The only thing liberals hate more than Covid-19, is when Trump mentioned the country it came from. They went nuts when he told the inconvenient truth about where it came from. They called him a racist, and a xenophobe. Liberals hate the plague, but they LOVE those who created it, and unleashed it on the world. Funny world we live in. You know how they say: "Don't shoot the messenger?" Well, that's the liberal way. If they don't like the message, they just shoot the messenger. Problem solved.
Really? What facts do you have that it's mostly the right not getting vaccinated? Would you find it surprising that the most unvaccinated Americans are black and latinos? And what party do most minorities vote for? Democrat.
@PinkMichae The black and Latino anti-vaxxers could be QAnons. They are extremely stupid people and race has nothing to do with who will join a cult.. Or they could not be political at all. A large percentage of people do not vote. To assume they are all "liberal" is kinda dopey. You are stereotyping.
Mainly because Donald Trump was president at the time and he did not want to be blamed for the damages of Covid19 and thought he could just have everyone pretend nothing is wrong and keep going without rocking the boat.
Sort of the same thing China usually does when something negative happens around them. A smarter person would use the disaster to rally people around them but no one ever accused Trump of being intelligent hence his first instinct of trying to escape consequences rather than deal with them.
Actually it's the current administration that made it political. Both Biden and Harris caused vaccine hesitancy by saying they wouldn't trust Trumps vaccine if he's involved. And now their administration and the mainstream media want everyone to believe it's the the right that's not getting vaccinated and continuing the pandemic.
But the facts show the least vaccinated Americans are black and Hispanic/Latino. And most minority groups vote Democrat.
But knowing that I wouldn't blame Democrats only. Because I'm smart enough to know it's a mixture of races and people of different political beliefs that choose not to get vaccinated.
@PinkMichae Republicans turned vaccination into a political issue long before the election started up. Trump put down the groundwork for the anti-vaxx movement back in January of 2020.
The vaccine is political, because there are people in government, corporations, and schools that want to mandate what medical decisions people make. It isn't about the vaccine or science, its about having controll over other people's medical decisions.
@Soteris How did Trump set the groundwork for anti-vaxers when he worked so hard to help us get it in a year instead of 5 or 10 years? Why when he contracted to makes sure every American could get vaccinated? Why when Trump got vaccinated himself and advised people to get vaccinated? He never once made people doubt the vaccines. He had only said it's a choice like all vaccines. However Democrats did put doubt in Americans minds saying they don't know if they trust it with Trump involved. So you sir are wrong.
@PinkMichae What sort of revisionist history is this? Must I remind you that Trump was warned about this upcoming pandemic in 2019 and did not tell anyone or prepare a response for it. He also tossed the literal handbook that USA had prepared for handling just a pandemic like this and fired the people in China who's job it was to prevent it. This is also just the tip of the ice berg on the sabotaging he did prior to this happening.
Basically Trump is the type of person that chucks out the fire extinguisher because he did not think it was necessary since nothing was on fire then deny that the house is on fire because it reflects poorly on his handling of the situation.
You can also track his response from keeping it a secret from the public to denying its existence to claiming it was just a handful of cases that would magically go away to saying its not even as bad as the flu and that it will go away in the summer etc...
All these things ensured that the Republican political stance was to minimize the threat of Covid19 and not do anything about it because that would send the message that it was not in fact "harmless". In other words Trump made sure that calling covid19 a pandemic and a health crisis that HAS already killed over a million people became a Democratic stance and was "incorrect" and "fake news" which later resulted in the vaccine AND the mask/quarantine measures being seen as Democratic schemes that either overreacts to "just the flu" or is somehow designed to attack you as a republican and/or your rights.
There is literally a direct link between Trump->Anti-vaxx->countless deaths, economic damage and suffering
@Soteris I do remember he was warned. I also remember China lied. Trump didn't want to cause a panic. Still he stopped people from other countries from entering our country in January. And democrats called him racist and xenophobic for doing it. Tell me what did democrats do to protect us. Oh that's right. They were too busy using tax payers money trying to impeach him at every turn unsuccessfully.
I truly believe if democrats would have just work with Trump Instead of fighting him over every little thing, our country would have been better protected. Me and my family weren't struggling financially for once when he was president. Now that Biden has spent so much money, he's caused inflation to the point we are struggling again.
Also Trump made comments about it going away by summer because we were learning as we go. He was trying to be optimistic. That didn't mean he didn't take the virus seriously. He wouldn't have done all he did to try to help us beat covid-19 including helping to make the vaccine available only a year later. Trump made mistakes. But not as many mistakes as Biden is now. I mean Americans have been abandoned and left in the hands of the Taliban. Our Allies abandoned as well. And killing 3 aid workers and 7 children in his drone strike he thought was isis k. I could go on but I'm sure you'll just make excuses for Biden like most do. Personally I think it's inexcusable.
@PinkMichae I agree with you about when Trump was president I made tons of money. I am waiting on expensive purchases such as a car or house until prices drop. I had to drop $900 to get my car fixed, then they wanted to charge me another $500 for something else. Did the work myself for $100.
@PinkMichae Well then. Lets revisit the Trump travel ban and explain why it had nothing to do with Covid19 and all to do with racism and/or appealing to his racist followers.
First and perhaps most importantly, they did not work. Not even slightly. We said they would not work and they did not, big surprise. So what made me and many others so certain that Trumps travel bans had not a snowballs chance in hell of actually working? Because they were politically motivated, as in the reason they existed where to score political points rather than stop the pandemic. This in turn means no one actually made sure there was a plan to follow it.
For example, the ban was more like "Travel restrictions" meaning people could still travel although to a more limited degree. This by itself does literally nothing to stop the spread since the virus dont care that a large number of people can't travel since it would just be transported by the few that can.
Limiting the travel is by itself perhaps not the worst idea if paired up with other measures. It could for example make a system of mandatory quarantine easier to enforce with fewer people or help with test and trace. If Trump and his government was actually serious about stopping Covid19 they would have followed up the travel bans with something else such as what New Zealand was doing.
So if the travel ban had nothing to do with stopping the pandemic and it was just a political move then why target certain countries and why avoid others?
First of lets just make a list: Iran Iraq Libya Somalia Sudan Syria Yemen Chad North Korea Venezuela Eritrea Kyrgyzstan Myanmar Nigeria Tanzania
There are other travel restrictions during the Trump era but this is the one that ruffled the most feathers. Partially because its straight up racist and partially because Trump had tried to implement this list for 5 years already. Again, what argument could you POSSIBLY make that restricting travel to NORTH KOREA would somehow protect USA from covid as opposed to I dont know... maybe Italy? The very same Italy that had an early outbreak and have a lot of travel between itself and USA?
Also they successfully impeached Donald Trump. Twice. The fact that the Conservative party saved his bacon for political reasons does not change this nor the fact that Trump was unsuitable for the presidency.
As for what the Democrats did? They were not in power so they could not do anything. It is up to the Conservatives to do something and they failed. I also like to point out that you might not have struggled during Trumps time, many did however and even if you did not he basically financed your good times by taking on a lot of debt. It is not Bidens fault that he needs to deal with the consequences of Trumps mismanagement.
Trump has done more harm to the effort against Covid19 than any other human on earth. You could pile up hundreds of thousands of deaths at his feet alone for his effort in sabotaging the vaccine and the other preparations. Also if you want to talk about abandoning your allies, whatever happened to the Kurds in Syria?
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Ha, you might have something their. But I bet it has more to do with liberal and dem hypocrisy.
No Stern is just an ass hole like Pelosi , Biden , and other DNC morons.
And 1 out of 200 die from it. How come you still don't get this? Not many have died from it. Quit being hysterical.
The only thing liberals hate more than Covid-19, is when Trump mentioned the country it came from.
They went nuts when he told the inconvenient truth about where it came from. They called him a racist, and a xenophobe. Liberals hate the plague, but they LOVE those who created it, and unleashed it on the world. Funny world we live in. You know how they say: "Don't shoot the messenger?"
Well, that's the liberal way. If they don't like the message, they just shoot the messenger. Problem solved.
Lol yeah if they don't get it they'll drop off. and we'll get more votes.
I hope republicans don't get it at all.
If it is a reverse psychology ploy, it is sad that it is working.
Really? What facts do you have that it's mostly the right not getting vaccinated? Would you find it surprising that the most unvaccinated Americans are black and latinos? And what party do most minorities vote for? Democrat.
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@PinkMichae , I said "If" in my answer. I do believe that you are correct that the vaccination rate among minorities is lower and that is sad as well.
Yes it is sad. Makes me wonder are they choosing not to get vaccinated or do they not have the opportunity to do it where they live?
@PinkMichae The black and Latino anti-vaxxers could be QAnons. They are extremely stupid people and race has nothing to do with who will join a cult.. Or they could not be political at all. A large percentage of people do not vote. To assume they are all "liberal" is kinda dopey. You are stereotyping.
Good grief you’re stupid.
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She tried lol
Why is this vaccine political?
Mainly because Donald Trump was president at the time and he did not want to be blamed for the damages of Covid19 and thought he could just have everyone pretend nothing is wrong and keep going without rocking the boat.
Sort of the same thing China usually does when something negative happens around them. A smarter person would use the disaster to rally people around them but no one ever accused Trump of being intelligent hence his first instinct of trying to escape consequences rather than deal with them.
Actually it's the current administration that made it political. Both Biden and Harris caused vaccine hesitancy by saying they wouldn't trust Trumps vaccine if he's involved. And now their administration and the mainstream media want everyone to believe it's the the right that's not getting vaccinated and continuing the pandemic.
But the facts show the least vaccinated Americans are black and Hispanic/Latino. And most minority groups vote Democrat.
But knowing that I wouldn't blame Democrats only. Because I'm smart enough to know it's a mixture of races and people of different political beliefs that choose not to get vaccinated.
@PinkMichae Republicans turned vaccination into a political issue long before the election started up. Trump put down the groundwork for the anti-vaxx movement back in January of 2020.
@PinkMichae You're right. Soturdis doodoohead.
The vaccine is political, because there are people in government, corporations, and schools that want to mandate what medical decisions people make. It isn't about the vaccine or science, its about having controll over other people's medical decisions.
@Soteris How did Trump set the groundwork for anti-vaxers when he worked so hard to help us get it in a year instead of 5 or 10 years? Why when he contracted to makes sure every American could get vaccinated? Why when Trump got vaccinated himself and advised people to get vaccinated? He never once made people doubt the vaccines. He had only said it's a choice like all vaccines. However Democrats did put doubt in Americans minds saying they don't know if they trust it with Trump involved. So you sir are wrong.
@PinkMichae What sort of revisionist history is this? Must I remind you that Trump was warned about this upcoming pandemic in 2019 and did not tell anyone or prepare a response for it. He also tossed the literal handbook that USA had prepared for handling just a pandemic like this and fired the people in China who's job it was to prevent it. This is also just the tip of the ice berg on the sabotaging he did prior to this happening.
Basically Trump is the type of person that chucks out the fire extinguisher because he did not think it was necessary since nothing was on fire then deny that the house is on fire because it reflects poorly on his handling of the situation.
You can also track his response from keeping it a secret from the public to denying its existence to claiming it was just a handful of cases that would magically go away to saying its not even as bad as the flu and that it will go away in the summer etc...
All these things ensured that the Republican political stance was to minimize the threat of Covid19 and not do anything about it because that would send the message that it was not in fact "harmless". In other words Trump made sure that calling covid19 a pandemic and a health crisis that HAS already killed over a million people became a Democratic stance and was "incorrect" and "fake news" which later resulted in the vaccine AND the mask/quarantine measures being seen as Democratic schemes that either overreacts to "just the flu" or is somehow designed to attack you as a republican and/or your rights.
There is literally a direct link between Trump->Anti-vaxx->countless deaths, economic damage and suffering
@Soteris: Your ravings are especially insane on this thread.
@Soteris I do remember he was warned. I also remember China lied. Trump didn't want to cause a panic. Still he stopped people from other countries from entering our country in January. And democrats called him racist and xenophobic for doing it. Tell me what did democrats do to protect us. Oh that's right. They were too busy using tax payers money trying to impeach him at every turn unsuccessfully.
I truly believe if democrats would have just work with Trump Instead of fighting him over every little thing, our country would have been better protected. Me and my family weren't struggling financially for once when he was president. Now that Biden has spent so much money, he's caused inflation to the point we are struggling again.
Also Trump made comments about it going away by summer because we were learning as we go. He was trying to be optimistic. That didn't mean he didn't take the virus seriously. He wouldn't have done all he did to try to help us beat covid-19 including helping to make the vaccine available only a year later. Trump made mistakes. But not as many mistakes as Biden is now. I mean Americans have been abandoned and left in the hands of the Taliban. Our Allies abandoned as well. And killing 3 aid workers and 7 children in his drone strike he thought was isis k. I could go on but I'm sure you'll just make excuses for Biden like most do. Personally I think it's inexcusable.
@PinkMichae. 👍
@PinkMichae I agree with you about when Trump was president I made tons of money. I am waiting on expensive purchases such as a car or house until prices drop. I had to drop $900 to get my car fixed, then they wanted to charge me another $500 for something else. Did the work myself for $100.
@PinkMichae Well then. Lets revisit the Trump travel ban and explain why it had nothing to do with Covid19 and all to do with racism and/or appealing to his racist followers.
First and perhaps most importantly, they did not work. Not even slightly. We said they would not work and they did not, big surprise. So what made me and many others so certain that Trumps travel bans had not a snowballs chance in hell of actually working? Because they were politically motivated, as in the reason they existed where to score political points rather than stop the pandemic. This in turn means no one actually made sure there was a plan to follow it.
For example, the ban was more like "Travel restrictions" meaning people could still travel although to a more limited degree. This by itself does literally nothing to stop the spread since the virus dont care that a large number of people can't travel since it would just be transported by the few that can.
Limiting the travel is by itself perhaps not the worst idea if paired up with other measures. It could for example make a system of mandatory quarantine easier to enforce with fewer people or help with test and trace. If Trump and his government was actually serious about stopping Covid19 they would have followed up the travel bans with something else such as what New Zealand was doing.
So if the travel ban had nothing to do with stopping the pandemic and it was just a political move then why target certain countries and why avoid others?
First of lets just make a list:
Iran
Iraq
Libya
Somalia
Sudan
Syria
Yemen
Chad
North Korea
Venezuela
Eritrea
Kyrgyzstan
Myanmar
Nigeria
Tanzania
There are other travel restrictions during the Trump era but this is the one that ruffled the most feathers. Partially because its straight up racist and partially because Trump had tried to implement this list for 5 years already. Again, what argument could you POSSIBLY make that restricting travel to NORTH KOREA would somehow protect USA from covid as opposed to I dont know... maybe Italy? The very same Italy that had an early outbreak and have a lot of travel between itself and USA?
Also they successfully impeached Donald Trump. Twice. The fact that the Conservative party saved his bacon for political reasons does not change this nor the fact that Trump was unsuitable for the presidency.
As for what the Democrats did? They were not in power so they could not do anything. It is up to the Conservatives to do something and they failed. I also like to point out that you might not have struggled during Trumps time, many did however and even if you did not he basically financed your good times by taking on a lot of debt. It is not Bidens fault that he needs to deal with the consequences of Trumps mismanagement.
Trump has done more harm to the effort against Covid19 than any other human on earth. You could pile up hundreds of thousands of deaths at his feet alone for his effort in sabotaging the vaccine and the other preparations. Also if you want to talk about abandoning your allies, whatever happened to the Kurds in Syria?
Shhh! Don’t tell them!!
they're being blunt about it.
I don't know tbh sorry
Very unlikely
Hehehe. I hope so.