i voted "not bad" but it does come with a caveat.
the vast majority of americans who receive benefits from the government do so on a temporary basis. i think the stat was like about 90-120 the "average" recipient receives benefits. this demonstrates that people aren't looking to abuse the system but rather use it as it was intended, which is a safety net to help people falling into absolute poverty during tough times in life.
i generally support social welfare with significant oversight and regulation. but when we see how much governments spend on military and abstract research i don't see how we can be especially upset when we give money to human beings
Okay, I'm from England, but this is one of my bugbears.
Obviously, I can understand the necessity of social support, a safety net, what have you. WE can all be down on hard times etc.
What I don't like though, is when it enables people's lifestyle. I see migrants benefits claims as part of my work. Often they get £1500-2000 per month (which is like a lower professional's salary where I live after tax), for the wife to stay at home, including £250 per kid (for say, 3 of 5 kids) and for the husband to work part time earning, say, 800 a month. The wife will have no intentions of getting a job as for as I can tell because as part of certain Asian communities, the wife would not work - and why would she given that money is more than what she'd get working minimum wage. That fucks me off. There's no way I should fund people to bring kids in the world, when I'm working my arse off for little in the way of benefit or reward, and can't really afford to have kids myself. Not just having a go at migrants by the way cause I'm sure the native population milk the system, too.
Not bad. Only things that's bad is the people who lie and cheat the system to get benefits. And like honestly I'm only saying that cause I'm a little jealous of their skills like htf they lying because I'm just too truthful on those applications and can't get accepted😂
People who are bothered by others receiving benefits should seriously try being poor for a day and see how it feels to have to reach out for help like that cause speaking from experience it definitely ain't fun being in that situation.
This is the fakest debate in American politics. Democrats want to give money out to buy votes. Republicans want to cut taxes to buy votes. Both parties want people to have more money and credit for them having it. Literally all they fight about it what to call it.
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as candace owens explained , and far more elegantly than i echo, the handouts are indirectly harmful by motivating people to not bother working. but she explained it much better without the "white guy guilt" you can't blame her of bias to defend her own ethnicity. i add the concept is also insult to minority that they "need" it assuming they are weaker, than white so need the handout or need spots in colleges, they say if not save spots, will be "all white" assuming that the minority is too weak to succeed such assumptions are racist too.
It's bad because the vast majority do not need it. They are leaches. It's a form of slavery - meaning the tax payers are the slaves. This is not "government" money. It means people are forced to work for free, with the money going to someone else who are perfectly capable of working for themselves.
Welfare does not help people, it just creates more poor people. It's the biggest cause of the problem, not a solution.
I don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand. If you go to parks, they tell you not to feed the wild animals, because it creates dependency and the animals can no longer fend for themselves. Everyone understands that. But when you apply the same exact principle to people, suddenly people can't figure it out.
Welfare is just a way to buy votes. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, right?
Not American, but y'all have more problems with PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS getting more social security - through direct bailouts and indirect subsidizing via taxpayers paying for food stamps for employees of those companies (effectively shouldering some of the financial burden Walmart should carry in wages) - than Black people.
Start with taxing corporations, the rich, and eliminating socialized losses for your capitalists.
Also, Americans did this to themselves because of systemic racism like gerrymandering election boundaries, and redlining. You have to fix those issues before you can actually have a functional social support system.
Its an horrendous socialistic ideal , governments DO NOT have revenue , they simply collect tax , its not theirs , absolutely NO ONE should consider it some form of " right " the USA represents the free world , the top of the tree in the " free world " , with this comes opportunities that some countries could only imagine , its vital to never take " hand outs " unless its an absolute complete backstop.
Must never be considered as somehow just OKEY , its NOT !
There's an hypocritical nature to calling it bad. Because if handouts are so useful and great then they would opt to abuse it too rather than work but the fact they don't is because they know work will fund them more than handouts could give therefore matters not.
"Hey people get money from this tactic it's so unfair though I could also do that right now but I am choosing not to." yeah the reason you choose not to is because you know no matter what you say that you aren't doing it because it would provide much less money therefore the system works, as that will make people who want more money work and that's life.
Because people are fucking stupid and cynical. They think just because they bust their ass and lie, cheat and steal, everyone else must too.
When in fact there are poor bastards out there who are in situations they cannot help, but are still trying their utmost everyday. They need help, not empty abuse from dipshits who can only talk and judge.
Any time you come across some fuckwit claiming all people on welfare are "on the take". You look that dipshit in the eye and demand to know how many they have successfully reported for this imaginary "fraud". Then how many they have helped go onto better things from welfare living. They will stutter, give a little soliloquy or sophistry and fuck off.
Nobody, not even a crazed schizophrenic, "enjoys" living in welfare poverty. But it's how middle class nobodies try and enforce their class ideals.
Long term yes, if you need government help for a year thatās not bad the idea is you get a pick me up for the government and use that pick me up and get a job that will get you to a point where you donāt need government help and the government should cut you off after a year or 2. Thereās only one business I can actually think of where you will not get ahead at all where are they will purposefully fire you when it comes to your time with emotion and that is Walmart thatās why I donāt shop at Walmart.
It depends. I see nothing wrong with needing assistance at some point, but I think everyone's goal should be to contribute more to society than they take. That doesn't have to be money, but people should find a way to make other peoples lives better, and not just rely on people doing things for them
People don't have a problem with those in genuine need getting assistance, it's generally abuse of the system that bothers them. I suspect that if recipients were working part time or at least doing some volunteer work when receiving benefits, you wouldn't hear many complaints.
My feeling is that our anger should really be directed at corporate welfare and other big abuses.
I have no problem helping those who are in need, but I do have issues with the administration of government programs in general. These programs seem to be abused far more by politicians as a way of rewarding their friends than they are by recipients. And then there is the massive fraud, like what happened with COVID relief. With the ridiculous amount of taxes I pay each year I expect better than things like this:
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/27/1184555444/200-billion-pandemic-business-loans-fraudulent
Government assistance should only be for those in serious need of help i. e. poor kids, poor elderly, people in need, and those seriously handicap or sick.
If young and healthy and the person just wants to mooch off the system then it's bad and those people shouldn't be helped.
Yes. Handouts are unfair to people who put in more effort. Just like giving every athlete an Olympic medal would be unfair to those who put in more work. Government should have never gotten involved in handing people things. This should have remained the job of charities, churches and such organizations.
Our fortune is mostly just luck. I am well compensated, but it's not because I've worked terribly hard to earn it. I just have an ability to do something in high demand and short supply. I had some rough times when I was young but was lucky to have no attraction to addictive substances so I didn't self-medicate, but it could easily have gone the other way.
If Taking handouts is bad then you presuppose a uniform cultural code consistently enforced to make up for the government's inability to discriminate in giving out handouts.
This might be mostly the case in small culturally homogeneous countries but it is not the case in most heterogeneous countries. Therefore giving handouts at other people's ex pence is bad, but taking the handout to reclaim your own share is not.
I don't know how someone could have any understanding of economics and not know the answer here. It affects me because I pay 30 thousand a year in taxes, so I work 9-5 5 days a week and there are things Iād rather be doing, and these people just sit back and get my money
they should fking work
Depends. A lot of working people get some for of welfare but here's the kicker the government is essentially giving them back some of the tax they paid and then inflation. Its like if someone gives you a birthday present but you pay for it with your own cash.
Depends on the reason and how long. If you're just to lazy to get a job then its wrong. If its temporary just till you get back on feet with a job, then its fine.
Should have nothing to do with color of skin.
It's lame. If someone is physically and mentally capable, get your ass to work! I've been working/hustling since I got kicked out by my mom and her abusive boyfriend at 16. I worked through all the covid bullshit as well, wasn't any paid time off that I heard others laxed on. Wouldn't want it and even looked into returning the stimulus payments to no avail.
Iām all for having social safety nets to help those who are experiencing temporary hardship and need a helping hand, but Iām opposed to people using it as a career track.
If it were bad Wall Street wouldnāt t also do it.
Oh and the Auto Industry.
Oh and the Bankers.
Kinda funny how when they take government money itās a ābailoutā...
... but when normal, every day people do it they are lazy moochers.
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