Relative as in it varies with culture, the individual etc. Like nothing is universally good or bad. If so, how do you justify telling anyone something is good or bad, right or wrong?
The question of whether morality is a subjective or objective construct is a topic of ongoing debate among philosophers and scholars. Some argue that morality is subjective, meaning that it is based on personal opinions and individual perspectives. Others argue that morality is objective, meaning that it is grounded in universal principles that exist independently of personal beliefs or cultural norms.
Those who argue that morality is subjective might point out that different cultures and individuals have different moral codes, and what is considered morally right or wrong can vary widely depending on the context. Additionally, moral judgments are often influenced by factors such as emotions, personal experiences, and social norms.
However, those who argue that morality is objective might counter that while there may be variation in moral codes across different cultures and individuals, there are also underlying principles that are common to all moral systems. For example, many moral systems place value on things like honesty, fairness, and respect for others, even if the specific ways those values are expressed differ across cultures.
Ultimately, the question of whether morality is subjective or objective may depend on one's philosophical and ethical beliefs. Some people may believe that morality is entirely subjective, while others may argue that there are objective moral truths that can be discovered through reason and critical inquiry.
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Often morality is simply about not taking an action that harms or hurts others. To do so, to do anything that harms others could be considered immoral.
Many of gods laws are based on this, many of mans laws are too. There are also things that appear as if they are not hurting anyone but they hurt one's own self. Most people are generally okay with that, except when that person turns around later and lashed out from all the self pain.
There are people who think if something is legal that it is okay to do, no matter who gets hurt in the process. They have no regards for those because they say, not their problem, they broke no law, they did nothing wrong.
It is true though that when someone is hurt, it hurts far more than just that person. It is a wave effect to hurt their friends and family too, to a lesser degree but still painful.
I think it is relative because some morality is for things that no one really gets hurt but at the same time, there are things with no morality and people do still get hurt and it considered okay because it is legal.
Things like nudity, many will say it is bad and it is immoral, but why? They often cannot explain why it is bad or wrong. They link nudity with sex or porn... even though they all different.
If they say sex is bad, why? because they are not married, okay that's a legit argument but it is a persons self choice to decide to have sex or get married, no one else's business.
I am a bit of it is gods laws to get morality but mankind has corrupted a lot of that and as such, it is now relative.
Those that harm or hurt others are evil and should be treated as such, as it is not immoral to harm, hurt or remove the source of pain to prevent it from spreading to others.
Subjective.
For example, I believe it is a moral imperative to slowly kill every sex offender. I find it immoral to oppose such a cleansing.
But others largely don't agree and find it immoral to cleanse the world of such filth. But others on here I have found, agree with me.
Everyone has an internal compass of morality, and it works as long as that person isn’t a psychopath or desensitized.
Like, you don’t need a law to tell you that you shouldn’t murder your next door neighbor to steal his watch.
Even vikings who raped and pillaged had a sense of honor.
Like, you don’t murder your dying father to ascend to the throne.
Or sell your children into slavery for money.
Everyone has a sense of what is honorable and what is not. What is shameful and what is not.
Sure, there have been rules and laws and practices made up by people. There are some things in society that have been orchestrated to manufacture guilt and shame.
But, underneath all of that, there is still this foundational sense and perception of what is honorable and what is not. What is wrong and what is not. It’s intuitive and we should all sense it.
And to bring it up to the forefront, all one needs to think about is: do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
That’s not a perfect statement, but it puts you in the ballpark of where your mind should go, a place of empathy.
Empathy will guide you to what is right and wrong.
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i think that the terms subjective, objective and relative are a bit "useless" here. because even if you apply subjective morality, you're the object of your subjective morality at the same time, so that subjective morality is also sort of objective right? and it always necessarily has to be relative, cause without the relation between 2 things or individuals, morals don't have something to be applied to. like you can not add one number together :D you need 2 numbers to apply multiplication, addition subtraction and so on. so you need at least 2 individuals to apply morals.
so if you were a brain in a vat floating through space, never interacting with anyone or anyhting, morals wouldn't matter.
conseqently (if i didn't make a big mistake up untill here) that would mean you can not go fully objective and you can not go fully subjective. but i think you can see it as a spectrum which you can gravitate to either end.
i do personally gravitate more towards objecitvity, cause then i can externalize the accountablity for my moral system. like i derive my morality from observing the world. all beings seem to avoid pain, suffering and death. because of that, i label the avoidance of pain suffering and death as "desirable" and i lable the act of doing desirable things to be "good". "bad" emerges as the opposite of good so in my moral saystem that would be any action that causes pain, suffering and death. so it's still subjective, cause it's "the collective sbjective indivuals strive" that i observe and derive my morality from. but it's objective in the sense that i derive it from external observations outside of my own subjective self.
morality at its basis is subjective
if it can't be measured numerically or tangibly than it's subjective. it's not the same as physics because the speed of light is mathematically faster than the speed of sound
however let's say 2 hungry men are lost in the wild and haven't eaten for days. 1 kills the other and cannibalizes him. is this right or wrong?
just because laws exist doesn't mean morality is objective
Morality is objective and you would recognize it as so if I stole your car or broke into your home etc... We know innately right and wrong and it has been intelligently designed along with free will to choose between Right and Wrong. And whomever designedd it will also be the Judge...
Ok first, what do physical laws or laws of the universe (which we barely know) have to do with morality? Unless conscious life forms are involved, there is no question of morality.
I believe morality is always subject to (you probably think of this as "relative to") your level of understanding and wisdom.
If there is no God, subjective. If there is a God, objectively dictated by the nature of God.
So, unless God exists and intervenes, from a practical point of view were are saddled with our own subjective morality. Mine is based upon the Non-Aggression Principle, or NAP. That does not mean I won't F someone up who violates me or another, but only that I will not intentionally harm another's person or property unjustly.Always relative. I’ve been studying wars and “morality” can change everyday.
Objective morality just can’t exist because we can’t know what the future holds. A common logic bomb is “Never cut off someone’s head.” Which is Objective morality. Unless that becomes a medical procedure someday. No one thought stopping the heart and making patients technically dead for 3 mins would be common surgery.You're confused.
Morality is universal. Killing in cold blood is wrong in every society and culture, for example.
You need to better educate yourself on the difference between societal laws, cultures and religious morality.
It's all 3.
Objectively we can all agree that it's wrong to kick a baby in the face.
The other two is just base on culture and traditions passed down and people's personal feelings and opinions.
It wouldn't be called morality if it were not set in stone by the teachings of God.
Well murder is okay, right? If it's by the state or if the victim belongs to another country. If you can justify that kind of morality you can justify anything.
Muslims have very different morals to westerners and it's relative to cultures derived from different religions.
There are certain things that I consider wrong. Harming children in any way.
Abusing animals also. Humans rationalize to make what they want seem right.Like nothing is universally good or bad? Most people view murder and rape as universally bad.
There's no such thing as morality if it's subjective.
Subjective. Just look at cultures that practiced cannibalism and/or human sacrifice.
I believe morality can be guided by God and the Bible.
Morality is pretty well defined by religion.
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