Should it be illegal for a Baker to refuse to make a wedding cake for a Homosexual or Transgender couple? (Page 2)
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If their being homosexual or trans is the reason they won't make the cake, then yes. At least within the U. S. That's a violation of their constitutional rights as American citizens. In other nations that do not have those rights, then no.
It should be as illegal as it is for him to refuse to make a cake for an interracial couple.
*What business does the government have telling him who he can and can't do business with?
Who enforces those agreements?
No. We don’t even know why he won’t? Maybe he has personal experience with one of them and doesn’t want to deal with them. He has a right to do anything he wantsas long as it dosent harm anyone. So does not baking a cake for someone harm them? No. So then we know the baker can make cakes for whoever the fuck he wants. And he won’t make cakes for people he does not want to make cakes for. Make aense?
That sad part is that these bakers are probably put on a hit list, and targeted by homosexuals that need to force the world to believe the same as them. The LGTBQR community doesn't want equal rights, they want more rights than everyone else.
No. For a small business, you should literally be able to say whatever you want to a person and kick them out of your store.
That aside, you still shouldn't be able to force anyone to make anything. We can tell people they *can't* do things -- things that infringe on others freedom. But telling people they have to *do* something in the affirmative is to command them as a slave, which should be a big no-no.
I think it’s wrong and a horrible way to run a business to not want to make a cake for a trans or gay couple. If you love baking cakes for people’s special days than it shouldn’t matter. But if I was gay or trans I wouldn’t want a bakery to make my cake if they didn’t like me. I would find a better baker who would show that ignorant baker up. Their loss !
@bonster1984. The question is should it be unlawful to refuse to make a cake (or provide service) to someone?
I think it should never be illegal for a business to refuse service, no matter what.
NO, It is the bakers prerogative to decide who will/will not accept an order from, it would be for the best if the 'Law' was kept out of it, there are plenty of bakers in the yellow pages who would accept the commission.
For the people who said he should be forced to bake a cake for whoever wants it, remember we have a constitutional right (13th amendment) not to be forced into work or involuntary servitude. Your First Amendment rights also guarantee that you can practice your religion freely.
He can do what he wants
Note: There's a very massive difference between some small corner shop selling bread and cake and some mega corp "doing what they want"
There are hospitals refusing to treat people 🙄
People don't need cake, but they sure do need their health.
At least bakers didn't swear an oath.
@ninani. Bullshit. Emergency rooms are required to take anyone.
@KrakenAttackin yet not all of them do
The baker is free to make it or not because it’s his bakery in the first place you can’t force your thoughts on other people, if he doesn’t want to then it’s fine there are many would do it.
that homosexual cake looks delicious. money is money who gives a rats ass whos paying who they are marrying geez
@Amy7777 I am saying if it was me being straight and ordained myself, I do not care- if I was a bakery owner I would say dont care just gimme your money. My main issue is people do not practice what they preach, like Christians saying homosexuality etc is wrong, however how many of them have, sex, kids outta wed lock? are with more then one sexual partner etc that is my basic issue the hypocrisy. what a business chooses to do is them not me. Should it be illegal ehhh, but if a baker chooses to refuse service for whatever reason its not really someone you want making your cake for your big day anyways.
But should it be illegal for the baker to refuse?
@Amy7777 it is more complicated then yes or no especially being from a military family, you cannot force anyone to do anything especially a private business, however discrimination is illegal. There is way too much grey for a definite yes or no.
Actually, the supreme court had no trouble calling BS on this. If a BBQ joint sells only pork ribs, is this discriminating against Muslims, or is that just the type of business the owner wants?
@Amy7777 if a bbq place only sells pork ribs then it is pork ribs, how is is discrimination against any race or region? different issue, different context. the more you talk the stupider you look and sound
Like any Business, It is THEIR own Business. Does it Make it it Right to Fight? It Has to Come from The Heart from the Start. xx
free enterprise, if a baker refuses to make Gat Cakes, he will probably go out of business, thats the risk he takes
No but if they don't want to it shouldn't be allowed to force them to
No. They have every rights to serve what they serve or don't. The owner have every authority to decide what's on the menu. If you don't like it, you're not forced to order from them and they lost a customer. Simple.
And talk about how many got outraged over a white Skittle. So yeah there goes the double standards
*Skittles
Ah no. You can’t force people to go against their beliefs.
Go to a different baker and move on
Exactly my point and the guy is trying to debate me on this matter
Ridiculous.
There’s many other bakers, people can go somewhere else where the bakers feel comfortable and so do the buyers. No one should be forcing others to go against what the believe
No private businesses can do as they please. Customers don't have to use their services either.
I totally agree with you.
Hmmm, tough one, but no.
We should limit less people from things, just like gay people can now freely marry in most countries. Leave the choice to the individuals.
That also means leaving people the choice to be assholes.
There a number of reason beyond prejudice they refuse to make the cake. And even if that was the reason, forcing they to make by law would pretty much guarantee a subpair product.