Do you think trans women should be allowed in Women's bathroom?

[Anonymous]

I don't think men would care much , but I'm not sure how many women/girls would be comfortable with a stranger man in their washroom~~

[NamerOfStars]

The problem with being attacked by another person is being attacked, not the other person. I think back to the women who were our ancestors, who braved hardship and suffering for themselves and their families, and wonder what they'd think of their daughters, who freak the fuck out at the prospect of being in a small enclosed space with a man, simply because he's a man.

If these people are so deluded that they think women are harmed by the mere proximity of testicles, then the only solutions are exposure therapy or being locked in protective custody for the rest of their days.

I shudder to think of what's going to happen to these women if they ever get pregnant.

[Flatmanlewis]

Your argument is flawed on so many levels. If you think equating the presence of testicles is the problem then you are either just trolling or an outright antagonist. To try and hoist your faulty argument on the history of women’s suffrage and early feminism to try and assign some validity to it as a pro-female position is beyond preposterous. Since you want to go that way, keep in mind these are the women who crusaded against men deciding what women were allowed to do and where they could do it. To think those women would champion biological men forcing their way into women’s spaces is just asinine.

[NamerOfStars]

@Flatmanlewis You're saying that these people, being men, are a danger, in ways that a woman wouldn't be. You have given absolutely no reason. You're saying that I'm somehow equating women's suffrage and Feminism to fear of males. You have given absolutely no reason. You're saying that anti-male hysteria is "crusad[ing] against men deciding what women were allowed to do and where they could do it". You have given absolutely no reason.

And you accuse ME of trolling? Ditch the bigotry; you're doing yourself no favors.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@NamerOfStars
It's not about the trans woman, it's about the sex offender that just immediately claims to be trans so they can do what they want

[NamerOfStars]

@BoopBoopBeep And in fear of whom you've condemned umpteen innocent people. This is a problem when you do it with, say, black people; why would it not be a problem when you do it with men? Or with transsexuals?

[BoopBoopBeep]

@NamerOfStars
And that makes a valid argument that can be discussed with the other side. I just think it's disingenuous to say people are afraid of transwomen/transmen... whatever they're called... MTF... when they're ACTUAL complaint is that predatory criminal degenerates can just spontaneously "identify as trans" to go in the restroom.

The black guy can't selectively choose when to identify as what.

[Rosexøxø]

Anddddd you failed to read the part where the FATHER

WHO OWNS TESTICLES

PUNCHED HIS

TEETH

OUTTTTTtttttttttttttttttt…

And the beat goes on 🤦‍♀️

Get some healing please. It shows.

[Rosexøxø]

@Flatmanlewis well said well said. I have to agree with truth.

[NamerOfStars]

@BoopBoopBeep But that's just it- that's NOT their complaint. That poor guy/gal may have been completely innocent and just needed to use the bathroom, and got attacked for it, because apparently attacking people is fine when you feel you're justified in doing so. Being trans does not make you a "predatory criminal degenerate".

[NamerOfStars]

@Rosexøxø I HAVE healing, and am consequently not stupid enough to think violence justified. You don't, and that's the problem.

If it had been a biological woman going into the bathroom at the same time, and her father had attacked her, he'd've been arrested, and rightly so. Instead he's praised, and the few of us who retain some level of sanity point out the hypocrisy.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@NamerOfStars That's my point. Nobody said trans makes you degenerate... well... okay... a lot of people have, but that's beside the point here. As I said in my earlier post, it isn't what they are complaining about.

If you could wave a magic wand and make 0 trans people degenerate, and everybody else feel they are not degenerate, it would change nothing, because they don't like serial molesters walking in and being able to say "no it's okay I'm trans"... so it wouldn't matter if it's the most upstanding trans person in the world, there's still a lot of people who have issues with it because of the can of worms that opens up for the criminal deviants. Who greatly outnumber trans people.

[NamerOfStars]

@BoopBoopBeep Again, if it had been a biological woman who'd been punched, the father would be in prison. The problem wasn't "my daughter is in the presence of someone who has the potential to be a criminal"; it's not like a woman couldn't attack her. The problem was "my daughter is in the presence of someone with a Y chromosome".

You seem to be conflating "complaining" with "assault and battery".

[sawno]

Can we just settle that debate one and for all with the obvious solution?
Dick? Men's bathroom.
Vagina? Women's bathroom.
I don't care about the way you present or want to be called, whatever body part you have applies. The moment you transitioned that body part is the moment you belong in the other room.

Its all about being able to feel safe in these spaces, to where no intercourse can happen. Thats what it was designed for, and all these gender identities are entirely irrelevant for that.

[MemeSupreme]

bro im gonna be real... who gives a fuck? im in there to be in and out like idc

aaand most trans people are gonna be more nervous than us bc they're used to people targeting them

[A_Bell]

There is no such thing as trans women. Stop forcing us women to be victims of social experiments.

[OlderAndWiser]

If I identify as a Secret Service agent, can I get into the White House?

[Rosexøxø]

lol well said

[Rosexøxø]

And Here’s a question (my opinion was removed. The asker is sus).

Why would guys want to use the bathroom labeled women?

For happiness sake?

The men’s accommodates them better? Urinals AND toilets

And they get to peek at other men’s balls? Don’t they LIKE MEN?

perfect excuse to be around them.

Why then use toilet only facilities when women take longer HAVE to sit could have many having periods and having children.

THEYRE TOO FULL

NOT ENOUGH SPACE.

Save our bladders the sob story on the pathetic “walk of shame” to the men’s bathroom with the gender you’re attracted to in full display, AND not to mention a quicker line and greater chance of availability to relieve oneself of bowel movements and urges/duties!!

[Rosexøxø]

Asked if you removed my comment I could just keep copying and pasting or make my own post. Do let me know if I have you blocked already and @OlderAndWiser if you reported my opinion for adding you let me know so we can’t sort it out too. Thanks.

Best to you!

[OlderAndWiser]

@Rosexøxø No, whatever happened to your post, it wasn't me. I have been out of town and not online today between 8 am and 7 pm.

[JoePro_]

I think it's a complicated topic. But at the end of the day, my thought is this.

People with gender dysphoria most typically have emotional and/or sexual abuse traumas in their past. Those traumas are usually what sits at the back of their minds in them in their everyday life, gives them feelings like they're out of place in their body, maybe even in the world, don't feel quite right in their skin, and often with a need for validation or attention. Which by itself isn't "bad" even if it's unhealthy. Their primary drive is the need for love, validation, recognition, etc., which wasn't properly given to them as children or young teens.

However, there are also people out there with those same (or similar) traumas who may or may not be dysphoric but are willing to do the whatever it takes to do to others that was done to them. There are also people who, despite having an average/normal upbringing with plenty of love and attention, may have a genetic predisposition toward some type of psychological issue that makes them dangerous. These people are predators who are willing to pretend that they're something they're not to get what they want. Their drive is power, sexual gratification, deviancy, etc.

All of these people need help. But one group is dangerous, and we need to figure out how to handle these dangerous people properly. And I think it's tough to target one without accidentally targeting the other.

That said, if this dad suspected or had a gut feeling this person was a pervert, and not just your average everyday trans or gender dysphoric, I'm personally someone who tries to trust my suspicions and gut feelings, and I'd say, "Sounds like a dad doing the right thing to protect his daughter."

On the topic of bathrooms, I think we're in a social situation right now that might warrant an "Other" bathroom, or safe and secure bathrooms for people who don't feel quite right in their own skin. These should be single bathrooms, equal and clean in every way to your standard bathrooms, catering to non-gender conforming people including children who might also be dysphoric, and would mostly help keep possibly dangers adults away from children in general.

Now, that doesn't solve the problem of your average heteronormative looking male predators from targeting your male child in the boy's room, or a female predator targeting your daughter. So, I think if you want to protect them in these cases and you're able (same gender), then go with them into the restroom. And if you can't (opposite gender), use a single restroom.

I also think we should be making some legal changes to building requirements based on the current social climate, so as to not inhibit people from accessing restrooms, and to find better ways to protect children who need to use restrooms. So "Other" restrooms that are single toilet, or just marked "Single Toilet" restrooms, that sort of thing.

I don't think this will fix everything, but I would hope that it gives people of all ages options on how they want to go about safely using a facility that (I think) they should feel safe in.

Just my two cents.

[JacobJordan]

Abso-fuckin-lutely not. I have 2 little girls and a little boy and I will put the little pervert in the ground or the back of an ambulance if he tries to enter the women's restroom especially with my daughters or wife inside

[Asker]

Hell yeah

[KrakenAttackin]

@JacobJordan. Just give me a call, I will bring the shovels.

[TommyMountainFigure]

Isn't that Chris O'dowd?

No. Trans shouldn't be allowed in women's bathrooms. They can identify as whatever they like but everyone ELSE identifies them as what they were at birth!

I get the world has gone politically nuts, but women should still be protected from men regardless as to who or what they want to identify as!

[FunkyMonkee]

Sure, IF, he's actually already had a sex change or is already planning to have one. NOT JUST because he IDENTIFIES as a woman!! If you want into the bints room, you better DAMN WELL PRESENT as female 24/7 and be intent of getting a sex change!!
I've been on stage in a mini skirt and pantyhose for at least 20 years and I NEVER went into the women's room just because of how I was dressed!

[BlissfullyCurSed]

@FunkyMonkee what are you working as?

[FunkyMonkee]

@BlissfullyCurSed At the moment, nothing. You mean when I wore that attire?

[BlissfullyCurSed]

Yeah... were you a crossdressing prostitute?😏😏😏

[FunkyMonkee]

@BlissfullyCurSed I was a drummer in a rock band and wearing that stuff made it a LOT easier for me to play drums the way I do.

[BlissfullyCurSed]

It would have been more fun if you had been a crossdressing prostitute. This site is a huge trainwreck, so I kept my expectations very high and was ready for the worst. It turned out something vanilla.😔😔😔😔😭😭😭😭

[FunkyMonkee]

@BlissfullyCurSed Oh, well. You can't always get what you want.

[Anonymous]

If they are a post op trans then it’s not a problem but no one can just say they identify as a woman and look like a man and still look have their male parts , that’s just crazy. That’s like saying I identify as a car and jog on the interstate in the fast lane. Same lunacy

[bobalife]

Yes, of course it’s fine, here we have women, all gender, transgender bathrooms.

[IloveWinters]

Generic bathrooms definitely

[HawkPerception]

Can I identify as a non-tax paying citizen? Or how about a the greatest person in the world?

Mental illness should not be encouraged.

[genericname85]

nope. trans people should stop tring to force society to bend to their particular will.

[Sameone]

Yes because i get tired of seeing trans in man's bathroom

[AngryCarl]

It depends if they have a penis. It's too easy to identify as a woman without having your junk cut off.

[DextroShade]

No, they shouldn't. Mad respect to this dad for punching out this disgusting pervert!

[SotiCoto]

As long as society insists on calling me "disabled" then I'll use the disabled bathroom and completely ignore the utter identity clusterfuck going on in the other two.

[Flatmanlewis]

Huh - funny you blocked me.

[Asker]

Seeing you for first time sir.. I'm aure I never blocked you

[Asker]

Sure*

[Flatmanlewis]

Apologies. Wrong thread.

[Asker]

Good day

[Cazaputas]

Yes, women should not have exclusive places, since it is gender discrimination

[Asker]

"Women" should, yeah

[BonMot]

Sorry... I think it is WRONG and has been PROVEN to be UNSAFE!

[stark04]

Oh hell no. Absolutely no!

[laly520]

tooth fairy lol

[Rosexøxø]

Some solute second decisions were made

Anddd some split second comedic history too lol

[parlance]

They should be locked in padded cells.

[Anonymous]

That meme is priceless.

The answer to your question is obviously no.