I love watching Liberal Heads explode over fake news.
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I am looking forward to people being more responsible about sex, but not to the thought of a birth control ban. I don't believe that will actually happen though.
This is what happens when there isn't a separation of church and state. Let a cult designed to control large populations be in control and that is exactly what they are going to do.
If that's true as long as condoms are still a thing I won't care
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Why would I look forward to it? Nothing was won. This wasn't a fight. Now murders of innocent childrenare going to be prevented because of it. And that's a good thing.
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When you say children will be saved are you talking about abortion bans or gun control?
Supreme Court expansion is not the answer. Putting an actual law on the books is the answer.
The Democrats currently have the majority in the House Of Representatives and Vice President Harris is the tiebreaker as the President Of The Senate, which is currently 50-50. Joe Biden is the current President. If Democrats wanted to get something done, they can do it now. It'll pass the House, it'll pass the Senate (or Harris will break the tie in the Senate), and Biden would sign it into law.
However let's be realistic. We both know the Democrats aren't going to do anything. They could've done something starting January 20, 2021, long before this decision was ever handed down, once Biden was inaugurated. Anger and discord gins up political money. There's no political fund raising money to be made on either side when issues are actually resolved.
@NYCQuestions1976 Your point is well taken. Perhaps the strategy was to wait until now and THEN do as you suggest prior to the mid-term elections. Or, wait and use it as a major selling point in both '22 and '24.
That's the problem. On both sides. It's always about money and selling points. Not solutions. There should be a reasonable pro-choice law and demarcation in place. Somewhere between 12 and 16 weeks (most European countries are set between 12 and 14 weeks), with obvious allowances for medical issues and emergencies beyond that set demarcation. Instead, now we have states that won't allow any abortions, and we have states that will allow third trimester abortions, no questions asked... and now the money flows even more on both sides. It's a "perfect" circle.
As another example, the government can fix the illegal immigration issue by streamlining the legal immigration process, which would significantly reduce or even virtually eliminate illegal immigration. They don't, because both sides want illegal immigration. Then conservatives use them for cheap labor while simultaneously complaining that they're here, and liberals harvest them for votes and complain that they're mistreated. It's a "perfect" circle.
Actual political solutions mean nothing, and have no cash value. We all exist and live our everyday lives in a giant DMV building. https://youtu.be/Yz3bDON9bNo
@NYCQuestions1976 I'm in agreement with your analysis. The funny thing is, however, that all those illegals could be here legally, but not permanently, with a little temporary work card. It wouldn't mean they get to work for more money, it's still an employer's market. But it could end some of border nonsense. Of course, as you said, any sort of "solution" doesn't really benefit either party at the polls, does it?
Two things, why do leftists think presidents make laws but have no control over foreign policy and international affairs that cause supply chain issues and ridiculous gas prices?
The fact that you don't even understand basic civics like what each branch of government is responsible for explains so much.
But also, no they can't pack the court. The Republicans will filibuster that for 4 months and we all know they are taking a huge majority in both houses come November. Also, a lot of democrats don't support it. Manchin already said he won't vote for that so you don't have the majority to do it now.
It's childish. "Democrats" want to rewrite the rules so they can get their way without going through the democratic process and they say anyone who wants to put it to a vote is destroying democracy.
But, jokes on you, democracy works. You don't have the votes in congress and you won't get them because your policies are so bad an 80% Hispanic district just went red for the first time since the 1800's.
Its like a pack of 4 year olds who have to wait in line for the waterside trying to tell daddy to fix it for them. Jokes on you, Biden doesn't singlehandedly make laws. That isn't how democracy works.
He can try. But the court is there to protect the rest of us from tyrants and they are doing a fantastic job.
They didn't ban abortion. They gave people the right to vote on it.
You can elect a state legislation to pass laws saying all babies must be aborted at 33 weeks if you want. But only if the majority votes for it.
@Lost_in_the_Woods I agree (neither side can pack the Supreme Court, because it's a never-ending spiral) and disagree (it's about money and politics, not solutions and democracy).
But the decision to place the legislative power to regulate abortion back with the (state) legislators is restoring a semolina of democracy to that one particular issue.
Laws shouldn't be decided by any number of life long unelected officials. Laws should be made by the representatives elected by the people.
I feel like it's pretty obvious that most people in Texas think abortion should be illegal and most people in California think it should be legal and maybe even subsidized.
So I feel like common sense says if democracy worked, it would be illegal in Texas and legal in California.
And hey, now the reality looks a lot more like a functional democracy.
It's not men vs women. Many women strongly oppose abortion. Many men strongly support it. It almost always effects one man and one woman. It's an issue that should be decided by the majority vote. And, I think that, and most other laws should be legislated on a state level.
My point is simply that people who want to disassemble the system just so they can force or prevent legislation in Texas that the majority of Texans don't agree with aren't supporting or protecting democracy. They are blatantly trying to ignore democracy and force their personal beliefs on someone else.
My personal belief is that abortion should be allowed. But that is superseded by my philosophical belief in democracy. Texas should get to vote for the laws they want. Killing your unborn child isn't a universal human right. It's controversial and against a lot of people's moral and religious beliefs.
I think we should abolish speed limits and have far stricter punishments for harming someone else with a vehicle. But that's my opinion. I don't think anyone should circumvent the democratic process to enforce my will on the nation.
Both sides want what they want. But I see an outcome where the people can vote on what they want and majority can rule on both sides as the best possible compromise. That is democracy working how it was intended to.
The people who have a problem with that need to understand they are not supporting democracy, they are trying to disassemble it to kill a fetus and I'm 100% more concerned about the fact that they think they should be able to dictate the law than the fact that they want to kill a fetus.
Packing the court is a non issue. It won't happen. Same goes for banning birth control.
The issue is there is a huge number of people who think people I'm Texas voting for a law they want and that law going into effect is "destroying democracy" and the solution is to have a single person force the entire nation to be governed by a law that is hugly controversial and was not passed by means of democratic legislation.
That would be the death of democracy. Not people voting for the laws that they want and the majority opinion being passed by local legislators.
I also want all the woke liberals to move to California and New York so we can have some places where common sense is common again and they can see how their policies work out without ruining my life.
@Asker No, they're traditional Democrats, not liberal and socialist woke fools. Both Manchin and Sinema would vote to codify a pro-choice law. What they won't vote for is an illogical and unnecessary expansion of abortion laws. No country in Europe allows non-emergency abortions beyond 14 weeks. There's no reason the demarcation can't be close to the same here. Crazy pro-abortionists in this country want the demarcation set at 24 weeks or higher. That's ridiculous. No normal person in a non-emergency situation needs 24+ weeks to figure out what choice they're going to make.
@Lost_in_the_Woods The fact that you even "think" that a single person has control over a supply chain COMPLETELY invalidates your views on economics. Good Lord. It's laughable.
The transportation secretary has absolutely no effect on national transportation, the DoT and the port authorities have no control over shipping, and provoking a war with Russia has no effect on fuel prices which in turn have nothing to do with the cost of shipping.
And hey, it's not like the DNC funded lab that created the covid 19 virus had anything to do with the shelves going empty.
But yeah, the fact that you think the president is one person and don't understand they appoint an entire cabinet that runs the whole executive branch of the government tells me you must have gone to one of those city schools where kids leave without knowing basic math.
And that explains a lot. Especially your desperate need for validation to keep your feelings intact.
@Lost_in_the_Woods I find it funny, as in "funny pathetic", not "funny ha-ha", that something like the nation's transportation system can be so fucked up for years and no administration does a thing to improve yet. But when someone of the party you don't approve gets appointed to a position, the whole thing becomes "their fault" overnight.
When no administration did a thing since FDR to try and improve Health Care, which is beyond a Herculean task, the Clinton Administration tried and Hilary got bitch slapped by the industry and the Republicans and it went nowhere. The Bush's did nothing, then Obama pushed throught the Affordable Care Act. Definitely far from perfect, but something better for millions and millions.
Instead of making it better, the Repubs solution was tear it down and replace it with - nothing. Same old shit. Status quo, but still, they have no workable alternative and for the most part are unwilling to improve what's there.
The whole system, the whole attitude of misinformation and disinformation, is just pathetic.
No one is going to ban birth control. That's just a story people are making up to get people pissed off at SCOTUS and fuel the fire.
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You should read the Supreme Court opinion about that and read what Republican lawmakers SAID they are going to do when they regain control. It would be helpful for you to look at what people are really saying before making comments about how it will never happen.
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I really wish you idiots knew how the government works.
Sometimes the only way forward is to push back so far people are forced to realize how terrible things have gotten.
I love watching Liberal Heads explode over fake news.
I am looking forward to people being more responsible about sex, but not to the thought of a birth control ban. I don't believe that will actually happen though.
There is NO ban on birth control. The USSC decision simply turned the law back over to the States.
Anyone who opposes contraception is a backward fool who needs to go back to the Middle Ages and die there.
Clarence Thomas is one person. The other 8 do not agree with him. This will not happen. Period.
I'm looking forward to a whole generation of unwanted kids breaking into conservative people's houses and stealing their bibles.
Most people use electronic Bible's lol... only the old ones may suffer or just learn to adapt
@LovingLoverReturned the Necronomicon cannot be digital!
No idea what that is
Why not?
You said stealing their Bibles.. in modern world Bible is only referring to the holy book of Jews (partial book) and Christians
@LovingLoverReturned bible means "book" and the Necronomicon is a book. THE book.
The Necronomicon Ex-Mortis doesn't exist because Ash Williams destroyed it.
that's what the Dark Ones want you to think. The Necronomicon cannot be destroyed!
Just stop the scaremongering. It’s not going to happen.
I didn’t believe RVW would be over turned this seems intense but I don’t trust the integrity of the court at this point
This is what happens when there isn't a separation of church and state. Let a cult designed to control large populations be in control and that is exactly what they are going to do.
they already banned abortion, so they gotta be retarded to ban birth control too
How would the Supreme Court ban contraceptives when they don’t make laws?
No they are not. The RVW opinion excludes any other precedent. Your question is fear porn.
Erm... no they aren't
Hence your question is moot.
If that's true as long as condoms are still a thing I won't care
Why would I look forward to it? Nothing was won. This wasn't a fight. Now murders of innocent childrenare going to be prevented because of it. And that's a good thing.
When you say children will be saved are you talking about abortion bans or gun control?
Biden should have expanded the Supreme Court by 2 justices the day he was elected. Fucking idiot.
Supreme Court expansion is not the answer. Putting an actual law on the books is the answer.
The Democrats currently have the majority in the House Of Representatives and Vice President Harris is the tiebreaker as the President Of The Senate, which is currently 50-50. Joe Biden is the current President. If Democrats wanted to get something done, they can do it now. It'll pass the House, it'll pass the Senate (or Harris will break the tie in the Senate), and Biden would sign it into law.
However let's be realistic. We both know the Democrats aren't going to do anything. They could've done something starting January 20, 2021, long before this decision was ever handed down, once Biden was inaugurated. Anger and discord gins up political money. There's no political fund raising money to be made on either side when issues are actually resolved.
@NYCQuestions1976 Your point is well taken. Perhaps the strategy was to wait until now and THEN do as you suggest prior to the mid-term elections. Or, wait and use it as a major selling point in both '22 and '24.
That's the problem. On both sides. It's always about money and selling points. Not solutions. There should be a reasonable pro-choice law and demarcation in place. Somewhere between 12 and 16 weeks (most European countries are set between 12 and 14 weeks), with obvious allowances for medical issues and emergencies beyond that set demarcation. Instead, now we have states that won't allow any abortions, and we have states that will allow third trimester abortions, no questions asked... and now the money flows even more on both sides. It's a "perfect" circle.
As another example, the government can fix the illegal immigration issue by streamlining the legal immigration process, which would significantly reduce or even virtually eliminate illegal immigration. They don't, because both sides want illegal immigration. Then conservatives use them for cheap labor while simultaneously complaining that they're here, and liberals harvest them for votes and complain that they're mistreated. It's a "perfect" circle.
Actual political solutions mean nothing, and have no cash value. We all exist and live our everyday lives in a giant DMV building.
https://youtu.be/Yz3bDON9bNo
@NYCQuestions1976 I'm in agreement with your analysis. The funny thing is, however, that all those illegals could be here legally, but not permanently, with a little temporary work card. It wouldn't mean they get to work for more money, it's still an employer's market. But it could end some of border nonsense. Of course, as you said, any sort of "solution" doesn't really benefit either party at the polls, does it?
Two things, why do leftists think presidents make laws but have no control over foreign policy and international affairs that cause supply chain issues and ridiculous gas prices?
The fact that you don't even understand basic civics like what each branch of government is responsible for explains so much.
But also, no they can't pack the court. The Republicans will filibuster that for 4 months and we all know they are taking a huge majority in both houses come November. Also, a lot of democrats don't support it. Manchin already said he won't vote for that so you don't have the majority to do it now.
It's childish. "Democrats" want to rewrite the rules so they can get their way without going through the democratic process and they say anyone who wants to put it to a vote is destroying democracy.
But, jokes on you, democracy works. You don't have the votes in congress and you won't get them because your policies are so bad an 80% Hispanic district just went red for the first time since the 1800's.
Its like a pack of 4 year olds who have to wait in line for the waterside trying to tell daddy to fix it for them. Jokes on you, Biden doesn't singlehandedly make laws. That isn't how democracy works.
He can try. But the court is there to protect the rest of us from tyrants and they are doing a fantastic job.
They didn't ban abortion. They gave people the right to vote on it.
You can elect a state legislation to pass laws saying all babies must be aborted at 33 weeks if you want. But only if the majority votes for it.
@Lost_in_the_Woods I agree (neither side can pack the Supreme Court, because it's a never-ending spiral) and disagree (it's about money and politics, not solutions and democracy).
Oh absolutely, both sides want money and power.
But the decision to place the legislative power to regulate abortion back with the (state) legislators is restoring a semolina of democracy to that one particular issue.
Laws shouldn't be decided by any number of life long unelected officials. Laws should be made by the representatives elected by the people.
I feel like it's pretty obvious that most people in Texas think abortion should be illegal and most people in California think it should be legal and maybe even subsidized.
So I feel like common sense says if democracy worked, it would be illegal in Texas and legal in California.
And hey, now the reality looks a lot more like a functional democracy.
It's not men vs women. Many women strongly oppose abortion. Many men strongly support it. It almost always effects one man and one woman. It's an issue that should be decided by the majority vote. And, I think that, and most other laws should be legislated on a state level.
My point is simply that people who want to disassemble the system just so they can force or prevent legislation in Texas that the majority of Texans don't agree with aren't supporting or protecting democracy. They are blatantly trying to ignore democracy and force their personal beliefs on someone else.
My personal belief is that abortion should be allowed. But that is superseded by my philosophical belief in democracy. Texas should get to vote for the laws they want. Killing your unborn child isn't a universal human right. It's controversial and against a lot of people's moral and religious beliefs.
I think we should abolish speed limits and have far stricter punishments for harming someone else with a vehicle. But that's my opinion. I don't think anyone should circumvent the democratic process to enforce my will on the nation.
Both sides want what they want. But I see an outcome where the people can vote on what they want and majority can rule on both sides as the best possible compromise. That is democracy working how it was intended to.
The people who have a problem with that need to understand they are not supporting democracy, they are trying to disassemble it to kill a fetus and I'm 100% more concerned about the fact that they think they should be able to dictate the law than the fact that they want to kill a fetus.
Packing the court is a non issue. It won't happen. Same goes for banning birth control.
The issue is there is a huge number of people who think people I'm Texas voting for a law they want and that law going into effect is "destroying democracy" and the solution is to have a single person force the entire nation to be governed by a law that is hugly controversial and was not passed by means of democratic legislation.
That would be the death of democracy. Not people voting for the laws that they want and the majority opinion being passed by local legislators.
I'm not pro life.
I'm pro democracy.
I also want all the woke liberals to move to California and New York so we can have some places where common sense is common again and they can see how their policies work out without ruining my life.
@NYCQuestions1976
"The Democrats currently have the majority"
It's not a majority when Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are Republicans.
@Asker No, they're traditional Democrats, not liberal
and socialist woke fools. Both Manchin and Sinema would vote to codify a pro-choice law. What they won't vote for is an illogical and unnecessary expansion of abortion laws. No country in Europe allows non-emergency abortions beyond 14 weeks.
There's no reason the demarcation can't be close to the same here. Crazy pro-abortionists in this country want the demarcation set at 24 weeks or higher. That's ridiculous. No normal person in a non-emergency situation needs 24+ weeks to figure out what choice they're going to make.
@Lost_in_the_Woods The fact that you even "think" that a single person has control over a supply chain COMPLETELY invalidates your views on economics. Good Lord. It's laughable.
The transportation secretary has absolutely no effect on national transportation, the DoT and the port authorities have no control over shipping, and provoking a war with Russia has no effect on fuel prices which in turn have nothing to do with the cost of shipping.
And hey, it's not like the DNC funded lab that created the covid 19 virus had anything to do with the shelves going empty.
But yeah, the fact that you think the president is one person and don't understand they appoint an entire cabinet that runs the whole executive branch of the government tells me you must have gone to one of those city schools where kids leave without knowing basic math.
And that explains a lot. Especially your desperate need for validation to keep your feelings intact.
But hey, honestly question...
If Pete doesn't have any control over the supply train, what exactly are we paying him for?
Because we sure as shit agree he isn't fixing any of the problems, and we could all use the extra cash to pay for fuel.
#FireMayorPete.
Because even smooth brain leftists agree our transportation networks are out of control and he is too incompetent to fix it.
@Lost_in_the_Woods I find it funny, as in "funny pathetic", not "funny ha-ha", that something like the nation's transportation system can be so fucked up for years and no administration does a thing to improve yet. But when someone of the party you don't approve gets appointed to a position, the whole thing becomes "their fault" overnight.
When no administration did a thing since FDR to try and improve Health Care, which is beyond a Herculean task, the Clinton Administration tried and Hilary got bitch slapped by the industry and the Republicans and it went nowhere. The Bush's did nothing, then Obama pushed throught the Affordable Care Act. Definitely far from perfect, but something better for millions and millions.
Instead of making it better, the Repubs solution was tear it down and replace it with - nothing. Same old shit. Status quo, but still, they have no workable alternative and for the most part are unwilling to improve what's there.
The whole system, the whole attitude of misinformation and disinformation, is just pathetic.
No one is going to ban birth control. That's just a story people are making up to get people pissed off at SCOTUS and fuel the fire.
You should read the Supreme Court opinion about that and read what Republican lawmakers SAID they are going to do when they regain control. It would be helpful for you to look at what people are really saying before making comments about how it will never happen.
The amount of assholes that voted yes is scary. It shouldn't even be a 22% yes result, live your life and fuck off other people's.