Do you think the 01/06/21 terrorist attacks against the U. S. Capitol will ever be WIDELY viewed the same as the 09/11/01 terrorist attacks in NYC?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

It's already been three years since Donald Trump insurrected his supporters to commit a domestic terrorist attack against the U. S. Capitol. While the death count was significantly lower than the September 11th, 2001 Terrorist Attacks at the World Trade Center, I find it even more disturbing that our own country attacked our own country.

Contrary to some myths, it was not a protest. There may have been protests down there going on that day, but the terrorist attack was not a protest.

[Flatmanlewis]

No. The two things are not equivalent. While Jan/6 was an embarrassment as a nation and horrible event it simply cannot compare with the deaths of thousands on 9/11. These were thousands of people - many of whom had time to understand they would die and say their goodbyes by phone, text, and voicemails - who were not participants in anything except their daily lives.
Jan/6 was criminal but lacked the consequence of launching wars around the globe, the resulting death of tens of thousands, an incalculable amount of national treasure expended, and spanned the political spectrum.


Jan/6 was a horrible event but many factors play into it and among them was a lack of tactical & strategic preparation which I think we will never see again.

[Red_Arrow]

Terrorism is the use of force or violence against persons or property in violation of the criminal laws of the United States for purposes of intimidation, coercion, or ransom. The Jan 6 attacks definitely used violence against both persons and property. It was committed by people who believed the lies that Trump and his accomplices spread saying that he had actually won the election and fraud was used to make it look like Biden had won. All of his lies have been proven false, and many of his accomplices have admitted that they lied, and many have gone to prison for it.

[Anonymous]

I find the current comments hilarious. It is funny how these nut jobs that support that criminal can't even agree on one conspiracy theory.

It's antifa. Then it is no, they let them in the capital. Nope, that doesn't make sense so now it was the FBI.

It just shows how deranged these people truly are. They have 101 different theories as to how it wasn't their own party that did it.

I mean I could sort of get if they had a singular cause they all latched on to, but it seems to change quarterly with these people.

Deep down, I suspect they are so embarrassed that they are grasping at straws at this point just to deflect blame because how could someone under almost 100 charges of crime not be perfect?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

I think your conclusion is exactly right. Deep down inside, they know they're wrong, and they know they're voting for a vile criminal, but they can't come to grip with that reality.

[Opinion Owner]

It is unfortunate that I am most likely correct. Glad to see some (you) have a firm grasp of reality on this site.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

This site is full of incel males in your age group who hate everything to do with equity.

[Opinion Owner]

Agreed. At least there are a few decent people.

[Opinion Owner]

I just broswed the comments and look at that. Someone put a clip, from a movie, that does not adress the allegations.

Nope, it only deflects, as I said, like clockwork. Amazing how even in red states, they don't have a single court win.

Not only have they failed for three years. They keep on trying to convince themselves with new, and more radical, conspiracies.

Them they try they try to convince the rest of us that our country is falling apart, when they are the exact ones to try to subverting the law of our land. Sad indeed.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Most of them are White Supremacists, and want the United States of America to turn into a Christofascist Oligarchy (we already are to some extent).

[Anonymous]

It’s strange why Nancy Pelosi never protected the capital with the National Guard. It’s almost like she wanted this to happen.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

I doubt it, but if she did, then fuck Nancy Pelosi.

[Opinion Owner]

It was the speakers job to protect the capital that day. She dropped the ball and blamed Trump.

[Opinion Owner]

@goaded
I never said she did. I'm sick of you foreigners living vicariously through America. Get a life.

[DryGermanGuy]

By people respecting the constitution and understanding the big picture, absolutely. 9/11 was a horrific terror attack that killed thousands of people in New York. Jan 6th. - if successful - would have killed the very foundation of the whole country.

[shortster]

It was a riot. Not even as bad as the BLM riots were the previous year in DC. But because they went into the Cathedral of the Feds, it is now the worst thing ever. Only come to find out that they with held evidence in trials of the protestors to keep them in jail indefinitely.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

It was a riot, and terrorist attack.

BLM had plenty of non-rioting protesters, but for the riots in the name of BLM, fuck those people too. However, a riot in the name of BLM still doesn't automatically mean it's a terrorist attack.

All you people do is pull "Whataboutism", and deflections into everything.

[shortster]

A riot in the capital isn't a terrorist attack. Especially if the capitol police are giving guided tours to people as it is going on. The Left is desperate to call it terrorism because it is the worst thing that has come out of the Right in the last 30 years; and even still it wasn't as bad as the BLM riots in DC, let alone the rest of the country. In terms of damage to government buildings and lives lost. Nevermind private property damage; which is more in line with actual terrorism.

You want to compare a coordinated assault on country by foreign nationals that was planned out for years. That resulted in the deaths of over 3000 Americans and left a smoldering crater at the Pentagon and a much bigger one in downtown New York. To a protest that turned into a riot leaving broken windows and one dead protester that was shot by police. Whose death is under investigation for excessive force. You need to come back to reality and realize that the Left has vastly overplayed their hand on this one. And if they don't quit harping on it, they will not like the precedent it sets when the someone like Trump returns to power.

[DextroShade]

It was an inside job, the cops opened the door for the protestors and aside from some minor vandalism the only person who was killed was an unarmed woman shot by capital police. That you fucking shit leftards compare this to 9/11 with thousands dead and billions in damage shows that your side being in power is an existential threat to this country.

[AviatorTom]

01/06/21 was planned as a peaceful protest that got out of hand. One person unfortunately died.

09/11/01 was a planned terrorist attack planned to kill thousands, and it did.

There is no comparison between the two.

[exitseven]

The democrats have attacked this country, They subverted an election and have tried to change the very fabric of our society , destroying virtually every institution we have and the ones they have not destroyed they have taken over.

[msc545]

LIES. Shame on you!

[exitseven]

@msc545 www.youtube.com/shorts/gvypKtPhRU0?feature=share

[msc545]

THAT was a movie -in other words, not real. The attack by your fellow cultists was real.

[exitseven]

@msc545 yes and so is the attack on democracy by democrats.

[msc545]

Evidence?

[exitseven]

@msc545 how about trying to jail the leading political opponent just like Putin did.

[msc545]

The leading political opponent committed multiple crimes. Do you think he deserves a free pass for being a politician?

[exitseven]

@msc545 he has not been convicted of any and will have them all overturned on appeal. This is a way to steal another election. They know that Biden will lose if they let Trump run.

[msc545]

What will you say after he IS convicted?

[exitseven]

@msc545 if it is by a democrat DA and democrat judge in a district where they are all liberals and it is an obvious made up charge I would call BS.

[msc545]

Judges and DA's don't determine guilt - juries do.

[exitseven]

@msc545 except when you do not allow somebody to have a trial by a jury of his peers and just appoints a liberal democrat judge with a history of bias against the defendant.

[msc545]

Just who is preventing anyone from having a trial by jury?

[exitseven]

@msc545 The court determined that when Trump is charged in New York for fraud he will be solely judged by a. Biased Democrat who has already said that Trump was guilty.

[msc545]

Just because someone is a Democrat that does not mean they are biased.

[BCRanger10]

No, because they aren't even remotely comparable.

[goaded]

True. 9/11 could never have toppled the US government.

[BCRanger10]

@goaded And a few stupid people ushered in and escorted around by police officers would have either?

[goaded]

Yes. If they had delayed the vote long enough, or if Pence had been taken away "for his own protection" and not returned in time, or they'd got the word from Trump to use the firearms they had stashed away just over the border (“I had not seen that many weapons in one location since I was in the military,” Cummings, who joined the Oath Keepers in Florida in 2020).

If they had managed that, the electoral college vote would have been thrown out in favour of a vote in the House with one vote per state. There are more Republican states than Democratic ones.

Do you really think Republicans would have done the honorable thing in that situation?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

They're both terrorist attacks, so therefore, they're quite comparable.

[goaded]

You could wipe out an entire US city without destroying US democracy, you can't overturn a federal election without doing so.

[msc545]

It wasn't a "few" and they were not "escorted by police officers".

[andreasderjuengere]

It's always better when something little happens - opposed to nothing at all.

Yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnn...

It's election year over there, isn't it?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

It's an election year every year.

[andreasderjuengere]

Admitted: my statement was unprecise :)

[EnglishArtsteacher]

I know what you meant. When people say "It's an election year" over here, they're referring to specifically when we elect our presidents (which happens every four years), but in reality, it's an election year every single year.

[Drewtate]

Hardly the same as hijacking four passenger planes full of passengers to use as missiles against two large buildings and the Pentagon.

[msc545]

YES. Terrorist attacks are Terrorist attacks.

Stop trying to whitewash and make excuses for Jan 6.

[msc545]

*sorry - I initially thought a different person authored this question.

[rigmarole]

You definitely do look mentally retarded in your photo. At least your looks match your ideas.

[abc3643]

Yes. More so, in fact. However, the J6 attack was not terrorism.

[Alex-Snow]

They should be... they were an attack on our democracy, our capital and our constitution. They should all be punished and Trump especially

[goaded]

Worldwide, I think it is.

[goaded]

Meanwhile... "Twenty-five percent of Americans say it is “probably” or “definitely” true that the FBI instigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U. S. Capitol, a false concept promoted by right-wing media and repeatedly denied by federal law enforcement, according to a new Washington Post-University of Maryland poll."
www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[EnglishArtsteacher]

You're on to something.

Most people here in the United States of America is vile pieces of shit.

[goaded]

Not most, or you wouldn't have President Biden.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Well, there are even vile people who voted for Joe Biden, and this doesn't include all of the non-voters, and third-party voters who are complacent to this bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Both were civil attacks but one killed 3,000 and could have killed 20k and the other killed less than an average mass shooting

[EnglishArtsteacher]

And I acknowledged the death counts were much different, but I wouldn't call then "civil" attacks, because they were anything, but civil.

[Opinion Owner]

Both were perpetuated by the presidents much like the civil war

[goaded]

Republican presidents. Not that I agree with you, but they both happened under Republican presidents.

[FunkyMonkee]

Neither were terrorist attacks, except for the antifa assholes that did the attack on Jan. 6th.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Both were terrorist attacks, and I doubt hardly any (if any) people from Antifa were there.

[FunkyMonkee]

You're wrong on both counts! There were a number of people there yelling, "Those are antifa dressed like Trump supporters!"
Sept. 11th was a controlled demolition. All of the hijackers were still alive in the middle east after the "attack" and some had no idea they were supposedly involved. bin laden died July 10th 2001 in an American hospital with kidney failure.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Quit watching Fox News.

[FunkyMonkee]

Why? It's the ONLY place that tells the truth! I don't wanna be a CNN idiot like the rest of you!

[TheGuyWhoKnowsStuff]

Who got scared for their life or died?

[KostasKouvalis]

We had a terrorist attack on the capital?

[KostasKouvalis]

I don't know what grades or subjects you teach, but you must be brainwashing your students really good.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Yes, and you know we did.

[RedInnocent68]

No, because of the scale.

[KrakenAttackin]

Kinda like BLM burning down cities?

[Anonymous]

No. It was a protest that was let in.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Even if it WAS a protest (and it wasn't), if a protest turns into a terrorist attack, then that nullifies any progress of the protest.

[Opinion Owner]

Every protest has the potential to do that just look at the blm and antifa protests. Pelosi had the national guard in front of Congress while us cities were trashed

[Opinion Owner]

Wasn't a terror attack either. Just a mob that was let run amok.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

None of the BLM Protests were terrorist attacks.

[Opinion Owner]

Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of intentional violence and fear to achieve political or ideological aims.

[gorydetails]

You spelled “inside job” wrong, lol.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Correct, inside the White House.

[gorydetails]

9/11, yeah. Jan 6 Inside Pelosi’s office. Lol.