Do you think war with China, a common enemy to everyone, would be the best way for Americans and other Westerners to come together and unite?

[MCheetah]

I just made a point in a question before that throughout history, war and a common enemy have been the strongest way to unite people in times of civil disagreement. In 2001, 9/11 united America briefly for a few years. Do you think a war with dangerous communist China would be the best thing for America and uniting the country?

I think it would unite Americans. Make no mistake; many in the US (mainly, on the left) are turncoats and traitors and directly working with China, like Activision-Blizzard and the NBA, but I think even those on the left would not tolerate traitors trying to kill them in the name of Communism. I think it would make rational liberals step away from Progressive Communists, and bring us all closer together. Basically, "If you want to protect Communist China, you'll share their same fate."

I don't LIKE that it would bring us together, but as I said, humans are tribalistic and stupid and usually need a common enemy before they can unite with each other. Especially after ten years of evil billionaires and the media intentionally tearing us apart. Better that enemy be Communist scum than each other.

War with China likely wouldn't even be traditional army war, anyway. It would be intellectual and financial war. But I'm 100% all for finally teaching these red Commie bastards a lesson.

https://www.boldbusiness.com/society/new-art-war-china/

Yes, war with communist China would bring us together.

No, war would drive us further apart.

Other.

[razelove]

It could go either way depending on who the antagonist is within a narrative that is easy to understand. Say we get attacked first by a ballistic missile that we can point at as coming from China, unite, if Biden tried some fumble fingered play to invade, oh boy, we'd be fucking ourselves before China even got the chance.

Covid still leaves many questions in the air about how it originated, and none about where it originated, yet no one pursued any punitive or preventative measures against China because it isn't the first time there has been an outbreak of the SARs virus type. It isn't something we can frame easily.

People are simple, and need simple explanations. It's why there are still people who have conspiracies about the WTC attack, explaining fuel and oxidizers melting metal is complex, so the simple explanation is it has to be someone else.

You can't frame up a virus easily, cyber attack, or trade war. Even if an a first strike needs to be invented, it needs to be simple.

[MCheetah]

China has openly stated to hate America and the entire Western world. They don't hide this, at all.
They steal intellectual property from all over the world.

They screw Western businesses left and right by stealing the property or hardware, then kicking them out of China, not that these businesses 100% don't deserve it (like Space X).

They've invaded Hong Kong, which the UK and US swore to protect. They have invaded Taiwan borders and are now invading Philippines waters. They have invaded India's border and tried to take it over.

Anyone with half a brain around the world knows how dangerous China is. And contrary to what some people believe, Russia is NOT an ally with China, because Putin knows China will go after them, next. Russia is just trying not to rock the boat right now, because their economy is still kinda crap.

A smart US president would've sided with Russia to intimidate China, but no one has. Neither Trump or Biden could be successful with launching "first blood" against China, even if it's the SMART thing to do against an enemy telling you they hate you. However, either one could've done what China has been doing to smaller countries: give them an ultimatum. "Back down or be destroyed." Then, the US would've been 100% supported by the rest of the world to go to war with China.

Everyone here are just being complete pussies, including China which is nothing more than the world's bully. In more peaceful times, the US could've handled China. But not after Trump and Biden's administrations have caused us to lose favor with the world.

[razelove]

Yeah, and they're going to keep being pussies. I agree that we should be allies with Russia, and take a stronger stand. If for nothing else to provide that opportunity where we are the target of aggression. Alliances don't mean shit anymore. If France attacked the UK, no one would step in. We sanctioned the crap out of Russia, but they are recovering financially, and creating their own internal systems for finance independent of any outside reliance.

Don't expect people to suddenly recognize objective facts, or politicians to act in our best interest. We were prepared to let the Nazis take over Europe until Pearl Harbor was bombed, and we had bigger balls then.

[MCheetah]

Damn, sad but true.

[razelove]

I wish it wasn't true either man. It isn't like I hunger for war, but a battle can sometimes prevent one. If any country, let's forget about China for the moment, any country finds that it can simply invade and absorb it's neighbors and their allies and the UN does NOTHING, are they likely to stop, or see how far they can push the envelope there? In the case of China, they do think long term, unlike us still letting terrorists hold cities because it would be impolite to kick them out. If they can grab 4 countries now, they'll hold them and stabilize them to Chinese culture, then next generation when we have less people, and less balls, grab 8.

[Curmudgeon]

It already *is* a Cold War. The task of the West (which will include Japan,. South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.) will be to prevail without it becoming a hot war, which everyone would lose, just as it was vs. The Soviet Empire

It is also becoming clear, from Congressman Eric Swallwell to Hunter Biden, that one political party is infested with Red China agents and traitors.

What will be needed is a non-alcoholic Joe Mccarthy for the 21st Century to root said agents and traitors out. I was hoping Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would be that Tailgunner, but that has yet to play out.

[Gertrude_Awonk]

Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore are not western they’re eastern

[Curmudgeon]

@Gertrude_Awonk Yes, but those countries will not like Red China hegemony either, hence they will be allied.

[MCheetah]

@Gertrude_Awonk
He said "The task of the West (which will [also] include Japan,. South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.)..." implying the West, along with other countries that are allies with the West.

[Gertrude_Awonk]

Oh ok

[Lliam]

I hate war and aggression and, when it comes to that, the U. S. is by far the worst of them all. Who has military bases all around the world and is constantly adding new ones, along with air and naval forces, to surround other countries? Not China.

What's funny is, the U. S. and China collaborate together with the international banking establishment that is working on the Great Reset/One World Government/New World Order. Plus, the U. S. may be bankrupt, but it would totally fold if not for Chinese investments, the inflow of cheep Chinese goods, and exports to that country. U. S. industrialists are dependent on cheep Chinese labor. And don't forget that the gain of function biological experiments in the Wunah lab were funded by Fauci and his NIH and evil eugenicist collaborators.

Another interesting fact is, the U. S. is implementing Chinese policy here at home. Using covid as an excuse, it is using ever increasing means to track and trace every citizen, bring about a social credit system, and institute digital currency.

China is totalitarian, but that's the direction U. S. leaders want to take this country and the world, with assistance from institutions like the IMF, World Bank, Bank of International Settlements, UN, Council on Foreign Relations, World Economic Forum, Bilderbergs, etc, etc etc.

I think all the talk about China being an enemy is a cynical charade to distract people and make them fearful so that they will accept more unconstitutional authoritarianism and more military spending when, behind the scenes, the U. S. and China are close partners.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yes and it would force accountability within our government because the bidens of our government wouldn't be able to stay in power due to their strong ties to china. We would have to actually unite and by doing so it would show the hypocrisy and bullshit that is going on in the US and reignite a love of country that would aid us in removing the parasite of leftism/progressivism from our society. In addition it would destroy the biggest threat to the world since stalin and hitler. Their is no real down side in this from a national perspective.

[The_Maphio]

War with China is going to end in disaster. Russia is a long time ally of the Chinese government and an exceptional commercial partner. Anybody touching China has to deal with Russia, and the way things are, if the US goes back (as always) to piss in everybody's soup, they are gonna get their asses kicked majorly.
Part of me wants that to happen, but I'm fairly sure that the dickheads in the EU wouldn't keep their hands in their pocket and I'm NOT gonna die for a perfectly disposable bunch of incompetent jackasses.

[Stoner710]

It’s hard to say there been a difference in ideology between the east the the west for thousands of years. My guess is If we went to war with China we gotta be prepared to go to war with Russia as well. Same with Iran but many countries would be on our side depend on what starts it. Like the issue with Taiwan I think most people will see we’re in the right and join us

[K0nse_rule]

If you just want to enemy to unite america then pick an easier enemy! War with China will be blood bath for America. Even if it’s just financial war it would be a devastation.

Face it China has already won in many ways it’s time to just accept the new world order instead of trying to fight it and bloody yourself in the process.

American economy is still worth like two of China anyway so what’s the point? Pick an enemy inside of America don’t involve China or Russia it’s not necessary.

[DarcRefractions]

No a lot of people are on China side. I heard some of those middle east coy tries siding with them
They got Africa or at least west.
They got most of Jamaica
They starting to partner up with south American countries. I think they gave servral 400 billion-dollar loans.


China is this way because of Big business seeking cheap workers and The USA not punishing big business for doing that.

[MasterOfReality]

I’m not sure if anything will ever unite us again. One side loves the country and one side seeks to destroy it as it is. The Left and the Right have nothing in common anymore. Personally, I think we should have an amicable, bloodless separation.

[DaisyM23]

It’s inevitable though, ww3 and this time the technology we’ve praised so much and relied on will be used against us by the elite to wage a stupid war

[Jjpayne]

I'd not like to head in that direction if we don't have to 😅

[douride2]

Nobody would win a war like that. We would all end up losers.

[kevyhanma]

Unite for what? Death? We ain’t fuccin with China🤣🤣🤣 shiiiiid

[Jamie05rhs]

How can I downvote a question?

[KlinkyCoder]

A bit late, but Yes!!