@Aimée_LJ Is it fun being that clueless? I mean really? Listen here do some more research, the Bible which I have personally read the majority of, says in Psalms 139:13 that he knit us together in our mothers wind and there are countless other places it mentions his love for the children while they were still in the mothers womb, but one thing I promise you the bible does not say is that life begins at first breath, so nice try, but your wrong.
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7
There's the life begging at first breath that you said doesn't exist. Here's some passages showing god doesn't actually care about unborn children or anyone really.
"Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . ." Hosea 9:11-16
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”.
1 Samuel 15:3 "utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling..."
Exodus 12:29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of the livestock. 30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he and all his servants and all the Egyptians. And there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead.
They say if I was wet I still said no. (And of course no MEANS no). But that being said the courts will do what ever to make it truth. And truthfully it's murder.
And yet abortion is neither murder nor is it a crime lol that’s just objective reality hon. Is it killing? Absolutely. Does it suck? Absolutely. But killing =/= murder.
@Aimée__LJ Do you really think the semantics matter? Do you think your ridiculous argument is persuasive? If someone was pulling your legs off and crushing your skull, would you care what it was called?
Semantics does matter hon. Saying something is a crime when it isn’t a crime makes you look like an idiot.
If someone’s cutting off my head and limbs, and some bystander said I’m being burned alive, then yeah I’d be a bit annoyed that homedude couldn’t get shit correct
Keep telling yourself that. Planned Parenthood wants intact babies so they can sell the body parts. That is why they delay the procedure as long as possible.
People do though. People are feeding you the stats they want you to hear. Planned Parenthood is the most evil organization on earth. You know the truth deep down.
Planned Parenthood doesn't care about women. The psychological effect on women after abortion is horrible. You can get all the health care you need in a hospital. Men who want to use women as sex objects are for abortion. They don't care what it does to you.
What about the psychological impact of being forced to have a pregnancy. Over 95% of women who have had an abortion don't regret it and still believe it was the right choice 5 years later.
It is not up to me to decide but I can observe reality in front of me and that is what I see. They lie because they were lied to and if they admit they were wrong then murder is on your conscience. No one wants to deal with that. They can soften their hearts and just admit they made a mistake and try to move on but few do.
That only happens in late term abortions... Which are mostly wanted pregnancies that end up going wrong. Those are medically necessary abortions... You're trying to criminalize people who experienced immense trauma and loss.
98 percent of abortions are because of inconvenient pregnancy. Not the life of the mother being threatened or rape. The abortionists should be punished and the women given mandatory therapy.
"The majority of abortions in 2018 took place early in gestation: 92.2% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.9%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation. "
And you think an organization that illegally sells baby parts is going to report correct numbers to the CDC? They want intact bodies and they will lie to vulnerable women to keep the abortion procedure till late in the pregnancy. They will lie to anyone.
There are plenty of videos of undercover journalists that caught PP executives talking about the selling of body parts. You believe what you want to but the truth will set you free.
Planned Parenthood is being funded by tax payers. Too many politicians are bought off by PP. They have too much power. The guy who recorded PP workers was arrested and no investigation opened. You trust authority and think the government and media tell you the truth. They don't.
I admit that when a pro-choice women is killed, I don't really care unless it is someone that I know like my hairdresser. Human life is not all equal and people that can kill a baby so easily should be the first ones to be killed by others. I hope to see more of it in the future
I have seen life develop from embryo to birth for sea horses. And can say with certitude that they were alive for the entire process. We are not so different from sea horses that the same thing can't be said for a unborn human. We all start our lives out as a single cell organism. That isn't just a clump of cells you are flushing down the toilet; but an entire organism. I have a degree in Biology; I cannot and I will not deny the science of this.
Comparing humans to parasites is highly offensive. Also mammalian reproduction isn't a parasitic relationship between offspring and mother. As mammals we invest more into our offspring than any other species.
Um, if they were willing to have sex they should be aware that kids is the whole point of sex. If I had a 15 year old daughter I would want her to either raise her child or give it up for adoption. But I would hope that none of my kids are sexually active at 15.
What kind of archaic land do you live in. Humans are one of the only species that has sex for fun not just reproduction. So no having a baby is not the only reason for sex.
The real world. It is nice that we can have sex for fun; but at the end of the day sex is still about reproduction. Plus if you don't want to get pregnant you should probably switch to oral or anal sex. That or hand stuff. There are plenty of ways to enjoy sex that will never result in pregnancy; as well as the several forms of birth control for the one type of sex that does. Yet too many people rely on terminating a pregnancy; instead of trying to prevent it in the first place. A ban on abortions might result in a slight uptick in births at first; however, that will go down as women realize that they have to be more responsible for their own actions.
So Infertile people should just not have sex? What a stupid mindset you have. So we should teach kids about sex earlier and have more in depth discussions about it from an earlier age. Give free access to birth control, including condoms.
That is not my conclusion. People who don't want kids shouldn't be having sexual intercourse. Or at least not without proper birth control. People who can't have kids can have as much sex as they want. As being infertile removes the primary purpose of sex for them; leaving them with the secondary and tertiary points of sex. Those points were added by us as a species; only dolphins have done the same thing.
Birth control fails. I'll say it again nobody should be forced to go through a pregnancy that they do not want, cannot afford or cannot mentally withstand.
The birth control pill mimics the hormone released during pregnancy that prevents you from ovulating. Which is why they say it is 99.99% effective; when taken. It is only ineffective for women who still ovulate during pregnancy which is a very rare minority.
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Criminals no but when this life ends i hope God judgeds serval those who support the killing of the unborn child
God doesn't care about unborn children sweetie. Bible says life begins at first breath.
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Holy shit, you wrecked him. 👏
@Aimée_LJ Is it fun being that clueless? I mean really? Listen here do some more research, the Bible which I have personally read the majority of, says in Psalms 139:13 that he knit us together in our mothers wind and there are countless other places it mentions his love for the children while they were still in the mothers womb, but one thing I promise you the bible does not say is that life begins at first breath, so nice try, but your wrong.
@RaeShirley
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Gen 2:7
There's the life begging at first breath that you said doesn't exist.
Here's some passages showing god doesn't actually care about unborn children or anyone really.
"Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . ."
Hosea 9:11-16
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”.
1 Samuel 15:3 "utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling..."
Exodus 12:29
At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of the livestock. 30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he and all his servants and all the Egyptians. And there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where someone was not dead.
Let's say you are drowing. And you got yank out and no one does CPR. They just let you die. Cuz someone said I want you. How that make u feel?
Don't*
I don't want it/you
Not a great analogy...
That's how metoo does rape methods.
They say if I was wet I still said no. (And of course no MEANS no). But that being said the courts will do what ever to make it truth. And truthfully it's murder.
A fetus can't survive outside of the womb so no it's not murder it's a medically induced miscarriage.
I no means to make you mad. But something happen to me that's not really fucking fare. So I'm all about it now. Jaded
Terms terms hey I like that.
I knew a gal that had like seven in a 24 month period. She end up having 3 more and they are healthy.
That is highly unlikely...
Many many times I she felt guilty. Like three in a row one summer.
Her bff would talk shit about her to me.
She had one too. She said at the clinic there's many dad's with 14 yr old daughters.
Well she should get on better birth control 🙂
They think it makes people see how immoral it is to kill your own children but I don’t think criminalizing it will do that.
After the second trimester, for the same reason why you can't use drugs while transfusing your blood.
Abortion is murder, that's what. Murder is a crime.
And yet abortion is neither murder nor is it a crime lol that’s just objective reality hon. Is it killing? Absolutely. Does it suck? Absolutely. But killing =/= murder.
@Agape93 That is why these are called "opinions' instead of "facts".
You are stating your opinion as if it is a fact. Murder is a criminal offense. Abortion is not.
You're not saying "I think terminating a pregnancy is wrong because it's ending a potential life"
Exactly.
@Aimée__LJ Do you really think the semantics matter? Do you think your ridiculous argument is persuasive? If someone was pulling your legs off and crushing your skull, would you care what it was called?
Semantics does matter hon. Saying something is a crime when it isn’t a crime makes you look like an idiot.
If someone’s cutting off my head and limbs, and some bystander said I’m being burned alive, then yeah I’d be a bit annoyed that homedude couldn’t get shit correct
Their number one reason?
They believe it's murder
Because they aren’t women.
If they were, they’d be singing a different tune.
It’s a clump of cells, no matter how you look at it. Anything past the first trimester is “murder” so to speak.
Murderers should be punished.
But it's not murder...
The baby can feel pain. That is a human life. You can try to dehumanize the baby by calling it a fetus but murder is what it is.
Nope like I said they cannot feel pain until about 24 weeks.
Then you are against abortion up to 24 weeks? Join the pro life movement then.
I'm pro choice. Im for abortion whenever. Up to 24 weeks. Past 20 week only really happens when medically necessary.
Keep telling yourself that. Planned Parenthood wants intact babies so they can sell the body parts. That is why they delay the procedure as long as possible.
Stats don't lie hun
People do though. People are feeding you the stats they want you to hear. Planned Parenthood is the most evil organization on earth. You know the truth deep down.
I don't think an organization providing sexual health care to women and men in need is evil.
Planned Parenthood doesn't care about women. The psychological effect on women after abortion is horrible. You can get all the health care you need in a hospital. Men who want to use women as sex objects are for abortion. They don't care what it does to you.
What about the psychological impact of being forced to have a pregnancy. Over 95% of women who have had an abortion don't regret it and still believe it was the right choice 5 years later.
So they say but I see the rage in their eyes and the fury they show defending abortion. They look like they have regret to me.
That's not up to you to decide. Why would they lie about it anyway?
It is not up to me to decide but I can observe reality in front of me and that is what I see. They lie because they were lied to and if they admit they were wrong then murder is on your conscience. No one wants to deal with that. They can soften their hearts and just admit they made a mistake and try to move on but few do.
How exactly is it murder?
The abortionist crushes the skull and uses tools to rip body parts off the baby. The life was and then was no more.
That only happens in late term abortions... Which are mostly wanted pregnancies that end up going wrong. Those are medically necessary abortions... You're trying to criminalize people who experienced immense trauma and loss.
98 percent of abortions are because of inconvenient pregnancy. Not the life of the mother being threatened or rape. The abortionists should be punished and the women given mandatory therapy.
Yup and 9/10 abortions are done before 12 weeks.
Not true but I wish you were right because then at least the babies would not feel pain.
"The majority of abortions in 2018 took place early in gestation: 92.2% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.9%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation. "
www.cdc.gov/.../abortion.htm
Very much true.
And you think an organization that illegally sells baby parts is going to report correct numbers to the CDC? They want intact bodies and they will lie to vulnerable women to keep the abortion procedure till late in the pregnancy. They will lie to anyone.
Where's the proof dude?
Late term abortions aren't intact either.
There are plenty of videos of undercover journalists that caught PP executives talking about the selling of body parts. You believe what you want to but the truth will set you free.
Yeah and there's plenty of videos of ghosts doesn't mean they're real... If that were true it would be a massive scandal by now.
Planned Parenthood is being funded by tax payers. Too many politicians are bought off by PP. They have too much power. The guy who recorded PP workers was arrested and no investigation opened. You trust authority and think the government and media tell you the truth. They don't.
because it is murder of a human infant
An infant is a born baby
We will have to agree to disagree
I admit that when a pro-choice women is killed, I don't really care unless it is someone that I know like my hairdresser. Human life is not all equal and people that can kill a baby so easily should be the first ones to be killed by others. I hope to see more of it in the future
You care more about the life of a clump of cells than an actually established human being. That's fucked up.
Most adults are little more than that
Little more than what?
They're usually insane, religious lunatics.
It is a human life.
Nothing but a clump of cells at this point. If you saw it in the toilet you'd be like "eh the fuck" and flush it
I have seen life develop from embryo to birth for sea horses. And can say with certitude that they were alive for the entire process. We are not so different from sea horses that the same thing can't be said for a unborn human. We all start our lives out as a single cell organism. That isn't just a clump of cells you are flushing down the toilet; but an entire organism. I have a degree in Biology; I cannot and I will not deny the science of this.
Wasn't denying they were alive sweetie. But yah know parasites are alive but we yeet those out of our bodies real quick.
Comparing humans to parasites is highly offensive. Also mammalian reproduction isn't a parasitic relationship between offspring and mother. As mammals we invest more into our offspring than any other species.
So? Do you really want people raising kids that they didn't want in the first place. You want your 15 year old daughter to have a kid?
Um, if they were willing to have sex they should be aware that kids is the whole point of sex. If I had a 15 year old daughter I would want her to either raise her child or give it up for adoption. But I would hope that none of my kids are sexually active at 15.
What kind of archaic land do you live in. Humans are one of the only species that has sex for fun not just reproduction. So no having a baby is not the only reason for sex.
The real world. It is nice that we can have sex for fun; but at the end of the day sex is still about reproduction. Plus if you don't want to get pregnant you should probably switch to oral or anal sex. That or hand stuff. There are plenty of ways to enjoy sex that will never result in pregnancy; as well as the several forms of birth control for the one type of sex that does. Yet too many people rely on terminating a pregnancy; instead of trying to prevent it in the first place. A ban on abortions might result in a slight uptick in births at first; however, that will go down as women realize that they have to be more responsible for their own actions.
So Infertile people should just not have sex? What a stupid mindset you have. So we should teach kids about sex earlier and have more in depth discussions about it from an earlier age. Give free access to birth control, including condoms.
Abortion bans don't stop abortions.
Uh, when did I say that?
You said kids is the whole point of sex. So people who can't have kids shouldn't be having sex then?
That is not my conclusion. People who don't want kids shouldn't be having sexual intercourse. Or at least not without proper birth control. People who can't have kids can have as much sex as they want. As being infertile removes the primary purpose of sex for them; leaving them with the secondary and tertiary points of sex. Those points were added by us as a species; only dolphins have done the same thing.
Birth control fails. I'll say it again nobody should be forced to go through a pregnancy that they do not want, cannot afford or cannot mentally withstand.
The birth control pill mimics the hormone released during pregnancy that prevents you from ovulating. Which is why they say it is 99.99% effective; when taken. It is only ineffective for women who still ovulate during pregnancy which is a very rare minority.
It also causes a lot of side effects.