot of men wanting to become nurses. It’s the biological and psychological differences that govern what interests men and women

[BrianMerritt]

Yes.
A good society understands that not everybody is the same, and that that's a GOOD thing. We all have different talents, shortcomings, genetics, whatever, but those things aren't a BAD thing. It's not a coincidence that EVERY civilization in human history had men as hunters/soldiers and women as nurses/mothers. Gender roles exist not because we make them exist, but because each sex was biologically designed to do certain jobs. 50 million years of evolution created gender roles, society didn't, society was based ON what humanity's strengths were.

[PrincessPie]

Yes, i like gender roles.

[COCOCHANEL]

in many ways yes

[COCOCHANEL]

thank you

[lumos]

They're only good for the people who happen to fit into them, and the majority really doesn't fit traditional gender roles to a T anymore. People deserve to be free and choose what they want to do with their life. To try to force everyone to fit into the same mold is crazy, because we're all different and we should be free to express our differences.

[GothAncap]

I swear, people aare so much more closed minded than I thought! This really makes me not give a f*** about other's opinions

[GothAncap]

Not you, just the ones who downvoted you

[lumos]

@GothAncap haha I was scared for a second that you meant me and my opinion. I don’t worry too much about the downvoters because I know that if anyone tried to force them to be something they’re not, they would be the loudest whiners of all. They’re usually just a bunch of assholes who are more concerned about their own narrow-minded opinions rather than the rights of others.

[GothAncap]

Exactly! It's so obvious to anyone who believes in rights that these people don't care about anyone but themselves. I knew these people existed, but not in these amounts! It's so high because people are less empathetic than ever (as a group). Studies have even shown that

[MlleCake]

Most people don't realize that what they personally think of as
traditional gender roles" have never been the ONLY tradition. Most of them are talking about a set of traditions that were only in place for about 15 years, and never for everyone.

Enforcing one set of gender roles as ideal, and even mandatory, has never been good for all of society. There is no reason to think it will start being good in the future.

[grega239]

gender roles are imposed on is by nature. since forever.

[MlleCake]

That's not what anthropology teaches us.

[grega239]

no... human psyhcology does. 2 different genders 2 different sets of roles that fullfill certain tasks required to move forward through life. this is also observable in most animal species.

[MlleCake]

There has never been just one set of gender roles in any society, and they vary by society and through time.

[grega239]

ofc not male and female gender roles are different... thats why they re called gender roles, if u can belive it. no they dont vary and never have. man brings food to the table, woman prepares it. man defends the home, woman takes care off the kid. no variation here. as i said, most animal species on earth behave according to thier gender

[MlleCake]

@grega239 That has never been the way that all people live, and it's not how we live now.

[grega239]

yes it was and it still is to a degree. gender roles are the same for every1, how certain groups went about performing them may be different. men do the more physically demanding and dangerous tasks and women took care of the things that were mostly confined to the home. thats why they're called "traditional", bcs its how things were done for a long time

[MlleCake]

That's never how all people lived. Societies have had differing gender roles throughout history. You don't know your history, anthropology or biology.

[VIVANT]

#Mikecake

I appreciate your answer 🙂

[CoffeeWC]

It gives people direction towards what to do. It helps to organize society. Some people have no idea what to do, and gender roles help assign certain people to do certain things.

[Anonymous]

Yes TO SOME EXTENT... Traditional gender roles are based on the biologically differences between men and women. Men as protectors, providers, and leaders is based on men being physically more adept to muscular development (hence protectors/warriors), men don't have periods nor do they become pregnant meaning that they never need to take months on end off of work because of a pregnancy, and don't require certain privileges to help them deal with those issues (hence making them good providers), and as the male body produces fewer hormones it's easier to base certain decision wholly off logic and/or to make tough decisions when judgement could easily be clouded by emotion.

Women are often seen as caretakers, mothers, and supporters. All of this generally extends from women's ability to produce more hormones. In other words, women are generally more empathetic than men making them superior when it comes to raising kids, causing others to act in kindness, and in some crucial instances tempering the cold logic of a foolish man with mercy.

[NicoletteKomotov]

Gender isn't about what's between your legs or not, it's about how you feel about yourself. That can be a range rather than just one way or another. It's about time we as a society drop our paradigms and perceptions of how things should be based on outdated beliefs, dogma, and paradigms and start allowing how things are. Nature even has sequential hermaphrodites that start as a male and end up a female as they progress through life such as a Baramundi fish (Quite tasty by the way) en.wikipedia.org/.../Barramundi#Life_cycle
Limiting women's or men's roles in jobs, house etc only reduces the opportunities for both to contribute to a productive and prosperous society, family unit, individual... Limiting the free expression of gender regardless of what is between the legs limits living life to it's fullest.
Screw gender roles and patriarchal society. Just my opinion. I know most will feel threatened by it just like whenever a societal norm is broken. Oh well.

[Guyana90]

I like gender roles. My opinion.

[Catholicgirl22]

Neither good nor bad, just no longer necessary. In the past before contraception, labor saving devices and medical technology freed women up to take on other roles that were traditionally done by men traditional gender roles were necessary and women had no real choices.
In a relationship in 2018 couples deceide between themselves the roles they take in the relationship or household. Most women in a relationship I know still take on the traditional gender role for women such as cooking, cleaning, laundry etc while men take on the traditional male gender role. Obviously it's not always that clear cut and there are overlaps and men and women help each other out in those roles or do them together. Relationships tend to be 50/50 at least in effort towards the relationship.

[dancing_in_nebulas]

I think they come in handy when applicable, like if wifey is injured and is out of work, but takes up a housewife role.

Gender roling didn't become a thing until American culture lol

Housework was WORK. A wife was literally an agriculturist, construction worker, in home nurse, caregiver, fashion designer, chef, lumber jack, weaver, etc but at the same time.

The husband was usually on the verge of horrific death at his heavy labor job miles away.

This system was developed to make a male human and female human live advantegeously against survival odds using the dimorphic strengths of each gender.

Modern times, survivability is not as prevalent as before, which is why the gender roles of the new age focus on increasing the economic aptitude as a family unit.

We dont need any farm hands or a dude lifting heavy ass stones, but we do need high earning power and urban efficiency skills.

Children are actually more responsible for housework now lol

[VIVANT]

Wel farmers need farm hands.. I’ve been one 🙂

[VIVANT]

You are right though, this housewife stuff was respected as work before the industrial revolution and women got relegated to indoors and title of nurse mAid and help mate.

[D_Bone_Steak]

Half of these women hold onto a stereotype of men and in order to empower themselves as a woman, she must behave like that male stereotype. ... and thus you get the promiscuous, don't body shame me, female chauvinist that looks like a (oink oink) fat pig. She's just as attractive as the male counterpart, the stereotype, is to any normal woman.

There's also a rash of men that will cuck themselves out to that type of woman. I hope these men and those type of women exit the scene due to natural selection.

[Azzazle]

I chose yes not because I think women belong in the kitchen or anything or that men are inferior but because as a guy were wired a certain way. Were wired to be protective and providers. It is in our DNA and simply put. Men feel useless without this. It is why many men are getting out away from a lot of the alternative gender roles. Like for example I myself am pretty much fed up with women because of the toxic feminism. If i open the door for a woman im an asshole who thinks women can't open the door for themselves if i dont then im the asshole who mistreats women. Its that sort of gender role feminism toxicity that is driving away marriage eligible men.

[ak667]

Maybe. I think it at least had the benefit of giving people a greater sense of structure and purpose to their lives, of accepting their responsibilities and roles in a relationship, and not being so confused to the point where many men and women have limited their interactions with each other to a predominantly sexual one and nothing else while confused and frustrated about relationships.

So it at least provided some sense of structure to society. Right now I don't see the absence of structure as a hands-down improvement; all I see is a lot of confusion and frustration. Perhaps we just need to find a way through this mess and figure out some sense of structure which provides more opportunities for everyone, but right now I don't see the chaos that has resulted from crumbling away at these traditional structures like gender roles and marriage as an overall improvement.

[captain_voidwalker]

Let's see when we had traditional gender roles we went from living in trees to living in highrises. From riding horses to flying airplanes around the world. And we landed people on the moon.
Since we got rid of gender roles we've seen crime rise 1500% we've seen 500million babies murdered via abortion. Congrats ladies that's a higher body count than men have via war for all of recorded history. And we've destroyed the family so our kids get raised by a single parent which is largely responsible for that crime statistic sky rocketing

[ThatPersonOverThere]

^This. The degradation of society is because of feminist cancer.

We've told half of society that they're no longer reponsible. That there's no reason to make good choices for the long term because we'll subsidize all your fuck ups by taxing men. Go do whatever makes you happy. If you want to be a fucking slut who spreads STDs. gets an abortion twice a year, and lives on welfare then that's a GOOD thing because it shows women being empowered!

[SirRexington]

It's a very complicated issue. What is traditional considered? Why do these roles exist?

We see cross culturally the difference between men and women. The reason is because of sociology and evolutionary psychology. We developed traits to successfully raise and children and survive more efficient.

But now that we don't live in dirt and Darwinian society, we are freer to make our own decisions as we fit ourselves to a more comfortable lifestyle. So we evolve to open up the opportunities that once weren't there for us.
On the flip side, even when we do have equal opportunity we see a vast difference in career choices as well as personal lifestyle choices. There is a biological basis. But we have taken it too literally. And we twist it by limiting individual freedom of choices by restricting our movement.

[laurieluvsit]

YES! ... very much so, but so are nontraditional gender roles :)

[skateranon123]

beautifull couple

[motownplayer2000]

No, following blind traditions is never good! Yes, their are roles for each sex. But those roles should be defined for every single couple/relationship. Not society. Society has been f**ked up since the beginning. So the fact that people continue to insist that that’s the way it should work is beyond me. Especially in this country (America) where people get so upset when people are told what they should be doing, and don’t mind sticking they nose in other people’s business telling others how they should live and what they should or shouldn’t accept in society. It doesn’t work both ways... #sorrynotsorry lol

[NicoletteKomotov]

Nice commentary. There is hope

[motownplayer2000]

Lol thanks

[Browneye57]

Of course - they're good for everybody. I can't figure out why this generation is so rebellious about their sexuality. Take joy in your role. You'll get more out of life.

[Natalie11299]

Seriously though!! I’m just tired of hearing people say that girls and guys are the same and equal. We are different and we should embrace that.

[Browneye57]

@Natalie11299 - Absolutely!! And so refreshing to hear.

Men and women are simply not the same. Sure, they're both human beings, but the sexes are very different in how they act, react, percieve things, process information, and make decisions. The have different emotional connections to each other, to sex, to commitment, and what their relationships mean to them.

Mark Gungor, a couples therapist and seminar presenter, does a pretty good job of breaking down communication differences, you can google his name for more content, but here's a pretty good vid:

https://youtu.be/0BxckAMaTDc

[dianninja]

I think the problem with labels and narrow minded societal roles is that it marginalises people who don't really fit into them. Notice that most women say no to this, because most of us don't exactly grow up wanting to be always prim and 'ladylike' wanting nothing but to be subservient. I grew up wanting to play with dinosaurs and computers when I was expected to be playing with barbies and dresses. When I wanted what I thought was fun, I'd had to take them from my brother. Isn't it sad we put such pointless things into gender roles? I mean how are gender roles good when all it does is limit people?
Look at suicide statistics. Men are committing suicide and are having major issues with lack of emotional support. Doesn't it make sense that men have it worse with mental health because masculinity and male gender roles pressure men to keep things inside, and to be strong?
Who exactly does gender roles help?

[Guyana90]

I’m a woman and I like traditional gender roles. Don’t speak for me.

[Jeremy_G]

Guyana90 preach

[VIVANT]

She did not speak for you. She spoke against being marginalized.

[dianninja]

Guyana90 I said most lol calm

[sjoes006]

The funny thing is the majority of men voting yes are only thinking of roles for the opposite sex or gender benders or whatever they call them.

If you frame the question differently to is the traditional gender model for what it means to be masculine many may feel differently.

They don’t want to be seen as less than for having muscles, they don’t like the idea of having to be the provider. But then heaven forbid the woman step up and make more than him. He likes that resentment.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Statistically speaking? Yes, all data we have heavily leans towards that conclusion. Men are happier, women are happier, children fair better and are happier. Kind of explains why its the tradition to be honest (and how it developed in every single major and minor civilization in the world).

[Leeda]

If traditional is that man works and then comes home, gets the food that his wife cooked after coming home from work, picking up kids and cleaning the house, it is not so good. Both should just do their best to make family life work. N if the families are good, the whole society is good

[African_Queen0309]

I think it honestly depends on what the situation is and whether they're fine playing that role just as long as your not assuming because to me I get mad when someone asks me to do something rather than my brother because it would make more sense gender wise. Make sure you ask and not assume or order around.