Why do Americans hate America?

[Anonymous]

I can understand not liking certain ideas and policies and as for slavery black people we gotta let that one go the black community will never prosper if we keep clinging to this victimization that’s how losers think but I digress America the only home a lot of us have ever known and it’s usually the most privileged people who live the most blessed lives who claim to hate this country so much and I just can’t wrap my head around it America isn’t perfect but what country is? I am a firm believer in United we stand Wouldn’t it be much more productive to try to fix this country together rather than protesting and burning our flag ( which is treason by the way )

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[OpenClose]

I can't say I "hate" America. It's more like the frustration of knowing what we can be and what we became famous for in the first place. A lot of it involved world-leading changes. But we've seemed to stubbornly refuse change and I'm watching us decline because of it.

For instance, we could have been world leaders in solar cell production, but lost out to China in a lucrative market because we insist climate change is a myth. You don't have to believe in the premise to hop onto that gravy train.

Or we used to have some of the bigger workers' rights revolutions, but now insist that Amazon workers pissing in bottles is what "makes America great".

Our foreign policy used to be "We're not going to butt in." Followed by "OK, we're going to butt in, but your Treaty of Versailles is asking for another world war" and then once the dust clears, not only rebuilding our allies, but our prior adversaries as well.

We also could have had CERN right here in our back yard. Or rather, the Superconducting Supercollider project in Texas. Axed in '93. Every major discovery in particle physics this century has gone to central Europe, and that could have been us.

We always had a distinct advantage of being a brain suck for world-leading talent, while also having the raw industrial prowess to put our ideas into action. Of course in the hands of neocons and neolibs, we got that "giant sucking sound" as our industrial prowess moved overseas, and a brain drain as talent wanted to follow industry. I live in the Rust Belt and worked in automotive manufacturing for a while. You can still hear the sucking sound here.

But yeah, it's mostly that we used to take the lead in a lot of things. Showed the world "different can be better". But then started sitting, like a banker who made millions from nothing, followed by a son who merely inherited it and decides to just sit on it. Or worse yet, we'll stubbornly refuse new things that could be to our benefit. Being a great country is not a destination, it is an active process.

So it isn't hate in my case, it's more like watching a loved one go from bold and ambitious to lying in bed in atrophy, staring at a wall of college trophies they have since stopped receiving.

[Kaneki05]

Better question is why do people love a landmass that has no meaning other than we can walk on it? Or why do people love a flag that has no meaning other than it waves. People shouldn't always give meanings to things and form a pride around them.
Oh no I just burnt a flag, the world just ended lol.
Humans have to put importance in some stuff because we aren't capable of not doing so but come on there is better things than just a thing that waves.

Also ya know what gets people to follow into a war those exact meanings leading to countless pointless deaths. So that man bought into propaganda and pride that if it did not exist would of saved him a lot of trouble. But sighs cannot change people's tribalism even plants and animals are territory.

[Asker]

I was born here this place or landmass means a lot to me

[Kaneki05]

I'm sure that's what people who followed hitler said to. Or any other leader to their country like sheep. You're part of the problem.

[Asker]

How am I part of the problem for loving my home?

[Kaneki05]

Already explained why but it makes sense you didn't understand most people don't which is why so many lives have been lost to pointless war. Good luck with following whatever president in America next decides to send you guys to east again because "it's your duty" and never ask yourself why do they always send the poor. ;)

[Bratsondanielle]

Happy 4th of July. Most Americans love America. Greatest country in the world

[loveslongnails]

Here's the problem - exactly what do you mean by "America" in this example?
Our mostly ignorant, or corrupt leaders who form our country's policies?
The mostly ignorant, 7th grade reading level general population that can't correctly answer "what are the 3 branches of American government"?
The multinational business that care only for profits and not employees?

What are we talking about?

Yes, I love the fact that we have more freedoms in this country than many others. I love a lot of things about the USA. But I also hate to see that 1/3 of the population lives in or just above poverty, and we're one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

There's a lot to love and a lot to loathe about the USA. Personally, I think the "love it or leave it" folks are the least patriotic and among the dumbest there are. It's BECAUSE I love it that I want to change it for the better.

[ZackBan]

It's called blissful ignorance.

Most people don't know that the world is ugly all around and in certain corners is horrifying.

In the grand scheme of things america remains one of the best places to live.

The fact is people make a huge deal out of everything these days.

Some talk about slavery like there are still people in balls and chains even though the last person who truly was a slave has long been dead.

Gun violence when one person in a population of 300 million shoots a group of people.
There are countries of 5 million where hundreds shoot thousands everyday.

People think it can be perfect but america is too big to be perfect when you have this much people living on such a vast land things will happen here and there but it's still safer than so many other places.

[Zeus_66]

We Americans have become self absorbed and spoiled rotten. And it's getting quite annoying. The "hate" that you speak of stems from the lack of accountability for one's actions. And because of this, groups have taken control of the country, oppressing individuals. The individual, not groups, is THE most important part of being an American. We are all different for a million reasons. But we're all the same because we value the same liberty and freedom afforded to us. Groups have stripped away individual thought from so many people. Until we can restore the priority of individualism in our great nation, we're going to continue struggling as a country. And for no reason other than political hacks collectivizing power and stripping our rights.

[FunkyMonkee]

It's not the country we hate so much as the mentally disturbed fool running the place into the ground, right!!

[Asker]

There are ways to deal with that without people rioting and burning down neighborhoods this isn’t the first , the worst or the last fool we’ve put in charge

[FunkyMonkee]

I know. It's called, "the 2nd Amendment"!

[goaded]

No, they're called elections. Violently imposing your will is called terrorism or treason.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded What's happen to the country BECAUSE of the guy in charge is called, treason!! If we see fit to forcibly oust him, that's our RIGHT!
Obviously, elections don't do shit if both sides aren't gonna play fair!!

[goaded]

No, that's not how democracy works.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded What's democracy got to do with it? We have a Constitution. Like it or not, that gives us the right and ability to do it.

[goaded]

The constitution relies on democracy. It's the bedrock principle that ensures a peaceful transition of power after the people have had their say. Some minority deciding they're not going to accept the results of a democratic election because they've been lied to about it are acting against the constitution, not for it.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded The people spoke. They wanted Trump!! The only minority contesting that are the few living people that were stupid enough to vote for Joe!! Joe is SEVERELY fucking up the country and we, the MAJORITY of the people in this country, have the Constitutional RIGHT to forcible oust him because of that!! THAT'S what the 2nd Amendment is all about!!

[FunkyMonkee]

But WE didn't put him in charge!! HE put him in charge!! I'd be willing to bet Hitlary had something to do with it,. too!! Joe's too incredibly stupid to have figured this out all by himself!!

[goaded]

No. Biden won.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded No, he cheated.

[goaded]

No, he didn't. Trump was and is a clear and present danger to the United States, and people turned out to vote him out.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded Only to people that don't have a brain..

[goaded]

No, it's obvious to the whole world Trump lost, especially with all the evidence coming out about how Trump knew he was sending armed supporters to "fight" to illegally overturn the election, knowing he'd lost (after his peaceful but still illegal pressuring of election officials and having co-conspiritors forging official documents). Of course marks like you have given him hundreds of millions of dollars based on his lies. He loves the uneducated.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded Only to incredibly stupid people like you! The rest of the world KNOWS Joe cheated!!
Sounds like CNN has REALLY done a number on YOU!!

[goaded]

I don't know the last time I watched any CNN, and every reputable media outlet around the world says Trump lost. Not to mention the US courts, the US Congress, and all 50 states. You really ought to give reality a try. And look up the "rule of law"; it's something Republicans used to claim to believe in.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded Then, obviously, those aren't the reputable ones! Most aren't.

[goaded]

Or, and try to follow closely here: Trump lied about the election.

[FunkyMonkee]

@goaded Try to follow closely here: you're full of shit and have no clue what you're talking about!

[goaded]

Trump lies. A lot. It's either him lying, or all 50 states' election officials (half of whom are Republicans), the US judicial system, and the world-wide media.

[Fireguy17]

Because it's the hip and trendy thing to do, yet they don't move to somewhere else, so it can't be that bad.

[Asker]

Apparently we aren’t free enough …ridiculous

[exitseven]

A lot of these people are victims of the indoctrination of our schools. They are taught that America is racist and was founded on racism.

[Asker]

Yes I wasn’t surprised actually to learn that they only teach one side of the story in school

[slatyb]

No, burning the flag is not treason, it's political speech. It's freedom of conscience, which includes the freedom to protest, that makes this country great. The flag is just a symbol of the nation and of the Constitution including the Bill of Rights and particularly the First Amendment

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

That's what makes this country great, and makes our form of government worth protecting. Today's protesters are tomorrow's heroes. Can't abide protest that makes you uncomfortable? That's anti-American.

[Asker]

Give me one good reason to burn the flag we all know what the constitution says but it’s not about that it’s a matter of respect the people who gave their lives for that flag didn’t do it so ungrateful future generations can desecrate it

[Asker]

You might as well go to Arlington and spit on their graves

[slatyb]

Those soldiers in Arlington? You don't speak for them. You didn't fight with them. They fought for freedom, and the right to protest is a key to that freedom. They didn't give their lives to protect a piece of cloth. The flag is just a symbol of our constitutional democracy. They gave their lives to protect American democracy and American freedom, and freedom means the right to speak one's mind in whatever way one chooses. Treason? That happened on January 6, 2021.

[Asker]

And what you do speak for them? I know those men would never consider the flag as just a piece of cloth it means so much more than that

[slatyb]

Did you serve with them?

[Reaper1985]

cooperate media and fear is used to control the masses because if the lower and middle classes ever banded together they could over throw the upper class.

[Asker]

Big facts💯 Can’t control us if we aren’t at each other throats

[FilmGuy93]

Imagine being so coddled and so sheltered that you can't percieve a reality where your blessings are anything but oppression.

[Asker]

That’s so sad

[FilmGuy93]

Yup. I love America, but fuck Americans; this country is wasted on its inhabitants. First gen immigrants and people who have genuinely struggled embody what America is really about.

[Asker]

The most privileged are the most ungrateful I can understand being upset I don’t always agree with this country but flag burning? Those people should have their citizenship revoked and exiled

[FilmGuy93]

I think that it would bother me more if I had served in the military. It's such a shame that people behave that way.

[Asker]

I come from a military family and it bothers me a lot

[Asker]

So many people have sacrificed so much for us

[jhl_x]

As someone from Brazil, I find amazing how there are Americans that hate their own countruly, overlook their history and elect politicians dedicated to destroying the US from within. What's called the US should've been split in 50 different countries already.

[HighValue]

Only democrats hate America. The dumb lazy ones hate that they can't have a free living forever and the wealthy democrats exploit that to get votes/power.

[Anonymous]

Holy crap; punctuation, please.

I tried reading this, and got a headache. It was all two massive, meandering sentences, and hard to follow.

[Asker]

I got an app for that but I hate using it because it tries to guess what I’m saying and it’s usually not what I mean to say sorry this is all jumbled together

[IesusHominumSalvator]

Your country was founded by Christian values, the Christian civilization is superior so now a bunch of weak undisciplined bastardos simply want to destroy that civilization of order, beauty, strenght, discipline to impose their mediocrity, their weakness they wickedness etc

[Blueeyes81]

Probably because our education system sucks. The run on sentences have become the norm. Just throwing it out there.

[Asker]

Seriously I’m sorry about that got kinda lazy

[DryGermanGuy]

And this damned superfluous "LIKE" every three seconds. I cannot listen to most Americans talk because of that.

[DoctorSex]

It's how the wests elite class functions. To divide and conquer the people. Take as old as time.

Kind regards,

[bean2k21]

I love America -- I think more of the world should be American, especially those snaggle tooths on that rainy little island in Northern Europe.

[Anonymous]

Men can't get women

Woman are now Whoes

Inflation

School sucks

Mass immigration legal and illegal

America spend money not on it's citizens but on gender studies in India WTF or investing in Ukraine.

Rewards bad behavior of women with food stamps section 8.

Bail out for operations like banks airlines

The only benefit America has is it's dollar.
And that's slowly dropping.

Wars for no reason

[BLP11520]

Brainwashed in college, IF you ever go overseas you will love the USA more. Trust me.

[Asker]

Right people always say ‘I’m going to Canada’ do you have any idea how bad inflation is in Canada their unemployment rates are through the fucking roof

[goaded]

I thought inflation was Biden's fault.

[schittywok]

Oh my. Something got overturned. And I must move my balls somewhere where fucking has a fucking consequence. REEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

[Anonymous]

In regards to your update, I have actually seen a British WWII vet say something very similar about England. I am sad to say I agree with them.

The US, at least, has lost so much of it's original purpose that I'm not sure if it is even worth fighting for anymore because we are ruled by tyrants. Given that we have been seeing such a massive drop in recruits within the past several years, despite our economy being in the gutter, is a really good sign that I think a lot of Americans agree.