Who was a greater hero - Ian Douglas Smith or Martin Luther King?

[Anonymous]

Ian Douglas Smith - WWII hero, defender of Western Civilization, last Prime Minister of Rhodesia

Martin Luther King - leftist agitator, avowed socialist, serial philanderer

[jakerson181]

Why don't you just stop with your idiotic hero worship of Ian Douglas Smith. You started this shit a few months ago and now you're back for another round. Nobody gives a shit about your racist Rhodesian idol. Can you imagine being so addled that you honestly think the United States should erect statues to this Rhodesian hate mongering assclown?

[Asker]

I didn't do any of this a few months ago. Ian Smith just has a lot of supporters.

* Mr. Smith was a racist?
Wrong! Ian Smith’s government accepted that it was appropriate and inevitable that the government of the country would be predominantly black at some stage in the future.

* Mr. Smith’s government didn’t let Black people vote?
Wrong! Black people under Mr. Smith had access to the vote. There was NEVER any racial criterion for voting rights (unlike South Africa), only a franchise based on income tax and property ownership. Yes, this did mean more Whites than Blacks voted, but many Blacks did vote, and there were at any time up to 16 Black members of Parliament in Mr. Smith’s supposedly “racist” House of Representatives.

* Rhodesia practised apartheid?
Wrong! Rhodesia never adopted any policy even remotely resembling South Africa’s rigid apartheid system. There was never any plan to partition the country between different races (as the South Africans originally envisgaed), and despite pressure from some hard-line Whites, Mr. Smith refused to countenance such an idea.

* Mr. Smith was a fascist?
Wrong! Mr. Smith was a Spitfire pilot during WW2, fighting against the Axis, and was shot down over Italian lines. He escaped from a POW camp, and hiked to safety across mountains in his bare feet. Even his detractors acknowledge his personal bravery and heroism.

* Mr. Smith was a dictator?
Mr. Smith was a man of modest means, who lived in a bungalow, and answered his own telephone and front door. Robert Mugabe, by contrast, has had his whole street blocked, has surrounded his house with razor wire, always travels in a convoy of over a dozen cars, and surrounds himself with machine-gun toting bodyguards. Until going into a nursing home a couple of years ago, Mr. Smith lived alone and unprotected, yet was never harassed or attacked by the supposed “victims of his racist regime”.

Mugabe or Smith – who was more the man of the people? The answer is obvious.

[Asker]

Nobody gives a sh-t about MLK either. Can you imagine being so addled that you honestly think the United States should erect statues to this philandering, plagiarizing assclown?

[jakerson181]

Sure. No one cares. That's why MLK's birthday is a U. S. legal holiday and major streets are named after MLK in cities around the country. Whatever you say, skippy.

[0oGreyo0]

MLK I don't know who that white man is. And he priobaly was a racist.

[Asker]

If you automatically think "RACIST!" when you see a White person, then you yourself are an anti-White racist.

[0oGreyo0]

I never said I wasn't racist.

[Anonymous]

Dr MLK did more for American civilization than any white guy in Africa lol

[Asker]

He did nothing for American civilization, or for the 89% of Americans (at the time) who were White.

[G3tAClue]

He helped give black people there rights, dude. You consider that nothing? Read a book

[Opinion Owner]

He made America way more civilized by promoting civil rights. He is one of the most important civilizing people in America history. Imagine how barbaric the USA would be without the civil rights movement?

[Asker]

@G3tAClue It did nothing for me or for the other 8/9ths of the country that isn't black...

[Asker]

America wouldn't be barbaric without civil rights. Barbarism is when you can't read or write, when you run around in loincloths, when you have no proper religion, stuff like that. America was never uncivilized.

[G3tAClue]

You’re missing the point. And barbarism isn’t just indicated by literacy and religion. It’s in the way the nation treats it’s own people. Segregation was pretty barbaric, wouldn’t you agree? A bunch of men running around in their bed sheets tying black people to trees and setting them on fire is pretty barbaric, right?

Sure, it didn’t directly affect you, but you’re not the center of the universe. What MLK did positively affected millions of people in our nation and that is something to be deeply proud of.

[Asker]

@G3tAClue They weren't really seen as American at the time. Most civilized societies are pretty mean to outgroups. Look at the Romans or the Chinese. Very civilized, but didn't treat outsiders well.

Segregation was not barbaric, it was based on the idea that each group should be able to live on their own, to avoid racial tensions.

Lynchings were usually because the guy who got lynch had committed a crime, and they were usually vigilante justice.

[G3tAClue]

Lol did your racist friends tell you that?

[Asker]

@G3tAClue I am a race realist who has come to my conclusions based on facts and logic, and my experience dealing with "affirmative action recipients" at college.

[Opinion Owner]

Lynching is barbaric, it’s extrajudicial, which is by definition barbaric and not civilized. Slavery is certainly barbaric and the USA has slaves for decades after every other major power stoped because it was barbaric. It was barbaric to discriminate against gay people in the 50s. It was barbaric to destroy black Wall Street in the 1920s in Tulsa... I think you’re just ignorant of history tbh

[Asker]

Tulsa had it coming, and actually Brazil and Cuba abolished slavery in the late 1880s.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh yes, Cuba is a major word power. Right. Yeah after reading your replies, you’re just plain ignorant. I can tell you’re uneducated or poorly educated, which is usually the case for racists. Not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.

[Asker]

I have an IQ of 145 and a college degree

[G3tAClue]

Well, looks like a wasted education to me. And having a high IQ doesn’t make you smart. It means you have the potential to be smart.

[Asker]

@G3tAClue The way the affirmative reaction recipients acted at my school taught me everything I need to know about them.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol, only idiots talk about IQ like it matters.

[Asker]

The average African-American IQ is 85.

[G3tAClue]

Lol you’re so fucking dumb

[Opinion Owner]

Wow you’re dumb. IQ is based around the normal distribution with 100 at the center. So the average is 100 by definition... you have an iq of 145 but don’t even know what it means? It means 145% of the average. Wow... of course the racist is an idiot.

[Asker]

No, look up standard deviations. It means my IQ is 3 standard deviations higher than average.
The Empirical Rule states that almost all data lies within 3 standard deviations of the mean for a normal distribution. Under this rule, 68% of the data falls within one standard deviation. Ninety-five percent of the data lies within two standard deviations. Within three standard deviations is 99.7% of the data.
I'm smarter than 997 out of every 1000 White Europeans, 950 out of every 1000 Ashkenazi Jews, and 999 out of every 1000 Black Americans.

[Opinion Owner]

Lol you’re an idiot

[Opinion Owner]

You do know races are just social constructs right? They aren’t scientific or biologically real. They change depending on the culture and the era, they aren’t real in a physical sense. Just made up.

[G3tAClue]

And also, race wasn’t a thing until WHITE people said it was. Colonialization changed everything that was done by Europeans. They explored, exploited, and enslaved for 100s of years. I took several of colonial history classes in college. It’s amazing what most white propel don’t know about their own history.

[G3tAClue]

People*

[Asker]

Race is a biological reality. Any DNA test can prove that.

[Asker]

@G3tAClue Colonialism was a positive good, and those uppity natives need to be grateful and realize it's the best thing that ever happened to their kind

[G3tAClue]

No it was. It ONLY benefited European white people and no one else. Do you read about history at all. How whites exploited literally everywhere they went, taking resources and giving very little back?

And you’re wrong. Read a fucking book, dude. Race is a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. Before white people came along a fucked everything up for everyone else, other people in the world didn’t have much use for it. There are thousands of primary sources, journals, memoirs, and other accounts that support this. I have a BA in history and spent my career studying this.

[Asker]

@G3tAClue Well, as I am a member of the Anglo-Saxon Race, I naturally like that which is good for my own kind