He wasn't vegan, he advocated vegetarianism. He ate meat occasionally. And he wasn't a socialist either. If he was socialist he would not have been a fascist and he would not have forced a specific religion on people. A requirement of joining the Nazi party, and still is, is that the person has to be Christian. That's not socialist, it's fundamentalist and a theocracy. You're twisting history to meet your own agenda.
He wasn't a fascist, thats a whole separate thing from national socialism. To be a Christian socialist you have to be Christian much like to be an Islamic socialist you have to be a Muslim or an Arab socialist you have to be an Arab. The bath party is a socialist party that wants unified Arab country of all Arab nations and to be in the bath party you have to be a Muslim. According to Arab nationalists socialism was invented by Muhammad.
Fascism is an Italian and Spainish thing. The Nazis were Nationalists and socialists. Sorry if you can't understand the complexities of socialism and the many forms of socialism there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism Definition of fascism 1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality
Christianity was never a "requirement" for joining the NSDAP. Look, I realise you hate Christianity, but your hatred has made you believe things that are just not true. Christianity was actually discouraged, from the very top, and you couldn't make it very far in the party if you were openly Christian.
No, you're wrong. It seems that not only do you know absolutely nothing about Christianity, you also know Jack Shit about fascism as well. Go back to school!
@Yaaten I gave the definition of fascism from webster. com and I never said anything about Christianity, I said being a Christian is a requirement to join the Nazis and KKK. Here is the official KKK pamphlet, it clearly states they are a Christian group: archive.lib.msu.edu/.../...plespurposesknights.pdf
No, you said that a requirement for joining the Nazi Party in Germany was that one had to be a Christian. That was your original claim here, a claim that didn't mention the KKK (an entirely different group altogether).
@Yaaten agreed the kkk were an entirely different movement opposed to African American rights, Mexicans, Spainish, italians, scilians, Greeks, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, catholics, Irish, Polish, Native Americans. Generally didn't like immigrants but I think they were ok with immigrants that were white and prodestant from Britain, Germany and Scandinavia. A white anglo saxon protestant army sized paramilitary wing of the democrat party.
Schools, police, fire dept, roads, military, garbage pickup, city owned water, sewer, electric companies, welfare and insurance companies... all socialist... yet we call our economy captialism... so whats your point?
None of which are socialist and all paid for by taxation of peoples earnings which doesn't happen in a non-capitalist soceity where everything is government owned and payment is doled out in equal amounts regardless of merit and competition
So how come the schools in the burbs are nice and new and the ones in the city are shitty? Is that the merit and competition being doled out you are talking about
Hitler was also an environmentalist- he would have heartily approved of the corporatism and statism of the Green New Deal. Corporatism was what his regime was all about, just like today's (technocratic) left.
Hitler was a communist not a socialist. Ther is a very big difference. Though both socialism and communism are regarded as left wing systems of politics.
Oh sure, and that's why he decided to invade the USSR, and clearly stated on more than one occasion (especially in his book 'Mein Kampf') that he was "saving" the world from Judeo-Bolshevism. Yeah, such a committed communist he was. The comments here from right-wing idiots are just SO shockingly ignorant, so utterly moronic. Did you people learn ANYTHING in school?
What Adolf did was atrocious but the things he did are emulated by SJW's & vegans on a larger scale and within their warped hypocritical minds can't see the similarities between them and him and his thought process.
You have forgot to mention that Adolf was homo or bi-sexual. Eva Braun was just alibi girlfriend, his big love was Rudolf Speer. The only thing that differs him from SJWs is that he hated different minority than they do.
Fascism is right wing on social issues and centrist on economic issues.
They believe in state capitalism.
But nevertheless, pure socialism is idiotic and doesn't work.
It sounds good in theory, but fails in practice.
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You can't call yourself "white king" and then compare SJWs to Hitler. Redpill yourself on Cultural Marxism and WW2 and you'll see why this is cringe-worthy.
He also encouraged rebellions in the Middle East. The Japanese portrayed themselves as the liberators of all people of color, so the Nation of Islam supported them and did everything to hinder the war effort.
Fascism was not, nor IS not, limited to a specific country or area. Fascism involves exalting nation AND RACE above ALL others, which is what Hitler did. You are trying to foster an associative link between Hitler's actions and lefties, or liberals, in the USA, by using the word "socialist", or "socialism", to instill fear and hate. This is "easy meat" for the right wing, because the words scare people.
What the "masses" don't realize is the USA is already full of programs that are socialist in nature and they benefit from them. Many programs are good and beneficial, some need serious overhauling. As with any program, there is always a percentage of people who find loop holes and ways to take advantage of them, but you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
I’m aware. I’m clarifying it, as different forms of socialism belong to different wings of governance. Like democratic socialism is on the left, national socialism is on the right etc
Democratic socialism is supposed to be on the left but finds itself in the centre supporting the status quo. Ie millionaire Democratic socialists like Elizabeth Warren and bernie sanders
The whole discussion is about Hitler, how does him being a socialist prove that he was one. He was a Nazi. Nazism is right sing. Socialism is left wing.
The Nazis were most certainly socialists economically. They were social conservatives as well because they held to a form of fascism. Nazism and fascism are not the same thing either. Jury is still out in my mind if they were left wing or right wing. One thing is for certain. They were obsessed with race and nobody is more obsessed with race than left wingers.
@Exterminatore They were extremely anti socialist in economic matters. The Nazi rule was a great time to run a business. The jury still being out in your mind doesn't mean it is actually out on that subject. I fo agree that Nazism and fascism are not interchangeable, but they are similar having grown up at the same time and both being far. to the right of centrist.
That is profoundly untrue. They’re were in fact extremely socialist.
Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist. He stated not long before his death that was and will always be a socialist. Socialism tends to be the preferred economic system of fascists.
Hitler copied much of the economic model and installed it in Germany.
Nazi - national socialist.
Fascism is not similar to Nazism. All those nonsensical theories about the master race are all parts of Nazism alone. Mussolini rejected those things. It was the Nazis after gaining control of Italy that deported Jews to be murdered, not the Italian fascists. In fact close to 1/3rd of Italy’s Jewish population was fascist prior to WW 2.
Spain under Franco was fascist. No master race theories there. The Nazis seem to have taken fascism and injected Nazism into it. The elements you see that make them seem similar is the fascist roots, but that’s the only similarities.
@Exterminatore You really shouldn't presume to lecture someone with a BA in history on history. I am well aware what the Nazi party called itself. Yet bv what you call yourself and what you are don't necessarily need to match. The only separation between Nazism and Fascism was the master race and hatred of Jews. Socialism doesn't allow the rapid growth of industry seen in Germany under Hitler. Now a case can be made that if Fascism allowed for such growth, why was the growth absent initially and Spain. Quite simple. Spain and Italy did not have the capacity for industrial growth that Germany had.
Because you have that degree means your smarter or better educated? What makes you think I don’t have the same credentials?
Germany had more of a 3rd position economy. They married state and corporate power. They were socialists.
The growth was initially absent in Spain due to the Civil War there which lasted 1936-1939. The economy was decimated after the war.
If you notice, many in Spain and Italy respectively remember both Franco and Mussolini with fondness and feel times were better when they were in charge.
In any case that is your reason for the rapid growth in Germany and combined with the fact they were busy building a massive amount of armaments all while violating the treaty of Versailles. That created a lot of jobs and moved a lot of money around.
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He wasn't vegan, he advocated vegetarianism. He ate meat occasionally. And he wasn't a socialist either. If he was socialist he would not have been a fascist and he would not have forced a specific religion on people. A requirement of joining the Nazi party, and still is, is that the person has to be Christian. That's not socialist, it's fundamentalist and a theocracy.
You're twisting history to meet your own agenda.
He wasn't a fascist, thats a whole separate thing from national socialism. To be a Christian socialist you have to be Christian much like to be an Islamic socialist you have to be a Muslim or an Arab socialist you have to be an Arab. The bath party is a socialist party that wants unified Arab country of all Arab nations and to be in the bath party you have to be a Muslim. According to Arab nationalists socialism was invented by Muhammad.
He wasn't a fascist? How retarded are you. I stopped reading after that.
Fascism is an Italian and Spainish thing. The Nazis were Nationalists and socialists. Sorry if you can't understand the complexities of socialism and the many forms of socialism there is.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
Definition of fascism
1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
Christianity was never a "requirement" for joining the NSDAP. Look, I realise you hate Christianity, but your hatred has made you believe things that are just not true. Christianity was actually discouraged, from the very top, and you couldn't make it very far in the party if you were openly Christian.
@Yaaten what a f@g answer. The Nazis have always required people to be Christians just like the KKK requires it.
No, you're wrong. It seems that not only do you know absolutely nothing about Christianity, you also know Jack Shit about fascism as well. Go back to school!
@Yaaten I gave the definition of fascism from webster. com and I never said anything about Christianity, I said being a Christian is a requirement to join the Nazis and KKK. Here is the official KKK pamphlet, it clearly states they are a Christian group: archive.lib.msu.edu/.../...plespurposesknights.pdf
Not necessarily. The nazis were also big into paganism like Odin etc. All those germanic Nordic Gods
No, you said that a requirement for joining the Nazi Party in Germany was that one had to be a Christian. That was your original claim here, a claim that didn't mention the KKK (an entirely different group altogether).
@Yaaten agreed the kkk were an entirely different movement opposed to African American rights, Mexicans, Spainish, italians, scilians, Greeks, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, catholics, Irish, Polish, Native Americans. Generally didn't like immigrants but I think they were ok with immigrants that were white and prodestant from Britain, Germany and Scandinavia. A white anglo saxon protestant army sized paramilitary wing of the democrat party.
Yes, when the Democratic Party was a far-right party that was very similar to the Republicans of today (i. e. fascistic, reactionary, and racist).
@Yaaten I gave you proof of the KKK requirements and I have you proof of the definition of fascism.
I gave you proof of the KKK requirements and I have you proof of the definition of fascism.
Appears to be more of an ignorant uneducated opinion rather than proof.🤔
Schools, police, fire dept, roads, military, garbage pickup, city owned water, sewer, electric companies, welfare and insurance companies... all socialist... yet we call our economy captialism... so whats your point?
None of which are socialist and all paid for by taxation of peoples earnings which doesn't happen in a non-capitalist soceity where everything is government owned and payment is doled out in equal amounts regardless of merit and competition
Govt owned? Why why thats communism.
So how come the schools in the burbs are nice and new and the ones in the city are shitty? Is that the merit and competition being doled out you are talking about
Again in the suburbs parents care about the local school and its funded through local tax and community work.
So what the dept of education for?
Hitler was also an environmentalist- he would have heartily approved of the corporatism and statism of the Green New Deal. Corporatism was what his regime was all about, just like today's (technocratic) left.
He also loved dogs. Would you therefore associate that attribute with his more evil propensities as well?
Agreed. Hitler was also an animal rights activist.
Hitler was a communist not a socialist. Ther is a very big difference. Though both socialism and communism are regarded as left wing systems of politics.
Oh sure, and that's why he decided to invade the USSR, and clearly stated on more than one occasion (especially in his book 'Mein Kampf') that he was "saving" the world from Judeo-Bolshevism. Yeah, such a committed communist he was.
The comments here from right-wing idiots are just SO shockingly ignorant, so utterly moronic. Did you people learn ANYTHING in school?
Hitler's horrific actions had also very little to do with the fact that he was a communist but more to do with the fact that he was a fascist.
But yes, the question is very provocative I realise that. Don't allow your emotions to be stirred @Yaaten
What Adolf did was atrocious but the things he did are emulated by SJW's & vegans on a larger scale and within their warped hypocritical minds can't see the similarities between them and him and his thought process.
Socialists? Never.
Vegeterian, yes.
Even though its not as surprising as it is now, since everyone was eating way less meat back than.
You have forgot to mention that Adolf was homo or bi-sexual.
Eva Braun was just alibi girlfriend, his big love was Rudolf Speer.
The only thing that differs him from SJWs is that he hated different minority than they do.
Fascism is right wing on social issues and centrist on economic issues.
They believe in state capitalism.
But nevertheless, pure socialism is idiotic and doesn't work.
It sounds good in theory, but fails in practice.
You can't call yourself "white king" and then compare SJWs to Hitler. Redpill yourself on Cultural Marxism and WW2 and you'll see why this is cringe-worthy.
how can you deny that Hitler was a socialist? i mean "NAZI" litterally means "national-SOCIALIST"
i didn't know he was a vegan and i don't know if that's true or not. in either case: i don't think that matters anyway.
How can you deny that North Korea is democratic? I mean, the DPRK literally (not "litterally") means Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
@Yaaten I mean what part of having a bloodline government is "democratic" exactly? XD
He also encouraged rebellions in the Middle East. The Japanese portrayed themselves as the liberators of all people of color, so the Nation of Islam supported them and did everything to hinder the war effort.
Because there are plenty of Jews who are left leaning, vegans and socialists.
Doesn't mean they support Hitler too, numb nut.
I hate soy. I love beef and fish. Maybe that’s why I don’t consider myself left or right.
Hitler wasn't a Socialist, he was a Fascist and a satanist. Why do you like to pimp the "left" when the "right" is equally whacked?
Fascism was a Italian and Spanish thing. Hitler was a National socialist.
Fascism was not, nor IS not, limited to a specific country or area. Fascism involves exalting nation AND RACE above ALL others, which is what Hitler did. You are trying to foster an associative link between Hitler's actions and lefties, or liberals, in the USA, by using the word "socialist", or "socialism", to instill fear and hate. This is "easy meat" for the right wing, because the words scare people.
What the "masses" don't realize is the USA is already full of programs that are socialist in nature and they benefit from them. Many programs are good and beneficial, some need serious overhauling. As with any program, there is always a percentage of people who find loop holes and ways to take advantage of them, but you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
"Socialist Sadam Hussain has entered the chat"
Pull up a chair, Mr. Cohn
Welcome to the part Mr Assad
Why does any of this matter, and what does eating soy have to do with anything?
National socialist, to clarify
There are many forms of socialism.
I’m aware. I’m clarifying it, as different forms of socialism belong to different wings of governance. Like democratic socialism is on the left, national socialism is on the right etc
Democratic socialism is supposed to be on the left but finds itself in the centre supporting the status quo. Ie millionaire Democratic socialists like Elizabeth Warren and bernie sanders
Doesn’t much matter honestly. Politics generates a lot of money for those with power and sway over a large swath of the land.
He wasn't a socialist. Nazism is one of the most extreme right wing ideologies
Many forms of socialism. Even Sadam Hussain and Assad with their bath parties are socialists.
You can't be socialist and right wing.
Because it problematic for you? Sadam Hussain and Hitler proves otherwise.
The whole discussion is about Hitler, how does him being a socialist prove that he was one. He was a Nazi. Nazism is right sing. Socialism is left wing.
All kinds of socialism including ethnic socialism like Arab-socialism or religious socialism
Okay, I get it, you don't know the definition of socialism.
@Twalli
The Nazis were most certainly socialists economically. They were social conservatives as well because they held to a form of fascism. Nazism and fascism are not the same thing either. Jury is still out in my mind if they were left wing or right wing. One thing is for certain. They were obsessed with race and nobody is more obsessed with race than left wingers.
@Exterminatore They were extremely anti socialist in economic matters. The Nazi rule was a great time to run a business. The jury still being out in your mind doesn't mean it is actually out on that subject. I fo agree that Nazism and fascism are not interchangeable, but they are similar having grown up at the same time and both being far. to the right of centrist.
@Twalli
That is profoundly untrue. They’re were in fact extremely socialist.
Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist. He stated not long before his death that was and will always be a socialist. Socialism tends to be the preferred economic system of fascists.
Hitler copied much of the economic model and installed it in Germany.
Nazi - national socialist.
Fascism is not similar to Nazism. All those nonsensical theories about the master race are all parts of Nazism alone. Mussolini rejected those things. It was the Nazis after gaining control of Italy that deported Jews to be murdered, not the Italian fascists. In fact close to 1/3rd of Italy’s Jewish population was fascist prior to WW 2.
Spain under Franco was fascist. No master race theories there. The Nazis seem to have taken fascism and injected Nazism into it. The elements you see that make them seem similar is the fascist roots, but that’s the only similarities.
@Exterminatore You really shouldn't presume to lecture someone with a BA in history on history. I am well aware what the Nazi party called itself. Yet bv what you call yourself and what you are don't necessarily need to match. The only separation between Nazism and Fascism was the master race and hatred of Jews. Socialism doesn't allow the rapid growth of industry seen in Germany under Hitler. Now a case can be made that if Fascism allowed for such growth, why was the growth absent initially and Spain. Quite simple. Spain and Italy did not have the capacity for industrial growth that Germany had.
Because you have that degree means your smarter or better educated? What makes you think I don’t have the same credentials?
Germany had more of a 3rd position economy. They married state and corporate power. They were socialists.
The growth was initially absent in Spain due to the Civil War there which lasted 1936-1939. The economy was decimated after the war.
If you notice, many in Spain and Italy respectively remember both Franco and Mussolini with fondness and feel times were better when they were in charge.
In any case that is your reason for the rapid growth in Germany and combined with the fact they were busy building a massive amount of armaments all while violating the treaty of Versailles. That created a lot of jobs and moved a lot of money around.
@Exterminatore that would be true if their companies that ifrned during that time were not still strong today
Hitler was vege no vegan,,,
What does SJW mean please?,,,
He wasn’t socialist. He admitted to using the name to gain popularity with the working class.