I haven't heard of this until just recently, but I will bite and give my two cents here. I am going to give them the benefit of a doubt with my response here.
I believe men that fall under this term you defined here are those that want to have a wife that has similar values that he has and was raised on. Traditional women are becoming a thing of the past in America with progressive/liberal ideals and feminism. Kind of like what I presented in my MyTake regarding modern relationships. Women are being taught to act more like men with being more career driven and with their sexuality and it is a turn off to a lot of men. They are becoming more masculine and it is a turn off to a lot of men because masculine is naturally attracted to feminine energy. They would just go gay if they wanted to deal with masculine energy. They don't want to be in a pissing contest at work and at home with their equally masculine woman who will more than likely be more stubborn, bitchy and difficult to convince or have her trust his lead and bring her into her feminine energy. It isn't a matter of having complete control over them and using that as "submission" it is a matter of respect and trust where they can give and take. Not one sided for either the man or woman. Balance is the end goal.
Plus with social media and the dating game being heavily favored in women's favor, the amount of them wanting a man who can bring their feminine energy to the forefront with their standards is extreme in some cases, but it also has opened a sea of options that it leaves them prone to overlooking potentially great dudes. They don't do themselves any favors with making TikTok videos or IG thirst traps because it only portrays negative reinforcements to what men already see- that they are useless and not wanted because women are independent, career driven, want men who they can travel the world with, don't want kids or any man that will bore them. On the flipside men aren't getting anywhere either because a lot don't act like men either by taking initiative and carrying themselves like men to begin with. Men need to be the ones who approach because most women prefer it, but they also risk the most rejection from women they have their eye on and it can quickly become demotivating to be shot down by every woman you like or have your eye on. The reality is you will only be compatible with about 1% of the women you meet in your life as a man. A lot of American women seem to lack the ability or desire to empathize and sympathize with men and what they deal with and opt to downplay or dismiss them which is why foreign women seem more appealing.
Now we can say it is them exploiting the opportunity to get citizenship in the U. S., but there are men that have married women in other countries that have a healthy and traditional relationship that they sought. They got the appreciation and validation that they were taught or believed they needed in a relationship. That's what most men want at the end of the day.
They want their woman to love them, appreciate their hard work to provide for the family and children, be nurturing, have the ability to give mind-blowing sex and not be a stone cold bitch every day. That is what a lot of them want. Simplistic from the outside looking in, but it really isn't at the end of the day.
Personally while I won't fault men who opt to go overseas to find a wife, I find it a waste of money to try that journey and more exhausting.
I think you hit the nail on the head with us just wanting a woman with similar values. Very hard to find in some places, not impossible, but impossible if you're on the lower end of the 1 to 10 scale in looks or financially. Hit the gym and keep your money up and you can still get by here in the West... but you'll be a king in other places with that much effort. Shit... with half that effort, you'll be a king in some other places.
I don't think there is much of a message to what they're doing, they want a certain type of woman to make their wife, and they're going for it overseas.
If there is a message to this behavior I'd say it's similar to what certain women are doing by dating outside their race: BE MORE OF WHAT I WANT, AND I'LL BE INTERESTED IN YOU.
For example, there are a ton of beta-male white boys, who are as feminine and weak as a somewhat-masculine woman, so it's no wonder that some white women are drawn to guys from other races such as black guys who seem to exude masculinity more. By that same token there are many black women who want better treatment, and a reliable guy; so, they're going outside their race in higher numbers.
In all these cases the "message" seems to be, "you are not what I want based on characteristics you have power over, so I'm going to go find that elsewhere, and NOT settle for you."
I don't know much about them. Do they bash modern women? If so i don't support bashing people.
But it sounds like a better message, than other conservative men. This is kinda how it should be. Instead of complaining about modern women, find yourself a traditional woman.
They know what they want. So they go searching for it, instead of trying to force women to be what they want, and complain how much women suck.
I don't watch trash tv because I couldn't care less.. And who cares what message they are sending.. let the guys do what they want to do, they most likely are not men you would want to marry anyhow...
I dont believe they are trying to send sny message to women. They are looking for a partner. I mean I can see why so many guys here are bitter incels or mgtows.
Why wouldn't a guy that's striking out on the dating or marriage scene here in the US go abroad where he can date a a girl who's a 7 when he could get a date from a 4 in the US.
I was in Thailand, Russia, ukraine, Spain, Romania etc and my tinder was on fire with super hot cute girls, in the US to get a 5 you really have to work. All that work and effort for a woman you can't trust, likely cheat on you, hit you up for alimony and child support.
It's basically their response to the countless times women say that they don't need men, that men are dogs, that men ain't shit, blah blah blah. And then all the constant hatred (yes hatred and don't deny it) in everyday life, movies, and shows towards men is the icing on the cake. So they're like, "You know what, you wanna be hateful towards men, fine. I'm just gonna ditch you and go out of the country to find a woman who respects and appreciates me, because I ain't finding it here."
There is a multitude of factors as to why they don't stay over there. Maybe to see family, maybe because the relationship broke off, maybe because he still has business to take care of over here, there could be many reasons.
More like they can’t make money there like they can in America. Once they settle into the economy, they’re no longer the “rich American” and no women care about him.
Maybe that's another reason. We don't know for everyone one of them that come back. But you do realize that not all women are gold diggers... right? I hope that's not what you're implying.
They aren't trying to send any message. They are simply looking for a wife and think it will be easier to find one they like elsewhere. This has been going on for a very long time, long before the Internet.
It might inadvertently send a message, but that is not the intent.
I don't know much about their community, but the vibe I've gotten is consistent with how men of other countries regard American women; they don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.
I have rarely met foreign men who have actually dated American women, who ever have anything but the worst stuff to say. Y'all do not have a good reputation in the world.
American men, interestingly, have the exact opposite reputation.
I don't know that they are trying to "send a. message" to Western women, they are simply trying to find a quality woman.
Incidentally, the Swedish men have been importing Thai women like crazy (as they are tired of the ultra feminist swedish women), to the point that the Feminist ruling party is trying to make it ILLEGAL. The Swedish women are so threatened by foreign women they want to make it a criminal offense.
I wouldn't want to live overseas in a different culture. I know there are plenty of women here in the USA to who want a more "traditional" setting, you just have to do a bit more looking to find them. I think those men going overseas figure it will be easier to find a submissive someone ready and willing to leave a lesser surrounding if a perceived better life is offered.
That you do not have to remain in your home country to find a wife/life partner, but this is nothing new it has been going on for decades, But has only come to notice recently because social media brought it to prevalence over the last couple of years.
Western women who complain and criticizes about Passport Bros on social media have already gotten the message that certain men will travel overseas to find and be with a women who actually loves and appreciates him rather than be with a female who shows the opposite.
I had never heard of the passport bros and googling it didn't help either. Just that "The passport bros have divided the internet". They aren't doing a good job of it if I, someone who spends a lot of time online, haven't heard about it.
i also as a western man find it incredibly difficult to get into relationship with western woman. the only women that respond back to me is in east our south African continent and asia and im from Europe
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That a majority of American women aren’t worth having a relationship w. Hopefully if they meet someone overseas they don’t bring her back to the states cause she will get a taste of what American women are like only to end up the same.
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You mean "skin traffickers".
So called "passport bros" are men who go abroad for foreign pussy.
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No message, just looking for an appropriate partner in foreign lands
It's only getting attention because attractive 20/30 something guys are doing it rather than just the greying middle-aged divorcees or unmarried men of yesteryear
