The earth will carry on and doesn’t need ‘saving’.
There have been several mass-extinction events in the past, and this has led to new life forms becoming dominant, including our species, so no, the earth doesn’t need saving per se – it will just be a very different earth to the one that we know and love.
The trouble is that humans are populating the earth in plague proportions, human activities are consuming planetary resources and polluting the planet in an unsustainable way, and these are adversely affecting our ecosystem in many ways that directly jeopardize the ecology which we (and many other species) depend on for survival, so many scientists are predicting that we are at the dawn of another mass extinction event.
When food becomes scarce and large populations are displaced from their homes, you get competition for resources like never before seen. Wars will be inevitable, and economies will collapse, so the dollar won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on. The weather won’t just be ‘warmer’ - it will be excessively unpredictable, and make it harder for plants and animals to survive, and could even send Europe into a new ice age when ice melt from Greenland stifles the warm ocean current that heats the wind that prevails over Europe.
So, the future ain’t looking too pretty for our species.
Many of us know what changes are required, but our policy makers seem to be owned by the big end of town, esp. the fossil fuel lobby, so they are not taxing carbon emissions, not penalizing pollution, and even making it artificially cheap for everyone to keep using them with government subsidies.
We would have had electric cars running on Nickel Cadmium batteries 30 years ago, except the patent was sold to General Motors who resold it to Texaco who refused to license the technology for use in vehicles because it was contrary to their business model.
So much of our prime agricultural land has been contaminated by insecticides that the insect population worldwide is being decimated. Without bees to pollinate our fruit, we won’t have half the fruit that we once enjoyed. Insects are the foundation of our ecology and to think destroying them won’t have consequences is madness.
I hope that our species can make positive changes for sustainability very soon, because change will be forced upon us soon whether we like it or not.
The planet will be fine without us – it just won’t be the kind of planet that allowed our species to thrive.
P. S. Any believers who believe in the Revelation, that God will bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth – this now seems inevitable from a secular perspective, but please don’t think that some deity will save one religion over another. Our whole species is the cause of the problems, and all life on this planet will have to deal with the fallout.
I've struggled with this longer than most people can imagine. I've been warning students about the extreme danger of global warming for well over 30 years. Then as now, most people don't especially care. The tragedy of it then was that all of it could easily have been avoided by modest sacrifices that people were not willing to make. Now, it would take massive sacrifices that very few will do voluntarily but will soon be compelled to do anyway.
I admit that I don't understand this reaction. I thought that what makes us human is our ability to see a world beyond ourselves both in time and space. It seems we are less human than we thought. Quite the opposite, in many ways. Trump goes out of his way to accelerate our mutual destruction and his supporters love him for it. They laugh knowing that destroying the planet really upsets liberals. And it does, because liberals are not so stupid as to think this is funny. But how could they, even they, miss the obvious? Do they know of another planet they can move to when this one can no longer sustain them? Do they think they can get by without food and water when those because luxuries beyond the reach of many or most? Money is worthless in times like those. They are like riders in a lifeboat who punch holes in the bottom to vex their enemy on the other side of the boat.
I also see too many who simply give up. They figure that people are not going to change so the world is doomed no matter what. It's not actually clear if disaster is avoidable yet or not. We've never experimented on our habitat like this before so there is much we don't know. But even if it is too late to reverse global warming, we can almost certainly slow it. Isn't it worth fighting for if doing so will spare billions of people decades of misery and death?
I'm old enough that I will probably be dead before the truly worst gets underway. And yet, I can't seem to stop caring about it. I can't manage to limit my perspective to my own life. But I do wish that the people who will be affected by it first, that is, young people, cared more. At the very least they could vote for leaders who do care about their future enough to do something to help guard it.
Well the technology is there to go carbon neutral solar energy capture via molten salt, concrete block energy storage and photovoltaics we could sacrifice a very small portion of the US desert and with some capital invested instead of wars and military buildup cheap, clean energy for our citizens but we humans are obviously not smart enough to collectively prioritize and limit our gazes to the greenback and quick gains. With global population exploding it will only get worse
@Meatunnel69 You are absolutely right. There is a hell of a lot we can do. We could have even made a lot of money by investing in clean energy all along. Solar can only take us so far. I'm also in favor of greatly expanding nuclear energy with investment in safer and more efficient technologies. For example, the temperatures of a nuclear reactor can fry water to turn it into hydrogen and oxygen to fuel transportation. That idea was conceived 50 years ago and somehow it never caught on.
I really don't worry about over-population. The coming climate will take care of that.
I'm interested in seeing the Earth continue past the decline of the human race.
I don't know if humans will survive forever, nor do I hope for such a thing. If we survive, we survive. If we die, we die. My individual opinion in this matter hardly, well, matters.
But I think it's only natural to want to take care of your house - then again, that's how I was raised.
There's systemic changes necessary to create policies and a general societal culture that will keep this planet going as long as possible.
What's the saying? "Leave this place better than you found it." That applies to a room full of people as much as it applies to this planet.
A fool thinks only of themselves. A wise person thinks of those who come after them.
I will do my part buts lot of times things I would like cost too much to be able to do eg solar panels and a hybrid car there is a balance you've gotta maintain. On the other hand though I do believe there'll be too much pollutants and the earth will wipe mankind off of the planet or force us to cope whether that'll be rising sea levels and there'll be a wet age again, then later on another ice age
This is why I believe the press should focus more on what's-his-name, that invented a device to clean up plastic waste in the ocean, and focus on getting more of his invention implemented.
Instead, we have gasbags trying to gaslight us with this insane horsecrap that every invention ever was really secretly invented by blacks, and then "stolen" by everyone else. Except... how are blacks so inept at security, as to always be stolen from? The premise defeats itself; yet I have had to deal with loony chicks on Facebook trying to preach it to me anyway. Why? Because they insist Thanksgiving was about genocide, even though the descendants of the Indians that were there are also crying "horseshit!" But these black supremacist chicks apparently know the Indians' history better than the Indians themselves do? Because blacks don't lie about their history or anyone else's, but everyone else does? It's insane.
And when not bombarding us with that, the press hit us over the head with Greta, calling for white genocide in America specifically. "Stop having babies!" Never mind that Russia, America, and Canada are the three nations with the cleanest air in the world, and America is only beneath Canada in cleanliness due to Chicago and LA.
Never mind that all those third world hellholes we're told to fetishize... have far dirtier air, and insanely high birth rates! But they're not *white* babies, so... that makes it okay?
These frauds are so painfully easy to see through.
No, not really. Its reasonable to think that RIGHT NOW, a peraon has been born that will die due to catastrophic failure of the planet. Greenhouse gases are close to 400% of the maximum liveable levels. Its too late to "save" anything. Now im not saying we should just pave over every last patch of grassland and dump everyrhing into the water.
We ruined this rock. There is an upside... kinda. Humanity is nearing its end. Because of over population, wreckless disposal practices, and irresponsible living arrangements, mankind is done for. But all is not lost. Picture the planet as a dog. Now picture humanity as a bunch of fleas. Earth will be irritated until the fleas starve to death or die from fighting. Once rhe flea population gets low enough, the dog will shake and shake until all the fleas are gone.
After all the fleas (people) are gone, the dog (earth) will finally be able to heal. Give the old rock 10 or 20 million years, and you won't even be able to tell we almost made it explode.
Then, another piece of primordial ooze will crawl out of the ocean. And some other kind of monkey will learn to walk upright. Maybe they won't fuck it up.
Yes and no. I won't be around so, for me, it's moot. However, I've been an environmentalist for almost 50 years! I remember the first Earth Day and when the USA was filled with litter. I remember the Energy Crisis, the gas lines, and various other environmental issues like Love Canal, Agent Orange, Three Mile Island, CFCs affecting the ozone layer, etc. So, I live the motto "Think global. Act local." and recycle and cut down on plastic use and drive less, and drive to maximize gas mileage, etc.
In the end there is nothing humans can do for the future. Nor can humans go into the past and even so humans would still fuck things up. So at this point there is nothing to do but live are lifes and having kids is just pointless because all your doing is bringing a child to this world just to see the world end. And even if the world don't end in there lifes what about there kids. And the possibitles of getting passed 2100 without world wide deaths due to a lot of bad shit is low af.
flooding of a lot of worldwide countrys has already been predicted before 2100 and what can we do pretend we can fix it the only thing we can do is maybe push it back to 2200 max but what's the point in that.
Save future generations from theirselves. Have you heard this one? Man's greatest enemy is themselves.
What's actually changing in human relationships? Every problem in this world is caused by unhealthy relationships between us.
And every generetion is less able to form meaningful connections between themselves and members of previus generations.
So yes, I am very passionate about saving the earth. And I don't think we'll fare any better on a different planet if we don't start putting in the work required to build meaningful intergenerational relationships as well as within each generation.
I am concerned, yes. I didn't know how bad things were growing up where I did, but knowing more now I want to try and help. It is fairly hard to figure out what's actually going on sometimes though, and where you should help, when there are so many conflicting arguments and data gathered by so many disagreeing people... It would be nice if the media and/ or the government stepped out long enough for the people who know what they're doing and aren't biased to explain some stuff. There's just so many truths now it's hard to trust any of them. I sort of went down a rabbit trail there; I apologize.
When the second world ear had ended, this same question was asked. The changes that have happened , have been for the good. Iike one thing taking lead out of fuel. At the time it was heralded as a great move forward, but now they grumble about the CO2. coming out of vehicles exhaust, it's non toxic good for the plants. Now it's evil, I wonder what things would be like it they had continued with the CO. that use to come out exhausts, which is a killer,(carbon monoxide poisoning). You cannot we what ever you do. And this generation will still do things wrong that the next generation will be critical of...
yes but the problem is we think it won't happen for 100s of years why worry when we're seeing tempatures rise an not enough of us willing to send are leaders positions to change the climate we will see a rise of hotter tempatures an more droughts to bigger natural disasters an them less food it just means making changes in fuel we use to energy the clean energy teck is coming down faster now in price we could change it now an stop the warming of we, all demand it from our leaders but we think let some1else change it they will take care of it it's time for us all to step up an demand it now
I think it is important that we clean up after ourselves and not leave out grand kids a mess. As with the civil rights (now social justice) and women's equality (now radical feminist) movements, self serving hustlers have taken over the conservation (now enviro) movement and perverted it beyond all recognition. All three are tools of totalitarian Leftism and we should be concerned with what they want to do not to the earth, but to people.
I'm sorry. This is complete foolishness. I you think the creator of the earth is not fully capable of sustaining it until it no longer has any useful purpose, then you're brain is broken and nothing that any intelligent person has to say will even phase your scared, damaged intellect.
Huh? So you think us humans have no impact to the earths health? Do you see how much we've polluted this planet? This 'creator' has no part in this. It's the humans doing. Your brain is broken for actually believing the crap that is fed to you
@SillyChrissy None what so ever. You have been brain washed to believe that you are someone who counts for something. The perfect fool. If you don't believe that God is in control of everything, then you are the perfect patsy. You pay for the ride and you pay for the parking ticket. It can't be any more plan than that.
@SillyChrissy None what so ever. Yes, we are the trash of the universe. Did you do this? I know I didn't. Do you actually believe that you would not end up in a casket if you really tried to stop it? You are interesting for a fool, but that is not enough to make me side with the side that is gonna lose.
God will keep this place going until He pulls the plug. Then, by that time the people of this planet will be so happy to just end it all. I pray you are dead by then cause it's not gonna be pretty.
Do you realize how malicious you are despite that you're a religious person? What is the point of Christianity if you're just going to be close minded to other people's opinions or beliefs. You can't possibly believe you're speaking light. If you are a true follower of Christianity you'd learn to talk to people respectfully despite the difference of beliefs. I might not be a religious person but you aren't going to make it either with your negative way of thinking. When your 'creator' comes to cleanse the earth or w. e you'll be left on this earth. Your belief isn't enough to make you right with you're creator. :)
@SillyChrissy None whatsoever. Make yourself busy with whatever makes you feel fulfilled, but God doesn't need you and you are only making things worse by medaling in His affairs.
You miss the entire message of Christianity. Let go and let God. He doesn't need our permission. This all belongs to him. The most you could ever be is a pretender.
@SillyChrissy That is your folly. God is in control of your next heartbeat. He will decide if you live through the day. You are so oblivious to the truth that it is laughable.
@Ninjazzed Guess you will have a lot of company, oh sorry, God has it planned so that you will be in solitary. Too bad. I bet a lot of others would have loved to hear you screaming like you're insane, which by the way is a real possibility. In fact after a couple of centuries I doubt you will even be able to remember your name, much less anything else. Oh, and the only rule, you can't die. God's rule, not mine. You already hate Him so keep it up.
Oh no the rapture is nigh only when religious people say it. Not while actual scientists can prove our looming doom with stable science. Piss off lmao.
So Ninjazzed, are you really a dude pretending to be a chick? That is what this is starting to look like, I hope you know how weird that is cause other real chicks are gonna look at you and know you are a fake. Just gotta say, not good.
You’re a 50-year-old snooping around young girls on random GAG threads and advertising your religious propaganda, you’re obviously the shit-eating creep with a pedo vibe... that one pretty much checks itself out.
@Ninjazzed You think I can't be real because everyone you know is a fake and so are you? Well, the joke's on you. I couldn't care less about your age or hat you're a female or your skin color or anything. I don't want to know you or have anything to do with you.
The scary thing is that you live on the same planet as do I and others that I care about. You are a virus and unless more people stand up and point out just how sick you are you will infect others with your evil.
I know how to fight evil and I'm not afraid of you.
Acid rain, Hole in ozone layer, El nino Mass starvation, Overpopulation, Air polution, Nitrogen buildup blocking out all light, All crude oil gone by 2000, Another ice age, Gobal warming, Climate change... they have been predicting man made doomsdays forever. The Earth is fine. They are always predicting Armageddon to take freedom and liberty from people so that "wise" ones can save us.
Not really. Their problem, not mine. But i don't want people to pollute the earth more because of all the living animals, they don't deserve this destruction. Just look at the pictures of sea turtles or any sea animals with plastic inside their stomach. It's horrible. I don't care about humans. They can live well even with polluted earth.
All of this is more about saving our own asses and future generations rather than 'saving the Earth' in my opinion. Polluted or not, the Earth isn't going anywhere lol. We are.
So while, I'm not preoccupied about 'saving the Earth' or whatever, I try to live responsibly because my parents raised me to be like that and because I feel really sad about the animals paying for our bs.
People say those things to feel better. And they should but the problems are generally bigger and can't be solved by a hand full of people yelling at another hand full of people who aren't the problem. We built a society based on principals meant for a few decades and held on to it for centuries. I am worried about the earth. But as one it's a drop in the ocean and that scares me.
I'm concerned with our government more so than the planet once we're gone for over heal itself and it will start again it's happened that many times once the Earth can take no more Extinction you had your Global killings Ice Age flood we've been this far before and be back here again
We do our part, but we don't become obsessive about it. God made a solar system and the Earth before He made mankind, and included many checks and balances, ie Intelligent Design. . Plants make oxygen from CO2, animals use the oxygen and give off CO2, etc.
Im not convinced this timeline will exist when i die i. e the universe is only 30 years old and will end in approx 40 years from now. From my perspective it’s true so maybe the afterlife if there is one is all time lines or none so future generations or past generations it doesn’t matter to even think about
Honestly i would have to say no as i don't do anything about it but pay it lip service. I very a much aware the effects climate change has on agriculture, immigration, economic, the ecosystem and our health.
Not sure why i am in a state of inaction on the this issues. Maybe a lack of resources or unclear course of action i should. Possibly ever be more focused on my own survival.
I don't believe the Earth will perish within 12 years, and I think most politicians are heavily exaggerating how badly things are becoming, but I absolutely have the earth's health and longevity in mind. I'm very fond of the human race and I'd like to see it prosper. The earth allowed us to do so and will continue to allow us to fo so. The earth is our home, and just like any home, we need to keep it clean.
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