As a conservative I believe that people deserve the right to decide for themselves, but I also believe that they should be responsible for the consequences of their decisions. That means that they would need to procure health care on their own or through employment.
My keyword in this question is: serious. I would not want to burden my child/children with a severe disadvantage. There's always an option for adoption. I would not go as far as not to allow it (that's a totalitarian tendency), but to strongly discourage it in the interest of everyone can be justified.
That's not even how natural selection works. If people don't want to reproduce with them, then they shouldn't. But they should not be artificially prohibited from doing so.
One person's disability is often another's advantage, random genetic mutations are required to have advantages pop up. And humans are too ignorant about genetics to be thoughtfully directing every bit of gene expression right now (this would also ruin genetic diversity). being genetically prone to cancer for example, would also mean being genetically prone to rapid healing from injuries in many cases. And it may hold the key to limb regrowth.
This is going to rub people the wrong way but all I'm saying is there are a lot of children out there who need loving parents these people instead of conceiving could care for one of them and instead of sending labour and capital towards finding cures we could send it towards development and education
Hmm, well I have bipolar, adhd and an anxiety disorder, and I personally don't plan on having kids, 1. I don't want the stress, 2. I dont want to pass on mental illness. I've thought about this before, and not sure where I stand, on one hand if everyone with a mental illness were sterilized, or just chose to not have kids, mental illness could be almost eradicated, but on the other hand I feel that everyone deserves the natural right to have kids of their own, if that makes them happy.
Only one person in my family had ovarian cancer that was my grandmothers mother! All her daughters (now dead from old age) never got ovarian cancer and they all lived into their mid to late 90s. My grandma is 92 never got it either!
That's for the individual person and couple to decide. Who the fuck knows what the future holds. Maybe that condition will be as manageable as asthma with an inhaler or eye sight corrected by glasses that is a fundamental reality with children today.
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You know unless the doctor tells you the condition can be inherited then your offspring is fine and WHO ARE YOU TO PLAY GOD SAYING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES can't HAVE CHILDREN, I Have Dyslexia and mine are perfectly normal, You should be ashamed of yourself for asking this stupid question.
I have some genetic-caused health issues (prefer not to go into) and so earlier in my 20s i'm very happy deciding even then that i don't want kids. Ever. Not even as a godparent. Nope no thank you. 😋😋😊
That depends on what they can bring to the genetic table. If a person has diabetes but an IQ over 130 then the second thing outweighs the first as a contribution to the gene pool.
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Only in the sense if their disabilities mean they cannot take care of their children. Inheritability is a risk not a guarantee of passing it on. But only morally wrong, I don't mean they should be made infertile or something.
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As a conservative I believe that people deserve the right to decide for themselves, but I also believe that they should be responsible for the consequences of their decisions. That means that they would need to procure health care on their own or through employment.
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My keyword in this question is: serious.
I would not want to burden my child/children with a severe disadvantage.
There's always an option for adoption.
I would not go as far as not to allow it (that's a totalitarian tendency), but to strongly discourage it in the interest of everyone can be justified.
That's not even how natural selection works. If people don't want to reproduce with them, then they shouldn't. But they should not be artificially prohibited from doing so.
A lot of people think too much of their own wants. What about the children that might end up having these disabilities?
Yeah, sure, they'll get used to it. But why are you for bringing more human suffering into the world?
One person's disability is often another's advantage, random genetic mutations are required to have advantages pop up. And humans are too ignorant about genetics to be thoughtfully directing every bit of gene expression right now (this would also ruin genetic diversity). being genetically prone to cancer for example, would also mean being genetically prone to rapid healing from injuries in many cases. And it may hold the key to limb regrowth.
This is going to rub people the wrong way but all I'm saying is there are a lot of children out there who need loving parents these people instead of conceiving could care for one of them and instead of sending labour and capital towards finding cures we could send it towards development and education
Hmm, well I have bipolar, adhd and an anxiety disorder, and I personally don't plan on having kids, 1. I don't want the stress, 2. I dont want to pass on mental illness. I've thought about this before, and not sure where I stand, on one hand if everyone with a mental illness were sterilized, or just chose to not have kids, mental illness could be almost eradicated, but on the other hand I feel that everyone deserves the natural right to have kids of their own, if that makes them happy.
Only one person in my family had ovarian cancer that was my grandmothers mother! All her daughters (now dead from old age) never got ovarian cancer and they all lived into their mid to late 90s. My grandma is 92 never got it either!
sound like strong Stock People
@yofuknutz we live to an old age in my family mom and dads side tbh
That's for the individual person and couple to decide. Who the fuck knows what the future holds. Maybe that condition will be as manageable as asthma with an inhaler or eye sight corrected by glasses that is a fundamental reality with children today.
You know unless the doctor tells you the condition can be inherited then your offspring is fine and WHO ARE YOU TO PLAY GOD SAYING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES can't HAVE CHILDREN, I Have Dyslexia and mine are perfectly normal, You should be ashamed of yourself for asking this stupid question.
Holy shit its from the political compass test question. Its not my statement.
@charlyquinn_ I agree my mom has health issues and I am healthy!
I have some genetic-caused health issues (prefer not to go into) and so earlier in my 20s i'm very happy deciding even then that i don't want kids. Ever. Not even as a godparent. Nope no thank you. 😋😋😊
That depends on what they can bring to the genetic table. If a person has diabetes but an IQ over 130 then the second thing outweighs the first as a contribution to the gene pool.
Only in the sense if their disabilities mean they cannot take care of their children. Inheritability is a risk not a guarantee of passing it on. But only morally wrong, I don't mean they should be made infertile or something.
Good point.
Why should people be encouraged or allowed to willingly become strenuous burdens own society or should their children be?
I don't trust the government to enforce this but I actually strongly agree with that statement.
Why should we pass down shitty things *KNOWINGLY* to our children? That seems malicious.
Yeah, honestly
Unless you want to explain why them having children (and most likely causing their children to be in a lot of pain) is a good thing...
I mean severe mental disabilities got trump millions of votes so maybe I agree
Lol..
Depends on the person and the disability. Many can be mitigated or cured these days.
By the time most people develop cancer, they're already past the age of reproduction, anyway.
I understand the logic behind it, but it's morally messed up. Nobody should be able to dictate your right to reproduce.
Disagree.. Because "Who makes them, can keep them". It is everyones own choice and it is their responsibility, not yours.
I think you should have a choice. I chose to not reproduce because I am almost guaranteed to pass down my ASD.