Should conservatism be deemed a mental disorder?

[Anonymous]

[EnglishArtsteacher]

No, a political spectrum shouldn't be classified as a "mental disorder".

If Conservatism was to be classified as a mental disorder, then liberalism should also be classified as a mental disorder.

I'm not conservative in my views myself, but it has no correlation to a mental disorder.

[abc3643]

No, I don't think so.
It's the result of certain instinctive traits that are just stronger in some people than in those who lean liberal.
The liberals have different instinctive traits that are stronger, that's all.


The major difference between conservatives and liberals are:
1. How they deal with threats and their immediacy.
2. Their ability to tolerate disorder and transience.
3. Their ability to think abstractly.

[MCheetah]

Looks like some Reddit trash found GAG for the first time (assuming they didn't get banned from a previous account).

Assuming this isn't just straight trolling, I have to ask: Why would family values and religion be considered any more of a mental disorder than transgenderism, "non binary," thinking, "bisexuality," Otherkins, social justice, and everything else far more rooted in delusions and fantasies, that come from the radical left? Only a crazy and/or brainwashed person can say you can change your biological sex just by believing so, or that more than two genders exist. I'm not even a Conservative/right-leaning, by the way.

This is most likely just a troll not used to being outside the echo chamber of Twitter/Reddit, though. Also explains why they're posting anonymously, like a coward.

[hellionthesagereborn]

No, just because your bigoted and ignorant doesn't mean others should suffer for it. Also statistically its the left that is most prone to mental disorders (over half of all democrat women reported having a mental disorder and another study found that democrats in general where more likely to be mentally unstable if we are getting technical. Even then I wouldn't agree to you being punished for your world view but then I'm not an authoritarian nor a bigot.).

[msc545]

What studies? Do you have links to them?

[hellionthesagereborn]

@msc545 Sure I can find them, would you ever listen to them though? That is rhetorical, the answer is no, no you would never ever listen to or accept ANYTHING that refutes your ideological belief (I've done this too many times to not know how exactly this will turn out, people are just to predictable (and intellectually lazy)).

[msc545]

Sure, I will be glad to read them. That is why I asked for them. Do you have them or not?

[hellionthesagereborn]

Fine, we will play this stupid game where I give you data and you make excuses for why it doesn't count because it doesn't say what you want it to say.
nypost.com/.../
www.researchgate.net/.../221686525_Correlation_Not_Causation_The_Relationship_between_Personality_Traits_and_Political_Ideologies
bigleaguepolitics.com/.../
www.theguardian.com/.../democrats-republicans-political-beliefs-national-survey-poll

[msc545]

Thank you. That is a very interesting and very intricate collection of Articles it took me a few minutes to read through. After reading through the first time I took some notes and then read through a second time trying to find the part that you believe illustrates some relationship between mental illness and liberalism. I couldn't find anything like that other than a very technical statement regarding narcissism and liberalism. However you will note that the term narcissism is modified in a technical way that doesn't suggest pathology. I also didn't find any thing that suggested a correlation between conservatism and mental disorder is either. So I'm curious to know exactly which portion of these articles suggested to you that being liberal meant that 1 had a higher probability of being mentally ill.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@msc545 Except for the part where it points out that over 56% of white liberal women have admitted to mental disorders. Except for that part, that very not technical and very forward statement that is in the articles/polls/studies. Like I said you people are just stupidly predictable. You knew you were not going to bother actually reading any of this (because you didn't otherwise you would have read that part, its what the second article I think) but if I didn't provide it you would immediatley claim victory because I "couldn't prove my statement". Its all tiresome and stupid, why play the game, we both know what you are and what you will do so just admit it to yourself so I don't have to waste my time with this stupidity.

First article, first paragraph: "and that liberal political beliefs, not conservative ones, are actually linked to psychoticism." The others mentioned greater propensity for bipolarism and authoritarianism as well. But you knew that because according to you, you read them. Stop being a cunt and own your shit, I fucking hate liars and I hate hypocrits.

[msc545]

You know, I would go back and actually look at it again and read the source articles to see exactly what you're talkin about except that I would have to come back and talk to you about it and you seem unable to respond to me without being insulting and sarcastic. I read it in good faith but I will admit that I may have missed some things and I may read it again to get a better understanding of the things you said I missed. That's said, at your behavior toward me is unacceptable and I'm certainly not going to respond to you here or argue with you anymore about this. I asked you in good faith to provide some data you did, and that was good of you, but now that I want to discuss it you seem unable to do so in a polite or well-mannered fashion anyway thanks for the references.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@msc545 No, I'm just tired of people claiming shit that they know isn't true. I gave you the quote which is in the first paragraph of the first article that stated what you claim it didn't state. you didn't read it as I said you wouldn't because you don't want to have a discussion, you asked for sources because you arrogantly thought that your position was the right one (without any evidence) and that I could not produce the studies mentioned. I did and in order to hold onto your ideological beliefs you had to come up with some reason for why what ever evidence was presented was wrong or that I misinterpreted that and in order to come to that conclusion you had to either lie to me or lie to yourself. studies show consistently that presenting evidence only makes a person more certain that they are correct rather then convince them they are wrong and so I pointed out, rightly, that you would dismiss the evidence. So what did you do? Did you read the evidence and change your mind? NO! You dismissed it because it didn't say what you wanted it to say exactly as I stated you would. That isn't me insulting you, that is me being fed up with these stupid fucking games, no one has ever convinced you of anything you didn't already believe no matter the evidence and you know it and I know it so why waste my fucking time demanding sources you know your not going to read as you didn't and admitted as much? Its an asshole thing to do, don't ask for me to waste my time when you know its going to be meaningless (you only did it hoping I wouldn't so you could proclaim "victory").

[hellionthesagereborn]

@msc545 Do you seriously think that this fools anyone? Do you seriously think that every single other person who has asked that question of me, almost every day, over the what, seven years I've been on this site hasn't done the same exact thing, made the same exact requests, completely refused to read the articles presented, then when called out on it made some bullshit excuse that I'm the asshole because they refused to take the time to read the article they demanded I waste my time in acquring all so they could maintain their ideological beliefs? Come on, this is par for the course. Their was a reason why I could predict everything you where going to do, its because every single person does it every fucking time. Its like predicting that if I drop something it will fall, its not a prediction anymore but a law of nature.

[msc545]

You need to calm the fuck down.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@msc545 I am calm, I'm merely pointing out that this is the most predictable thing their is. You didn't read what you asked for because I showed you the first paragraph of the first link stated the exact opposite of your claim. I told you you would do this and you did, you waste my time in an attempt to push your ideological beliefs. Again, I am calm, you did exactly what I told you you would do, you couldn't even managed to deviate even slightly from the script even after I told you what it was. If you cannot understand how annoying that is, that you cannot even be creative with your rejection of reality, then I'm sorry but that is your problem not mine. Don't ever waste my time asking for sources again, you will not read them, you will not accept them, and I do not have the patience to spend the time looking for them and curating them so you can't claim "bias source" and dismiss them outright (yet another "trick"(logical fallacy) employed by those devoted to the cult).

I don't need to calm down, you need to start thinking instead of being a slave to your ideological beliefs.

[msc545]

Now you are just ranting. Semi-coherently, but still ranting. I'm done here.

[TheUniqueOne96]

Political hypocrisy should be seen as a mental disorder more likely and as far as I'm aware, there's hypocrisy from both sides, although I am talking about individual behavior, because I don't know too much about what any political party represents and I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy.

[blank_expression]

Conservatives are those that can live from the land and survive on their own. Conservatives provide the framework and infrastructure from which the liberal parasites exist. The liberal mental illness is allowed to exist off the backs of conservatives. Mentally ill types don’t bode well in the real world and therefore liberals would cease to exist without conservatives. The ones that survive the impending catastrophic events to come, will not be of weak mind and illness associated with the liberals. Conservatives will continue on when it all collapses. NO

[Asker]

Republican states literally mooch off of democrat states

[blank_expression]

Blue states actually have more conservatives in them than liberals. The crooked fake voting systems of those States, keep these conservatives political prisoners of exorbitant taxes feeding liberal parasites. In the real election that occurred last cycle, most States turned red. This will come out in time.

[Asker]

Um no, blue state have more democrats and red states have more republicans.

[blank_expression]

As I said, this will come out in time.

[Asker]

Do you believe in the big lie that Trump won?

[blank_expression]

Do you believe in the big lie Biden won?

[Asker]

It's not a lie, he is president.

[Avicenna]

That was done in the former Soviet Union and Maoist China - political dissidents were declared mentally ill. But it doesn't surprise me that leftist totalitarians want to do the same thing in the US.

Such a declaration would be a violation of human rights, and of the First Amendment as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution; i. e., completely illegal.

[msc545]

Aside from Trump, who really is mentally ill, no other Republicans have been targeted with that label.
On the other hand, Republicans have repeatedly referred to Biden ad having "Dementia" although they have no idea what it is and no education that would qualify them to diagnose it.

[Dongie]

Thats odd, many, MANY democrats have had that label placed upon them. For good reason too, I might add!

[Avicenna]

@Dongie: Their actions and words out them as mentally ill, not just their stupid totalitarian politics.

[Avicenna]

Not their stupid politics

[Dongie]

Yes!

[SummusImperator]

Why the hell would conservatism be considered a mental disorder? It is merely the opposite of liberalism, so if one is considered a mental disorder then so must the other by logical conclusion.
Let's talk about it, why should conservatism be considered a mental disorder?

[msc545]

It isn't really conservatism per se, it's the people that tend to become conservatives that are worrisome. If you doubt that, read upwards and contemplate the ravings of some of the "conservatives" on this site.

[SummusImperator]

@msc545 I did see a lot of radical conservative comments, but I also saw some radical liberal comments and it is expected to see more conservative comments since this question is about conservatism Nobody should be called mentally ill because of their political beliefs. I don't know about you, but let's not create thought police in our society.

[msc545]

I would never call someone mentally ill based on their political beliefs, but very well might call someone mentally ill based on their other beliefs that seem to correlate very highly with some political beliefs. QAnon, for instance.

[SummusImperator]

@msc545 QAnon and Antifa, I assume since they are both radical groups that have committed violent acts.

[msc545]

No, violence isn't the determinant. The insane conspiracy theories are. QAnon has lots of those, and Antifa doesn't, sorry.

[msc545]

No, but authoritarianism should in that it is very close to sadism, and many conservatives are authoritarians.

[OlderAndWiser]

With respect to the pandemic, I believe that show is on the other foot: it is the liberals who say that we should all comply with authority and those resisting tend to be the conservatives.

[msc545]

@OlderAndWiser Yes, except what we want conservatives to comply with is simply medical science. We didn't make up the rules.

[Avicenna]

No honest observer could possibly conclude that it is the leftists who aren't the authoritarians- look at their constant, heavy-handed and often illegal use of government power and coordination between government and corporations to suppress thoughts and speech at odds with their ideology, weaponization of the IRS against political opponents, and the use of unelected bureaucracy and NGOs to force their ideological beliefs on others. Now THAT is sadism...

[msc545]

@Avicenna Every single war since WWII has been provoked and started during a Republican administration, with the possible (and arguable) exception of Vietnam during the Johnson administration which certainly prolonged it. Don't tell me that all that warmongering isn't authoritarianism and sadism.

[msc545]

@Avicenna I beg to differ. That is not sadism.

[Asker]

@Avicenna How do democrats weapnize the URS?

[msc545]

@OlderAndWiser We also would like conservatives to stop breaking the law. We did participate in drafting those laws, but so did you people who also ranted for many years about "Law and Order" and now ironically are the very people who disrupt law and order.

There is a certain sad irony in the fact that you, a lawyer, are now on the side of people who break our laws and disrupt public order.

[Leavesbound]

No but I do believe that conservative leaders exploit the below average IQ of the majority of Republicans. Most Republicans aren't really conservative though. Conservatives believe in ethics and morality and patriotism not war and crime and treason.

[Anonymous]

Funny how we are now classifying REAL mental disorders as "normal", and we are classifying NORMAL behavior as "hateful" or "phobic".
I guess this is what happens when God hands people over to a REPROBATE MIND.
Answer is NO.

[Massageman]

As a counselor, my wife is finding more and more of this every day in her clients.

[msc545]

@Massageman What mental disorders are being classified as "normal" according to your wife?

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Yes, it should be deemed a mental disorder, they are very close to Hitler aKa Dictators

[888theGreat]

Liberals are the ones that need mental help. They are the ones that are females that think they are males. It's with boobs and a dick, no one is more mentally disable. You are the ones that cheat to win and lie to fool people.

[Dalton57]

In the USA anyone who thinks Trump is still president has a mental disorder. QED

[EternallyCorrect]

While many right wingers might be idiots, statistically liberals suffer with more mental disorders than conservatives.

[Vietnemin]

No you can be conservative and not have a mental disorder

[shortster]

No, that would be a fascistic thing to do. Just because you don't understand the motivations of people who have a different political opinion doesn't mean that they have a mental disorder. You need to be more open minded.

[MrCommodore]

Most people are actually Centerists, with a combination of Conservative and Liberal views.

[DaveToo]

No, conservatism isn't the problem, it's Republicans that are fascists but claim conservatism as their reason for treason.

[EnglishEuropean]

If it requires delusional beliefs, then yes. That is a symptom of psychosis.

Examples of delusional beliefs: Trump won the election, Trump will be reinstated, Trump is Jesus.

[Anonymous]

It already is, but more commonly known as retardation.

[ManHater]

Women asking this questions should be considered mental.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps it would help to understand what you think you mean by conservatism.

[Omar5881]

The one who formed the logic of this question is mentally handicapped

[DescendantofLilith]

No, why? That's about half of the population

[Dargil]

No but left-liberalism should.

[Asker]

How is science and civil rights a disorder

[Dargil]

Left liberalism is not science. It's insanity. Science has nothing to do with left liberalism

[Asker]

Which side denies global warming and evolution?

[Avicenna]

You clearly live in an alternate universe and believe leftist caricatures of their political opponents. And there is plenty of "science" leftists don't want to hear about because they're politicized it to gain power and wealth for themselves.

[888theGreat]

which believe in science fiction , and UFO's , and little green men

[Lionman95]

Not believing in evolution or global warming has nothing to do with conservatism in itself. You can be conservative and belief in both, you can be liberal and believe in neither. Conservatism is rather political or social view on life and living together with others.
Also a conservative would defend civil rights he´s just questioning who has the rights to do certain activities. Global warming and evolution aren´t politically based topics because they won´t change in itself no matter what party you support. You can´t deny it or support it, that wouldn´t change the matter of it.

[Asker]

@Lionman95 Most conservatives denies those science

[Avicenna]

Leftists arrogantly insist on full agreement with whatever their narrative is. And any scientific topic other than climate is of little interest to them.

[White_Boy_506]

No but liberalism definitely should

[MandyMaiden31]

Just gonna drop this here.
lib·er·al·ism
/ˈlib (ə) rəˌlizəm/
noun

willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; openness to new ideas.
a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 well that isn’t the definition most people typically think of. What I really meant to say is modern day progressive politics

[MandyMaiden31]

Thank you 🙂

[White_Boy_506]

Yeah. Sorry about that

[MandyMaiden31]

I'm a liberal Republican so I had to lol I appreciate the maturity too in your response. Damn refreshing

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 I don’t even know what a liberal Republican is.

[MandyMaiden31]

I want my gun with me at the gay wedding and an open market healthcare system with women having a choice? Sum it up lol

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 Gee well you sound almost as bad as the left to me then

[MandyMaiden31]

Democrats want no guns and universal healthcare and overall controlling people under the guise of helping them. a more communist country and we pay for it. They take 400 now for taxes every check I have now

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 well yeah but you still support things that are anti-biblical

[MandyMaiden31]

I'm not a religious person. That's literally not what makes you a democrat or a Republican.

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 well. You’re not like most Republicans then.

[MandyMaiden31]

Like I said thought I was a democrat until I did years of research and have an amazing conservative Republican friend who just gave me the sources and actual information. we exchanged and actually read and studied on and I really learned a ton about what both parties actually represent with every aspect of society. Side by side views. I assure you I'm a Republican. just not super conservative

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 well I guess I’ve always aligned more with conservatives than Republicans then. I see you as an enemy within my own ranks

[MandyMaiden31]

Thats not very biblical either. but okay then. have a good night

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 its true. You don’t seem all that supportive of Trump

[MandyMaiden31]

I support trump as a president. He's a scum bag human in real life but by the numbers he did great

[Avicenna]

@MandyMaiden31: That certainly doesn't characterize today's totalitarian leftists. They accept no differences in opinion, definitely aren't open to new ideas, don't believe in individual rights, are willing to restrict civil liberties and democracy, plus they oppose free enterprise.

[MandyMaiden31]

@Avicenna yes that has been established

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 I disagree. I think Trump is a great person in real life. He didn’t have to serve his country but he willingly chose to. And he tirelessly fought back against the left in defense of our values.

[MandyMaiden31]

right. However plenty of veterans have done horrid things my step dad was a pedo rapist. But he faught the freedom so. That one thing doesn't say anything towards him grabbing pussies and plenty of sexual harassment suits settled out of court. He's had affairs on at least his first two wives. whatever though. Great guy. I said he was a great president he did shit how its suppose to run.

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 Well the difference is Trump didn’t misuse the power that was invested in him.

[MandyMaiden31]

Never said he did. once again great president

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 so why are you comparing him to that so called rapist stepdad of yours?

[MandyMaiden31]

you're just giving one example as an individual that doesn't paint the entire picture of everything a person is, that's the comparison. I wouldn't be his friend in my personal life. I did vote for him and said multiple times here and other media, that I did support his leadership as an economy; actually knows what American freedoms mean , how to balance the two. To be able to work it as a functional and fruitful society.

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 but why don’t you like him personally? He reminds me of my own grand father

[MandyMaiden31]

I literally just stated some of those reasons a few replies ago

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 well it all seemed like jibberish nonsense to me

[MandyMaiden31]

then research

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 You’re just blindly retorting the left’s criticisms of him. He had great family relations

[MandyMaiden31]

you keep saying blindly.. as if you legit can't look up his public records. Want me to hold your hand and just send you that info myself?

[MandyMaiden31]

Links and all. Good president. Shit person in life.

[White_Boy_506]

@MandyMaiden31 I don’t care to read fabricated reports. He’s only had like two wives in his entire life.

[MandyMaiden31]

Actual public reports of lawsuits. Not articles. Damn. 😂 how sad. All the facts at your fingertips just have to look for them. but choose ignorance of what a persons history making myself not like him as a person I'd hang out with. Vote for yeah. Like you're mad over what? I don't like him grabbing pussies? Being an adulter? I fully support his presidency you don't seem to get that

[msc545]

Oh - you forgot to mention his "service" during Vietnam!

[JesseJayNeak]

What about liberals and their ideas?

[joeldalton]

Stunning and brave.

[taboomaster]

How so?

[Anonymous]

Why not

[dray995]

Should Liberalism?

[Asker]

For what reason?

[dray995]

👆 My point exactly. Now you get it……🤔

[Asker]

Liberals don't believe in crazy things.

[dray995]

Yeah, they actually do.

[msc545]

What things? Be specific.

[Asker]

like what?

[Lionman95]

@msc545 All those woke ideas? The idea that market will solve any economical problems we have...

[msc545]

I think you may have that a bit wrong conservatives and Libertarians are the ones that believe that the market will solve all problems even though the available data suggests that that won't happen.