The individual doesn't produce culture. That's a collective effort, but since Americans reject anything collective that doesn't involve creating wars abroad or enforcing woke stuff, our communities are dying in front of us.
I guess it’s weird to be proud of anything that you had no part in contributing to.
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Again, individualists don't know the difference between To Be and To Have. According to you, To Be is To Buy, and individual needs are more important than community, culture and social bonds.
No, but I should be proud of being European-American and I do efforts to bring positive things to my community, and this is something I want to see other people do as well. Unfortunately, they don't do it because they have an individualistic mindset. White people see their neighbors sink in drugs and alcohol, commit suicide, get impoverished, but do nothing to solve it. The reason is that they lack a collective identity.
Pride is something forbidden for every people then since they all committed crimes and atrocities. Yes, that includes Jews and blacks. Jews for example turned the 2/3 of Palestinian population into refugees by means of ethnic cleansing. Why are you silent about that?
Well…yeah. In a perfect world we can say shit without people placing baggage on it. But Israel does have an ethno nationalist problem, like Americans did back in the day.
Because it's idiotic. It's fine to be proud of your culture. The whole concept of race is idiotic. 2 world wars weren't enough to get through your skill skin tones don't define or unite people?
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I'm referring to whites as a collective group with a shared experience, which includes culture, heritage and traditions. Not to race specifically.
yeah I as an Italian don't have much in common with a Southern American boy tbh. Your upbringing is going to affect you a lot more. You go from the USA to like Belarus for example things are gonna be WAY different between us. A black man in America is naturally going to have more in common with his white American counterparts then black men in the Congo.
Because there is no reason to be proud of being white, you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture, but being proud of "being white" seems pretty shallow, that's like being proud you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
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"you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture"
It's not the case for Americans, since they don't know exactly their roots and lost touch with their heritage and traditions. An American can either be proud of being white or European-American.
I guess my question would be why would someone feel the need to be proud of less pigmentation in their skin? Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging, etc. If you want to be proud of something, be proud of your accomplishments, be proud of what you do, your traditions, your culture and how you treat people, not the lack of melanin in your skin...
Smartass, it's obviously that I'm referring to whites as an ethnicity, which includes culture, heritage and traditions, it's just that European heritage has been erased from the American society due to consumerism and liquid modernity, so it's hard to specify what kind of European heritage we have since most Americans lost touch with their family heritage.
I think a Euro-American identity should be created and is necessary to provide meaning and sense of belonging to us, something that neither liquid modernity nor consumerism can do.
"Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging"
That's not the point here, but since you claimed something so dumb about the white skin color, I tell you that having a white skin is an EVOLUTIONARY trait.
White people are adapted to live in colder environments, especially at high latitude climates.
You shouldn't talk like a complete ignorant about how Mother Nature created us. Be grateful to Her.
Yeah but being white isn't an ethnicity... it's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder so I'm not gonna get into it, but the more you talk the more it's starting to sound like white power...
oh and a side note, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them and idiot. If you can't deal with opposing opinions, the internet might not be the best place for you.
Stop complaining, you said something extremely stupid and all called it out. Although I agree that we shouldn't be proud of our skin color by itself, evolution didn't give us a white skin to make us more prone to skin damage, skin cancer and the effects of aging, but to adapt us to a certain kind of environment.
And you said that because this topic evidently makes you uncomfortable. You knew that I'm arguing against a social taboo right from the beginning. And this is why you think I'm a "White Power" type: you can't understand why I don't make the same choice as yours, i. e., to concede to the comforting lies of our society and avoid heated discussions, to be proud of being a cultureless, atomized "individual."
"obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder"
It's hard not to resent the culture we live in these days. Liquid modernity is toxic, consumerism is toxic, individualism is toxic. This culture is a bizarre moment of human history. I'm trying to change it, while people like you would rather choose conformity.
Yes people with lighter skin tones do better in colder climates but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage. Are you telling me that is wrong?
"but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage"
In low latitudes only, where we aren't fully adapted to the environment. Notice how Southern Europeans have a darker skin tone than their Northern counterparts.
Both being proud or ashamed of your skin color is idiotic. It's not like you had anything to do with it.
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Being proud of your ethnicity and cultural background is not necessarily bad. It's what prevents people from becoming like Americans, I mean, cultureless boors.
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Do not let anyone make you feel ashamed of who you are and who your ancestors were.
It is NOT wrong to be proud of being white. Be proud of what you are despite what this cancel culture wants you to belive.
No because it's stupid and racist to scapegoat an entire race of people for the suffering of another.
It's not wrong to be thankful and satisfied with your own accomplishments, regardless of pigmentation.
Sense of belonging, culture, traditions, identity and heritage are evidently more important than one's accomplishments.
I view those as parts of ones' "accomplishments" - they belong if they choose to, they can accept prior traditions, etc.
The individual doesn't produce culture. That's a collective effort, but since Americans reject anything collective that doesn't involve creating wars abroad or enforcing woke stuff, our communities are dying in front of us.
It isn't. You should never feel ashamed of what you are.
If you don't think other races are worse, than yours, then it's nothing bad.
No it's not wrong to feel good about the race you were born as cause God created you in his image not others.
I cannot comprehend why you would be proud to be white. Nor can I comprehend why anything other than your own moral compass would be involved.
I'm proud of a lot of shit. However I'm only white because im not black.
Because those worthless snowflakes and SJW's want you to feel that way.
Why are you "proud" or "not proud" to be a color, or race, that you had nothing to do with being born into?
I guess it’s weird to be proud of anything that you had no part in contributing to.
Again, individualists don't know the difference between To Be and To Have. According to you, To Be is To Buy, and individual needs are more important than community, culture and social bonds.
I think you think that you said something deep but it’s just vague and doesn’t actually mean anything. Are you “proud” to have brown eyes too?
No, but I should be proud of being European-American and I do efforts to bring positive things to my community, and this is something I want to see other people do as well. Unfortunately, they don't do it because they have an individualistic mindset. White people see their neighbors sink in drugs and alcohol, commit suicide, get impoverished, but do nothing to solve it. The reason is that they lack a collective identity.
That is retarded.
Your mother is retarded. That pathetic bitch should have aborted a little shit like you.
Go troll someone else, you leftover if an abortion.
Technically not. But it’s just historically wrong. Because slavery.
"But it’s just historically wrong. Because slavery."
Non sequitur.
Not really. It’s like Germans telling Jews they have pride.
Pride is something forbidden for every people then since they all committed crimes and atrocities. Yes, that includes Jews and blacks. Jews for example turned the 2/3 of Palestinian population into refugees by means of ethnic cleansing. Why are you silent about that?
Well…yeah. In a perfect world we can say shit without people placing baggage on it. But Israel does have an ethno nationalist problem, like Americans did back in the day.
So, according to your own logic, Jews have no reason to feel prpud of themselves. Be consistent with your values and tell them that.
Just for being Jewish? No.
Because it's idiotic. It's fine to be proud of your culture. The whole concept of race is idiotic. 2 world wars weren't enough to get through your skill skin tones don't define or unite people?
I'm referring to whites as a collective group with a shared experience, which includes culture, heritage and traditions. Not to race specifically.
yeah I as an Italian don't have much in common with a Southern American boy tbh. Your upbringing is going to affect you a lot more. You go from the USA to like Belarus for example things are gonna be WAY different between us. A black man in America is naturally going to have more in common with his white American counterparts then black men in the Congo.
No is wrong to be proud, but withim the limits of common sense.
Because there is no reason to be proud of being white, you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture, but being proud of "being white" seems pretty shallow, that's like being proud you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
"you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture"
It's not the case for Americans, since they don't know exactly their roots and lost touch with their heritage and traditions. An American can either be proud of being white or European-American.
I guess my question would be why would someone feel the need to be proud of less pigmentation in their skin? Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging, etc. If you want to be proud of something, be proud of your accomplishments, be proud of what you do, your traditions, your culture and how you treat people, not the lack of melanin in your skin...
"proud of less pigmentation in their skin?"
Smartass, it's obviously that I'm referring to whites as an ethnicity, which includes culture, heritage and traditions, it's just that European heritage has been erased from the American society due to consumerism and liquid modernity, so it's hard to specify what kind of European heritage we have since most Americans lost touch with their family heritage.
I think a Euro-American identity should be created and is necessary to provide meaning and sense of belonging to us, something that neither liquid modernity nor consumerism can do.
"Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging"
That's not the point here, but since you claimed something so dumb about the white skin color, I tell you that having a white skin is an EVOLUTIONARY trait.
White people are adapted to live in colder environments, especially at high latitude climates.
You shouldn't talk like a complete ignorant about how Mother Nature created us. Be grateful to Her.
Yeah but being white isn't an ethnicity... it's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder so I'm not gonna get into it, but the more you talk the more it's starting to sound like white power...
oh and a side note, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them and idiot. If you can't deal with opposing opinions, the internet might not be the best place for you.
Stop complaining, you said something extremely stupid and all called it out. Although I agree that we shouldn't be proud of our skin color by itself, evolution didn't give us a white skin to make us more prone to skin damage, skin cancer and the effects of aging, but to adapt us to a certain kind of environment.
And you said that because this topic evidently makes you uncomfortable. You knew that I'm arguing against a social taboo right from the beginning. And this is why you think I'm a "White Power" type: you can't understand why I don't make the same choice as yours, i. e., to concede to the comforting lies of our society and avoid heated discussions, to be proud of being a cultureless, atomized "individual."
"obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder"
It's hard not to resent the culture we live in these days. Liquid modernity is toxic, consumerism is toxic, individualism is toxic. This culture is a bizarre moment of human history. I'm trying to change it, while people like you would rather choose conformity.
Yes people with lighter skin tones do better in colder climates but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage. Are you telling me that is wrong?
"but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage"
In low latitudes only, where we aren't fully adapted to the environment. Notice how Southern Europeans have a darker skin tone than their Northern counterparts.
If it wasn't for our heritage, we wouldn't be here.
Why is it wrong to be proud to be black?
It's not wrong.
That’s my answer
I'm proud to be white and also thankful to God for making me white.
You should Be grateful to what you are.
Both being proud or ashamed of your skin color is idiotic. It's not like you had anything to do with it.
Being proud of your ethnicity and cultural background is not necessarily bad. It's what prevents people from becoming like Americans, I mean, cultureless boors.
There's Nothing wrong in it...