Do woman who have an abortion for the wrong reasons basically get away with murder?

[Anonymous]

Is she a psychopath for choosing to have an abortion because she wanted to have more freedom in her life and wasn’t ready to parent? Because she wasn’t finally stable or independent enough to live on her own? Does she deserve to have threats in her life because of this? She could have kept the baby correct. She should have been forced to chose life for that baby correct?

[IslaTheWitch]

Have you ever seen unwanted children left in hospitals because their mother was forced to give birth? Do you know what fate they share? Have you ever spent a minute in an orphanage or hospital giving relief to such children?

Have you ever seen emotionally abused children? They are left alone with food at home and expected to care for themselves. Because their parents, their mothers, never wanted them. Or have you ever seen lonely kids of working parents? They have no time to talk to their kids, to ask if they met someone new or if someone is bullying them at school. And they are bullied because their parents are poor, so those kids have nothing new, nothing respected by their peers. They are out of peer circles, outcasted...

A small percentage will find their own way and leave a life of emotional and, quite often, physical abuse. They will find exceptional help or someone significant enough to help them see another perspective. Unfortunately, we speak about 4 to 6%... Approximately 30% of the rest will at least once try to end their lives... Because living in constant emotional darkness is unbearable...

I admire mothers who can say - I can't raise this child. I have no skills, no home, no money, and as no one wants to take this responsibility, I will end this life before it starts without pain. It's a hard decision for a woman. But it's better than a lifetime of suffering... Children are not asking to be born. We bring them into this world, so let's do it consciously, and let's take full responsibility not only for their full belly but also for their mental well-being.

No, a woman who knows that she can't secure her child's needs and decides to have an abortion is not a murderer.

[PrincessBunBuns]

there's no wrong reason to have an abortion lol. it’s not like someone’s having an abortion every year just because, they just dont want a baby now or ever. the process is actually, like… intense and emotionally/physically draining.


like yeah, it can be religiously wrong, but its all for a purpose and we can't judge people for that.

[Anonymous]

The right wing wants to ban abortion because of god or something. But then they are the same people who are against feeding starving children and government assistance and think god will fix the problem.

The Left-Wing is shitty, too. I don't discriminate against either side. I understand they oversimplify things on both right-wing and left-wing because the average voter cannot follow anything complicated which is why a third will never win.

If a girl is raped the right would prefer she have the rapist child rather than abort it. The right wing complains about welfare and all poor people having too many kids then they are against abortion because they need poor people with to scrutinize, ruin their self-esteem, so they can feel worthless and work them for very little money.

The right-wing does not care if the girl ends her life because she is forced to have the rapist baby. And the right-wing does not care if the woman needs the abortion to save her life. The right-wing mostly hates women and sees them as disposable. Same as how the Left-wing sees men as disposable.

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[guy_123]

I'm in no way trying to argue what you said, but the question was not about rapists.
"because she wanted to have more freedom in her life and wasn’t ready to parent? Because she wasn’t finally stable or independent enough to live on her own?"

[Danny_dan92]

I only consider it murder if the baby is basically developed (later stages of pregnancy) the baby has it’s own heartbeat and is kicking around in the womb.




Furthermore when that is the case and say the girl just randomly decides that she doesn’t want the baby anymore. Like dude… you literally carried this growing baby inside you for months. And now you want to get rid of it? Typically this happens when they realize how different their lives are gonna be becoming a single mom. So they decide to abort. But at that point just give birth to the baby and put it up for adoption. Who knows, many women that are doubtful but end up giving birth to the baby end up deciding to keep it after it’s born.




For the record I am pro choice, however I do not think it should be used as a method of contraception nor should abortion should be done late term.

[RainbowMarinade]

Wrong reasons according to who?
People who have never met her and know nothing about her or her life? Can’t say their opinions matter much at all.
Is it murder? Only if it’s an unlawful killing of another human. Does abortion fit that description?

[JacobJordan]

Abortion is not a means of birth control. An abortion is meant to happen if the baby is not going to survive until birth. A woman who gets an abortion just because "she doesn't want a kid" is using abortion as a means of birth control and as such is a disgusting human being. I am all for abortion as long as it is done right. And that is only when the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother.

[Bricealan]

Right reason/Wrong reason... I didn't know there was a right or wrong reason?

A woman's right to chose is just that... a right to chose?

[hahahmm]

Whether we call it murder or not it is killing a defenseless human for selfish reasons. No different than if you killed your 1 year old baby so you can go out and party with friends.

[lorenzomichael]

No listen all that abortion shit. You do you. Go do what you like but make sure you think about it first. But you're not a murderer, and the people that don't like what you do. tell them to go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous]

I think she should think about all this before getting pregnant, abortion is not a method of birth control. Once you've taken the decision, there is only one way forward in my opinion.

[slatyb]

Abortion is in no way murder. Murder is the killing of a person. A fetus is not a person.

[EmmaMary]

What wrong reasons would there ever be for having an abortion?

[EmmaMary]

She could have kept the baby correct... NO
She should have been forced to chose life for that baby correct? Absolutely NOT.

[dreamstar72]

No, no, no.
Also should people and even you be charge with a “criminal threat” for making a death threat against her life?

[RainbowMarinade]

@dreamstar72
Of course. People should be charged with a “criminal threat” for making a death threat against anybody’s life.
Why would that even be a question?

[exitseven]

Abortion is just a mess. I don't know what the answer is but it needs to be fixed

[Zestyassmf1997]

Depends who you ask. I generally think it is pretty much infanticide.

[OddBeMe]

99% of abortions are within the first 12 weeks or so. Fetus is the size of a bean. Are you serisously saying that’s murder?

[Anonymous]

She gets away with the murder of a potential life. And as she should.

[Opinion Owner]

I think the true psychopaths are the people who want to force kids (when it wasn't their fault their parents were irresponsible and reckless) to start life at a huge disadvantage and then won't lift a finger to actually help these unwanted kids when they are born.

[Agape93]

Nope, because it isn't murder.

[BCA6010]

Like 99.4% of all abortions in the US? Yes.

[JoshSimmer]

Murder for killing a human.

[Jamie05rhs]

Yes. She has committed murder.

[Roudyrebel8]

Personally I consider abortion murder

[_piotr]

YES!

[Asker]

How so?

[_piotr]

If you murder somebody you are a murderer. If women kills her baby, she is a murderer. Easy.

[RainbowMarinade]

@_piotr
If you completely disregard the definition of murder, you would be correct.
Unfortunately, words have meaning.
So, not actually that easy. 🤷‍♀️

[_piotr]

@RainbowMarinade It is very easy.
"Murder is the deliberate and illegal killing of a person." definition.
Abortion is killing/homicide. Baby is person. Mother and doctor do it deliberately.

The only dubious word is: "illegal".
The problem with that is whether the law is morally good. In North Korea, Hitler's Third Reich or Stalin's USSR there were "legal" (according to their laws) mass killings of people which I would argue ware mass murders.
Sorry, but moral law is and should be way higher than country law.

Deliberate killing of human that is unwilling to die IS MURDER.
Shielding behind that in your country it is legal to kill babies is morally evil.

If your country made it legal to cruelly kill people on Sundays, that this killings would be technically not classified as murders in court, but in reality they would be evil homicides.

Homicide of defenceless baby is evil and people who do it should rot in prison. The same for doctors who perform (abortions), they are helping in these murders.

The best, stable fundamental for morality is the divine law, and many people adhere to it.

[RainbowMarinade]

@_piotr
People who call abortion murder, do so from an emotional place. Murder is a legal term, and it has parameters that define the word. If abortion is legal, it cannot be called murder.
“Deliberate killing of human that is unwilling to die IS MURDER.” No it’s not.
“If your country made it legal to cruelly kill people on Sundays….” Seriously? 🙄
So, to paraphrase “women are under some mistaken belief that their bodies are their own, and any women who makes choices based on the idea that their body belongs to them alone, should be put to death.”
You’ll excuse me if I completely dismiss the idea that others have more rights to the body I live in the I do myself.

You are free to live by your “divine law,” while I am free to reject it.
Freedom is cool like dat.

[_piotr]

@RainbowMarinade I am also free to reject your view on freedom. Morally they are murderers, child-killers. Law is set by people. If people would make killing legal, then killing people on the street would not be a murder in law-sense but it be morally and in common sense. No good government should legalise killing people. Abortion is just this kind of abomination.
Women are under mistaken belief that child is her body. It is other, autonomous body that is inside women.
Why not go further, maybe lets legalise abortion (killing) children up to 3 years old. If parent is unhappy, he/she can kill a child with a knife. And later legalise forced euthanasia for older people.

YOU ARE SUPPORTING THE CIVILISATION OF DEATH!!!

[RainbowMarinade]

@_piotr
You are absolutely free to reject my view. I’d even fight for you to have that right. It’s okay that you disagree with me.
I understand that you need to make reference to an extreme and unlikely situation in order for you to make your point, but how about we just stick to the conversation we’re already having about abortion?
“Why not go further?” What kind of question is that? Please, make the connection for me. There is a distinct difference between a fetus and the people you have offered up for killing.
Do you know what that difference is?
Until you understand that difference, we cannot continue with this conversation.

[butterly248]

No ofc not!