Earlier this year I saw that a trans woman from the Netherlands won a beauty competition
I also remember seeing earlier this year Italy decided to ban and not allow trans women from entering an Italian beauty pageant.
Do you think they should be allowed to compete or not?
Do you think Netherlands or Italy made the correct choice?
If it were up to me, all beauty pageants would be abolished. In my opinion it is dishonorable and disrespectful to show women as if they are at a cattle auction.
But as long as women apply for it.. 🤔 we can't.
But back to the question.. if this is a man... rebuild to a woman.. with all necessary therapy, operations and hormones... then maybe yes ( just maybe )
If it is a bearded, muscled body builder with smooth skin on high heels and a dress because he " feels " woman then No!
But my opinion counts for every thing... like women shower, women swimming pool...
" oh i'm babbling a again..." but i guess i'm old fashion when it comes to this " multi, whe can all be what we what ( even E. T. or cat ) gender thing.
Absolutely not. Sports too.
Yeah.
Transwomen are women and if they're more beautiful than a cis competitor, they're still more beautiful.
If a cis competitor feels transphobia because they lost to a transwoman, that's on the cis competitor, not on the organizers or the victor. She needs to go and process her loss, then try again the next year.
No. They are biologically a male. So they should not be allowed to compete they should instead have their own beauty pagent for trans only
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It’s their rules. They can decide to accept whoever they want. Though, right now, the novelty of being trans in a pageant seems to create an unfair advantage.
u Why? They aren't women!
If they would define genetically who was eligible to compete would put an end to all of this silliness.
You either have x or y chromosomes.
Doesn't matter which gender you think you are, identify with or had your body altered to look like, but in this kinder gentler world that might hurt someone's feelings so this is the mess you end up with.
Women fought for the chance to compete against men, but did not take into account that it could/would also allow men to compete against women.
Once again, be careful what you wish for.
So now what do they do about this mess?
No, he did many surgeries to become a woman, now she is just very fake, boobs, ass, face, waist all of it is made by surgeons, why we should compare this type of body to a natural beautiful woman and then they will win the competition cuz if they not they will say everyone is homophobic. The other girls competing there work hard on their bodies and they going to be beat by some male Kardashians. I don’t think this is fair to other women
Should biological women be kicked out of beauty pageants, sports, olympics, scholarships, safe bathrooms and locker rooms? Hell no!
If people want to celebrate a mental illness (that's killing my generation) then they need to build their own division, bathrooms, and locker rooms.
Sure. I mean, what reason would you have to deny her: https://www.google.com/search?q=miss+london+trans+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwic95LA0tWBAxVqjokEHSu_CaAQ2-cCegQIABAD&oq=miss+london+trans+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzoECCMQJzoFCAAQgARQugtYnyBggiZoAHAAeACAAZcBiAGcBpIBAzIuNZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=ptAZZZyML-qcptQPq_6mgAo&bih=592&biw=360&client=ms-android-americamovil-us-revc she's a big reason that I changed my views on trans girls--I couldn't deny my attraction.
No. Here's the thing, women that have altered their body are typically disqualified for doing so in these pageants. Meanwhile a trans woman is exactly that, altered. So it doesn't make sense that we'd allow biological men to compete in women's pageants.
I honestly dont care. Lets say, hypothetically speaking, that a guy snuck into a beauty pageant for women and rocked that dress better than literally anyone else. Would I have a problem with that? No. You are supposed to be judging beauty by some definition, not care about the gender or whatever. If a trans woman or even a man can win a woman beauty pageant then I think they fucking deserve it.
Any any LEGIT beauty contest (that is any contest where the hottest chick actually wins) this wouldn't even come close to being an issue. It'd be the same sort of issue as "should trans men be allowed to compete in professional men's sports?" Who cares? They'll never get anywhere near being able to play much less win anything.
BUT given that beauty pageants for women are doing their utmost to replace "hot" with "fat" or "ugly" women, I don't see why they wouldn't also want to have a few "women" slinging cock in there too.
No just give them their own thing.. just like sports you shouldn't be able to compete against normal people.. but I don't get beauty pageants anyways because I think if you had surgerys to enhance your body feels like cheating lol I don't get them..
No! "Trans"women are not women. They have been artificially constructed. So it's wrong to allow them to compete in women's competitions. It's an insult to actual women. It destroys the idea of womanhood.
What's next, allowing robots to compete against women?
I don't see why not; it's not like sports, where even if testosterone is equalized, a man's larger lungs and heart give an athletic advantage. It's clothing style, makeup application, and genetics.
Given the realities of physique that biology imposes, it'd be quite a coup if an MTF person actually WAS good-looking enough to win a beauty pageant.
It says more about the judges if a trans person wins a beauty pageant, to be honest.
But, those judges are just people from the area. And if that area wants to to include trans women in their beauty pageants, that's weird but so are a lot of other things. A pot for every kettle, I guess.
It's funny how the concept of sex change is predominantly only a western idea. Trust the degenerate westerners with no goals in life & nothing to their names.
Go to other countries - in Asia as example - and if you used the word trans gender you'll be told something different.
this might not be politically correct but i really dont think they should be allowed to. i think only bio girls should be able to. that being said got no problem with trans people, it just feels wrong to let them compete like that. especially that they've had a lot of work done to look pretty which i dont think is fair to the other girls
Trans women should not be allowed to compete in those pageants not that I care about them a whole lot in general. It is unfair to women and I didn’t think you could compete if you had a bunch of surgeries altering your appearance regardless. It would be cool if they did other versions of the pageants for trans women or just for men and trans men in general.
No they should not. They can start their own pagent. They do this to destroy things that have been tradition for years just because some idiots let them
Same for sports. Totally wrong.
When the organizers allow this, everybody else should just walk off. That would put an end to it. There is no patent with only 1 or 2 contestants. Same for sports events. The woke idiots in charge need to be sent a message.
No, I don't think sympathy towards people with mental health issues should come at a cost of depriving others of their rights and opportunities.
You don't take away the stairs because disabled people can't walk on them and they may feel bad about it.
It's either trans women or trans men. In Italy, a bunch of trans men actually signed up in protest of the new rule, to show how backwards it was to allow them to compete but ban trans women from competing, when it's supposed to be a women's beauty pageant.
I think... Pageants are stupid anyway so I guess my view don't really matter here, but yeah I would allow them. Just means the women need to do a better job at... whatever dumb metrics a Pageant goes by lol.
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