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How do we together, reconcile the more traditional views regarding men and relationships with modern feminism? (Page 2)
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Reconcile? The "more traditional views" basically meant constraining the lives of women.
Welcome to this broken world
Where only fools believe that broken people can cure it
Conservative values are not broke so what needs to be fixed.
I took this as traditional ways of dating like before tinder and over opinionated youtubers giving theirs "tricks" n such. It seems to have created more unrealistic views and superficial relationships
Modern feminism hates men, and nothing can reconcile that with any views that men have.
Even those who are low enough to follow it are hated by modern feminists.
They're pretty much polar opposites, there's little to no room for reconciliation. The problem is exactly that - one is not possible with the other.
You can't. They spend too much time practicing the opposite of what they preach to be reliable on fixing the problem.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oh man I sure hope this isn't how you think your gonna get laid... even the ugly ass feminists think male feminists are lame
And yet here I am married to one.
That sucks
Not a fan of being a ATM to women and to feel like my value is my income.
Or cornering girls and invade their personal space short of raping them.
Just gotta tell right ringers to man up and get over it.
we don't have to. feminists are dying, not reproducing and not happy. all we have to do is wait.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 lol actually I think it is the mysogyinistic men with superioroty complexes that dying out...
@Subarugirl hope so.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 In 2008 yale put out a paper called the paradoxical decline of female happiness law.yale.edu/.../...iningFemaleHappiness_Dec08.pdf which showed that women’s happiness goes down the more you give them these independent jobs and roles
also, feminist birth rate is 3x lower than republican
they're not happy. they give up and become housewives if they still can
Funny how everyone's happiness index went down not just women's. It's not because you give them freedom, it's the results of the society we have today.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 the happiness levels of left wing women vs right wing women is astounding. right wing women are much happier.
Women who earn more than their man are less satisfied with the relationship onlinelibrary.wiley.com/.../jomf.12653
Women who are housewives are happier across all cultures https://www.jstor.org/stable/41682634
the higher your education is the more likely you are to be unhappy... so what exactly is your point?
@Subarugirl feminism is biologically and evolutionarily not sustainable. they don't breed, they are sad, they don't pass on their values. the breakdown in sadness is clearly one sided. it only affects the left wing women
Lol that is the dumbest most unscientific thing I have heard today LMAO gender equality and equal opportunity is sustainable
@Subarugirl everything shows it's not, the feminists can't reproduce
@007kingifrit I have no question they are.
Right wing women are more conservative so they fall into the stay at home housewife stereotype and like it.
While on the left we have women that work, that do what the others do while having more responsibilities. So of course they have more stressful lives. On average.
Ask then if they would like to change it. They wouldn't.
About that... Both my wife and my sisters are feminists. The stereotype is that they hate men and think marriage is a prison right? Well both got married. Both love their husbands. And both want to have children.
Now what?
Lmao I know plenty of feminist who have given birth to children... In fact my best friend's baby is about to turn one and my sister in law is currently pregnant with her 3rd
@Subarugirl anecdotal, disregarded
you also need to have 3 minimum to genetically count. and you also aren't having enough to be competitive
Lmao she's pregnant with her 3rd and keep in mind these are women in their mid 20s, they are more likely than not going to be having more children... how many children do you have? lol
@Subarugirl i don't believe you but also, anecdotal. we have the data on this. feminists are not having kids
You don’t have to believe me… facts don’t just suddenly become irrelevant if they contradict your beliefs honey. It’s time to grow up, this is the real world lol
Are assuming that all republicans are not feminists? Are you assuming that all democrats are?
Regardless just because conservative religious women have more kids, doesn't means feminists don't. They might have less. Who cares? They still do.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 feminists are only on the left
and you need to have an average of 3 kids per woman for your ideology to survive
That is not true. Right now 61% of American women see themselves as feminists. Unless that's the amount of left leaning women.
But in this case then you are even more out of luck.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 less than 1/3 of American woman identify as feminists www.ipsos.com/.../american-women-and-feminism
where did you get your source?
That is from 2019. Here is more recent data.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
I have searched more and there are many outlets quoting that study.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 well here's anothe rone in the 30s today.yougov.com/.../feminism-american-women-2018
but also many women can be peer pressured easily into giving the social media approved answer which is yes, so you can take 1/2 off of any poll.
@007kingifrit anecdotal, disregarded
@Subarugirl nothing i posted was anecdotal. all studies
That is from 2018.
"pressured easily into giving the social media approved answer which is yes, so you can take 1/2 off of any poll. "...… that doesn't sound like a study to me, more like an anecdotal opinion that supports what ever poor argument that you are trying to make...
@Subarugirl that's what all properly trained social science experts will do. a poll is a tool , not a bible. it must be contextualized and in this case that means many women will say they are feminist but aren't
but i gave 2 sources that say they're only around 30%
Are you familiar with the term confirmation bias... if not you should read up on it.
Even if just 30%. It's a third of the women population. That's a lot.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 not really
If you really think feminism will die out you do you. In a few years we will talk.
Like Older and wiser said, why should God and Satan reconcile? How about God just kill satan?
There are ways to do this, agreed
The feminist is going to have to come around
in 99% of the World... this is a Non-issue
You couldn't be more wrong. Feminism has infected even China, Japan, most of Africa, and most of South America. Traditional relationships and values have become the exception rather than the norm worldwide, with only strict Muslim countries being the exception.
Feminist =cancer
You can’t