Are you for or against Harvard wanting to strip conservatives of their degree?

[virtue2332]

Thats the stupidest thing I ever heard has to be for the views. We all know that degrees only matter if you are working for someone else. Even then its still a crapshoot. I've met people with multiple degrees that lacked the common sense for their degrees to even matter. We all hear about the drop outs that go on to do incredible things. All that matters in life is what people are capable of and how they respond to real situations not what a paper says they are capable of under simulated situations

[Yaaten]

If this is actually happening, then all it proves is that Harvard is now allowing complete idiots to enrol, and if that's the case then their degrees aren't worth anything anyway. May as well use them as dunny paper.

[Anonymous]

When I saw this question, I was really hoping you were joking.

Just when you thought the retarded left could not get anymore retarded...
Criminals are good
Cops are bad
Burning down innocent businesses is peaceful protesting

I don't see how there's not going to be a civil war on the horizon.

A just think, Dementia Joe hasn't even taken over yet.

[CMC93]

That thinking is extremely childish. It's like we are in grade school again.

I think Covid happening just fueled the fire, so they are all looking for somewhere to dump their aggression out.

[markml]

Besides "honorary degrees", it's an outrage to strip anyone of a degree they actually earned.

I don't care if it's Adolf Hitler himself that we are talking about.

This people paid tuition to Harvard (not cheap), met all the requirements Harvard told them they have to fulfill to get the degree, and thus earned their degree. I seriously doubt there was a clause in their admission letter that said, "We reserve the right to revoke your degree if you behave like an asshole after you graduate."

So if Harvard were to try to revoke the degree, then Harvard would be liable for committing fraud. I can't see anyway this would be legal. At bare minimum, they would have to pay these people their tuition dollars back with interest. But they could argue that there was also immeasurable damage done to them by choosing Harvard, when another college may not have revoked their degree.

It's a basic legal principle that you can't change a contract without agreement of all parties of the contract. You would think the kids going to Harvard these days would be smart enough to realize that.

The legal situation is different for "honorary degrees" because they are bestowed as an honor, and thus the recipient has little claim that they are owed anything. The most that the recipient has to do as "payment" is to show up and accept the "honorary degree", and it's unlikely that any court would find this to be a significant cost or burden. And I would not be surprised if "honorary degrees" did come with a clause stating that the degree could be revoked if the recipient did not demonstrate moral standing and behavior.

But if we're talking about a regular degree, it is very unfair to revoke that for anything other than if the recipient committed fraud to get the degree. If the recipient committed fraud, that would nullify the contract between the student and the university. Other than that, the university must fulfill its obligations.

Now, I suppose if they wanted to be nasty, they could add an asterisk to the alumni's transcript or any records of their graduation, to say that after the degree was earned, the recipient behaved in ways that are unfitting of a Harvard gentleman. But they can't just pretend the recipient never earned the degree.

[Anonymous]

I'd be for it, but I don't see how it would happen if it's a degree they paid for. Although, apparently, there is precedent for it. (see below) If private institutions hold this power in their bylaws or what not, then conservatives should have no issue with it. Aren't they usually big on private companies deciding how to run their own businesses the way they see fit? If they support church's and businesses violating peoples rights, and very little if any business regulation in general, they should have no issue with Harvard going about its business this way if they choose to. Otherwise, you're hypocrites and crybabies.

"The petition argues that a Harvard degree is 'a privilege, not a right' and therefore no one is entitled to keep their degree if they violate certain laws and societal norms. Some supporters of the effort have cited Harvard’s decision in 2010 to revoke a degree from a Russian spy, Andrey Bezrukov, as setting a precedent for revoking degrees from Trump associates."

I read an article about it and it's not just new students signing the petition - it's older alumni as well. Who wants their school to be associated with idiots and threats to what democracy we do have? I don't blame them.

[masonova1]

This is the dumbest lib shit I have ever heard. I've half a mind to think this is controlled opposition, this is so stupid. I really hope that Harvard doesn't set that precedent.

Good thing they aren't, that this was never really considered by any Harvard officials, that nobody can confirm the validity of the petition (which was an anonymously made google form that we're not even sure was made by Harvard students), and that Fox news is dumb as hell.

https://www snopes com/fact-check/harvard-degrees-trump/

[Goforit1010]

Am I for stripping conservatives of their Harvard degrees? Hell NO!

The incoming classes at Harvard need to pull their collective heads out of their rears for thinking that! What does the 1st Ammendment say about free speech? Are these young idiots thinking that Harvard graduates are ONLY allowed to back liberal ideas? Whatever happened to the idea that colleges were a place where the open exchange of ideas took place? I guess they think unless you think liberalism and Socialist/communism, you don't deserve a degree from Harvard?

If that's the case, Boston College should pull the 2 degrees that AOC has, because she's proved just how STUPID she is by her comments on economics - one of the degrees she holds.

[darkcloud1945]

This is all Democratic Communist Party bullshit why not remove Harvard s ability to teach this crap. The education you are getting is equal to a first grader nothing on how to to work in the field they want to work in. Thousands of dollars paid to learn how to hate and lie great for the work place got a 4.0 in lying and hate education how blame others for their stupidity.. They want to strip people who earned their degrees and actually learned and earned their degrees
Impeach lying Adderall Joe ad Family wrecker Harris

[BeMuse]

That’s up to their institution. If they want to be seen as a huge joke with absolutely no credibility, then they can play games like that in regards to who is granted a degree. They could also start putting their degrees in cereal boxes with plastic decoder rings. That fact that it is even a consideration makes their institution laughable. They are officially a kangaroo college.

[loveslongnails]

Only if it's an Honorary degree. You didn't really "earn" it in the first place, so it's more like having a sponsorship. The institution was getting something out of it as well by attaching your name to it. If and when they believe it's not beneficial to them any longer, or they don't want your name associated with them, I'm fine with them removing it. You don't have a contract for ownership of that degree.

If you earned a degree somewhere, I don't believe it should be taken from you. If the institution wants to censure, denounce or declare you a "persona non grata", they are certainly free to do that.

[bolverk]

If Harvard try to strip degree that were earned through hard work and study then they had best be ready to defend themselves in court as those affected turn round and sue them for the cost of the degree courses at CURRENT PRICES, and as I doubt that those that they are going try to strip of their degrees will do it as a class action, Harvard will face each as a separate case with the bad publicity that each case will generate going on for years

[SuccessfulHornDog]

How exactly would this work? Would they refund their tuition with interest? In that case many conservatives would probably welcome it. I am sure that they would counter sue and bleed harvard dry with legal costs as well.

Yes, I am for this. Please proceed Harvard and show the world what kind of school you are.

[DWornock]

It would have very little effect. Assuming they could be identified, except for recent graduates, most already have jobs and it is unlikely, at this late date, the employers and licencing agencies are going to check their degrees again. And, even if they did, they have their diplomas and college transcripts.

[ChefPapiChulo]

People are pissed off on the attack on our democracy by Trump and his mob. He's not a lone wolf, Trump was encouraged by his cabinet and congress. Obviously its not going to happen, its mostly an empty threat. People are willing to fight for democracy, and I dont mean trump supporters.

[John_Doesnt]

Ted Cruz is a spineless douche. Even after Donald called his wife names, ol' Ted still supports the Orange man. Why? Because he believes in party over country.
Texas needs to vote him out.

[1031ent]

I wod double check anything reported by fox news. They regularly try to scare their audience with fear monheeing tactics.

Probably just a student on campus passing it around doing there things, but it's report like the University is behind it.

[najekim]

Well, if it was a Honorable Degree that is their right to do so. But if they went to school there and earned their degree, hell no!

IMHO, colleges and universities should be politically neutral. They are there to provide education to the students so they can make up their own minds, not spout politics.

[Miristheiss]

What the hell?
If you earn a degree... you earn a degree.
You can't just "remove" a degree because you do not like the party someone votes for.

Anyone who thinks this way is just evil.

[CaptainSmartass]

I'm dead set against it. If they earned their degrees, then all that work would be for nothing. And I very firmly believe that hard work should always be rewarded, and such rewards should be inalienable.

Students and universities are getting far too political for my liking. #Time'sUp

Simples...

[CapitalismFailed]

I'm all for holding people accountable but I don't think this is the way to do it. Cruz should be expelled from the Senate and barred from ever holding public office, including dog catcher.

Kayleigh McEnany will be lucky to get a job at Faux News.

[jshm2]

Only if these were "honorary degrees". Otherwise it would be theft to have taken their money for the courses and issued them, only to withdraw them later.

[Bananaman177]

I want them to keep pushing and pushing and pushing Conservatives until they finally snap and push back.

And if Conservatives are too chickenshit to push back, then I want them to be destroyed.

[zagor]

Not going to happen. Harvard would get their ass sued. Now revoking honorary degrees would be fine, but a degree earned and paid for, no.

[Anonymous]

We're heading towards communism, this is what they do. They destroy any opposition. Soon it will become illegal to be conservative as we move further and further left and as they become more and more totalitarian. It's coming. You'll see.

[Anonymous]

What's funny about it is that will largely destroy the universities. They're quickly turning themselves into propagandistic "re-education" camps rather than institutions of higher learning.

[888theGreat]

They can take back honorary degrees not degrees that they earned. I would tell them to take it back, rotate it, and stick it up their ass.

[Snakeyes7]

That's horrible. Regardless of their beliefs, they were able to pass their classes and get the degree.

[OddBeMe]

Not sure that’s a thing. If it’s a honorific degree, maybe...
But I hate those vote suppressing cuckservatives

[Robbey]

They can petition all they want. I don't see Harvard doing it.

[Prettygurl12]

They're virtue signaling 🙄 but there's no actual virtue here.

[Anonymous]

Can we start a petition demoting Harvard as a "top school" and instead as a totalitarianistic, propagandist, assembly line? Its pretty cool that they suppress free thought because it hurts their little feelings.

[Guanfei]

Yeah, the US is absolutely not becoming a fascist society :)

[msc545]

They earned their degrees. The school cannot revoke them because they don't like their behavior.

[BCRanger10]

Well, when these kids graduate, we know that McDonald's will be fully staffed.

[disgustingweebtrash]

How can you strip them of degrees when they have earned them? Political affiliation doesn't remove your education.

[Anonymous]

That's liberals showing their true self. Utterly ridiculous and pathetic.

[Anonymous]

I could see some republicans going to harvard but trump supporters? Most that lot barely scraped past kindergarten.

[Avicenna]

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. Very bad idea.

[Jamie05rhs]

If Harvard does this, then they will be on my permanent blacklist. And I am never, ever going to hire any alumnus of Harvard to work for my company.

[goaded]

Did they earn the degrees, or were they honorary? The former, they should keep, the latter, not so much.

[Anonymous]

Things must be going well when supposedly impartial educational meritocratic institutions want to revoke degrees from people who passed all their tests. Surely, that's purely about merit and not politically charged retardation.

[yofuknutz]

You see this this is proof that college is a joke that is sad of all places Harvard trying to stunt like this

[Anonymous]

I think we should strip everyone of every accomplishment because nothing means anything in this fucked up world anymore.

[Meldrum]

Certain "Conservatives" are neither conservative nor patriots. People like Cruz should be stripped of his seat in Congress as well as his degree because he tried to overthrow our government.

[joeldalton]

We can be assured that the lunatics on the left support this.

[Shuttlebus78]

No you should never strip someone’s education that they paid for and worked for just because of political affiliation.

[Jersey2]

It’s just more cancel culture from the Left towards anyone who they disagree with.

[cloud9vortex1234]

No, because they earned it. How would that be legal? I wouldn't sign it.

[emilym12345]

I'm not a conservative buuut, it's messed up. They earned their degree... it's wrong.

[jimmy2]

89 to 11 % what do you think

[supercutebutt]

Strip them ASAP. :)
Trumptards suck ballz.

[Iron_Man]

Against It’s just not right

[Anonymous]

that's retarded

[ClassyMe]

Highly disagree

[JohnO45]

I really don't care what happens to a millionaire.

[Anonymous]

Nothing but hatefulness coming from these people

[Not_Average]

How ridiculous lol

[Anonymous]

That's stupid I don't see how they could do that